[ROVERNET - UK] Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 24, Issue 31

Paul Smith Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au
Sun Nov 28 22:25:31 GMT 2004


ooooooooooooooooooo; or as "rings"...

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Good for the Chinese!  I'm sure they will refer to the front and rear 
fenders as "wings".
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>   1. Re:  Re: Rover & Shanghai (Eric Russell)
>   2. Re:  Re: Rover & Shanghai (Robin Beach)
>   3.  Rover's future (Bill Robertson)
>   4. Re:  Re: Rover & Shanghai (Stephen Beer)
>   5. Re:  Re: Rover & Shanghai (Stephen Beer)
>   6.  Rover and the Chinese (Stuart Eastwood)
>   7. Re:  Rover and the Chinese (Robin Beach)
>   8. Re:  Re: Rover & Shanghai (Eric Russell)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:10:31 -0800 (PST)
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: Rover & Shanghai
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Robin,
> I was thinking that due to their need to import scrap
> metal and materials to make new steel, they might
> figure a way to keep some production outside China and
> lessen the expenses of moving raw materials to
> mainland China.
> Still, ..... there will be one less British car
> company around, soon.  How many truly British car
> companies exist now?
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> --- Robin Beach <robinbeachuk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Chover perhaps? or what about Shanger?
>> --- Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Peter,
>> > I have a link on our website.
>> >
>> > www.roverclub.ca
>> >
>> > Further research turned up an inside source, not
>> > named, saying that the Chinese intention is to
>> > wholly
>> > own Rover - and some people were worried about
>> Honda
>> > and calling some new Rovers "Rhondas".  What's the
>> > new
>> > epithet?
>> >
>> > Eric
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:47:57 -0500, you wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Today(Friday 11-26) there was a front page
>> > article
>> > > about the Chinese
>> > >
>> > > Is there a link to this on the web James?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Peter H
>> > >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:54:40 -0800 (PST)
> From: Robin Beach <robinbeachuk at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: Rover & Shanghai
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Eric,
> If we leave aside Rover, I believe that the largest
> volume U.K. owned vehicle producer is LTI, the taxi
> maker, after them TVR. Not exactly world players!!! At
> the end of the day though it's jobs that count, and
> there are thousands in my native West Midlands
> dependant upon Longbridge, Solihull, and the Jaguar
> plants. Browns Lane looks doomed, when will Castle
> Bromwich close?
>
> To your other point Eric, Does China have no iron
> reserves?
>
>
> --- Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Robin,
>> I was thinking that due to their need to import
>> scrap
>> metal and materials to make new steel, they might
>> figure a way to keep some production outside China
>> and
>> lessen the expenses of moving raw materials to
>> mainland China.
>> Still, ..... there will be one less British car
>> company around, soon.  How many truly British car
>> companies exist now?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Robin Beach <robinbeachuk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Chover perhaps? or what about Shanger?
>> > --- Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Peter,
>> > > I have a link on our website.
>> > >
>> > > www.roverclub.ca
>> > >
>> > > Further research turned up an inside source, not
>> > > named, saying that the Chinese intention is to
>> > > wholly
>> > > own Rover - and some people were worried about
>> > Honda
>> > > and calling some new Rovers "Rhondas".  What's
>> the
>> > > new
>> > > epithet?
>> > >
>> > > Eric
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:47:57 -0500, you wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >Today(Friday 11-26) there was a front page
>> > > article
>> > > > about the Chinese
>> > > >
>> > > > Is there a link to this on the web James?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers,
>> > > >
>> > > > Peter H
>> > > >
>> > > >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:14:39 +0000
> From: "Bill Robertson" <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover's future
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Just read a great article on the 4 directors of MG/Rover and the future of
> the company.........Seems that while hinging their future to the proposed
> merger with the Chinese they have seen fit to once again award themselves 
> a
> 3.6million pound bonus to their pensions to go along with the 10million
> pounds they awarded themselves last year............For an inital 
> investment
> of 60,000pounds each that seems like quite the return on their investment
> for a company that has lost a billion pounds since their takeover from 
> BMW,
> although only lost 77million pounds last year........THey were given a 550
> million pound loan, from BMW, that was more of a gift, in that it was too
> cover costs associated with closing the company when BMW gave up on
> it.............Today that money is long gone.....The company is struggling
> ,but the directors are getting richer..........Simple economics tells you
> that if you are only selling 4 cars for every 5 you make you have a 
> serious
> problem yet the directors seem quite willing to take what they can get out
> of the company while they can................No one begrudges a 
> businessman
> making money but when the business is very unstable it seems it would be
> more prudent to reinvest the money the directors are taking, back into the
> company to increase sales.........They make a couple of great cars
> ..............they just need more buyers and a better service network
> .......Here's hoping greed does not kill off the great Rover name once and
> for all
>
> Bill Robertson
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:40:14 -0500
> From: Stephen Beer <stephen at beerinc.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: Rover & Shanghai
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Message-ID: <F15A108D-416C-11D9-86D0-000A95C8BD54 at beerinc.com>
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> Thank goodness there is still a Triumph motorcycle company that is
> properly British.
> My '97 Speed Triple remains a reliable, competent, extremely fast (a
> bit too) machine.
> Looks aces also.
> John Bloor should be knighted.
>
> Stephen Beer
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2004, at 12:10 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
>
>> Robin,
>> I was thinking that due to their need to import scrap
>> metal and materials to make new steel, they might
>> figure a way to keep some production outside China and
>> lessen the expenses of moving raw materials to
>> mainland China.
>> Still, ..... there will be one less British car
>> company around, soon.  How many truly British car
>> companies exist now?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Robin Beach <robinbeachuk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chover perhaps? or what about Shanger?
>>> --- Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter,
>>>> I have a link on our website.
>>>>
>>>> www.roverclub.ca
>>>>
>>>> Further research turned up an inside source, not
>>>> named, saying that the Chinese intention is to
>>>> wholly
>>>> own Rover - and some people were worried about
>>> Honda
>>>> and calling some new Rovers "Rhondas".  What's the
>>>> new
>>>> epithet?
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:47:57 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today(Friday 11-26) there was a front page
>>>> article
>>>>> about the Chinese
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a link to this on the web James?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter H
>>>>>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:40:49 -0500
> From: Stephen Beer <stephen at beerinc.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: Rover & Shanghai
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> TVR is now Russian.
> Stephen
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2004, at 12:54 PM, Robin Beach wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>> If we leave aside Rover, I believe that the largest
>> volume U.K. owned vehicle producer is LTI, the taxi
>> maker, after them TVR. Not exactly world players!!! At
>> the end of the day though it's jobs that count, and
>> there are thousands in my native West Midlands
>> dependant upon Longbridge, Solihull, and the Jaguar
>> plants. Browns Lane looks doomed, when will Castle
>> Bromwich close?
>>
>> To your other point Eric, Does China have no iron
>> reserves?
>>
>>
>> --- Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Robin,
>>> I was thinking that due to their need to import
>>> scrap
>>> metal and materials to make new steel, they might
>>> figure a way to keep some production outside China
>>> and
>>> lessen the expenses of moving raw materials to
>>> mainland China.
>>> Still, ..... there will be one less British car
>>> company around, soon.  How many truly British car
>>> companies exist now?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Robin Beach <robinbeachuk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chover perhaps? or what about Shanger?
>>>> --- Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>> I have a link on our website.
>>>>>
>>>>> www.roverclub.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> Further research turned up an inside source, not
>>>>> named, saying that the Chinese intention is to
>>>>> wholly
>>>>> own Rover - and some people were worried about
>>>> Honda
>>>>> and calling some new Rovers "Rhondas".  What's
>>> the
>>>>> new
>>>>> epithet?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:47:57 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today(Friday 11-26) there was a front page
>>>>> article
>>>>>> about the Chinese
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a link to this on the web James?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter H
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =====
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> =====
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>>>> West Midlands,
>>>> England.
>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:12:47 -0800
> From: "Stuart Eastwood" <Stuart_Eastwood at telus.net>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover and the Chinese
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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> Product launch under Chinese management may present a problem or two. Hard
> to generate much excitement about a new car if there is no Peking...
>
> sorry.....
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:21:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: Robin Beach <robinbeachuk at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover and the Chinese
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Message-ID: <20041128192159.82151.qmail at web41606.mail.yahoo.com>
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> Perhaps it's a case of Rover beijing up the wrong tree
> ;
> )
> --- Stuart Eastwood <Stuart_Eastwood at telus.net> wrote:
>
>> Product launch under Chinese management may present
>> a problem or two. Hard
>> to generate much excitement about a new car if there
>> is no Peking...
>>
>> sorry.....
>>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:44:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Re: Rover & Shanghai
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> I am not an expert on that but there is a ready market
> at high prices for scrap steel here in Vancouver.  One
> of the scrap dealers told me that the scrap Rovers he
> was taking for the Club was to be crushed and sent to
> China.  That may have given the Shanghai folks an idea
> :-(
>
> Eric
>
> --- Robin Beach <robinbeachuk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>> If we leave aside Rover, I believe that the largest
>> volume U.K. owned vehicle producer is LTI, the taxi
>> maker, after them TVR. Not exactly world players!!!
>> At
>> the end of the day though it's jobs that count, and
>> there are thousands in my native West Midlands
>> dependant upon Longbridge, Solihull, and the Jaguar
>> plants. Browns Lane looks doomed, when will Castle
>> Bromwich close?
>>
>> To your other point Eric, Does China have no iron
>> reserves?
>>
>>
>> --- Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Robin,
>> > I was thinking that due to their need to import
>> > scrap
>> > metal and materials to make new steel, they might
>> > figure a way to keep some production outside China
>> > and
>> > lessen the expenses of moving raw materials to
>> > mainland China.
>> > Still, ..... there will be one less British car
>> > company around, soon.  How many truly British car
>> > companies exist now?
>> >
>> > Eric
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Robin Beach <robinbeachuk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Chover perhaps? or what about Shanger?
>> > > --- Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Peter,
>> > > > I have a link on our website.
>> > > >
>> > > > www.roverclub.ca
>> > > >
>> > > > Further research turned up an inside source,
>> not
>> > > > named, saying that the Chinese intention is to
>> > > > wholly
>> > > > own Rover - and some people were worried about
>> > > Honda
>> > > > and calling some new Rovers "Rhondas".  What's
>> > the
>> > > > new
>> > > > epithet?
>> > > >
>> > > > Eric
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at melbpc.org.au>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:47:57 -0500, you
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >Today(Friday 11-26) there was a front page
>> > > > article
>> > > > > about the Chinese
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is there a link to this on the web James?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Peter H
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