[ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 5

Dirk Burrowes dirk at vy-tek.com
Mon Dec 4 01:28:05 GMT 2006


Hi Lance,

Thanks for the reply!

I am also planning an entire re-bush on my TC and My 3500. And I bought them
all from Scott as well. My approach was to just disassemble the whole mess
and clean re-paint and re-bush. I was planning on starting at the rear and
working forward. This is why I asked about the springs.

Let me know how the car rides

Dirk

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Today's Topics:

   1.  RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4 (Dirk Burrowes)
   2. RE:  RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4 (Lance La Certe)
   3.  P6 front spring re-installation (Anders Hedelund Larsen)
   4. RE:  RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4 (Paul Smith)


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Hi Lance,

Good advice for fitting front springs! Did you buy your front springs
domestically or did you import them? Just wondering if you found a good
match with a local sourced one I aim thinking of doing the same thing.

Thanks
Dirk

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   2.  Front spring re-installation (Anders Hedelund Larsen)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 07:22:55 -0700
From: "Lance La Certe" <lacpsyd at earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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Kurt,

I think I can help as I just recently refitted the front springs on my P6B.
The only way I was able to get the springs back in was to get 2 SETS OF
SPRING COMPRESSORS.  I had purchased one set and then discovered that my
local Checker Auto Parts Store rented spring compressors FOR FREE (they
take a credit card deposit, and refund you when the tool is returned
undamaged).

As with any job, the correct tools make all the difference.  Please contact
Geoff of geffandjulie at comcast.net, as he mailed me the three ESSENTIAL (in
my opinion) spring retaining rods which fit inside the three slot of the
'cones' at each end of the springs.  Once you have the springs sufficiently
compressed with the two sets of compressors, insert the retaining and rods
and VERY CAREFULLY back off the compressors, checking periodically to make
sure that the retaining rods remain 'locked' inside the 'cones'.  With the
compressed spring, reinstallation is very simple.  Place it back in its
horizontal position, place a dolly under the swivel pillar assembly and
raise the suspension.  The top link assembly 'arm' will push back into the
'cone' further compressing the spring against the fire wall which will then
allow you to reach up, rotate the spring retainers back 90 degrees and
extract them.

Hope that helps,

Lance La Certe,   Denver, CO   '70  'Federal' P6B 


> [Original Message]
> From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Date: 11/29/2006 3:04:15 PM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39
>
>
>
> >Message: 5
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:42:19 -0800 (PST)
> >From: Kurt Graffy <kgraffy at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Moving/Towing a P6 Without Road Springs!?
> >To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> >Message-ID: <981059.86277.qm at web50313.mail.yahoo.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> >This topic is the bane of my existence!...namely the
> >front road springs.  I have them out of the car and
> >have not been able (with external spring compressors)
> >to get them back in the car.  Paul Smith was kind
> >enough to send me photos of how he's done it, but I
> >obviously missed something as it didn't work for me
> >(so far)...apparently the important thing is that the
> >spring compressor bolts must be 250mm or less...on the
> >compressor I rented the bolts are 287mm.
> >
> >So I bought some Grade 8 hardened washers...am using
> >them to "shorten" the bolts...we'll find out today if
> >that will do the trick...but if not....
> >
> >Here's the crunch...I'm being evicted from my home of
> >the last 28 years (building sold, new owner wants to
> >move into my unit) and I have to have the premises
> >vacated by Friday...but in the garage is a P6 without
> >any front suspension or front wheels....it also has no
> >engine...as that's on the rebuild stand, but that's
> >probably not a huge issue...that can be moved.
> >
> >So without the front suspension together, I've got two
> >rear wheels on the ground, and two jack stands under
> >the steel bars in the front jacking points...which
> >presumably somehow some towing company will use to
> >attach a towing dolly to the car to move it out of the
> >garage and to the new garage...except every towing
> >firm I called said, one way or another..."No way...not
> >without having wheels on it."
> >
> >So...I was wondering how it would be to put the
> >suspension bits back on ...sans road spring...simply
> >in order to be able to roll the car out of the garage
> >and onto the tow truck (presumably a flat bed in this
> >case) and off the tow truck and into the new
> >garage...especially as there's no
> >engine/clutch/transmission weight on the front of the
> >car.
> >
> >Am I crazy?...I'm certainly desperate!
> >
> >Kurt
> >
> >
> I have seen a car with a front wheel missing, fell off I think, up on a
tilt 
> tray, with a trolley jack supporting where the front wheel was. I would
have 
> thought you could jack up under the crossmember, push it out of the
garage, 
> and then have it pulled up onto a tilt tray tow truck. Should not be too 
> hard with no engine and transmission.
>
> When my Rover was bogged in the back yard earlier this year I put some
wood 
> under the rear jacking point, then jacked it with a trolley jack, and
then 
> pulled it with a strap, to pull the car over. I did this an number of
times, 
> and got it out of where I was stuck.
>
>
> James.
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:30:12 +0100
From: Anders Hedelund Larsen <anders at xoz.dk>
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Front spring re-installation
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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I did it twice. As I did manage to get hold of some sufficiently strong 
spring compressors,  I simply reinstalled; but asking around before 
trying I did get the following advice, from someone who had had the same 
challenge with other cars:

Compress the springs adequately while outside the car. Then wind them up 
with lots of string (avoiding, of course, the first turn in each spring 
end). Reinstall and cut your strings.

Will it hold? If in doubt use more and anyway you will know from the 
start already before reinstalling.

Anders HL, Copenhagen, Denmark



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 09:15:06 -0700
From: "Lance La Certe" <lacpsyd at earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4
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Dirk,

As it turns out both of my original springs were of equal length and in
good shape, so I just reinstalled them.  What I'm really waiting to see
(once I get the engine rebuild finished and re-installed) is how all of the
urethane bushings will work in terms of the ride------I purchased an entire
set of bushings from Scott's Old Auto Rubber (including a set of urethane
bushings from an 'off-road' 4X4 store that carried bushings for the shock
absorbers).  Refitting all of the bushing in the front suspension (not to
mention the rear suspension) and then re-installing the suspension was a
f___king pain in the ass!!!!  All I kept thinking was: "This better ride
like a Bentley or I'm going drive this f___ker off a cliff!!!!!".  I felt
just like Edison's assistant, who, as the story goes, didn't know what he
was doing.  As a result, finding the right element/substance that would
burn for extended periods of time in the light bulb was a matter of
Herculean persistence and trial and error.  If I had had any knowledge of
what I was getting into with the suspension, I never would have done it!!!!


Take care,  Lance

> [Original Message]
> From: Dirk Burrowes <dirk at vy-tek.com>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Date: 12/3/2006 7:55:35 AM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4
>
> Hi Lance,
>
> Good advice for fitting front springs! Did you buy your front springs
> domestically or did you import them? Just wondering if you found a good
> match with a local sourced one I aim thinking of doing the same thing.
>
> Thanks
> Dirk
>
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>    1. RE:  RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39 (Lance La Certe)
>    2.  Front spring re-installation (Anders Hedelund Larsen)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 07:22:55 -0700
> From: "Lance La Certe" <lacpsyd at earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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>
> Kurt,
>
> I think I can help as I just recently refitted the front springs on my
P6B.
> The only way I was able to get the springs back in was to get 2 SETS OF
> SPRING COMPRESSORS.  I had purchased one set and then discovered that my
> local Checker Auto Parts Store rented spring compressors FOR FREE (they
> take a credit card deposit, and refund you when the tool is returned
> undamaged).
>
> As with any job, the correct tools make all the difference.  Please
contact
> Geoff of geffandjulie at comcast.net, as he mailed me the three ESSENTIAL (in
> my opinion) spring retaining rods which fit inside the three slot of the
> 'cones' at each end of the springs.  Once you have the springs
sufficiently
> compressed with the two sets of compressors, insert the retaining and rods
> and VERY CAREFULLY back off the compressors, checking periodically to make
> sure that the retaining rods remain 'locked' inside the 'cones'.  With the
> compressed spring, reinstallation is very simple.  Place it back in its
> horizontal position, place a dolly under the swivel pillar assembly and
> raise the suspension.  The top link assembly 'arm' will push back into the
> 'cone' further compressing the spring against the fire wall which will
then
> allow you to reach up, rotate the spring retainers back 90 degrees and
> extract them.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Lance La Certe,   Denver, CO   '70  'Federal' P6B 
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>
> > To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> > Date: 11/29/2006 3:04:15 PM
> > Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39
> >
> >
> >
> > >Message: 5
> > >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:42:19 -0800 (PST)
> > >From: Kurt Graffy <kgraffy at yahoo.com>
> > >Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Moving/Towing a P6 Without Road Springs!?
> > >To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> > >Message-ID: <981059.86277.qm at web50313.mail.yahoo.com>
> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > >
> > >This topic is the bane of my existence!...namely the
> > >front road springs.  I have them out of the car and
> > >have not been able (with external spring compressors)
> > >to get them back in the car.  Paul Smith was kind
> > >enough to send me photos of how he's done it, but I
> > >obviously missed something as it didn't work for me
> > >(so far)...apparently the important thing is that the
> > >spring compressor bolts must be 250mm or less...on the
> > >compressor I rented the bolts are 287mm.
> > >
> > >So I bought some Grade 8 hardened washers...am using
> > >them to "shorten" the bolts...we'll find out today if
> > >that will do the trick...but if not....
> > >
> > >Here's the crunch...I'm being evicted from my home of
> > >the last 28 years (building sold, new owner wants to
> > >move into my unit) and I have to have the premises
> > >vacated by Friday...but in the garage is a P6 without
> > >any front suspension or front wheels....it also has no
> > >engine...as that's on the rebuild stand, but that's
> > >probably not a huge issue...that can be moved.
> > >
> > >So without the front suspension together, I've got two
> > >rear wheels on the ground, and two jack stands under
> > >the steel bars in the front jacking points...which
> > >presumably somehow some towing company will use to
> > >attach a towing dolly to the car to move it out of the
> > >garage and to the new garage...except every towing
> > >firm I called said, one way or another..."No way...not
> > >without having wheels on it."
> > >
> > >So...I was wondering how it would be to put the
> > >suspension bits back on ...sans road spring...simply
> > >in order to be able to roll the car out of the garage
> > >and onto the tow truck (presumably a flat bed in this
> > >case) and off the tow truck and into the new
> > >garage...especially as there's no
> > >engine/clutch/transmission weight on the front of the
> > >car.
> > >
> > >Am I crazy?...I'm certainly desperate!
> > >
> > >Kurt
> > >
> > >
> > I have seen a car with a front wheel missing, fell off I think, up on a
> tilt 
> > tray, with a trolley jack supporting where the front wheel was. I would
> have 
> > thought you could jack up under the crossmember, push it out of the
> garage, 
> > and then have it pulled up onto a tilt tray tow truck. Should not be
too 
> > hard with no engine and transmission.
> >
> > When my Rover was bogged in the back yard earlier this year I put some
> wood 
> > under the rear jacking point, then jacked it with a trolley jack, and
> then 
> > pulled it with a strap, to pull the car over. I did this an number of
> times, 
> > and got it out of where I was stuck.
> >
> >
> > James.
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:30:12 +0100
> From: Anders Hedelund Larsen <anders at xoz.dk>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Front spring re-installation
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I did it twice. As I did manage to get hold of some sufficiently strong 
> spring compressors,  I simply reinstalled; but asking around before 
> trying I did get the following advice, from someone who had had the same 
> challenge with other cars:
>
> Compress the springs adequately while outside the car. Then wind them up 
> with lots of string (avoiding, of course, the first turn in each spring 
> end). Reinstall and cut your strings.
>
> Will it hold? If in doubt use more and anyway you will know from the 
> start already before reinstalling.
>
> Anders HL, Copenhagen, Denmark
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:48:03 +0100
From: Anders Hedelund Larsen <anders at xoz.dk>
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 front spring re-installation
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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Btw. the normal set of three clamp type compressors will not fit due to 
the very limited space above the spring. The item that did the trick for 
me was a set similar to these 
http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/880/mia/d/sealey+professional+coil+spring+com
pressor+2250kg/pid/1588706 


My car repair club happened to own such a set.

If only I could find the photographs from when I did it :-)

Anders HL, Copenhagen, Denmark



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 08:14:52 +1100
From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4
To: <lacpsyd at earthlink.net>, <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Message-ID:
	<FBD1E865E6916B4B958ADFD21F42830CE0551E at corpexch1.corp.local>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I did the lower arm inners with my vice, worked ok.
It rides nicely.

PVS

-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
[mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com]On Behalf Of Lance La Certe
Sent: Monday, 4 December 2006 3:15 am
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4


Dirk,

As it turns out both of my original springs were of equal length and in
good shape, so I just reinstalled them.  What I'm really waiting to see
(once I get the engine rebuild finished and re-installed) is how all of the
urethane bushings will work in terms of the ride------I purchased an entire
set of bushings from Scott's Old Auto Rubber (including a set of urethane
bushings from an 'off-road' 4X4 store that carried bushings for the shock
absorbers).  Refitting all of the bushing in the front suspension (not to
mention the rear suspension) and then re-installing the suspension was a
f___king pain in the ass!!!!  All I kept thinking was: "This better ride
like a Bentley or I'm going drive this f___ker off a cliff!!!!!".  I felt
just like Edison's assistant, who, as the story goes, didn't know what he
was doing.  As a result, finding the right element/substance that would
burn for extended periods of time in the light bulb was a matter of
Herculean persistence and trial and error.  If I had had any knowledge of
what I was getting into with the suspension, I never would have done it!!!!


Take care,  Lance

> [Original Message]
> From: Dirk Burrowes <dirk at vy-tek.com>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Date: 12/3/2006 7:55:35 AM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4
>
> Hi Lance,
>
> Good advice for fitting front springs! Did you buy your front springs
> domestically or did you import them? Just wondering if you found a good
> match with a local sourced one I aim thinking of doing the same thing.
>
> Thanks
> Dirk
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf Of
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>    1. RE:  RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39 (Lance La Certe)
>    2.  Front spring re-installation (Anders Hedelund Larsen)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 07:22:55 -0700
> From: "Lance La Certe" <lacpsyd at earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Message-ID: <410-220061262142255425 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Kurt,
>
> I think I can help as I just recently refitted the front springs on my
P6B.
> The only way I was able to get the springs back in was to get 2 SETS OF
> SPRING COMPRESSORS.  I had purchased one set and then discovered that my
> local Checker Auto Parts Store rented spring compressors FOR FREE (they
> take a credit card deposit, and refund you when the tool is returned
> undamaged).
>
> As with any job, the correct tools make all the difference.  Please
contact
> Geoff of geffandjulie at comcast.net, as he mailed me the three ESSENTIAL (in
> my opinion) spring retaining rods which fit inside the three slot of the
> 'cones' at each end of the springs.  Once you have the springs
sufficiently
> compressed with the two sets of compressors, insert the retaining and rods
> and VERY CAREFULLY back off the compressors, checking periodically to make
> sure that the retaining rods remain 'locked' inside the 'cones'.  With the
> compressed spring, reinstallation is very simple.  Place it back in its
> horizontal position, place a dolly under the swivel pillar assembly and
> raise the suspension.  The top link assembly 'arm' will push back into the
> 'cone' further compressing the spring against the fire wall which will
then
> allow you to reach up, rotate the spring retainers back 90 degrees and
> extract them.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Lance La Certe,   Denver, CO   '70  'Federal' P6B 
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>
> > To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> > Date: 11/29/2006 3:04:15 PM
> > Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: rovernet Digest, Vol 48, Issue 39
> >
> >
> >
> > >Message: 5
> > >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:42:19 -0800 (PST)
> > >From: Kurt Graffy <kgraffy at yahoo.com>
> > >Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Moving/Towing a P6 Without Road Springs!?
> > >To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> > >Message-ID: <981059.86277.qm at web50313.mail.yahoo.com>
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> > >
> > >This topic is the bane of my existence!...namely the
> > >front road springs.  I have them out of the car and
> > >have not been able (with external spring compressors)
> > >to get them back in the car.  Paul Smith was kind
> > >enough to send me photos of how he's done it, but I
> > >obviously missed something as it didn't work for me
> > >(so far)...apparently the important thing is that the
> > >spring compressor bolts must be 250mm or less...on the
> > >compressor I rented the bolts are 287mm.
> > >
> > >So I bought some Grade 8 hardened washers...am using
> > >them to "shorten" the bolts...we'll find out today if
> > >that will do the trick...but if not....
> > >
> > >Here's the crunch...I'm being evicted from my home of
> > >the last 28 years (building sold, new owner wants to
> > >move into my unit) and I have to have the premises
> > >vacated by Friday...but in the garage is a P6 without
> > >any front suspension or front wheels....it also has no
> > >engine...as that's on the rebuild stand, but that's
> > >probably not a huge issue...that can be moved.
> > >
> > >So without the front suspension together, I've got two
> > >rear wheels on the ground, and two jack stands under
> > >the steel bars in the front jacking points...which
> > >presumably somehow some towing company will use to
> > >attach a towing dolly to the car to move it out of the
> > >garage and to the new garage...except every towing
> > >firm I called said, one way or another..."No way...not
> > >without having wheels on it."
> > >
> > >So...I was wondering how it would be to put the
> > >suspension bits back on ...sans road spring...simply
> > >in order to be able to roll the car out of the garage
> > >and onto the tow truck (presumably a flat bed in this
> > >case) and off the tow truck and into the new
> > >garage...especially as there's no
> > >engine/clutch/transmission weight on the front of the
> > >car.
> > >
> > >Am I crazy?...I'm certainly desperate!
> > >
> > >Kurt
> > >
> > >
> > I have seen a car with a front wheel missing, fell off I think, up on a
> tilt 
> > tray, with a trolley jack supporting where the front wheel was. I would
> have 
> > thought you could jack up under the crossmember, push it out of the
> garage, 
> > and then have it pulled up onto a tilt tray tow truck. Should not be
too 
> > hard with no engine and transmission.
> >
> > When my Rover was bogged in the back yard earlier this year I put some
> wood 
> > under the rear jacking point, then jacked it with a trolley jack, and
> then 
> > pulled it with a strap, to pull the car over. I did this an number of
> times, 
> > and got it out of where I was stuck.
> >
> >
> > James.
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:30:12 +0100
> From: Anders Hedelund Larsen <anders at xoz.dk>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Front spring re-installation
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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> I did it twice. As I did manage to get hold of some sufficiently strong 
> spring compressors,  I simply reinstalled; but asking around before 
> trying I did get the following advice, from someone who had had the same 
> challenge with other cars:
>
> Compress the springs adequately while outside the car. Then wind them up 
> with lots of string (avoiding, of course, the first turn in each spring 
> end). Reinstall and cut your strings.
>
> Will it hold? If in doubt use more and anyway you will know from the 
> start already before reinstalling.
>
> Anders HL, Copenhagen, Denmark
>
>
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