[ROVERNET - UK] You might be a Rover Nut if...

JULIET KEILER lingfield51 at btinternet.com
Fri Nov 30 08:10:18 GMT 2007


Ha Ha, Me thinks I've been quoted out of context... piece of cake compared to lying on your back with arms fully extended and eyes full of rust and cr*p.

Confuscious he say wicker basket better than tin tray but still not as good as QE2!  :) :)

Alan Francis (partviking)

----- Original Message ----
From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
Sent: Thursday, 29 November, 2007 7:11:21 PM
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] You might be a Rover Nut if...

You might be a Rover Nut if you hear yourself saying...

Rear brakes on a P6 Rover? Piece of cake! Undo the differential and drop it down. Prop, drive shaft and mounting bolts are straightforward enough to undo, rear hose and handbrake cable can be a bit of a pain if crudded up with rust. Do any necessary repairs in the comfort of your easy chair. Then lift it all back up, and Bob's your uncle! The only pain left is bleeding the brake lines and possibly one or two small mechanical bits you may have reassembled incorrectly.

or your reply to the above statement sounds like this:

Hi Alan. I'm with you! Those P6 brakes, once mastered, are not too difficult to work on! And floating from Ireland to Canada in a wicker basket, aside from bucking the Gulf Stream currents, was a bit of nothing! 

;-)

Glen




JULIET KEILER wrote:
> Ray,
>        I wouldn't attempt to do them it situ without a pit. Undo the diff and drop it down. Do everything you have to do in the comfort of your garage or being Oz in the sunshine :)  off the car then lift back up. Prop, drivershaft and mounting bolts are straightforward enough to undo, rear hose and h/brake cable can be a bit of a pain if crudded up with rust etc, the only pain left is bleeding on reassembly.
>
> Alan Francis (partviking)
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ray Wilkins <raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com>
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Sent: Thursday, 29 November, 2007 10:45:37 AM
> Subject: RE: R: [ROVERNET - UK] And now, let's upset P6 lovers..REALLY CRAPPY BRAKES??, and other brakes
>
> It would seem to me that the crux of Alan's email is "with a pit or a lift"
> and "with full facilities". The part that gets me is the lying on the back
> with the head raised slightly and straining the neck. Apart from that it's
> all a breeze! But then again it all adds up to the enjoyment and who wants
> to work on a car where every job is easy? Is there such a car? I'd like to
> see that.
>
> Ray Wilkins
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf Of JULIET KEILER
> Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 9:01 PM
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Subject: Re: R: [ROVERNET - UK] And now, let's upset P6 lovers..REALLY
> CRAPPY BRAKES??, and other brakes
>
> I think it's iportant to remember that the P6 was heavily promoted on
> safety. Access panels under or just in front of the fuel tank may well of
> compromised this safety and as has already been said with a pit or a lift
> the job is awkward but hardly difficult. In fact with full facilites it's
> easier to drop the diff. In these days where you have to remove bumpers to
> change headlights I think the P6 IS very DIY friendly and once you have
> mastered the technique of each task not bad at at all. Yes some jobs ARE a
> pain but overall I think it's a resonably easy car to work on. 
>
> Alan Francis (partviking)
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ruotolo Gianluca (MERCATO STAFF) <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.it>
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Sent: Thursday, 29 November, 2007 9:29:02 AM
> Subject: R: [ROVERNET - UK] And now, let's upset P6 lovers..REALLY CRAPPY
> BRAKES??, and other brakes
>
> About contemporary ( p6 ) cars, My Alfa Romeo Giulia Super ( 1963 - 1975,
> then Nuova Super) has 4 disc brakes, but rear ones were external so no
> problem.
> The only thing was that the hand brake system was not the best possible, so
> if you live in a hilly town - e.g. trieste - it must be well regulated, or
> you' ve to choose a good park.
> About rover p6 brakes, I was told that Aston Martins - never owned one - had
> this access panel to serve inboard disc brakes.
> I'm not sure of which one.
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] Per conto di Warwick Brooks
> Inviato: giovedì 29 novembre 2007 5.11
> A: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Oggetto: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] And now,let's upset P6 lovers..REALLY CRAPPY
> BRAKES??.
>
>
> And compare that with the aforementioned 1970s Peugeots, for example.
>
> Unplug the sensor wires, remove the pad pins, lift out the pads, rotate the
> pistons a 1/4 turn using a short length of square-section bar, press them
> back into the calliper, rotate them back again, drop in the new pads, put
> the pins back, plug in the wires.
>
> 5 minutes if you don't count jacking up the car and removing the wheel.
>
> That leaves the rest of the weekend free to try to figure out how to remove
> the fuel pump from the Range Rover without removing the towbar and the
> petrol tank; and wondering why BL decided not to put an access plate in the
> rear floor until a later model.
>
> Regards,
> Warwick.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf Of phing
> Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 2:57 PM
> To: agale at iinet.net.au; rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] And now,let's upset P6 lovers..REALLY CRAPPY
> BRAKES??.
>
> HI
> I've yet to plumb the depths of RVW's rear brakes . However I know they
> can't possibly be as bad as those on an E type Jaguar . 
> These combine Mr Girling's most Mickey Mouse design and crappulous execution
> with total in accesibility from above , below and 
> either side .It took me 3 days to change the parking brake pads and rebuild
> the " self adjusting " mechanism. Yes , I know they 
> shouldn't wear since they are only used when the disc is at rest , but the
> friction material  came unbonded and fell off .!!!However 
> the E type is still looked on as THE British car of all time, mostly by
> people who have never owned a 40 year old E type !! Cheers  Patrick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan Gale" <agale at iinet.net.au>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] And now, let's upset P6 lovers...
>
>
> Look who's gone into the cupboad and got out their best anoraks!!
>
> Considering the relative rarity of the job, the fact that they work well and
> now have been doing so for several decades and how 
> lying on one's back under the car is perhaps one of the last real escapes a
> family man has left over the weekend ...
>
> Is this all we have to whinge about?
>
>
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