[ROVERNET - UK] Rover brand name sold

Thu Aug 17 05:44:58 BST 2006

Let me just edit that last one again...

Yep, the last "quality at any cost"  new Mercs seem to be the R129 SL, 
W124 E Class & W140 S Class. I've got a 300TE that seems bulletproof and 
two friends have had W210 E Classes that regularly have had dramas. I 
see for the revised W211 E Class they have dropped the troublesome 
Sensotronic brakes, but otherwise MB seems to be trying hard with the 
latest cars to regain their reputation. But a Merc is still a Merc!

Oops... better start talking about Rovers!

Drew Egginton wrote:
> Yep, the last "quality at any cost"  new Mercs seem to be the R129 SL, 
> W124 E Class & W140 S Class. I've got a 300TE that seems bulletproof 
> and two friends have had W210 E Classes that regularly have had 
> dramas. I see for the revised W211 E Class they have dropped the 
> troublesome Sensotronic brakes, but otherwise MB seems to be trying 
> hard with the latest car to be regain their reputation. But a Merc is 
> still a Merc!
>
> Oops... better start talking about Rovers!
>
> Ali Al-Abbasi wrote:
>> I agree, I'm a Mercedes guy , I own four models dating from 1970 to 
>> 1997. It somehow baffles me how they can miss some things and have 
>> issues that you would never believe. But that said, it's still apples 
>> to oranges.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Egginton" <drew at pitstop.net.au>
>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover brand name sold
>>
>>
>>> True! What about the Paykan from Iran... a Hillman Hunter they made 
>>> until last year or even the early 1960's Ford Falcon that made it 
>>> into the 1990s in South America!
>>>
>>> Whilst the 75 is a nice car, I find it very cramped inside and while 
>>> there have been quality issues you wouldn't expect BMW to produce a 
>>> model that was better than their own - but don't forget BMW & Merc 
>>> have also been known to drop the ball on quality.
>>> Ali Al-Abbasi wrote:
>>>> They will be a little dated, but nothing like a Hindustan, a 
>>>> Russian Fiat 124 derivative or a Romanian Renault 12. Those things 
>>>> are at least 30 years old. I think if they set the price right and 
>>>> get the build quality right, these cars should easily be able to 
>>>> compete with American cars quite easily. If they try selling them 
>>>> in the same price range as a BMW then they will be making the exact 
>>>> same mistake as the British owners before them. These car's just 
>>>> aren't as good as a Mercedes or BMW.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Egginton" 
>>>> <drew at pitstop.net.au>
>>>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Rover brand name sold
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, apparently Nanjing will produce a revised MGTF and ZT 
>>>>> (possibly renamed MG7) in the UK and optimistically MGTF coupes in 
>>>>> Oklahoma, USA. SAIC (I think I mistakenly wrote Nanjing in the 
>>>>> last post) will make this new 75 and 25 in China. Interestingly, 
>>>>> several previous suppliers have put their hands up to help Nanjing 
>>>>> with the TF and I've read Lotus is assisting with upgrading the 
>>>>> K-series engine. You would think (despite freshening up) these 
>>>>> models would be well past their use-by dates by the time they're 
>>>>> on the market compared to their competition! Many "poorer" 
>>>>> countries have a long history of taking over production of old 
>>>>> UK/European designs. Hindustan anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> UK dealer SMC has also been offering some great deals on the last 
>>>>> of the ZTs & 75s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew E
>>>>> Perth, Aust
>>>>>
>>>>> Gavin.Walker at csiro.au wrote:
>>>>>> We could end up with the interesting situation of having to 
>>>>>> versions of
>>>>>> the same car produced by two independent companies on two 
>>>>>> independent
>>>>>> production lines.  Nanjing would produce MG ZTs based on the 
>>>>>> Longbridge
>>>>>> plant and SAIC would produce Rover 75s based on the same design 
>>>>>> but with
>>>>>> new plant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gavin Walker
>>>>>> Canberra, Australia
>>>>>>
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