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concinnity at woosh.co.nz
Tue Aug 1 13:16:34 BST 2006
Hi James,well I've certainly learnt a lot today as well,but when I swapped
the hub off the left hand front of a1970 UKspec 2000TC (standard steel
wheels)onto my 1970 NADA 2000TC(which has rostyles),and I put the rostyle
wheel back on ,the wheel was positioned further in under the front
wing.i.e.the hub to fit a standard steel wheel is different in offset to the
hub to fit a Rubery Owen rostyle wheel-thus if rostyle wheels are fitted to
standard hubs the cars track is reduced(by about an inch)
I also note that the boot lid spare apparatus is also different between the
two wheels Anyway I put a new wheel bearing in the rostyle hub and
put it back on.Since then I have noticed rostyles on two P6Bs here in
Auckland and from the front,to me, they look narrow tracked(thoough of
course this may be hard to ascertain with the amount of track change front
and rear with normal suspension movement on the P6) One thing is
for sure,the 5.5 "pitch circle diameter(P.C.D.)which we call the bolt centre
down here is common to them all(and Austins,Jensens,Wolseleys and some
Cadillacs,Buicks and Pontiacs)...........And all this discussion has brought
to light some more of these wheels over here,so Idon't need to bring any
from you guys.(The air con stuff Iam keen on though
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net>
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:46 PM
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Fw: Fw: You have received photos from
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> Sorry, everyone, This is the email I meant to send to Rovernet. James
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at wcc.net>
> Cc: "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0
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> > Kent,..I certainly did I stir up a discussion, with a simple question
> > about wheels! I will check tomorrow if the centers are welded, but the
> > bolt pattern is slightly smaller than on a 3500s or a 68 2000TC, so it
> > appears they are Magnum 500. I have 5 Magstars on my 69 2000TC, so am
> > well aware of what those are, and what the nuts look like. So I learned
> > something today.What I always thought were pre 68 Rostyles, were
> > Magnum 500, and pre 68 2000TC did not have a different bolt pattern,
> > the cars with Magnum 500's did. Apparently, after 68, Rover did not use
> > the Magnum 500 hubs, as the Rostyles replaced them? I assume Magnum 500
> > hubs were an option made by Rover; not the wheel maker. It is a shame I
> > didn't know that 30 years ago; I might not have scrapped dozens of
> > 500 hubs, along with the stripped cars, when they were finished. If
> > Europeans realized all that Americans throw away, they would be even
> > upset with us.
> > Apparently all Europeans don't appreciate these wheels.In 1999. I
> > rented my red 69 Rover to a French film company, shooting a car
> > ad in Miami. It was supposed to be in Paris; so they used French license
> > plates and street signs. They didn't like my Magstars; so went to
> > Heaven", got some Chevy Monza hubcaps and wired them over the Magstars..
> > If anyone in Europe ever finds a copy of that ad, in an old magazine; I
> > would love to have a copy. James Dean
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at wcc.net>
> > To: "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net>
> > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 5:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0
> > Starter Edition
> >> Hi James,
> >> I have used all Rover lug nuts interchangably from my '52 P4 to my '74
> >> P6. All are the same thread, some are double ended. The ones for
> >> Rostyles are chromed as are the deep ones for the P6B bolt through
> >> covers. Magstars use the same bolt pattern and stud size but different
> >> lug nuts (I don't have any of the nuts at present.
> >> The sole exception are the Magnum 500 wheels which use both a different
> >> bolt patern and larger studs and nuts.
> >> The wheels shown in some of your photos do not appear to have rivets.
> >> This is one key to identifying the wheels. If they have NO RIVETS, they
> >> are Magnum 500. All Rostyles of all sizes and bolt paterns (MG, Rover,
> >> Ford, etc.) have their centers rivetted to the rims.
> >> If your rims are WELDED to the centers, they are MAGNUM 500.
> >> Measure the bolt patern. If it is NOT 5"x5, they are Magnum 500.
> >> Visiually, looking at the wheel in profile as it sits on the car, they
> >> are ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL APART, they are so much alike. There is
> >> very slight difference in offset. So a photograph of a Rostyle and a
> >> Magnum 500 when comparred individually won't tell us anything.
> >> Do not sell Magnum 500 wheels to anyone who does NOT have the special
> >> hubs with the different bolt patern and studs. They will be upset. The
> >> Magnum 500 and the Rostyle are not interchangable.
> >> Roverly,
> >> Kent K.
> >> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:36:07 -0700
> >> "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: James Dean To: Kent Kinard Cc: James Dean Sent: Monday, July 31,
> >>>2006 11:06 AM
> >>> Subject: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0
> >>> Edition
> >>> Kent. Here are photos of wheels # 1-5, 2 photos of the front of each
> >>> wheel. I offerred these to the guy from New Zealand.who inquired, and
> >>> awaiting his answer.. #1-3 @75 each , and #4 and #5 are $50 each. #
> >>> 4 was protected from rust, because someone spilled what looks like
> >>> fiberglass resin on it, that covered the low area. I t was brittle, so
> >>> chipped it away, but the small spots still sticking would be best
> >>> removed with acetone. I told him if he wants me to do that, that that
> >>> would be $25 more for #4. #5 has not had the back and rim
> >>> finished, like the others, but will. I treat with Ospho anti-rust
> >>> compound, then paint silver hammerite. I had always believed the lug
> >>> pattern changed about 1968, when they changed the lugnuts. Since early
> >>> lugnuts were an odd whitworth size, I thought US safety regulations
> >>> made Rover change to a standard lugnut size, and I thought bolt
> >>> changed at the same time. I assumed these were early Rostyles. You
> >>> think these are Magnums? James.
> >>> The sender has included tags, so you can do more with these photos.
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