[ROVERNET - UK] More on Fuel
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Thu Sep 22 13:04:00 BST 2005
Not sure of rubber problems.
In the 1973 oil embargo, americans started using ethanol as they did in
WWII. In WWii, Gas was rationed but the crops still needed to be grown. The
DOE says on their website that ethanol does not affect rubber parts, but
then again, unlike LBC owners, they may not know rubber parts that are
Also, many use Ethanol and Mehtanol interchangably. Mehtanol is corrosive
and will definately eat rubber parts, but even with all of the research I
have done, I am not 100% sure of any potential damage by ethanol. The oil
companies are not keen on ethanol and much misinformation has been published
by people claiming to be unbiased.
The University of Iowa has a great ethanol website. It says in this
climate, a blend of E-70 in needed. In Norway, they have pumps that let you
choose your own blend from 10% to 85%.
It takes 7 pounds of corn to make 1 pound of beef. A fact some point to as
immoral when we have starvation on this planet. At least making ethanol from
the corn gives us some clean fuel and makes the corn more digestable for the
Mother Earth News pulled a still from California to Washington with a new
454 Chevy pickup back in 1980. The truck ran on 80 proof ethanol, no
gasoline, as will most cars. (won't start on straight ethanol, but will run
once started) They also had a sister truck that made the trip on wood smoke
alone, but that is a whole 'nother thread.
They made their ethanol with solar energy, as I plan to do with my plant.
I would like to see the by-product of mash enriched, dried and shipped in
blocks to the starving in the world. If you are starving, a 25 pound block
of corn meal is salvation, but to a warlord, it is almost worthless, no
reason to steal it, no market to sell it.
Google: Mother Earth Ethanol they did extensive research and have two
models of stills, one cheap with "found" materials, the other $250 (in 1980
dollars) and bigger. Both are Solar, cost $1 per gallon to produce and you
still have the mash to feed.
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From: <i>Mike Shaddick <mikshdik at ozemail.com.au></i><br>Reply-To:
<i>rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com</i><br>To:
<i>rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com</i><br>Subject: <i>Re: [ROVERNET - UK] More on
Fuel</i><br>Date: <i>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:38:51 +1000</i><br>>This to
Answer Ray Wilkins question -<br>><br>>As I have said before, I have
run my P6B with ethanol levels of 85% <br>>before performance becomes a
serious issue.<br>><br>>With Optimax, you don't really need an
additive but I think BP <br>>Ultimate is a tad
sexier.<br>><br>>>Dear Rovernetters,<br>>><br>>>I have
just heard that the Australian Government has<br>>>opened up the
possibility of using (more?) ethanol in<br>>>petrol. There was a bit
of a 'hoo ha' (is that spelt<br>>>correctly?) here about the use of
more than the<br>>>prescribed amount of ethanol in petrol (I think
the<br>>>limit is 10%) and the risk of damage to engines.
Now<br>>>most petrol (gas) pumps (bowsers) have a sign
stating<br>>>that there is no ethanol in the petrol they sell.
I<br>>>would be interested to hear other points of view as
to<br>>>whether ethanol is good, bad or just doesn't
matter.<br>>>Do other countries have ethanol in their fuel and
if<br>>>so how much?<br>>><br>>>This leads me on to my
car, a 1976 P6B which I<br>>>currently run on Shell Optimax (98
octane) plus a lead<br>>>additive. If ethanol is introduced in
significant<br>>>amounts to our fuel, what effect is it likely to
have<br>>>on an older engine? Again, I would love to get
some<br>>>other points of
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