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Gavin.Walker at csiro.au Gavin.Walker at csiro.au
Thu Sep 8 05:46:29 BST 2005

Whether we have hit peak oil is still debated.  The current prices spike
is due to
  - political instability
  - insufficient oil production capacity (as opposed to insufficient
  - insufficient petrol refining capacity (i.e. turning oil into petrol)

Whether those that control the production and refining capacities are
willing to pump more money into infrastructure we will have to wait and
see.  Currently they have lots more money at no extra cost.  However due
to peak oil coming up eventually they may diversify rather than put the
profit into more plant.  Immediate price spikes in the US are due to the
Southern petrol refineries being underwater.  Australian prices are set
based on the Singapore price, high Asian demand being a culprit (as well
as following US prices).  As Asian countries get more cars and demand
increases the Singapore price will increase.

I was told once that LPG was a combination of butane and propane, both
from the oil refining process.  Natural gas (CNG) is mostly methane and

A disco could pay for itself fairly shortly.  If it uses 20l/100km over
10000km that's 2000l a year.  At 1.5c/l we have $3000.  If LPG saves 40%
costs, there's a saving of $1200 a year.  Looks around a 2 year pay
pack.  LPG excise will come in around 2011 I think, which should put
45c/l LPG up to around  70c/l (sliding eventually up to around $1/l and
probably put a lot of LPG fitters out of business).  Unfortunately LPG
equipment is largely incompatible with CNG if that eventually takes off.

Of course if there's a change of government in the middle anything could

Gavin Walker
Canberra, Australia

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