[ROVERNET - UK] People who buy Rovers

phing phing at videotron.ca
Mon Apr 7 05:27:43 BST 2008

Rover never built an " estate car ' If one had an " estate ' one had a fleet of Land Rovers and a staff to ferry one and one's 
guests, guns etc  to the shootin' and tow the hoss boxes to the  huntin ' The peons rode their Rover safety bicycles to their 
duties.Rover eventually introduced the Range Rover for the nouveau riche owner driver , the sort of feller  who probably drove 
vulgar Jaguars on the road
 Setriously my 122S Volvo with a Ruddspeed performance package  was cheaper , faster , better built, had more  interior room and a 
bigger trunk, than a P6  .It was a great rally car , mine was hammered unmercifully and wouldn't break .For its era it was as good 
looking as the P6 . Sticking the spare wheel on the trunk lid didn't help the P6's looks or rearward  vision .It did emphasise the 
Land Rover connection
I never saw the point of the De Dion axle , all the complications of IRS and none of the advantages . It was effectively most of  a 
well located solid axle  , with  disc brakes hidden inboard and  the added confusion a sliding joint. The Volvo had a well located 
solid axle , no sliding joint ,  accesible outboard disc brakes and an intelligent hand brake . You could argue abstruse benefits of 
reduced %unsprung weight , but this was not apparent in real life .
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] People who buy Rovers

> phing wrote:
>> Glen
>> It's a pity Rover didn't invest in competent dealers who were equally , "interesting , stylish and better appointed" . The 
>> Toronto Rover shop in the 60s was manned by a bunch of effettee pseudo " English gents ' who looked down on the punters who 
>> fought their way through the pottted palms to see the ' motors ' .Their  general attitude was  " One invests in a Wover , one 
>> doesn't need to test drive a superior motor. A gentleman does not discuss price ; one's man looks after such sordid details "
>> Their incompetence, Rover's evil reputation for variable quality control  and the ridiculous size of the P6 trunk were the 
>> reasons I bought two brick out house Volvos in the 60s
>> Cheers
>> Patrick
> Well, I don't think the P6 trunk was "ridiculously" small. If you want to give up the styling or and the DeDion rear suspension, 
> you can have a bigger trunk. It's possible to design a good-looking car with a big trunk, but there are trade-offs. The original 
> P4 boot was vastly more sexy than the later P4 rear end.
> Besides, Patrick, you man will load the fitted luggage for you anyway, so why complain?
> ;-)
> Offering a model line for sale in the United States in 1960's without a station wagon (estate) probably indicated that Rover was 
> just trying to sell a few cars as a boutique marque rather than making a serious attempt to sell a lot of cars in the USA.  Rover 
> automobiles actually sold pretty well in the USA given the small amount of effort Rover invested in the undertaking.
> And, of course, you could buy a lot of car in the USA for the $4300 Rover wanted for the sporty new 3500S by 1969. The Pontiac GTO 
> hardtop sold for a base price of $3,080 in 1969.  The convertible model sold at a base price of $3,553. For a lot of Americans, 
> that was not quite even a no-brainer. The Buick Electra 225 was about equal in price to the 3500S at $4,400, if you wanted luxury 
> and trunk space!
> Glen
> Glen
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