[ROVERNET - UK] BBC E-mail: Rover cars to be made in China

[John Windwood]

Not sure about Healey, but Phoenix actually owned Austin Morris and MG names
outright-they were bought from BMW so are assets presumeably now for
sale....
Kind Regards
John
John Windwood

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net>
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] BBC E-mail: Rover cars to be made in China


> Several Months before Ford bought Landrover, I was invited to the Annual
> Landrover Dealer's Convention, in Couer d'Alene Idaho-Lovely town, by the
> way, Fall foilage- New England in the Northwest. Actually, Cars That I had
> restored were invited, Landrover/BMW paid my way to accompany them.They
had
> an exclusive private concours in the ball room of the resort, to showcase
> heritage. I brought the only Rovers, my 69 2000TC, and a '59 P4, I had
> restored for a customer. The cars were moved by first class carrier. They
> exhibeted a 1938 BMW and a 53 BMW, various BMW motorcycles, the Camel
> Landrover team, and various MG's and Landrovers, Paddy Hopkirk's
Mini(Along
> with its personal escort-driver-guard), etc. My Rovers seemed to be
> considered quitw important.This event was to showcase heritage, and show
the
> Landrover dealers that BMW respected the British Heritage they owned.After
> viewing the classic cars, the dealers were ushered into another room, to
> view the new Mini, an MGF, and a Rover 75. They were told the Rover 75 and
> MGF  would not be sold in the US, but it was hinted that the Mini might,
and
> this event seemed to also be to guage the dealer's reaction to the Mini. I
> never knew if the Ford people were at that event, ...and was  this
actually
> a sales pitch to them?; but it seemed to be for the LandRover Dealers. I
was
> allowed to attend their meetings, and They were being told that Landrovers
> would continue to emphasize the British tradition; though with
> German"improvements" as BMW engines and handling improvements.The Ford
sale
> was either a deep dark secret, or happened quickly after that event
>    The point., or question here, If BMW is keeping the Rover name, what
> about MG and other names they own? Obviously they would keep Austin, and
> they do not own the Healey name.Will MG's be built in China?  James Dean,
> Ft.Lauderdale.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Windwood" <wood at winds27.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 6:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] BBC E-mail: Rover cars to be made in China
>
>
> > The Rover name is still owned by BMW. It was retained by them as part of
> an
> > agreement with Ford when it bought Land Rover. The intention was to
> prevent
> > Rover ever making a four wheel drive to compete with Land Rover. Phoenix
> > only leased the name.
> > Kind Regards
> > John
> > John Windwood
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Stephen Beer" <stephen at beerinc.com>
> > To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] BBC E-mail: Rover cars to be made in China
> >
> >
> > > No, you're not being too cynical.
> > >
> > > ...but selling the rights to build Rover 75s and 45s to the Chinese
> > > before a deal is struck just seems like more of the corporate raiding
> > > Towers and the other 3 venture crapitalists have been up to. They sold
> > > the factory -- and just about everything else of value before this.
> > >
> > > How dare he (Towers) pat himself on the back for exceeding the 18
> > > months predicted for Rover's failure.
> > > I'm sorry. This is big corporate at it's worst.
> > >
> > > The Chinese have no business building, associating with or even
looking
> > > at Rovers.
> > >
> > > Hopefully the Rover and MG names can be bought by a British individual
> > > with a vision (John Bloor are you there?).
> > >
> > > My TC remains my favorite car.
> > > Stephen Beer
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 21, 2005, at 12:25 AM, Peter Huttemeier wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:11:57 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Peter Miller saw this story on BBC News Online and thought you
> > > >> should see it.
> > > >
> > > > Am I being too cynical to suggest SAIC deliberately withdrew from
any
> > > > Rover rescue deal to allow Rover to collapse and then snap up what
> > > > they could cheaply, and without having to bother with 6,000
> > > > redundancies?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Peter H
> > > >
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