[ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4

Lance La Certe lacpsyd at earthlink.net
Sun Dec 3 16:15:06 GMT 2006


Dirk,

As it turns out both of my original springs were of equal length and in
good shape, so I just reinstalled them.  What I'm really waiting to see
(once I get the engine rebuild finished and re-installed) is how all of the
urethane bushings will work in terms of the ride------I purchased an entire
set of bushings from Scott's Old Auto Rubber (including a set of urethane
bushings from an 'off-road' 4X4 store that carried bushings for the shock
absorbers).  Refitting all of the bushing in the front suspension (not to
mention the rear suspension) and then re-installing the suspension was a
f___king pain in the ass!!!!  All I kept thinking was: "This better ride
like a Bentley or I'm going drive this f___ker off a cliff!!!!!".  I felt
just like Edison's assistant, who, as the story goes, didn't know what he
was doing.  As a result, finding the right element/substance that would
burn for extended periods of time in the light bulb was a matter of
Herculean persistence and trial and error.  If I had had any knowledge of
what I was getting into with the suspension, I never would have done it!!!!


Take care,  Lance

> [Original Message]
> From: Dirk Burrowes <dirk at vy-tek.com>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Date: 12/3/2006 7:55:35 AM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4
>
> Hi Lance,
>
> Good advice for fitting front springs! Did you buy your front springs
> domestically or did you import them? Just wondering if you found a good
> match with a local sourced one I aim thinking of doing the same thing.
>
> Thanks
> Dirk
>
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>    1. RE:  RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39 (Lance La Certe)
>    2.  Front spring re-installation (Anders Hedelund Larsen)
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> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 07:22:55 -0700
> From: "Lance La Certe" <lacpsyd at earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Kurt,
>
> I think I can help as I just recently refitted the front springs on my
P6B.
> The only way I was able to get the springs back in was to get 2 SETS OF
> SPRING COMPRESSORS.  I had purchased one set and then discovered that my
> local Checker Auto Parts Store rented spring compressors FOR FREE (they
> take a credit card deposit, and refund you when the tool is returned
> undamaged).
>
> As with any job, the correct tools make all the difference.  Please
contact
> Geoff of geffandjulie at comcast.net, as he mailed me the three ESSENTIAL (in
> my opinion) spring retaining rods which fit inside the three slot of the
> 'cones' at each end of the springs.  Once you have the springs
sufficiently
> compressed with the two sets of compressors, insert the retaining and rods
> and VERY CAREFULLY back off the compressors, checking periodically to make
> sure that the retaining rods remain 'locked' inside the 'cones'.  With the
> compressed spring, reinstallation is very simple.  Place it back in its
> horizontal position, place a dolly under the swivel pillar assembly and
> raise the suspension.  The top link assembly 'arm' will push back into the
> 'cone' further compressing the spring against the fire wall which will
then
> allow you to reach up, rotate the spring retainers back 90 degrees and
> extract them.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Lance La Certe,   Denver, CO   '70  'Federal' P6B 
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>
> > To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> > Date: 11/29/2006 3:04:15 PM
> > Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39
> >
> >
> >
> > >Message: 5
> > >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:42:19 -0800 (PST)
> > >From: Kurt Graffy <kgraffy at yahoo.com>
> > >Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Moving/Towing a P6 Without Road Springs!?
> > >To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> > >Message-ID: <981059.86277.qm at web50313.mail.yahoo.com>
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> > >
> > >This topic is the bane of my existence!...namely the
> > >front road springs.  I have them out of the car and
> > >have not been able (with external spring compressors)
> > >to get them back in the car.  Paul Smith was kind
> > >enough to send me photos of how he's done it, but I
> > >obviously missed something as it didn't work for me
> > >(so far)...apparently the important thing is that the
> > >spring compressor bolts must be 250mm or less...on the
> > >compressor I rented the bolts are 287mm.
> > >
> > >So I bought some Grade 8 hardened washers...am using
> > >them to "shorten" the bolts...we'll find out today if
> > >that will do the trick...but if not....
> > >
> > >Here's the crunch...I'm being evicted from my home of
> > >the last 28 years (building sold, new owner wants to
> > >move into my unit) and I have to have the premises
> > >vacated by Friday...but in the garage is a P6 without
> > >any front suspension or front wheels....it also has no
> > >engine...as that's on the rebuild stand, but that's
> > >probably not a huge issue...that can be moved.
> > >
> > >So without the front suspension together, I've got two
> > >rear wheels on the ground, and two jack stands under
> > >the steel bars in the front jacking points...which
> > >presumably somehow some towing company will use to
> > >attach a towing dolly to the car to move it out of the
> > >garage and to the new garage...except every towing
> > >firm I called said, one way or another..."No way...not
> > >without having wheels on it."
> > >
> > >So...I was wondering how it would be to put the
> > >suspension bits back on ...sans road spring...simply
> > >in order to be able to roll the car out of the garage
> > >and onto the tow truck (presumably a flat bed in this
> > >case) and off the tow truck and into the new
> > >garage...especially as there's no
> > >engine/clutch/transmission weight on the front of the
> > >car.
> > >
> > >Am I crazy?...I'm certainly desperate!
> > >
> > >Kurt
> > >
> > >
> > I have seen a car with a front wheel missing, fell off I think, up on a
> tilt 
> > tray, with a trolley jack supporting where the front wheel was. I would
> have 
> > thought you could jack up under the crossmember, push it out of the
> garage, 
> > and then have it pulled up onto a tilt tray tow truck. Should not be
too 
> > hard with no engine and transmission.
> >
> > When my Rover was bogged in the back yard earlier this year I put some
> wood 
> > under the rear jacking point, then jacked it with a trolley jack, and
> then 
> > pulled it with a strap, to pull the car over. I did this an number of
> times, 
> > and got it out of where I was stuck.
> >
> >
> > James.
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:30:12 +0100
> From: Anders Hedelund Larsen <anders at xoz.dk>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Front spring re-installation
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> I did it twice. As I did manage to get hold of some sufficiently strong 
> spring compressors,  I simply reinstalled; but asking around before 
> trying I did get the following advice, from someone who had had the same 
> challenge with other cars:
>
> Compress the springs adequately while outside the car. Then wind them up 
> with lots of string (avoiding, of course, the first turn in each spring 
> end). Reinstall and cut your strings.
>
> Will it hold? If in doubt use more and anyway you will know from the 
> start already before reinstalling.
>
> Anders HL, Copenhagen, Denmark
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