[ROVERNET - UK] P6B oil pump troubles

[Brooks]

Question.....

 by using the drill method are you not turning the engine over as well ?? do 
you need to remove the plugs to alow the engine to turn easier ?
 What is needed to remove the front of the oil pump...is it much of a job to 
do ?

Thanks for your advice..

Regards
 Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Wilson" <glenwilson at cavtel.net>
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P6B oil pump troubles


>> Just using the drill without packing the
>> pump will not guarantee results because the oil level in the sump is
>> below the height of the pump.
>
> I've used the screwdriver gadget with electric drill in the distributor 
> hole
> five or six times, and the oil pressure gauge would quickly go up to the 
> near
> normal range without packing the oil pump. As far as I know, there was oil
> getting to the valvetrain. Was I wrong?
>
> Tie-wrap a bit of hose to the screwdriver end to keep it on the drive 
> shaft.
> That might be the SD1 way to do it...
>
> Glen
>
>
> On Monday 15 May 2006 19:32, Robert Thornton wrote:
>> The most effective way is to remove the base of the pump, pack it
>> tightly with Vaseline so that it oozes out between the gears, replace
>> the cover. Then remove the distributor and one rocker cover. Insert your
>> cut down screwdriver into the oil pump drive slot.  Attach the other end
>> of the screwdriver to an electric drill and switch it on until you see
>> oil appearing at the rockers. Just using the drill without packing the
>> pump will not guarantee results because the oil level in the sump is
>> below the height of the pump. It's also worth checking the pressure
>> relief valve is not stuck open, which is a common problem with these
>> engines.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf Of Brooks
>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:00 AM
>> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P6B oil pump troubles
>>
>> Thanks Alan ...yes the car has been sitting for the past 6 monts and I
>> have never removed the oil pump...the oil pressure is often slow to
>> prime on it's own but it always does it in short order...this time I saw
>> no increase within the first 5 seconds and chose not to let the engine
>> run any longer in case of damage. The other P6B  started and primed
>> quickly but not this one..first time it has happened to me in over 30
>> years so I think the odds have caught up to me :)
>>
>> Regards
>>  Dennis
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Gale" <agale at iinet.net.au>
>> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] P6B oil pump troubles
>>
>> > Dennis -
>> > There was a lot on this a while back, and it has cropped up a couple
>>
>> of
>>
>> > times before that.  I am sure others will be able to give a more
>> > comprehensive answer, but here is a quick and dirty version:
>> > The petroleum jelly method is the book version, but very messy and
>>
>> time
>>
>> > consuming and conjures up all sorts of innuendo-laden images. "Why is
>> > daddy going into the garage with big jar of vaseline, mummy?".
>> > The simplest priming method is to destroy a large screwdriver by
>>
>> removing
>>
>> > the handle, putting the shaft into an electric drill, remove the
>> > distributor (making sure its position is noted) and then insert the
>> > screwdriver blade in the slot of the oil pump and press the trigger.
>>
>> The
>>
>> > pump should prime itself and then start pumping oil into the engine
>>
>> galley
>>
>> > ways.  You will soon tell once the pump primes - the revs drop and the
>> >
>> > drill really works hard.
>> > I vouch for this rather bush mechanic solution and others on the list
>>
>> will
>>
>> > too.  If after doing this there is still no oil pressure, then you
>> > obviously have an a more complex issue.
>> >
>> > Has the car been standing still for a long period of time?
>> > Had you previously removed the oil pump?
>> > Maybe the intake strainer in the sump is clogged?  - I know when i
>>
>> rebuilt
>>
>> > my P6 i was surprised at how clogged with crud mine was.  It was a
>>
>> wonder
>>
>> > any was getting through at all - perhaps that's why the rebuild was
>> > needed.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps -
>> >
>> > Alan G.
>> >
>> >
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