[ROVERNET - UK] P6 Oil Filter

Sat Aug 6 22:00:52 BST 2005

The 51515 is for older Fords, Dodge etc V8 engines.  This filter fits and 
filters the oil in a Rover 2000 ok, but has the drain back problem because 
it is mounted upside down compared the Fords etc.  STOP looking under 
automobiles.  Today on most US manufactures web sites the correct filter is 
not listed at all or under FARM and CONSTRUCTION  EQUIPMENT.  Best plan is 
to cross reference to the Baldwin BT 216 or the WIX 51806.  By the way the 
1806 is the NAPA #.  Press On ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Morey" <morey814 at hotmail.com>
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 Oil Filter

> Eric ol bean. The Wix listing on the website shows the 51515 as being the 
> filter for the 2000. This is the one I am using at present and it will 
> work, it just drains the oil back to the pan when the engine is off. Hence 
> the 2-3 seconds of no oil pressure while the filter fills. The correct 
> filter has a pipe inside that is visible through the large hole. (inlet) 
> The anti drain back valve is useful when the filter is mounted in the 
> normal, for most engines, direction. If it is useful for the 2000 I am not 
> aware of how. It may have a limited effect by keeping the oil to the cam 
> and tensioners in the block. These will fill very quickly once the engine 
> is running. The standpipe is the important bit for the 2000. The correct 
> listing for the 2000 appears to be the 51806. By the way Wix has changed 
> the numbers over the counter by dropping the 5, so the new number is 1806. 
> The website appears to still like the old numbers. I should add the caveat 
> that I have not used the new filter yet. I am trusting that all is well. 
> Hope this helps. Thanks for all the work you do for us Eric.
> Ron.
>
>>From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>>To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>>Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 Oil Filter
>>Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 21:16:45 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Ron,
>>Confused but want to learn:
>>
>>Our RCCC table shows the WIX filter as having an
>>anti-drainback valve but no standpipe is mentioned.
>>
>>In my post regarding the Baldwin filter, their website
>>mentions more than the valve:
>>*Anti-Drainback Valve
>>*8 PSI By-Pass Valve
>>*Standpipe
>>
>>So ................ do you mean you are looking for a
>>filter with an internal standpipe?  Are you saying
>>that the WIX is not recommended for the 2000TC?  Shall
>>I remove the listing?
>>
>>Last July, Peter Heaster, Malcolm Tait and I studied
>>Peter's reference books and came up with that list.  I
>>think Malcolm was looking for filter options at that
>>time.
>>
>>Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--- Ron Morey <morey814 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Greetings all. Today I walked into my local NAPA
>> > store and asked about a
>> > 51806 filter. To my shock and amazement they had
>> > one. The price for a Wix
>> > filter-<$5. This filter has the tube. Thanks to Eric
>> > and many others it is
>> > the one suggested for a 2000TC. It fits a Perkins
>> > diesel 4.236 litre engine
>> > fitted in forklifts etc. It also fits some Massey
>> > Ferguson tractors. That is
>> > probably not good news to most of you. The Wix site
>> > lists a 68 2000TC as a
>> > 6cyl that takes the 51515 filter. I have that filter
>> > on the car now and it
>> > does not retain the oil. So they are wrong on two
>> > counts.
>> > I hope you find this helpful. I kick myself for the
>> > years I have used a
>> > filter without the retaining pipe.
>> > Ron.
>> > >From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>> > >Reply-To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> > >To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> > >Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 Oil Filter
>> > >Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:00:58 -0700 (PDT)
>> > >
>> > >Ron,
>> > >When I went to the websites for AC-Delco,
>> > Beck-Arnley,
>> > >Hastings, and Motorcraft, they didn't show a
>> > listing
>> > >for the numbers in the archive or for the Rover
>> > >application.
>> > >
>> > >If anybody can find a current match, I'd like to
>> > use
>> > >the information.  I notice that this list comes
>> > from a
>> > >1997 archive.
>> > >
>> > >Eric
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >--- Ron Venter <venterrh at telus.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > At 09:10 AM 05-08-01, you wrote:
>> > > > >After careful research last year, (July I
>> > think) we
>> > > > >installed some P6 Oil Filter cross-references
>> > on
>> > > > our
>> > > > >website.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >If anyone has other brands with the
>> > recommendations
>> > > > >discussed, please advise and I'll include them
>> > in
>> > > > the
>> > > > >chart.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Eric
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > From: RoverP6B at pacbell.net
>> > > >
>> > > > Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 19:01:49 +0000
>> > > >
>> > > > To: rovernet at ganglion.anes.med.umich.edu
>> > > >
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 2200 TC Oil Pressure
>> > > >
>> > > > References:
>> > > >
>> > <3.0.32.19970529225615.006c3dfc at mail3.tripnet.se>
>> > > >
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>> > > >
>> > > > Sender:
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>> > > >
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>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Tomas Börjeson wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >  >
>> > > >
>> > > >  > Does anyone know any other manufacturer for
>> > this
>> > > > filter and maybe a # as
>> > > >
>> > > >  > well ?
>> > > >
>> > > >  > My local FRAM agent says that #PH 2821A has
>> > been
>> > > > discontinued. (At least In
>> > > >
>> > > >  > SWEDEN )
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi Tomas,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Fram lists these #s in their "Master Catalog" as
>> > > > interchanging with
>> > > >
>> > > > the PH 2821A oil filter for the Rover 2000. I
>> > hope
>> > > > it helps.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > AC-Delco PF42, PF939, SC, X16
>> > > >
>> > > > Baldwin BT216
>> > > >
>> > >Snipped
>> > >
>> > >
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