[ROVERNET - UK] Transmission oils
Dirk Burrowes
dirk at vy-tek.com
Wed Feb 8 04:08:50 GMT 2006
Hi all,
We my son Curtis turns 16 in May and when I was his age my father gave me my
first car to work on before I got my license. Yup you guessed it was a Rover
a 64 SC 2000 to be exact.
So in the spirit of my father instilling a life long Rover love from an
early age I have continued the tradition. So I let my son bid and win on a
3500S that was on EBay and he won it! The car had not been running for the
better part of 20 years so we went through some basics this pat week end.
Cleaning, oil and filter change cleaning of gas lines etc. and low and
behold we were able to get it running with a condenser change and starter
fluid. However it appears that we will have disassemble and clean or even
rebuild the carbs. But otherwise a pretty rust free original car.
I have to say I was proud of how hard he worked and how mechanical he is
becoming.
Now to the question, we want to change the transmission fluid and there has
been a lot of discussion on the net as to what the best fluid to use, but
for the life of me I can't find those posts. So suggestions would be
appreciated along with any first car stories or advice for my son. (I told
him that pretty soon he will have to asking his own questions) As a side
note my 7 year old has staked a claim to a TC 2000 and is picking out colors
he wants to paint it.
Hope all is well
Dirk
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[ROVERNET-UK]
Today's Topics:
1. Re: The Location of Texas (Kent Kinard)
2. Series 2 SD1's For Sale? (Dermot Harvey)
3. Re: 2000 Clutch Woes (Paul Smith)
4. Re: 2000 Clutch Woes (gerald miller)
5. OT - duplicated messages (Peter Mitchell)
6. RE: De-coking a rover V8 (Gavin.Walker at csiro.au)
7. Re: Series 2 SD1's For Sale? (Tom Trafton)
8. Re: De-coking a rover V8 (Kent Kinard)
9. RE: De-coking a rover V8 (Gavin.Walker at csiro.au)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:04:38 -0600
From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] The Location of Texas
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That's haiku or High Coo in Texican;-)
Kent K.
Steven Dibdin wrote:
> Sounds like a hiku (sp?)
>
>
>> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at swbell.net>
>> Reply-To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] The Location of Texas
>> Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:20:59 -0600
>>
>> I just read my own signature and was amazed to discover that it can be
>> read two ways: Rover-over-there-driver-ly or
>> Rover-over-the-Red-River-ly. I'm so clever! (No, just dumb luck.)
>>
>> Kent K.
>>
>> Kent Kinard wrote:
>>
>>> There are Rovers in Montana. I bought a P6B starter from a fella in
>>> Montana who was quite knowledgeable.
>>>
>>> Roverovertheredriverly,
>>> Kent K.
>>>
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:42:11 -0500
From: Dermot Harvey <roverman2 at verizon.net>
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Series 2 SD1's For Sale?
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Anyone out there know of a Series 2 SD1 for sale? I know a few 1982's
were imported into Canada - i haven't heard of any in the US. There is
one for sale in the Toronto Area Rover Club website, but the owner Bill
Osmond has changed his e-mail address. I heard from a Canadian friend
of a Series 2 2000 in Montreal some years ago.It was brought in to be
in a movie, but then I heard that they had to export again as it was
non conforming.
Dermot Harvey
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 08:33:38 +1100
From: "Paul Smith" <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 Clutch Woes
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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185 are fine.
I use them on the SC with standard top links.
Inflate front to 33psi to keep steering light enough.
PVS
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From: "Dermot Harvey" <roverman2 at verizon.net>
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:49 AM
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 Clutch Woes
> Hi,
>
> Thanks Eric and Stephen for the musings on my '69 TC Clutch. Yes,
> Stephen, I usually bleed the clutch as you suggest by taking it off and
> hanging it down. I'm a bit suspicious about the flexible nylon tube
> that connects to the slave cylinder. I am wondering if air is getting
> drawn in around the connection to the steel ends of the pipe. I might
> try making up a solid steel hydraulic line, as I think the nylon
> hydraulic line has been unavailable new for years. I live in Rockland
> County, about 25 miles North of NYC. Come and visit!
> Eric, my clutch was fine until I replaced it many years ago. I probably
> used a GCC192 clutch cover plate with the bare clutch fingers and a
> GCP209 clutch disc. I also used the thick gasket FRC1217 under the
> clutch withdrawal housing. These should be the correct parts for the
> '69. The crank for the slave cylinder was set up correctly as per the
> shop manual.
> This 'new' clutch has always been a bit marginal about withdrawing
> completely. I had a similar problem with a 68 or 69 car that I replaced
> the clutch on for a customer.
> I can only assume that there is a slight difference in the late clutch
> parts (These clutch part numbers are from my 1974 parts book). The 1969
> parts book that I have lists the clutch cover as 571280 and the clutch
> plate as 605005. The Unipart numbers I quoted earlier might not be
> direct supercessions to the Rover part numbers
> Eric, I couldn't find the photos of the clutch on the Rover Car Club of
> Canada website, but I did see pictures of your '69 TC. It is almost
> identical to mine! My TC is Cameron Green with the black Vinyl
> interior, a full length Webasto sunroof and the 'correct' roof top
> antenna! My car also has no a/c but it has Sundym glass. My serial
> number is 85904118F - what's yours? I took the Webasto sunroof from a
> '65 or '66 car plus the Magstar wheels.
> Whilst on the subject of the P6, what tires are people putting on their
> P6's? 165 and 175 tires are pretty much unavailable. I think 185 tires
> may rub on the top link assembly when the car is loaded. The 3500S has
> an offset top link assembly. Also, 185 tires make the steering very
> heavy!
>
> Dermot Harvey
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:10:40 +1300
From: gerald miller <geraldmiller at clear.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 Clutch Woes
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Im running Michelin 195/70/14 on my P6b no problems
cheers
Gerald
NZ 72 p6b
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From: "Paul Smith" <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 Clutch Woes
> 185 are fine.
> I use them on the SC with standard top links.
> Inflate front to 33psi to keep steering light enough.
>
> PVS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dermot Harvey" <roverman2 at verizon.net>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:49 AM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] 2000 Clutch Woes
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks Eric and Stephen for the musings on my '69 TC Clutch. Yes,
>> Stephen, I usually bleed the clutch as you suggest by taking it off and
>> hanging it down. I'm a bit suspicious about the flexible nylon tube
>> that connects to the slave cylinder. I am wondering if air is getting
>> drawn in around the connection to the steel ends of the pipe. I might
>> try making up a solid steel hydraulic line, as I think the nylon
>> hydraulic line has been unavailable new for years. I live in Rockland
>> County, about 25 miles North of NYC. Come and visit!
>> Eric, my clutch was fine until I replaced it many years ago. I probably
>> used a GCC192 clutch cover plate with the bare clutch fingers and a
>> GCP209 clutch disc. I also used the thick gasket FRC1217 under the
>> clutch withdrawal housing. These should be the correct parts for the
>> '69. The crank for the slave cylinder was set up correctly as per the
>> shop manual.
>> This 'new' clutch has always been a bit marginal about withdrawing
>> completely. I had a similar problem with a 68 or 69 car that I replaced
>> the clutch on for a customer.
>> I can only assume that there is a slight difference in the late clutch
>> parts (These clutch part numbers are from my 1974 parts book). The 1969
>> parts book that I have lists the clutch cover as 571280 and the clutch
>> plate as 605005. The Unipart numbers I quoted earlier might not be
>> direct supercessions to the Rover part numbers
>> Eric, I couldn't find the photos of the clutch on the Rover Car Club of
>> Canada website, but I did see pictures of your '69 TC. It is almost
>> identical to mine! My TC is Cameron Green with the black Vinyl
>> interior, a full length Webasto sunroof and the 'correct' roof top
>> antenna! My car also has no a/c but it has Sundym glass. My serial
>> number is 85904118F - what's yours? I took the Webasto sunroof from a
>> '65 or '66 car plus the Magstar wheels.
>> Whilst on the subject of the P6, what tires are people putting on their
>> P6's? 165 and 175 tires are pretty much unavailable. I think 185 tires
>> may rub on the top link assembly when the car is loaded. The 3500S has
>> an offset top link assembly. Also, 185 tires make the steering very
>> heavy!
>>
>> Dermot Harvey
>>
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 06:44:39 -0800
From: "Peter Mitchell" <peterm at arach.net.au>
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] OT - duplicated messages
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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Thanks Eric and listers for your earlier input on posting difficulties.
With regard to my recent duplicated emails, I did a Google search. Most
entries were those of people selling software programs to fix the problem.
Further on in my search though,I found a reference to an article on the
subject by Pamela Y. C. Fong of the California Institute of Technology,
'Outlook XP Downloads Duplicate POP3 Messages'. Pamela suggests increasing
the server timeout to 10 minutes.
I've implemented that and all seems fine now.
As I have noted others to have this problem from time to time, I hope that
this may be of help.
Kind regards
Peter Mitchell
Perth [WA-that's Western Australia down here]
P6B
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:44:49 +1100
From: <Gavin.Walker at csiro.au>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] De-coking a rover V8
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Hi Kent,
I took a look through woolies yesterday and could not find "easy off
blue". Oven cleaners were pretty much all in pressure packs. Most
contained significant amounts of NaOH. One claimed to be "non-caustic",
however the back warned of strong alkaline salts. Since when are strong
alkaline salts "non-caustic"? Other cleaners for stovetops were citrus
based but warned against used with aluminium. In the "easy off" line
woolies stocked "bam" and "degreaser", the later cautioning used with
aluminium. Got me confused, so I haven't bought/tried anything yet.
The V8 upper cylinder kit I bought comes with silvered tin head gaskets.
Why should I remove the silver coating? It also came with gaskets for
both SU and Stromberg carburettors. Having played with both I'm
struggling to see where I use some of it. The kit contains little round
rubber washers, o-rings, copper compression rings. No idea where the
latter would go. Didn't come with any exhaust manifold gaskets, though
I kept asking the shop about those, will have to get them separately.
Lastly I finally got the EGR valve out. It wasn't connected and just
got in the way. Now have a suitable replacement bolt.
Gavin Walker
Canberra, Australia
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:05:55 -0800
From: "Tom Trafton" <v8rover at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Series 2 SD1's For Sale?
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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Dermot
You might check with Alvin Castle (Top Dog Rover, as he calls himself).
Alvin has many SD1 Rovers in various states at his house in Los Angeles and
seems to know quite a bit about the model. I have no idea if he has a
Series 2, however. His email is:
RockStar30cars at aol.com Alvin is a bit difficult to contact at times. If
you have problems let me know and I will forward his cell phone number to
you under 'separate cover'.
Tom
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From: "Dermot Harvey" <roverman2 at verizon.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Series 2 SD1's For Sale?
> Anyone out there know of a Series 2 SD1 for sale? I know a few 1982's
> were imported into Canada - i haven't heard of any in the US. There is
> one for sale in the Toronto Area Rover Club website, but the owner Bill
> Osmond has changed his e-mail address. I heard from a Canadian friend
> of a Series 2 2000 in Montreal some years ago.It was brought in to be
> in a movie, but then I heard that they had to export again as it was
> non conforming.
>
> Dermot Harvey
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:47:31 -0600
From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] De-coking a rover V8
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Hi Gavin,
Almost anything strong enough to soften carbon will damage aluminium. I
noted that there is a caution on this pressure pack also against use on
aluminium, but I have never had problems with this product. I also
haven't let it sit for more than half an hour without flushing and
reapplying. The only contents I could find said "contains
monoethanolamine." I would hesitate to use anything that is not an
identical product so we better just say forget it. Sorry for the time
wasted.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Gavin.Walker at csiro.au wrote:
> Hi Kent,
> I took a look through woolies yesterday and could not find "easy off
> blue". Oven cleaners were pretty much all in pressure packs. Most
> contained significant amounts of NaOH. One claimed to be "non-caustic",
> however the back warned of strong alkaline salts. Since when are strong
> alkaline salts "non-caustic"? Other cleaners for stovetops were citrus
> based but warned against used with aluminium. In the "easy off" line
> woolies stocked "bam" and "degreaser", the later cautioning used with
> aluminium. Got me confused, so I haven't bought/tried anything yet.
>
> The V8 upper cylinder kit I bought comes with silvered tin head gaskets.
> Why should I remove the silver coating? It also came with gaskets for
> both SU and Stromberg carburettors. Having played with both I'm
> struggling to see where I use some of it. The kit contains little round
> rubber washers, o-rings, copper compression rings. No idea where the
> latter would go. Didn't come with any exhaust manifold gaskets, though
> I kept asking the shop about those, will have to get them separately.
>
> Lastly I finally got the EGR valve out. It wasn't connected and just
> got in the way. Now have a suitable replacement bolt.
>
>
> Gavin Walker
> Canberra, Australia
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:04:59 +1100
From: <Gavin.Walker at csiro.au>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] De-coking a rover V8
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Hi Kent,
All is not lost. MEA is a commonly used cleaner. This website gives
a fascinating look into what is in products as well as which brands are
held by a company.
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=chem&i
d=144
Could you take a look at this oven cleaner line up on choice, and see if
that's the product you used? :)
http://www.choice.com.au/viewarticleasonepage.aspx?id=103668&catId=10044
7&tid=100008&p=1
The whole article on oven cleaners makes an interesting read.
Gavin Walker
Canberra, Australia
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