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From giannid at bigpond.com Fri May 1 22:37:38 2009 From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:37:38 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco Message-ID: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8@Giannis> I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any Roverites in SF that might like to catch up! I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers have lots of P5. P6 parts that I could smuggle in my hand luggage, though a friend who brought back P3 engine mounts for me from the UK had terrible trouble at every airport with the funny looking heavy items in his hand luggage! Cheers Gianni 1948 Rover 75, P3 four light 1949 Rover 75, P3 six light 1969 Rover P5B coupe (5 litre, 5-speed manual) 1971 Rover P6B 3500 1974 Rover P6B 3500S 2004 Land Rover Defender (don't ask why) From kkinard at att.net Sat May 2 08:06:33 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 07:06:33 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco In-Reply-To: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8@Giannis> References: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8@Giannis> Message-ID: <49FC3749.8090501@att.net> Gianni D'Ortenzio wrote: > I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any > Roverites in SF that might like to catch up! > I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers Hi Gianni, Too bad you are not coming through Texas. I would like to hear more details of your P5B Coupe with 5 litre engine and five speed transmission. How did you achieve 5 litres? Which five speed transmission? I have several 5 litre and 5.1 litre "Rover" engines but they all use cast iron blocks. Roverly, Kent K. From dirk at vy-tek.com Sat May 2 15:25:12 2009 From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:25:12 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1241280006.17465.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <07F426B71B3F4AFABA6C9941D32F8CBB@DirkPC2> Hello Gianni, Now if you can stop in Boston on your way home we are having our big Rover event on June 12th through the 14th. Many of your friends here online will be here along with many wonderful Rovers. In fact I am working hard to have my P3 done for then. We will pick you up at the airport, feed you and have a place for you to stay. Try and make it Dirk 978-502-2289 cell -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:00 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. San Francisco (Gianni D'Ortenzio) 2. Re: San Francisco (Kent Kinard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:37:38 +1000 From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8 at Giannis> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any Roverites in SF that might like to catch up! I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers have lots of P5. P6 parts that I could smuggle in my hand luggage, though a friend who brought back P3 engine mounts for me from the UK had terrible trouble at every airport with the funny looking heavy items in his hand luggage! Cheers Gianni 1948 Rover 75, P3 four light 1949 Rover 75, P3 six light 1969 Rover P5B coupe (5 litre, 5-speed manual) 1971 Rover P6B 3500 1974 Rover P6B 3500S 2004 Land Rover Defender (don't ask why) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 07:06:33 -0500 From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <49FC3749.8090501 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Gianni D'Ortenzio wrote: > I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any > Roverites in SF that might like to catch up! > I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers Hi Gianni, Too bad you are not coming through Texas. I would like to hear more details of your P5B Coupe with 5 litre engine and five speed transmission. How did you achieve 5 litres? Which five speed transmission? I have several 5 litre and 5.1 litre "Rover" engines but they all use cast iron blocks. Roverly, Kent K. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2 *************************************** From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 2 19:36:45 2009 From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 09:36:45 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco References: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8@Giannis> <49FC3749.8090501@att.net> Message-ID: <EBC057037E854DBF92733C0160BC721A@Giannis> Hi Kent will get to Texas one day got lots of relatives in many states ( it's the Italian background!) I started with a 3.5 block from a 3500S it was bored and sleeved to take pistons from a 6 cylinder Ford Falcon available in Australia (strong sturdy cheaply available and give desired capacity) a stroker crank made in Melbourne (modelled on the Leyland P76 V8 crank) Rover connecting rods with a little fashioning required to fit Range Rover 4.6 heads with bigger valves, stronger springs and steel shims between valves and head (Rover have nothing there) new all metal timing gear quite a bit of a shave of the heads and decking of block to get compression right (bit of a known recipe in Australia, used to beef up Rangies to 5 litre) I found an Offenhauser 16 port manifold on ebay and topped with a Holley stage one camshaft modified exhaust to dual pipes (running through subframe hole on driver side where handbrake and heater hoses where but easily re-routed) and then....vroom vroom vroom the gearbox is Toyota Supra, you need the long throw (24 &1/2 inches) and as a unit is perfectly matched to either the 3.5 I had it on first or this motor I also did a brake modification which allows bolt on double ventilated performance rotors with modern two pot (Ford again) callipers, using a tophat to fit the Rover Hubs and an adaptor to bolt the new callipers onto the backing plate It now goes and stops.....if only it steered better!! unbelievable torque, barely need to change gears once in 5th we were aiming for a low revving high torque motor and am very pleased with he result, especially since I took it to a friend locally ( Norton motorcycle nut) and asked for a standard rebuild and he just said...Why...it will be cheaper to modify and the rest is history ...of course he was wrong it wasn't cheaper once we did all the other mods required but the engine itself was a is to all intents and purposes a Rover alloy V8 to external appearances! all looks a treat, can send pics if you are interested Gianni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco > Gianni D'Ortenzio wrote: >> I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any >> Roverites in SF that might like to catch up! >> I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers > Hi Gianni, > Too bad you are not coming through Texas. I would like to hear more > details of your P5B Coupe with 5 litre engine and five speed transmission. > How did you achieve 5 litres? Which five speed transmission? > > I have several 5 litre and 5.1 litre "Rover" engines but they all use cast > iron blocks. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 2 19:41:31 2009 From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 09:41:31 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2 References: <07F426B71B3F4AFABA6C9941D32F8CBB@DirkPC2> Message-ID: <0E5E1B8504B24EBEBE796A158AB7CF01@Giannis> Hello Dirk now that I would dearly love to see! unfortunately I have to be back in Australia by end of May and am off to Lake Eyre (google: lake eyre sailing) it is a great inland sea in central Australia which is currently filling up and it teems with bird life and fish for a brief period before returning to salt flats where land speed records are attempted (remember the bluebird?) But with your fantastic and generous offer I will have to try for that next year!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Burrowes" <dirk at vy-tek.com> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2 > Hello Gianni, > > Now if you can stop in Boston on your way home we are having our big Rover > event on June 12th through the 14th. Many of your friends here online will > be here along with many wonderful Rovers. In fact I am working hard to > have > my P3 done for then. We will pick you up at the airport, feed you and have > a > place for you to stay. Try and make it > > Dirk > 978-502-2289 cell > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:00 PM > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2 > > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to > which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. San Francisco (Gianni D'Ortenzio) > 2. Re: San Francisco (Kent Kinard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:37:38 +1000 > From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <7EAD7E3FEEE74AC8892210B286C22EB8 at Giannis> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any > Roverites in SF that might like to catch up! > I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers > > have lots of P5. P6 parts that I could smuggle in my hand luggage, though > a > friend who brought back P3 engine mounts for me from the UK had terrible > trouble at every airport with the funny looking heavy items in his hand > luggage! > Cheers Gianni > 1948 Rover 75, P3 four light > 1949 Rover 75, P3 six light > 1969 Rover P5B coupe (5 litre, 5-speed manual) > 1971 Rover P6B 3500 > 1974 Rover P6B 3500S > 2004 Land Rover Defender (don't ask why) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 07:06:33 -0500 > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] San Francisco > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <49FC3749.8090501 at att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Gianni D'Ortenzio wrote: >> I am visiting SF late May for 8 days and wondering if there are any >> Roverites in SF that might like to catch up! >> I'd love to see what is happening in the states with Rovers > Hi Gianni, > Too bad you are not coming through Texas. I would like to hear more > details > of your P5B Coupe with 5 litre engine and five speed transmission. How > did > you achieve 5 litres? Which five speed transmission? > > I have several 5 litre and 5.1 litre "Rover" engines but they all use cast > iron blocks. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2 > *************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Sat May 2 20:50:21 2009 From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 17:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Brake lights/relay 67 TC In-Reply-To: <0E5E1B8504B24EBEBE796A158AB7CF01@Giannis> Message-ID: <20384.63597.qm@web83007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello to all! ? I added the relay as discussed and it works great! ? The?brake light switch is used to energize the relay only,?the dry contacts on the relay switch on the brake lights perfectly! ? I did buy a new switch and will eventually install it. ? Cheers, Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090502/27f3ce0e/attachment.html> From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Mon May 4 18:59:54 2009 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1980 SD1 Heads Message-ID: <58432.206.255.126.52.1241477994.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> I'm building an engine for my USA 1980 SD1. I sent the heads off to be rebuilt. Now they are back and I don't know which is left and right head. They look interchangeable, are they? Thanks Nick From kkinard at att.net Mon May 4 20:57:28 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:57:28 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1980 SD1 Heads In-Reply-To: <58432.206.255.126.52.1241477994.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> References: <58432.206.255.126.52.1241477994.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Message-ID: <49FF8EF8.9030204@att.net> Hi Nick, Yes, they are interchangeable. If you disassembled the rockers, make sure you get the shafts right side up or the rockers won't oil properly. Unless there are signs of wear on the rockers or shafts, I usually do not disassemble. Roverly, Kent K. flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote: > I'm building an engine for my USA 1980 SD1. I sent the heads off to be > rebuilt. Now they are back and I don't know which is left and right head. > They look interchangeable, are they? Thanks Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Mon May 4 23:39:27 2009 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Heads Message-ID: <60468.206.255.126.52.1241494767.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Thanks Kent. Rockers and shafts look ok. So I'll be leaving them alone. I'm anxious to get finished, I'm trying to do something every day. Will keep you posted. Nick P.S. don't forget the open invitation to stop in Oklahoma. Hi Nick, Yes, they are interchangeable. If you disassembled the rockers, make sure you get the shafts right side up or the rockers won't oil properly. Unless there are signs of wear on the rockers or shafts, I usually do not disassemble. Roverly, Kent K. flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote: > I'm building an engine for my USA 1980 SD1. I sent the heads off to be > rebuilt. Now they are back and I don't know which is left and right head. > They look interchangeable, are they? Thanks Nick From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Tue May 5 04:15:52 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 04:15:52 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2 Message-ID: <d1f.47b887f5.37314fb8@aol.com> Arrr Gianni, Now we know why you have a Defender. Please be carefull in the extremely saline conditions. I noticed a couple of months ago that they now have a Club House out there. The Commodore was on TV here in BrisVegas a month or so ago. I am planning to get out there one day. Maybe the next flood. I have FD's and 18's, not compatible with the Lake, unless they get a 70's type flood. I'll get an old Hobie for the Lake and give it to the Club when I am finished. Rover content is that I will use my old 4.4 Rangie to get out there, or its Heir or Successor. Good Series 2 Disco's are getting cheap in Brissie. Regards all, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090505/705c8632/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Tue May 5 08:41:35 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 07:41:35 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] More on Heads VERY IMPORTANT In-Reply-To: <60468.206.255.126.52.1241494767.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> References: <60468.206.255.126.52.1241494767.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Message-ID: <4A0033FF.8080402@att.net> Hi Nick, If you are rebuilding the engine it is very important to install oil restrictors in either the heads or the block and to replace the cam bearings. We have had several cases of rod bearing failure in MGBV8 conversions here where the Rover V8 was "rebuilt" with new rod and main bearings but the cam bearings and rocker shaft/rocker arms were not renewed. Engines lasted only a few thousand miles before rod bearing failure. There is too much oil in the top end of the engine, even when new, and this is aggravated when the rods and mains are replaced (thus tightening the clearances in the bottom end) and the top end clearances are not tightened up at the same time. There are several solutions that do not involve replacing the rocker arms and shafts. The easiest way (and the only way if you have already installed new cam bearings) is to fit "oil restrictors" to the oil feed lines coming from the block into each head. The restrictor is nothing more than a grub screw with a hole drilled through the middle. They can be installed in either the heads or the block, one per side. If you install the restrictors in the heads, the heads will no longer be interchangeable since the restrictors should both be at the front of the engine where the oil feed holes come from the block. I've been trying to find the fitting instructions in Des Hammill's book, but haven't found them yet. More later. Roverly, Kent K. From kkinard at att.net Tue May 5 09:44:23 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 08:44:23 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Additional info In-Reply-To: <4A0033FF.8080402@att.net> References: <60468.206.255.126.52.1241494767.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> <4A0033FF.8080402@att.net> Message-ID: <4A0042B7.3000709@att.net> Nick et al, If you have already assembled the short block, drill the oil feed holes on the deck surface of the heads for 1/4 inch UNC grub (allen head) screws drilled through the center to .035-.040in./.75-1.0mm., screws should be installed so they do not protrude above the deck surface. Because the heads are manufactured to be interchangeable they have two oil feed holes, the rearmost feed holes become blind when the heads are fitted to the block. Therefore, you only need to fit restrictors to the FRONT hole of each head. Mark the heads Left and Right for reference since they will no longer be interchangeable. If you have not yet installed the cam bearings there is an additional modification that is recommended. If you have not yet had the block machined, get back to me. Roverly, Kent K. Kent Kinard wrote: > Hi Nick, > If you are rebuilding the engine it is very important to install oil > restrictors in either the heads or the block and to replace the cam > bearings. We have had several cases of rod bearing failure in MGBV8 > conversions here where the Rover V8 was "rebuilt" with new rod and > main bearings but the cam bearings and rocker shaft/rocker arms were > not renewed. Engines lasted only a few thousand miles before rod > bearing failure. There is too much oil in the top end of the engine, > even when new, and this is aggravated when the rods and mains are > replaced (thus tightening the clearances in the bottom end) and the > top end clearances are not tightened up at the same time. > > There are several solutions that do not involve replacing the rocker > arms and shafts. The easiest way (and the only way if you have > already installed new cam bearings) is to fit "oil restrictors" to the > oil feed lines coming from the block into each head. The restrictor > is nothing more than a grub screw with a hole drilled through the > middle. They can be installed in either the heads or the block, one > per side. > > If you install the restrictors in the heads, the heads will no longer > be interchangeable since the restrictors should both be at the front > of the engine where the oil feed holes come from the block. > > I've been trying to find the fitting instructions in Des Hammill's > book, but haven't found them yet. > > More later. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Tue May 5 13:53:55 2009 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction Message-ID: <60888.206.255.126.52.1241546035.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Hi Kent , short block is rebuilt. Engine had 75000 miles on it. Cam bearings looked good and new ,cam felt good and tight[ new cam and lifters]. I have not restricted oil flow to rockers.Your recomendation is to put restrictors in heads if block is built? I have Reinforcement Stands to install on rocker shafts. I've been following D&D's recomendations so far. Thanks Nick From nash4447 at cs.com Tue May 5 16:11:36 2009 From: nash4447 at cs.com (nash4447 at cs.com) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:11:36 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Heads In-Reply-To: <60468.206.255.126.52.1241494767.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> References: <60468.206.255.126.52.1241494767.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Message-ID: <8CB9BD4D3857002-A3C-13C2@webmail-mf17.sysops.aol.com> Hi Nick Who rebuilt the shortblock for you?? Was reboring necessary or did you stick with standard size on everything? Were new pistons needed or were the originals serviceable? Thanks !?? Glenn?? Los Angeles -----Original Message----- From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:39 pm Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Heads Thanks Kent. Rockers and shafts look ok. So I'll be leaving them alone. I'm anxious to get finished, I'm trying to do something every day. Will keep you posted. Nick P.S. don't forget the open invitation to stop in Oklahoma. Hi Nick, Yes, they are interchangeable. If you disassembled the rockers, make sure you get the shafts right side up or the rockers won't oil properly. Unless there are signs of wear on the rockers or shafts, I usually do not disassemble. Roverly, Kent K. flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote: > I'm building an engine for my USA 1980 SD1. I sent the heads off to be > rebuilt. Now they are back and I don't know which is left and right head. > They look interchangeable, are they? 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From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Tue May 5 18:22:19 2009 From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:22:19 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals In-Reply-To: <328427.74289.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <328427.74289.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A1@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Exhaust have smaller diameter stems than inlets. PVS -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Eric Russell Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2009 8:17 AM To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals Hi, Does anyone know which of the two valve guide seals in a 2000 engine is smaller? The inlet? The exhaust? 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Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> wrote: > From: Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 3:22 PM > Exhaust have smaller diameter stems > than inlets. > > PVS > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On Behalf Of Eric Russell > Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2009 8:17 AM > To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide > seals > > > Hi, > Does anyone know which of the two valve guide seals in a > 2000 engine is smaller? > > The inlet? > The exhaust? > > TIA > > Eric > > Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada > Website:? http://www.roverclub.ca/ > Webmaster of a variety of sites from: > http://www.websrus.ca > > > ? ? ? > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! 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From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Tue May 5 18:41:59 2009 From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:41:59 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals In-Reply-To: <711211.18693.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <711211.18693.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A2@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Ahhh not off my memory. It is in the manual, but that is at home. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Eric Russell Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2009 8:29 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> wrote: > Exhaust have smaller diameter stems than inlets. Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-) Would you know the diameter of the stems? 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Transend utilises third party virus checking software and will not be held responsible for the inability of third party software packages to detect or prevent the propagation of any virus how so ever generated. ########################################################################################## From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 5 18:46:15 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:46:15 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals In-Reply-To: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A2@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> References: <711211.18693.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A2@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Message-ID: <793904DC-AEB7-463A-A208-86966630BC67@inkspotco.com> I've looked it up, inlet is .3145", exhaust is .3415" Yours Vern On 5-May-09, at 3:41 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > Ahhh not off my memory. > It is in the manual, but that is at home. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > ] On Behalf Of Eric Russell > Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2009 8:29 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals > > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> wrote: > >> Exhaust have smaller diameter stems than inlets. > > Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-) > > Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8 of > one valve guide or the other NOS. I'd prefer knowing which I have. > > Eric > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark > your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > ########################################################################################## > The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may > include > confidential or privileged information and is intended solely for > the named recipient(s). > If you are not a named recipient of this message, you may not copy > or deliver the > contents of this message or its attachments to anyone. > If you have received this message in error, please notify me > immediately by return > email or by the telephone number listed above and destroy the > original message. > Transend utilises third party virus checking software and will not > be held responsible > for the inability of third party software packages to detect or > prevent the propagation > of any virus how so ever generated. > ########################################################################################## > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Tue May 5 19:07:30 2009 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Engine rebuild Message-ID: <61129.206.255.126.52.1241564850.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Hi Glenn, I rebuilt the short block myself. I got all the parts and a lot of good advice from Mark at D&D in MI. http://www.aluminumv8.com/contact/contact.htm I had the block bored 20 over and raised the compression. Crank was ground 10/10. Nick Hi Nick Who rebuilt the shortblock for you?? Was reboring necessary or did you stick with standard size on everything? Were new pistons needed or were the originals serviceable? Thanks !?? Glenn?? Los Angeles From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Tue May 5 19:09:25 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:09:25 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] question? References: <60468.206.255.126.52.1241494767.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com><4A0033FF.8080402@att.net> <4A0042B7.3000709@att.net> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP37F4AFA5D6FB3BE22ADB1695690@phx.gbl> Hi Folks My Series Two TC has the same trunk lid addition as the P6B's for the spare wheel. My question is, has anyone found a way to install the spare on the lid without marking the paint work. I'd like to put the wheel there but hesitate because of the probable damage to the paint. I used to put the wheel there on my last P6B and used a lambs wool cover under the tire, it still cause a mark and also was often very damp. Regards Ben (irishrover) Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Tue May 5 22:01:04 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:31:04 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals In-Reply-To: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A2@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> References: <711211.18693.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A2@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Message-ID: <4A00EF60.3040409@ozemail.com.au> Hi Eric From the Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 & 2200 Dimensions for the 2000 & 2200 identical at .......... Inlet stem - 0.3145 Exhaust stem 0.3145 Guide bore Inlet - 0.315 Exhaust - 0.3438 Inlet valve head dia 1.654 - 1.65 Exhaust valve head dia 2000 - 1.341 - 1.337 2200 - 1.462 - 1.466 Cheers Dave South Oz > Eric wrote: ..... > > Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-) > > Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8 of one valve guide or the other NOS. I'd prefer knowing which I have. > > Eric From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 5 23:00:33 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:00:33 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals In-Reply-To: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A2@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> References: <711211.18693.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A2@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Message-ID: <F971792A-5429-4DAB-94A3-BA0E54FCC843@inkspotco.com> I've looked it up, inlet is .3145", exhaust is .3415" Yours Vern On 5-May-09, at 3:41 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > Ahhh not off my memory. > It is in the manual, but that is at home. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > ] On Behalf Of Eric Russell > Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2009 8:29 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals > > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> wrote: > >> Exhaust have smaller diameter stems than inlets. > > Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-) > > Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8 of > one valve guide or the other NOS. I'd prefer knowing which I have. > > Eric > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark > your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > ########################################################################################## > The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may > include > confidential or privileged information and is intended solely for > the named recipient(s). > If you are not a named recipient of this message, you may not copy > or deliver the > contents of this message or its attachments to anyone. > If you have received this message in error, please notify me > immediately by return > email or by the telephone number listed above and destroy the > original message. > Transend utilises third party virus checking software and will not > be held responsible > for the inability of third party software packages to detect or > prevent the propagation > of any virus how so ever generated. > ########################################################################################## > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 5 23:04:28 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:04:28 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals In-Reply-To: <4A00EF60.3040409@ozemail.com.au> References: <711211.18693.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A2@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> <4A00EF60.3040409@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <16852150-268E-47F8-8F46-12448869FB62@inkspotco.com> Hi Dave I'm afraid that is a misprint (or a misread). Inlet is .3145, exhaust is .3415. This from the official workshop manual. Tricky, because they have only two digits transposed between the two, but the metric measurement confirms that they are different. Yours Vern On 5-May-09, at 7:01 PM, David Read wrote: > Hi Eric > From the Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 & 2200 > Dimensions for the 2000 & 2200 identical at .......... > Inlet stem - 0.3145 > Exhaust stem 0.3145 > > Guide bore > Inlet - 0.315 > Exhaust - 0.3438 > > Inlet valve head dia > 1.654 - 1.65 > > Exhaust valve head dia > 2000 - 1.341 - 1.337 > 2200 - 1.462 - 1.466 > > Cheers > Dave > South Oz > >> Eric wrote: ..... >> Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-) >> Would you know the diameter of the stems? I seem to have about 8 >> of one valve guide or the other NOS. I'd prefer knowing which I have. >> Eric > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue May 5 23:09:37 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals Message-ID: <508075.1272.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks all. Got the seals sorted. Working on the valve guides at the moment. Wondering if I have more than one type of Rover guide. Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote: > From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 8:04 PM > Hi Dave > > I'm afraid that is a misprint (or a misread). Inlet is > .3145, exhaust is .3415. This from the official workshop > manual. Tricky, because they have only two digits transposed > between the two, but the metric measurement confirms that > they are different. > > Yours > Vern > > On 5-May-09, at 7:01 PM, David Read wrote: > > > Hi Eric > > From the Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 & > 2200 > > Dimensions for the 2000 & 2200 identical at > .......... > > Inlet stem - 0.3145 > > Exhaust stem 0.3145 > > > > Guide bore > > Inlet - 0.315 > > Exhaust - 0.3438 > > > > Inlet valve head dia > > 1.654 - 1.65 > > > > Exhaust valve head dia > > 2000 - 1.341 - 1.337 > > 2200 - 1.462 - 1.466 > > > > Cheers > > Dave > > South Oz > > > >> Eric wrote: ..... > >> Now that I have the seals sorted..... :-) > >> Would you know the diameter of the stems?? I > seem to have about 8 of one valve guide or the other NOS. > I'd prefer knowing which I have. > >> Eric > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as > digest mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed May 6 01:04:14 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:34:14 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals -oops! In-Reply-To: <16852150-268E-47F8-8F46-12448869FB62@inkspotco.com> References: <711211.18693.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E1792532BE3B29A2@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> <4A00EF60.3040409@ozemail.com.au> <16852150-268E-47F8-8F46-12448869FB62@inkspotco.com> Message-ID: <4A011A4E.7040009@ozemail.com.au> Yes Vern - Senior Moment, you are correct ;-) Eric, from Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 & 2200 Valve guides Bore dia - In - 0.315 Ex - 0.3438 Bore length In - 2.525 to 2.531 Ex - 2.525 to 2.531 Cheers Dave South Oz Vern Klukas wrote: > Hi Dave > > I'm afraid that is a misprint (or a misread). Inlet is .3145, exhaust is > .3415. This from the official workshop manual. Tricky, because they have > only two digits transposed between the two, but the metric measurement > confirms that they are different. > > Yours > Vern From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed May 6 01:30:20 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 22:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals -oops! Message-ID: <319420.86896.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Excellent. Thanks very much, Dave. Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Tue, 5/5/09, David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> wrote: > From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 valve guide seals -oops! > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 10:04 PM > Yes Vern - Senior Moment, you are > correct > ;-) > > Eric, from Autobooks workshop manual for the 2000 & > 2200 > > Valve guides > Bore dia - > In - 0.315 > Ex - 0.3438 > > Bore length > In - 2.525 to 2.531 > Ex - 2.525 to 2.531 > > Cheers > Dave > South Oz > > > Vern Klukas wrote: > > Hi Dave > > > > I'm afraid that is a misprint (or a misread). Inlet is > .3145, exhaust is .3415. This from the official workshop > manual. Tricky, because they have only two digits transposed > between the two, but the metric measurement confirms that > they are different. > > > > Yours > > Vern > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From roverfreak619 at yahoo.com Wed May 6 02:26:55 2009 From: roverfreak619 at yahoo.com (Rover freak) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 23:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] To Eric//// valve guide seals Message-ID: <603295.97930.qm@web111305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To / Eric. ?? The intake Seals are smaller and the exhaust seals are larger,, you and measure them,, they are very much the same,, but when you put the valvs in you would notice a slight difference.? From Nelson of California P4 Rovers P6 Rovers Hi, Does anyone know which of the two valve guide seals in a 2000 engine is smaller? The inlet? The exhaust? TIA Eric -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090505/e7f2351e/attachment.html> From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Wed May 6 18:51:37 2009 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction Message-ID: <50759.206.255.126.52.1241650297.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are very hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That softened them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful and put them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap. 40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick From kr5927 at gmail.com Wed May 6 22:27:41 2009 From: kr5927 at gmail.com (Kevin Ross) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:27:41 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1971 Rover 2000 TC for Sale (Parts Car) Message-ID: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com> Hi: I have a Rover 2000 TC for Sale... for parts. I am located in Burlington, Ontario, Canada. Best Offer... Photos are available upon request. Thanks. Regards, Kevin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090506/d0852d8e/attachment.html> From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Wed May 6 23:41:24 2009 From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:41:24 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer Message-ID: <COL111-DS18A6D30C661FBFC709380283670@phx.gbl> Hey gang, Here's an obscure reference to Rover and the great Archimedes. Did any of you catch the History channel the other night which featured a re-creation of Archimedes' odometer (yes, he's the one who is credited with inventing the first one). Out of the blue they are making a reference to the odometer in automobiles and they feature exterior and interior (instrument) photos of a P4 (possibly a P3?----I'm one of those ignorant P6 owners who is not as sharp on the other Rover models!!!). Why in the world they featured an antique Rover is clearly a mystery!!! Maybe the producer had a Rover and put the 'screws'(LOL, partially obscure joke!!) to the director!!!! Lance La Certe, Psy.D. '70 3500S From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Wed May 6 23:45:21 2009 From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:45:21 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS18A6D30C661FBFC709380283670@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-DS18A6D30C661FBFC709380283670@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C720D@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Tsk tsk. There was a line in Freewheeling once: "Half these people driving P6s wouldn't know a P4 for a Rover." PVS -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2009 1:41 PM To: Rovernet Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer Hey gang, Here's an obscure reference to Rover and the great Archimedes. Did any of you catch the History channel the other night which featured a re-creation of Archimedes' odometer (yes, he's the one who is credited with inventing the first one). Out of the blue they are making a reference to the odometer in automobiles and they feature exterior and interior (instrument) photos of a P4 (possibly a P3?----I'm one of those ignorant P6 owners who is not as sharp on the other Rover models!!!). Why in the world they featured an antique Rover is clearly a mystery!!! Maybe the producer had a Rover and put the 'screws'(LOL, partially obscure joke!!) to the director!!!! Lance La Certe, Psy.D. '70 3500S _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ########################################################################################## The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may include confidential or privileged information and is intended solely for the named recipient(s). If you are not a named recipient of this message, you may not copy or deliver the contents of this message or its attachments to anyone. If you have received this message in error, please notify me immediately by return email or by the telephone number listed above and destroy the original message. Transend utilises third party virus checking software and will not be held responsible for the inability of third party software packages to detect or prevent the propagation of any virus how so ever generated. ########################################################################################## From rovercar at comcast.net Thu May 7 05:31:24 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 05:31:24 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer In-Reply-To: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C720D@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> References: <COL111-DS18A6D30C661FBFC709380283670@phx.gbl> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C720D@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Message-ID: <4A02AA6C.9050801@comcast.net> Paul Smith wrote: > Tsk tsk. > There was a line in Freewheeling once: > "Half these people driving P6s wouldn't know a P4 for a Rover." > > PVS > Insufficient population density of doctors and college professors in Colorado in the 40's and 50's to support a market for Rovers. Lance's parents were early French Jesuit missionary-explorers who moved west to shoot buffalo and carrier pigeons but later turned to the practice of psychology in order to purchase proper automobiles. ;-) Glen > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE > Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2009 1:41 PM > To: Rovernet > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer > > Hey gang, > > Here's an obscure reference to Rover and the great Archimedes. Did any of > you catch the History channel the other night which featured a re-creation > of Archimedes' odometer (yes, he's the one who is credited with inventing > the first one). Out of the blue they are making a reference to the odometer > in automobiles and they feature exterior and interior (instrument) photos of > a P4 (possibly a P3?----I'm one of those ignorant P6 owners who is not as > sharp on the other Rover models!!!). Why in the world they featured an > antique Rover is clearly a mystery!!! Maybe the producer had a Rover and put > the 'screws'(LOL, partially obscure joke!!) to the director!!!! > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D. '70 3500S > From kkinard at att.net Thu May 7 07:57:17 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 06:57:17 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer In-Reply-To: <4A02AA6C.9050801@comcast.net> References: <COL111-DS18A6D30C661FBFC709380283670@phx.gbl> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C720D@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> <4A02AA6C.9050801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A02CC9D.9010104@att.net> Glen Wilson wrote: > Insufficient population density of doctors and college professors in > Colorado in the 40's and 50's to support a market for Rovers. > Lance's parents were early French Jesuit missionary-explorers who > moved west to shoot buffalo and carrier pigeons but later turned to > the practice of psychology in order to purchase proper automobiles. > > ;-) > > Glen > Ah, there's the Glen Wilson I know. Kent K. From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu May 7 10:19:23 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer Message-ID: <681094.57274.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Sooth, the court jester has returnith". :-) Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 4:57 AM > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Insufficient population density of doctors and college > professors in Colorado in the 40's and 50's to support a > market for Rovers. > > Lance's parents were early French Jesuit > missionary-explorers who moved west to shoot buffalo and > carrier pigeons but later turned to the practice of > psychology in order to purchase proper automobiles. > > > > ;-) > > > > Glen > > > Ah, there's the Glen Wilson I know. Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From kkinard at att.net Thu May 7 16:04:19 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:04:19 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction In-Reply-To: <50759.206.255.126.52.1241650297.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> References: <50759.206.255.126.52.1241650297.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Message-ID: <4A033EC3.8020100@att.net> Hi Nick, If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon enough. Roverly, Kent K. flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote: > Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are very > hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That softened > them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful and put > them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap. > 40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will > have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a > very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From vern at inkspotco.com Thu May 7 16:20:23 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:20:23 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction In-Reply-To: <4A033EC3.8020100@att.net> References: <50759.206.255.126.52.1241650297.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> <4A033EC3.8020100@att.net> Message-ID: <E0F2678F-CADB-445E-8BF7-C262B23B6400@inkspotco.com> A .0625 hole is a little under 2.5 times as big as a .040 hole in terms of flow. But it is still 12 times smaller than stock. Yours Vern On 7-May-09, at 1:04 PM, Kent Kinard wrote: > Hi Nick, > If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon > enough. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote: >> Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are >> very >> hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That >> softened >> them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful >> and put >> them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap. >> 40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will >> have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a >> very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Thu May 7 18:02:11 2009 From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:02:11 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer In-Reply-To: <681094.57274.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <681094.57274.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C7213@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Gasp, a soothsayer... -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Eric Russell Sent: Friday, 8 May 2009 12:19 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer "Sooth, the court jester has returnith". :-) Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 4:57 AM > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Insufficient population density of doctors and college > professors in Colorado in the 40's and 50's to support a > market for Rovers. > > Lance's parents were early French Jesuit > missionary-explorers who moved west to shoot buffalo and > carrier pigeons but later turned to the practice of > psychology in order to purchase proper automobiles. > > > > ;-) > > > > Glen > > > Ah, there's the Glen Wilson I know. Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ########################################################################################## The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may include confidential or privileged information and is intended solely for the named recipient(s). If you are not a named recipient of this message, you may not copy or deliver the contents of this message or its attachments to anyone. If you have received this message in error, please notify me immediately by return email or by the telephone number listed above and destroy the original message. Transend utilises third party virus checking software and will not be held responsible for the inability of third party software packages to detect or prevent the propagation of any virus how so ever generated. ########################################################################################## From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Fri May 8 08:30:20 2009 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 05:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction Message-ID: <53067.206.255.126.52.1241785820.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Hi, Kent, Vern, I'll report back when I get her running. 12 times smaller than stock for a road engine, hopefully is enough. I got tired of cleaning hardware today; so I through it all in a bucket and took it to be cleaned and plated. $5.00 a lb. NEED to get her running! Nick A .0625 hole is a little under 2.5 times as big as a .040 hole in terms of flow. But it is still 12 times smaller than stock. Yours Vern On 7-May-09, at 1:04 PM, Kent Kinard wrote: > Hi Nick, > If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon > enough. > > Roverly, > Kent K. From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Fri May 8 12:53:24 2009 From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:53:24 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Odometers redux In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1241798421.25498.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.7.1241798421.25498.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <COL111-DS1395AF25FF1D901BC3B94083640@phx.gbl> Glen has it backwards. My mother was a carrier pigeon and my father a buffalo. They escaped the French Jesuit missonaries by stowing away on a Viking ship. Lance La Certe, Psy.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 9 > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to > which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction (Kent Kinard) > 2. Re: SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction (Vern Klukas) > 3. Re: Archimedes odometer (Paul Smith) > 4. SD 1 rebuild oil hole restriction (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:04:19 -0500 > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole > restriction > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4A033EC3.8020100 at att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Nick, > If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon enough. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote: > > Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are very > > hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That > > softened > > them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful and put > > them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap. > > 40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will > > have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a > > very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:20:23 -0700 > From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 rebuild oil hole > restriction > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <E0F2678F-CADB-445E-8BF7-C262B23B6400 at inkspotco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > A .0625 hole is a little under 2.5 times as big as a .040 hole in > terms of flow. But it is still 12 times smaller than stock. > > Yours > Vern > > On 7-May-09, at 1:04 PM, Kent Kinard wrote: > > > Hi Nick, > > If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon > > enough. > > > > Roverly, > > Kent K. > > > > flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote: > >> Hi Kent, drilling holes in grub/set screws, is not easy! They are > >> very > >> hard. I ended up heating them cherry red and let them cool. That > >> softened > >> them enough ,for me to be able to drill them. I was very careful > >> and put > >> them in the block. I let the grub screw act as them tap. > >> 40th looks very small, so I ended up using a 1/16 hole. I'll will > >> have to wait and see if that was a good decision. It still looks a > >> very small hole. Thanks for your help Nick > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rovernet mailing list > >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > >> no-mail: > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > > mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:02:11 +1000 > From: Paul Smith <Paul.Smith at transend.com.au> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer > To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: > <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C7213 at EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Gasp, a soothsayer... > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On Behalf Of Eric Russell > Sent: Friday, 8 May 2009 12:19 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer > > > "Sooth, the court jester has returnith". :-) > > Eric > > > Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada > Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ > Webmaster of a variety of sites from: > http://www.websrus.ca > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: > > > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Archimedes odometer > > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 4:57 AM > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > > Insufficient population density of doctors and college > > professors in Colorado in the 40's and 50's to support a > > market for Rovers. > > > Lance's parents were early French Jesuit > > missionary-explorers who moved west to shoot buffalo and > > carrier pigeons but later turned to the practice of > > psychology in order to purchase proper automobiles. > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > Glen > > > > > Ah, there's the Glen Wilson I know. 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I got tired of cleaning hardware today; so I > through it all in a bucket and took it to be cleaned > and plated. $5.00 a lb. NEED to get her running! > Nick > > > > A .0625 hole is a little under 2.5 times as big as a .040 hole in > terms of flow. But it is still 12 times smaller than stock. > > Yours > Vern > > On 7-May-09, at 1:04 PM, Kent Kinard wrote: > > > Hi Nick, > > If it works, we'll never know. If it doesn't, we'll find out soon > > enough. > > > > Roverly, > > Kent K. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 9 > *************************************** > From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 13:36:05 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:36:05 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Odometers redux References: <mailman.7.1241798421.25498.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <COL111-DS1395AF25FF1D901BC3B94083640@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP67F061863DDCB033384D1195640@phx.gbl> Would have received much better and speedy service if they'd come by coracle! Regards Ben (irishrover) Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Sat May 9 21:50:08 2009 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 18:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Calling Kent Message-ID: <50797.206.255.126.52.1241920208.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Kent I tried to reply to your e-mail directly[ att.net] and it keeps coming back?? Nick From kkinard at att.net Sat May 9 22:37:30 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:37:30 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Calling Kent In-Reply-To: <50797.206.255.126.52.1241920208.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> References: <50797.206.255.126.52.1241920208.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Message-ID: <4A063DEA.4020902@att.net> Interesting... kkinard at att.net flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote: > Kent I tried to reply to your e-mail directly[ att.net] and it keeps > coming back?? Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Sat May 9 23:55:17 2009 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 20:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Hoses Message-ID: <51885.206.255.126.52.1241927717.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> I'm looking for a USA source for hoses. I really need the heater hoses. Any ideas? Thanks Nick From Nash4447 at cs.com Sun May 10 00:02:27 2009 From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:02:27 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Hoses Message-ID: <bca.4a609f85.3737abd3@cs.com> Hi Nick I found that I could use standard heater hose ( the straight stuff sold by desired length). It will bend enough without kinking to work fine. Its just the usual 5/8 or 3/4 inch stuff depending on location. The upper and lower molded radiator hoses are available from NAPA. Let me know if you need the numbers. Glenn Los Angeles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Good luck with your SD1 - I sure like mine. Glenn Los Angeles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090510/8ebda1c2/attachment.html> From kr5927 at gmail.com Sun May 10 23:25:19 2009 From: kr5927 at gmail.com (Kevin Ross) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:25:19 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1971 Rover 2000 TC for Sale (Parts Car) In-Reply-To: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com> References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com> Posting photos of 1974 Rover TC 2000. Thanks. http://www.kwrcomputing.com/chivers/rover/ On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Kevin Ross <kr5927 at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi: > > I have a Rover 2000 TC for Sale... for parts. I am located in Burlington, > Ontario, Canada. Best Offer... > > Photos are available upon request. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Kevin. > > -- K. Ross kr5927 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090510/799ef7a6/attachment.html> From kr5927 at gmail.com Sun May 10 23:36:46 2009 From: kr5927 at gmail.com (Kevin Ross) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:36:46 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1971 Rover 2000 TC for Sale (Parts Car) In-Reply-To: <60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com> References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com> <60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <60cf9fc10905102036x392f99e7rdebfeb00b44831d6@mail.gmail.com> My apologies... it is a 1971 Rover TC 2000... http://www.kwrcomputing.com/chivers/rover/ On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Kevin Ross <kr5927 at gmail.com> wrote: > Posting photos of 1974 Rover TC 2000. Thanks. > > http://www.kwrcomputing.com/chivers/rover/ > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Kevin Ross <kr5927 at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> I have a Rover 2000 TC for Sale... for parts. I am located in Burlington, >> Ontario, Canada. Best Offer... >> >> Photos are available upon request. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Regards, >> Kevin. >> >> > > > -- > K. Ross > kr5927 at gmail.com > -- K. Ross kr5927 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090510/691f15cb/attachment.html> From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Mon May 11 07:17:54 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:17:54 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1971 Rover 2000 TC for Sale (PartsCar) References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com> <60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1844C7DC0E541CC3B0465395630@phx.gbl> Hi Kevin The car doesn't look too bad in the photos, just a pity we are too far apart or I'd be interested in it. The 71 is a series 2 and quite rare just over 200 were produced. It has a few nice features the early TC lacked. Same dash and gauges as the P6B and the spare wheel can be carried on the trunk lid. What condition and colour is the interior?, and what mileage? 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090511/c28b7013/attachment.html> From RoverP6 at gmx.de Mon May 11 10:44:21 2009 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:44:21 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com><60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com> <60cf9fc10905102036x392f99e7rdebfeb00b44831d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <B616547E90E74431A89DEBE5F658576E@rw> http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm Rudiger From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon May 11 11:17:04 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:17:04 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate In-Reply-To: <B616547E90E74431A89DEBE5F658576E@rw> References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com><60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com><60cf9fc10905102036x392f99e7rdebfeb00b44831d6@mail.gmail.com> <B616547E90E74431A89DEBE5F658576E@rw> Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A02033B06@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> Interesting. It is a pity he did not manage to save both ones, but... Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de Inviato: luned? 11 maggio 2009 16.44 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm Rudiger _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From JYX95K at aol.com Mon May 11 11:39:44 2009 From: JYX95K at aol.com (JYX95K at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:39:44 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate Message-ID: <cd2.519bc94c.3739a0c0@aol.com> In a message dated 11/05/2009 15:45:28 GMT Standard Time, RoverP6 at gmx.de writes: http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm Kind of criminal to be breaking a 2000 estate - I've only ever seen one and it was derelict! Cheers Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090511/bf7691ee/attachment.html> From RoverP6 at gmx.de Mon May 11 11:47:00 2009 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:47:00 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate References: <cd2.519bc94c.3739a0c0@aol.com> Message-ID: <84B453B306AC49BFBE3F02F5B833F598@rw> Owner says: "Unfortunately it turned out to be horribly rotten." Rudiger -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: <JYX95K at aol.com> An: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2009 17:39 Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate > > In a message dated 11/05/2009 15:45:28 GMT Standard Time, > RoverP6 at gmx.de > writes: > > http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm > > > Kind of criminal to be breaking a 2000 estate - I've only ever seen > one and > it was derelict! > > Cheers > Nick > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From JYX95K at aol.com Mon May 11 11:49:52 2009 From: JYX95K at aol.com (JYX95K at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:49:52 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate Message-ID: <d51.4a5c90e4.3739a320@aol.com> In a message dated 11/05/2009 16:48:02 GMT Standard Time, RoverP6 at gmx.de writes: Owner says: "Unfortunately it turned out to be horribly rotten." 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090511/a39de5e3/attachment-0001.html> From rover1000 at hotmail.com Tue May 12 02:09:09 2009 From: rover1000 at hotmail.com (ikke nie) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 06:09:09 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate In-Reply-To: <84B453B306AC49BFBE3F02F5B833F598@rw> References: <cd2.519bc94c.3739a0c0@aol.com> <84B453B306AC49BFBE3F02F5B833F598@rw> Message-ID: <BAY111-W10BB6A22A5EF89EBB27BB6B2600@phx.gbl> Panelcraft offered the Estoura-conversion also on secondhand cars, so he's actually not doing anything "wrong" there I think it looks great and it's better the estate survives in this way then to be rotting away somewhere in a corner. you could have done the same with the derelict estate you saw Nick :-) Yves > From: RoverP6 at gmx.de > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:47:00 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 Estate > > > Owner says: "Unfortunately it turned out to be horribly rotten." > > Rudiger > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: <JYX95K at aol.com> > An: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2009 17:39 > Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 2000 Estate + P6 V8 = P6 3500 > Estate > > > > > > In a message dated 11/05/2009 15:45:28 GMT Standard Time, > > RoverP6 at gmx.de > > writes: > > > > http://www.roverp6.info/Fotos/VisitorGallery/Worsfold/Worsfold.htm > > > > > > Kind of criminal to be breaking a 2000 estate - I've only ever seen > > one and > > it was derelict! > > > > Cheers > > Nick > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Lentekriebels? 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Cheers Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090512/13930d16/attachment.html> From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Tue May 12 09:18:13 2009 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 06:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD 1 Hoses Message-ID: <58949.206.255.126.52.1242134293.squirrel@webmail.cablelynx.com> Thanks for the #'s Glenn. I pulled the engine and transmission from my driver last weekend. The Heater hoses coming through the firewall have a good bend in them. You have used striaght hose in that application? Nick Upper radiator hose is # 7715 Lower radiator hose is # 7602 From rovercar at comcast.net Tue May 12 16:39:21 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:39:21 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Re George's & Glen's 3500S in UK Message-ID: <4A09DE79.9080802@comcast.net> George Phelps & Rovernet, I found some papers and old titles for the 3500S that I bought in Wichita, Kansas from Bill Bruce. It had belonged to Tex Ax in Colorado before that. I sold it to George, and I believe George sold it to someone in the UK. If anyone can put me in touch with the present owner, he'd probably like to have these papers. The VIN is 43301329A and it's listed on the title as a 1970. Rudiger: Tobacco Leaf, tan/orangey ambla (sandalwood?), AC, tinted windows, tire carrier, NADA-spec, automatic, am radio Glen in PA PS I also have a good title for a junked 1980 NADA Rover 3500 SD1 that someone might be able to use as an "historical" document... From gharrower200 at gmail.com Tue May 12 17:41:13 2009 From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:41:13 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com> Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace in my P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a problem, but one of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too rounded for me to get off. This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers, obviously, but I'd like some advice about getting the old lug nut off, and I'll need some new ones if anyone has them to offer. Thanks, Gordon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090512/70af0d3f/attachment.html> From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 12 17:56:08 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:56:08 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com> References: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3E0D48A6-5290-4E6B-8216-0A58D2075878@inkspotco.com> Steel wheels or Roystyle? If steel wheel, then no problem on a replacement. As for getting it off, the first thing would be to find a cheap socket that fits real tight and hammer it on. Or you could try a cold chisel and try and loosen it that way. Yours Vern On 12-May-09, at 2:41 PM, Gordon Harrower wrote: > Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace > in my P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a > problem, but one of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too > rounded for me to get off. This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers, > obviously, but I'd like some advice about getting the old lug nut > off, and I'll need some new ones if anyone has them to offer. > > Thanks, Gordon. > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From kkinard at att.net Tue May 12 17:59:04 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:59:04 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com> References: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A09F128.7060408@att.net> Hi Gordon, How's it going? I have tons of lug nuts. The chrome ones are all a little rusty, some pretty good, though. What kind of wheels and what do the nuts look like. TC probably has Rostyles? Won't be back out to Medina until Friday or Monday. Roverly, Kent K. > Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace > in my P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a > problem, but one of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too rounded > for me to get off. This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers, > obviously, but I'd like some advice about getting the old lug nut off, > and I'll need some new ones if anyone has them to offer. > > Thanks, Gordon. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gharrower200 at gmail.com Tue May 12 18:08:01 2009 From: gharrower200 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:08:01 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC In-Reply-To: <4A09F128.7060408@att.net> References: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com> <4A09F128.7060408@att.net> Message-ID: <a8e2d8ce0905121508vd0d8127x8a59bbf3d0edc0de@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Gents. I have steel wheels, nothing fancy. The lug nuts are symmetrical, i.e. can be put on in either direction, are plain steel, not chrome, although I don't care what the new ones look like as long as they work. Gordon. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: > Hi Gordon, > How's it going? I have tons of lug nuts. The chrome ones are all a little > rusty, some pretty good, though. What kind of wheels and what do the nuts > look like. TC probably has Rostyles? Won't be back out to Medina until > Friday or Monday. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > >> Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace in my >> P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a problem, but one >> of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too rounded for me to get off. >> This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers, obviously, but I'd like some >> advice about getting the old lug nut off, and I'll need some new ones if >> anyone has them to offer. >> >> Thanks, Gordon. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The lug nuts are symmetrical, i.e. can be put on in either direction, are plain steel, not chrome, although I don't care what the new ones look like as long as they work. Gordon. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: Hi Gordon, How's it going? I have tons of lug nuts. The chrome ones are all a little rusty, some pretty good, though. What kind of wheels and what do the nuts look like. TC probably has Rostyles? Won't be back out to Medina until Friday or Monday. Roverly, Kent K. Today I got a flat tire in my 1968 TC, found that I'd left the brace in my P5, so had to call AAA. The guy changed the tire without a problem, but one of the lug nuts is on really tight and is too rounded for me to get off. This isn't a problem peculiar to Rovers, obviously, but I'd like some advice about getting the old lug nut off, and I'll need some new ones if anyone has them to offer. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.25/2109 - Release Date: 05/11/09 16:14:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090512/1edf0b2d/attachment-0001.html> From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Tue May 12 19:14:01 2009 From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! In-Reply-To: <0E5E1B8504B24EBEBE796A158AB7CF01@Giannis> Message-ID: <272808.28659.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I topped up the De dion Tube and gearbox, drained and refilled the rear drive,Greased nipples,And was about to top up the steering box, but it looked full?It was infact empty and what I saw was a rubbery blob in the neck,It fell in and I filled the steering box with 90 wt oil occassionallyMoving the steering back and forth! It has not lost any since and I am puzzled as to where the other oil went?I drove the car to get new tyres and took it for a 40 mile spin!The more I drove it the better it got, as if waking from its long sleep.It ran and handled great and easily kept up with freeway traffic.On my return I looked under the hood, which I might add was lifting at the rear hinges?a bit at freeway speeds? The carbs seem very loose, I know they are on rubber mounts but they seem very loose?And wobble at idle?I am getting this car ready for the 900+ mile vintage car rally called the California Melee in Sept!Cheers,Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090512/c182a11a/attachment.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Tue May 12 21:48:05 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:48:05 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos. In-Reply-To: <mailman.158.1242168367.13619.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.158.1242168367.13619.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W58E447417DA23CEE652F418E610@phx.gbl> The speedo on my Rover 2000 automatic failed the other day. There are multiple part numbers for speedos in the parts catalogue. Will a speedo from a manual Rover work in an automatic? Is there any difference in calibration or is the only difference the gear change markings? Would a speedo out of an early 3500 with the same BW35 box be accurate in a 2000 auto. I have a good collection of spare speedos, but not one for a 2000 automatic. James. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090512/0e44f200/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue May 12 22:23:58 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos. Message-ID: <696236.70055.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Have you determined that it is the mechanism inside the speedo instrument display or could it be: *broken Bowden cable between the transmission and the head *broken nylon part in the right-angled drive behind the instrument (I've had both go wrong at one time or another and the result is that the speedo display stopped working.) You didn't mention the year of your automatic. Round instruments? Ribbon instrument? Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Tue, 5/12/09, James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com> wrote: > From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos. > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Received: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:48 PM > > > > #yiv1572162728 .hmmessage P > { > margin:0px;padding:0px;} > #yiv1572162728 { > font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} > > > > The speedo on my Rover 2000 automatic failed the other day. > There are multiple part numbers for speedos in the parts > catalogue. Will a speedo from a manual Rover work in an > automatic? Is there any difference in calibration or is the > only difference the gear change markings? Would a speedo out > of an early 3500 with the same BW35 box be accurate in a > 2000 auto. I have a good collection of spare speedos, but > not one for a 2000 automatic. > > James. > > Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check > it out. > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From kkinard at att.net Tue May 12 23:33:52 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:33:52 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Stripped Lug Nut on TC In-Reply-To: <a8e2d8ce0905121508vd0d8127x8a59bbf3d0edc0de@mail.gmail.com> References: <a8e2d8ce0905121441u276131d9h51e2c812a9f8efb@mail.gmail.com> <4A09F128.7060408@att.net> <a8e2d8ce0905121508vd0d8127x8a59bbf3d0edc0de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0A3FA0.9000305@att.net> Gordon Harrower wrote: > Thanks Gents. I have steel wheels, nothing fancy. The lug nuts are > symmetrical, i.e. can be put on in either direction, are plain steel, > not chrome, although I don't care what the new ones look like as long > as they work. > > Gordon. OK. You just need one? It will be Monday or Tuesday but I'll put one in the mail. Roverly, Kent K. From kkinard at att.net Tue May 12 23:38:11 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:38:11 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos. In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W58E447417DA23CEE652F418E610@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.158.1242168367.13619.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W58E447417DA23CEE652F418E610@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4A0A40A3.7060804@att.net> Hi James, If we can determine that it is indeed the speedo unit and not the cable or the right angle drive, I have numerous speedo heads. I am unfamiliar with the markings of the shift points, so tell me what yours looks like. Some of mine are likely to be from automatics-source of most is unknown. Roverly, Kent K. From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed May 13 03:45:48 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:45:48 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! In-Reply-To: <272808.28659.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <272808.28659.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F2F90208A6B478BA49130E92CF3F356@Vista> The carbs wobble at idle, particularly 68 and earlier with HD series. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! I topped up the De dion Tube and gearbox, drained and refilled the rear drive,Greased nipples,And was about to top up the steering box, but it looked full?It was infact empty and what I saw was a rubbery blob in the neck,It fell in and I filled the steering box with 90 wt oil occassionallyMoving the steering back and forth! It has not lost any since and I am puzzled as to where the other oil went?I drove the car to get new tyres and took it for a 40 mile spin!The more I drove it the better it got, as if waking from its long sleep.It ran and handled great and easily kept up with freeway traffic.On my return I looked under the hood, which I might add was lifting at the rear hinges?a bit at freeway speeds? The carbs seem very loose, I know they are on rubber mounts but they seem very loose?And wobble at idle?I am getting this car ready for the 900+ mile vintage car rally called the California Melee in Sept!Cheers,Peter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090513/1840dc36/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed May 13 03:53:52 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:53:52 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos. In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W58E447417DA23CEE652F418E610@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.158.1242168367.13619.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W58E447417DA23CEE652F418E610@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <408957C772FB457EAC7364A82A792B1A@Vista> The shift points are the only difference between 2000 manual and automatic speedos. I am using an automatic speedo in my manual. The 3500 have a different ratio inside. I still need a BW35 drive for a 3500 one... PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: James Radcliffe To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000 speedos. The speedo on my Rover 2000 automatic failed the other day. There are multiple part numbers for speedos in the parts catalogue. Will a speedo from a manual Rover work in an automatic? Is there any difference in calibration or is the only difference the gear change markings? Would a speedo out of an early 3500 with the same BW35 box be accurate in a 2000 auto. I have a good collection of spare speedos, but not one for a 2000 automatic. James. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090513/363844bf/attachment-0001.html> From jan.tillberg at sqc.se Wed May 13 04:16:54 2009 From: jan.tillberg at sqc.se (jan.tillberg at sqc.se) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:16:54 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! In-Reply-To: <6F2F90208A6B478BA49130E92CF3F356@Vista> References: <272808.28659.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6F2F90208A6B478BA49130E92CF3F356@Vista> Message-ID: <9FC8CF7D57D41C4E8BFB9A74FAC2D4F3044FE9E3@mxmb44.eur.corp.vattenfall.com> The carbs shouldn't be very loose. Check the spring balancing the carbs for tension. Jan ________________________________ Fr?n: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] F?r Netspace Skickat: den 13 maj 2009 09:46 Till: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. ?mne: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! The carbs wobble at idle, particularly 68 and earlier with HD series. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! I topped up the De dion Tube and gearbox, drained and refilled the rear drive, Greased nipples, And was about to top up the steering box, but it looked full? It was infact empty and what I saw was a rubbery blob in the neck, It fell in and I filled the steering box with 90 wt oil occassionally Moving the steering back and forth! It has not lost any since and I am puzzled as to where the other oil went? I drove the car to get new tyres and took it for a 40 mile spin! The more I drove it the better it got, as if waking from its long sleep. It ran and handled great and easily kept up with freeway traffic. On my return I looked under the hood, which I might add was lifting at the rear hinges? a bit at freeway speeds? The carbs seem very loose, I know they are on rubber mounts but they seem very loose? And wobble at idle? I am getting this car ready for the 900+ mile vintage car rally called the California Melee in Sept! Cheers,Peter ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090513/fe9ae0ac/attachment.html> From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 11:40:02 2009 From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! In-Reply-To: <9FC8CF7D57D41C4E8BFB9A74FAC2D4F3044FE9E3@mxmb44.eur.corp.vattenfall.com> Message-ID: <62694.70950.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the info! --- On Wed, 5/13/09, jan.tillberg at sqc.se <jan.tillberg at sqc.se> wrote: From: jan.tillberg at sqc.se <jan.tillberg at sqc.se> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 1:16 AM ? The?carbs?shouldn't?be?very?loose.?Check?the?spring?balancing?the?carbs?for?tension. ? Jan Fr?n: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] F?r Netspace Skickat: den 13 maj 2009 09:46 Till: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. ?mne: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! The carbs wobble at idle, particularly 68 and earlier with HD series. ? PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1967 LHD TC P6 story continues! I topped up the De dion Tube and gearbox, drained and refilled the rear drive,Greased nipples,And was about to top up the steering box, but it looked full?It was infact empty and what I saw was a rubbery blob in the neck,It fell in and I filled the steering box with 90 wt oil occassionallyMoving the steering back and forth! It has not lost any since and I am puzzled as to where the other oil went?I drove the car to get new tyres and took it for a 40 mile spin!The more I drove it the better it got, as if waking from its long sleep.It ran and handled great and easily kept up with freeway traffic.On my return I looked under the hood, which I might add was lifting at the rear hinges?a bit at freeway speeds? The carbs seem very loose, I know they are on rubber mounts but they seem very loose?And wobble at idle?I am getting this car ready for the 900+ mile vintage car rally called the California Melee in Sept!Cheers,Peter _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/_______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Chances are the sending unit is stuck Glenn Los Angeles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090514/22ae9a31/attachment.html> From anders at xoz.dk Thu May 14 01:52:53 2009 From: anders at xoz.dk (Anders Hedelund) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:52:53 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] sd1 oil pressure reading 60psi In-Reply-To: <805b4e740905131647s2b43e160v41827fd2fab939ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <805b4e740905131647s2b43e160v41827fd2fab939ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0BB1B5.7010704@xoz.dk> At least on SOME SD1s the sending unit is not just that - it is an electric switch which controls the gas supply as well: No oil pressure, no gas. So if you remove a wire, the electric petrol/gas pump will stop working. ..Anders, Copenhagen, Denmark From roverman2 at verizon.net Thu May 14 10:02:40 2009 From: roverman2 at verizon.net (Dermot Harvey) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:02:40 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] sd1 oil pressure reading 60psi In-Reply-To: <805b4e740905131647s2b43e160v41827fd2fab939ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <805b4e740905131647s2b43e160v41827fd2fab939ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <33853F33-BE12-446C-8141-9DA47296BCBC@verizon.net> Check the pressure relief valve in the oil pump. It may be sticking thus causing the oil pressure to be too high. Dermot Harvey Spectral Kinetics On May 13, 2009, at 7:47 PM, d gruber wrote: > Hello, > My sd1 is running great but the oil pressure gauge jumps to 60 > immediately and never declines. I am wondering if anyone would know > if I have a falty system on my dash or if the sending unit on the pump > is bad? > > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Fri May 15 23:38:47 2009 From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued Message-ID: <220438.995.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello fellow Roverers, sorry I only emailed you first time?Eric! ? Its running great but! ? I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to?1st gear,?but easier if you go from?2nd to 1st, first? ? The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd?3rd 4th are easy? ? No whines from the gear box but! ? It also pops out of reverse sometimes,?if you dont go slow and hold it in? ? Any advice appreciated! ? Peter H ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090515/42c3fd53/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Fri May 15 23:48:40 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 13:48:40 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued In-Reply-To: <220438.995.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <220438.995.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <B8A27803CB11423A8A8CB2D4D92C5B5D@Vista> Sounds like gear lever selector adjustment. There is no easy way... The selector is at the top of the back of the gearbox and has a 7/16 pinch bolt. Slack it, move it forward on shaft (easiest way is to move the gearknob back a bit) and tighten again. That should fix reverse. Sticky first may not be curable without a box rebuild. Mine is sticky too on the SC but not on my TC. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued Hello fellow Roverers, sorry I only emailed you first time Eric! Its running great but! I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to 1st gear, but easier if you go from 2nd to 1st, first? The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd 3rd 4th are easy? No whines from the gear box but! It also pops out of reverse sometimes, if you dont go slow and hold it in? Any advice appreciated! 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That should fix reverse. Sticky first may not be curable without a box rebuild.? Mine is sticky too on the SC but not on my TC. ? PVS ? ----- Original Message ----- From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued Hello fellow Roverers, sorry I only emailed you first time?Eric! ? Its running great but! ? I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to?1st gear,?but easier if you go from?2nd to 1st, first? ? The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd?3rd 4th are easy? ? No whines from the gear box but! ? It also pops out of reverse sometimes,?if you dont go slow and hold it in? ? Any advice appreciated! ? Peter H ? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/_______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090515/e51e532a/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 16 00:20:55 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:20:55 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued In-Reply-To: <630844.35925.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <630844.35925.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <985A9EF34A96409C8CD9E1FDE88931F0@Vista> Oops move the gearknob forward to fix reverse engagement... ----- Original Message ----- From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued Wow! thanks! --- On Fri, 5/15/09, Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> wrote: From: Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 8:48 PM Sounds like gear lever selector adjustment. There is no easy way... The selector is at the top of the back of the gearbox and has a 7/16 pinch bolt. Slack it, move it forward on shaft (easiest way is to move the gearknob back a bit) and tighten again. That should fix reverse. Sticky first may not be curable without a box rebuild. Mine is sticky too on the SC but not on my TC. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued Hello fellow Roverers, sorry I only emailed you first time Eric! Its running great but! I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to 1st gear, but easier if you go from 2nd to 1st, first? The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd 3rd 4th are easy? No whines from the gear box but! It also pops out of reverse sometimes, if you dont go slow and hold it in? Any advice appreciated! Peter H -------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Fri, 5/15/09, pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net <pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net <pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Received: Friday, May 15, 2009, 8:38 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello fellow Roverers, sorry I only emailed you first > time?Eric! > ? > Its running great but! > ? > I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its > hard to get in to?1st gear,?but easier if you go > from?2nd to 1st, first? > ? > The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd?3rd 4th are > easy? > ? > No whines from the gear box but! > ? > It also pops out of reverse sometimes,?if you > dont go slow and hold it in? > ? > Any advice appreciated! > ? > Peter H > > > ? > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From petesgarage04 at yahoo.com Fri May 15 23:35:38 2009 From: petesgarage04 at yahoo.com (Pete Holbrook) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Re: 67 TC continued Message-ID: <210083.3724.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello fellow Roverers, sorry Eric! ? Its running great but! ? I am still in the test drive mode and have noticed its hard to get in to?1st gear,?but easier if you go from?2nd to 1st, first? ? The H pattern seems a bit sloppy! 2nd?3rd 4th are easy? ? No whines from the gear box but! ? It also pops out of reverse sometimes,?if you dont go slow and hold it in? ? Any advice appreciated! ? Peter H ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090516/8008cafa/attachment.html> From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Sat May 16 13:27:48 2009 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] gear lever adj In-Reply-To: <150717.62977.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <518174.49054.qm@web180502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I'd like to recommend using a synthetic transmission oil as well. I put in BG Synchro Shift and it made my P5 shift very smooth. roland --- On Sat, 5/16/09, pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net <pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net <pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] gear lever adj To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 10:10 AM Thanks all,?for the great tips I will undertake this procedure soon! Cheers, Peter_______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net Sat May 16 17:10:25 2009 From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net (pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] gear lever adj In-Reply-To: <518174.49054.qm@web180502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <854296.6000.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Roland --- On Sat, 5/16/09, roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> wrote: From: roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] gear lever adj To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 10:27 AM I'd like to recommend using a synthetic transmission oil as well. I put in BG Synchro Shift and it made my P5 shift very smooth. roland --- On Sat, 5/16/09, pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net <pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net <pmholbrook at sbcglobal.net> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] gear lever adj To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 10:10 AM Thanks all,?for the great tips I will undertake this procedure soon! 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Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca From travellak1 at netzero.net Tue May 19 22:04:29 2009 From: travellak1 at netzero.net (Linus Tremaine) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 02:04:29 GMT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure Message-ID: <20090519.190429.27440.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> All, Was at the local used book store and found a (roughly) 12"x15" 6-8 page sales brochure. It is for the rover 90 and 100 sedans ( i think) They wanted ten bux for it, in pretty good shape. anyone interested? L ____________________________________________________________ Reduce your expense. Click here to compare prices on point of sales sytems. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxPrmOxd9Ajtm4BF9lLrpxhSeQ57658HY7Z42moNRBLVI0J03bJNsc/ From fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us Tue May 19 23:27:59 2009 From: fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us (fmcardle at suffolk.lib.ny.us) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure In-Reply-To: <20090519.190429.27440.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> References: <20090519.190429.27440.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <85971539147cca209ca4353c99a7b187.squirrel@mail.suffolk.lib.ny.us> Hi Linus, I'm Pete McArdle, and I would be very interested in the sales brochure. Please forward to me either the info as to where I might buy the brochure or your address with some info as to what you would want to complete the transaction and send the brochure on to me. Thanks so much for the info , hope to hear form you soon. Pete McArdle PO Box 2598 Sag Harbor NY 11963 631 725 3921 PS , Didn't we do some business a few years ago. I'm the fellow in NY that has the NOS Rover parts and have been in the Rover business in various forms since the 50s. > All, > Was at the local used book store and found a (roughly) 12"x15" 6-8 page > sales brochure. It is for the rover 90 and 100 sedans ( i think) > > They wanted ten bux for it, in pretty good shape. > > anyone interested? > > L > > ____________________________________________________________ > Reduce your expense. Click here to compare prices on point of sales > sytems. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxPrmOxd9Ajtm4BF9lLrpxhSeQ57658HY7Z42moNRBLVI0J03bJNsc/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From travellak1 at netzero.net Wed May 20 01:55:54 2009 From: travellak1 at netzero.net (Linus Tremaine) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 05:55:54 GMT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure Message-ID: <20090519.225554.23101.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Pete, yes. We traded a side cover gasket for a valve cover gasket. I have a land rover with the rover p4 110 engine. Ill go back and get that brochure and we'll talk Linus ____________________________________________________________ Earn your degree and open new doors. Click to browse flexible online degree programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxVwOtoINRSLEQXC28ugDXZZFesGHHZa9lXZC1WbgLTCUnuoeYMnte/ From Paul.Smith at transend.com.au Wed May 20 01:59:37 2009 From: Paul.Smith at transend.com.au (Paul Smith) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:59:37 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure In-Reply-To: <20090519.225554.23101.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20090519.225554.23101.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C726A@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> You mean with the Weslake head? Not a 95 motor? -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Linus Tremaine Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 3:56 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure Pete, yes. We traded a side cover gasket for a valve cover gasket. I have a land rover with the rover p4 110 engine. Ill go back and get that brochure and we'll talk Linus ____________________________________________________________ Earn your degree and open new doors. 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Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: mercoled? 20 maggio 2009 3.48 A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 manual trans. for sale in Calif. Hi, We have a new listing for a 5 speed SD1 for sale in Rodondo Beach, Calif., USA. Check out the details and photos from: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Wed May 20 06:43:47 2009 From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:43:47 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 manual trans. for sale in Calif. In-Reply-To: <451923.31107.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <451923.31107.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <kln715p8magq1bf8tthvlbmm4q76pe8hio@4ax.com> On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:47:45 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >Hi, >We have a new listing for a 5 speed SD1 for sale in Rodondo Beach, Calif., USA. Check out the details and photos from: Nice Vitesse wheels too. Or were they standard in US? Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ From kkinard at att.net Wed May 20 07:23:21 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:23:21 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 manual trans. for sale in Calif. In-Reply-To: <kln715p8magq1bf8tthvlbmm4q76pe8hio@4ax.com> References: <451923.31107.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <kln715p8magq1bf8tthvlbmm4q76pe8hio@4ax.com> Message-ID: <4A13E829.2040004@att.net> Not available at all in the US. They must have been added later. -Kent K. Peter Huttemeier wrote: > On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:47:45 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > > >> Hi, >> We have a new listing for a 5 speed SD1 for sale in Rodondo Beach, Calif., USA. Check out the details and photos from: >> > > Nice Vitesse wheels too. Or were they standard in US? > > > Cheers, > > Peter Huttemeier > Webmaster > Rover Car Club of Australia Inc > http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From kkinard at att.net Wed May 20 07:28:10 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:28:10 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure In-Reply-To: <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C726A@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> References: <20090519.225554.23101.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> <47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C726A@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> Message-ID: <4A13E94A.1000402@att.net> Hi Linus and Paul, I thought it was you and I that traded gaskets. I did that with somebody. Paul, the 109 station wagon was available in the US with the P4 110 engine. I have, or used to have, the parts catalogue supplement for that model. Roverly, Kent K. Paul Smith wrote: > You mean with the Weslake head? > Not a 95 motor? > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Linus Tremaine > Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 3:56 PM > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure > > Pete, > yes. We traded a side cover gasket for a valve cover gasket. I have a land rover with the rover p4 110 engine. > > Ill go back and get that brochure and we'll talk > > Linus > From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed May 20 07:55:33 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:55:33 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure In-Reply-To: <4A13E94A.1000402@att.net> References: <20090519.225554.23101.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com><47654BA04BB9074C8BC66D8584E17925355B2C726A@EXCHANGE.ad.transend.com.au> <4A13E94A.1000402@att.net> Message-ID: <61B76E07362941299AB67F9C6464F1D0@Vista> It wasn't here so far as I know. The 95 motor was it. With the series 3 the V8 was installed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure > Hi Linus and Paul, > I thought it was you and I that traded gaskets. I did that with somebody. > > Paul, the 109 station wagon was available in the US with the P4 110 > engine. I have, or used to have, the parts catalogue supplement for that > model. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > Paul Smith wrote: >> You mean with the Weslake head? >> Not a 95 motor? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >> On Behalf Of Linus Tremaine >> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 3:56 PM >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure >> >> Pete, >> yes. We traded a side cover gasket for a valve cover gasket. I have a >> land rover with the rover p4 110 engine. >> >> Ill go back and get that brochure and we'll talk >> >> Linus >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From travellak1 at netzero.net Wed May 20 10:43:10 2009 From: travellak1 at netzero.net (Linus Tremaine) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:43:10 GMT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] rover sedan sales brochure Message-ID: <20090520.074310.26829.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Paul, yes, the weslake head. It was put in 811 land rovers destined for the north american market. Linus ____________________________________________________________ Be your own boss. Click here for information on starting your own business. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxPtb7tVFELBeep9CWySTs9SoHSAMDC59vdU7UmUyx73oQFlMSUAqU/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu May 21 12:34:20 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for sale Message-ID: <33535.83183.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We have been asked to list some Land Rover manuals and a Range Rover reference on our website. If you also have a Land Rover or Range Rover and think it might be worth a look, you are invited to visit this page: http://www.roverclub.ca/bynonmembers.htm Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From danenberg123 at yahoo.com Thu May 21 13:17:01 2009 From: danenberg123 at yahoo.com (Bo Danenberger) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for sale Message-ID: <12736.27283.qm@web33504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello???? I have some 3 litre manuals for sale and would like to list them on the site for all. I have (1) a parts book?and (2) a workshop manual for a MK I and the same for a MK III. The MK III are still in the original shipping/selling sleaves. Both sets are nice. Thank?you. Bo Danenberger?......central Illinois --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote: From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for sale To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 11:34 AM We have been asked to list some Land Rover manuals and a Range Rover reference on our website. If you also have a Land Rover or Range Rover and think it might be worth a look, you are invited to visit this page: http://www.roverclub.ca/bynonmembers.htm Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website:? http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca ? ? ? __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Since his address is hotlinked on our website, I guess he wouldn't mind me posting his contact here: mbtait at shaw.ca Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Bo Danenberger <danenberg123 at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for sale > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 10:17 AM > Hello???? I > have some 3 litre manuals for sale and would like to list > them on the site for all. > I have (1) a parts book?and (2) a workshop manual > for a MK I and the same for a MK III. > The MK III are still in the original shipping/selling > sleaves. Both sets are nice. > Thank?you. Bo Danenberger?......central > Illinois > > --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Eric Russell > <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Land Rover books for > sale > To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 11:34 AM > > > > We have been asked to list some Land Rover manuals and a > Range Rover reference on our website. > If you also have a Land Rover or Range Rover and think it > might be worth a look, you are invited to visit this page: > > http://www.roverclub.ca/bynonmembers.htm > > Eric > > > Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada > Website:? http://www.roverclub.ca/ > Webmaster of a variety of sites from: > http://www.websrus.ca > > > ? ? ? > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and > bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Fri May 22 10:09:42 2009 From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:09:42 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential Message-ID: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of ABC gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my rebuild I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself, but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on the S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping the half shaft and taking it out". I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S From vern at inkspotco.com Fri May 22 10:42:07 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:42:07 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <6FEB18D8-C563-41B2-B4E9-AD4D4A4F2B40@inkspotco.com> The stub axle is part of the diff. It is the flange that the half shaft bolts to. To remove, you have to disconnect the halfshaft, the handbrake linkage and either free the caliper from the stub axle carrier or disconnect the hose or hoses (depending on LH or RH) from the caliper. Four bolts hold the stub axle carrier to the diff. The stub axle failure Ruth is talking about, by the way, is not restricted to V8 cars, it happened quite often with the 4 cylinder cars that were driven vigorously. The very first P6 I had dealing with broke both stub axles at the same time, funnily enough on a last drive before the insurance ran out at midnight, while doing a last donut in a parking lot. Yours Vern On 22-May-09, at 7:09 AM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE wrote: > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth > of ABC > gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my > rebuild I > replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential > itself, but > directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history > on the S > is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out > of the > garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then > put it > drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is > the drive > side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into the > higher > miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next > thing you > know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have a > good feel > or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping the > half shaft > and taking it out". > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same > thing as > the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about > what I'm > looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gbrovers at aol.com Fri May 22 11:06:04 2009 From: gbrovers at aol.com (Bill Davis) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:06:04 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] looking for head, intake & carbs Message-ID: <032E1A4C-4135-4F03-B206-81259F82FA3D@aol.com> Group I am looking for a cylinder head, intake manifold and dual carb set up for a 105, 105S or 105R. All of the miscellaneous bits would be nice too. Contact me off line or on if you can help. Bill From lafbery at telus.net Fri May 22 11:48:15 2009 From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:48:15 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> Hi Lance, If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, this is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different cars, if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads of the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the threads. Barry > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of ABC > gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my rebuild > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself, > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on the > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is > the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping > the half shaft and taking it out". > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing > as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: 05/21/09 06:22:00 From Nash4447 at cs.com Fri May 22 14:36:52 2009 From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover heads Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4@cs.com> Fellas I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should anyone be interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of course. The valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals - no big deal. $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground shipping cost would not be obscene. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/8e354a40/attachment.html> From geffandjulie at comcast.net Fri May 22 16:18:08 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential In-Reply-To: <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> Message-ID: <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the loose play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate it. I have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential Hi Lance, If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, this is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different cars, if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads of the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the threads. Barry > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of ABC > gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my rebuild > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself, > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on the > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is > the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping > the half shaft and taking it out". > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing > as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: 05/21/09 06:22:00 _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovercar at comcast.net Fri May 22 16:50:03 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential In-Reply-To: <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> Message-ID: <4A170FFB.1040208@comcast.net> Geff McCarthy wrote: > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the loose > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate it. I > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > Geff, I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker down to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of hands is always useful when you get into that area around the P6 differential... Glen > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > Hi Lance, > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, this > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different cars, > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads of > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the threads. > > Barry > > > >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of ABC >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my rebuild >> > > >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself, >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on the >> > > >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff is >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get into >> > > >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and next >> > > >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and have >> > > >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping >> the half shaft and taking it out". >> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >> >> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: 05/21/09 > 06:22:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/bbd4d53b/attachment.html> From vern at inkspotco.com Fri May 22 17:04:15 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential In-Reply-To: <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> Message-ID: <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble, other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools, push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one. Yours Vern On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from > the loose > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I > understand > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will > eliminate it. I > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > ] On > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > Hi Lance, > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I > suggest you > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the > side that > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come > loose, this > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on > different cars, > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks > it and > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the > heads of > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the > threads. > > Barry > > >> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth >> of ABC >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >> rebuild > >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >> itself, >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history >> on the > >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing >> out of >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >> then >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the >> diff is >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you >> get into > >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear >> and next > >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set >> and have > >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >> dropping >> the half shaft and taking it out". >> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >> thing >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification >> about >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >> >> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: > 05/21/09 > 06:22:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri May 22 17:15:24 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one of the half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to consider. That happened with me. Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote: > From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM > My "new" diff also clunks, but only > when put into gear. It is from the loose > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. > If I understand > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly > will eliminate it. I > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in > Oregon. > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking > differential > > Hi Lance, > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you > have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and > remove the side that > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have > come loose, this > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me > on different cars, > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing > and cracks it and > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by > drilling the heads of > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread > locker on the threads. > > Barry > > > > > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some > recommendations Ruth of ABC > > gave me in sorting out my differential > 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild > > > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which > we checked for > > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the > differential itself, > > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > > > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem > from the history on the > > > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes > when backing out of > > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a > stop when they then > > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What > happens in the diff is > > the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the > torque and once you get into > > > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the > drive gear and next > > > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go > the left set and have > > > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It > literally means dropping > > the half shaft and taking it out". > > > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub > axle"????Is this the same thing > > as the "half shaft"?.???If someone > could give me a clarification about > > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as > digest mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release > Date: 05/21/09 > 06:22:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Fri May 22 19:25:10 2009 From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:25:10 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1243026921.13666.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.13.1243026921.13666.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <COL111-DS6FAD51EC8EF8E476A3AB683560@phx.gbl> Thanks to all who replied about my differential. I've just gotten it out without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had replaced all of the zercs on the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None are frozen and none appear to have too much play. None of the crown wheel bolts are loose. Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the next move is to go with having the differential rebuilt. I will be contacting Ruth at ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of contacts/sources for a differential rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential. Thanks again for all of the help. Lance La Certe, Psy.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to > which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover heads (Nash4447 at cs.com) > 2. Re: Clunking differential (Geff McCarthy) > 3. Re: Clunking differential (Glen Wilson) > 4. Re: Clunking differential (Vern Klukas) > 5. Re: Clunking differential (Eric Russell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT > From: Nash4447 at cs.com > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover > heads > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4 at cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Fellas > > I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should anyone be > interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of course. The > valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals - no > big > deal. > > $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los > Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground shipping > cost > would not be obscene. > > Glenn > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/8e354a40/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700 > From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the > loose > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate it. > I > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > Hi Lance, > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, > this > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different > cars, > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads > of > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the > threads. > > Barry > > > > > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of > > ABC > > gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my > > rebuild > > > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for > > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself, > > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > > > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on > > the > > > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of > > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then > > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff > > is > > the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get > > into > > > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and > > next > > > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and > > have > > > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping > > the half shaft and taking it out". > > > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing > > as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about > > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: 05/21/09 > 06:22:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400 > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4A170FFB.1040208 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Geff McCarthy wrote: > > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the > > loose > > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I > > understand > > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate > > it. I > > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. > > > > AvMedSafe > > Geff and Julie McCarthy > > 677 NW Melinda Ave > > Portland OR 97210 > > 503-241-8468 > > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > > Geff, > > I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker down > to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of hands is > always useful when you get into that area around the P6 differential... > > Glen > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > > On > > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > > > Hi Lance, > > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest > > you > > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side > > that > > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, > > this > > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different > > cars, > > > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it > > and > > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the > > heads of > > > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the > > threads. > > > > Barry > > > > > > > >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of > >> ABC > >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my > >> rebuild > >> > > > > > >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for > >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential > >> itself, > >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > >> > >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on > >> the > >> > > > > > >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of > >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they > >> then > >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff > >> is > >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get > >> into > >> > > > > > >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and > >> next > >> > > > > > >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and > >> have > >> > > > > > >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means > >> dropping > >> the half shaft and taking it out". > >> > >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same > >> thing > >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about > >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > >> > >> > >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rovernet mailing list > >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > >> no-mail: > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: > > 05/21/09 > > 06:22:00 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/bbd4d53b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700 > From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340 at inkspotco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My > experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble, > other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and > destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you > have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows > three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools, > push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one. > > Yours > Vern > On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > > > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from > > the loose > > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I > > understand > > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will > > eliminate it. I > > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. > > > > AvMedSafe > > Geff and Julie McCarthy > > 677 NW Melinda Ave > > Portland OR 97210 > > 503-241-8468 > > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > > ] On > > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > > > Hi Lance, > > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I > > suggest you > > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the > > side that > > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come > > loose, this > > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on > > different cars, > > > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks > > it and > > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the > > heads of > > > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the > > threads. > > > > Barry > > > > > >> > >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth > >> of ABC > >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my > >> rebuild > > > >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for > >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential > >> itself, > >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > >> > >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history > >> on the > > > >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing > >> out of > >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they > >> then > >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the > >> diff is > >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you > >> get into > > > >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear > >> and next > > > >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set > >> and have > > > >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means > >> dropping > >> the half shaft and taking it out". > >> > >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same > >> thing > >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification > >> about > >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > >> > >> > >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rovernet mailing list > >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > >> no-mail: > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: > > 05/21/09 > > 06:22:00 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > > mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > > mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT) > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm at web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one of the > half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to consider. > That happened with me. > > Eric > > > Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada > Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ > Webmaster of a variety of sites from: > http://www.websrus.ca > > > --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote: > > > From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" > > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM > > My "new" diff also clunks, but only > > when put into gear. It is from the loose > > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. > > If I understand > > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly > > will eliminate it. I > > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in > > Oregon. > > > > AvMedSafe > > Geff and Julie McCarthy > > 677 NW Melinda Ave > > Portland OR 97210 > > 503-241-8468 > > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > > On > > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking > > differential > > > > Hi Lance, > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you > > have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you > > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and > > remove the side that > > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have > > come loose, this > > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me > > on different cars, > > > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing > > and cracks it and > > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by > > drilling the heads of > > > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread > > locker on the threads. > > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some > > recommendations Ruth of ABC > > > gave me in sorting out my differential > > 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild > > > > > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which > > we checked for > > > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the > > differential itself, > > > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > > > > > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem > > from the history on the > > > > > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes > > when backing out of > > > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a > > stop when they then > > > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What > > happens in the diff is > > > the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the > > torque and once you get into > > > > > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the > > drive gear and next > > > > > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go > > the left set and have > > > > > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It > > literally means dropping > > > the half shaft and taking it out". > > > > > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub > > axle"????Is this the same thing > > > as the "half shaft"?.???If someone > > could give me a clarification about > > > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rovernet mailing list > > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > > Here is where you can change your settings such as > > digest mode or no-mail: > > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release > > Date: 05/21/09 > > 06:22:00 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > > mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > > mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! 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Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 > **************************************** > From vern at inkspotco.com Fri May 22 22:13:23 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:13:23 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS6FAD51EC8EF8E476A3AB683560@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.13.1243026921.13666.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <COL111-DS6FAD51EC8EF8E476A3AB683560@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <097876B4-9E12-4B9A-AD14-2EFD143CD955@inkspotco.com> The next thing to do is take the crown wheel carrier and set it on the bench. Insert stub axles back into the crown wheel carrier and rotate them against each see how much freeplay there is. Ideally there should be all but none, 5 degrees is acceptable but about where clunking starts (5 degrees at the output in 15-20 degrees at the prop shaft). If is is sloppy, then the problem lies in the gears with in the carrier. Yours Vern On 22-May-09, at 4:25 PM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE wrote: > Thanks to all who replied about my differential. I've just gotten > it out > without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had replaced all of the > zercs on > the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None are frozen and none > appear to > have too much play. None of the crown wheel bolts are loose. > > Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the next > move is > to go with having the differential rebuilt. I will be contacting > Ruth at > ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of contacts/sources for a > differential > rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential. > > Thanks again for all of the help. > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:15 PM > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 > > >> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to >> rovernet at rovernet.ca >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> rovernet-request at rovernet.ca >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." >> >> >> Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the >> topic to >> which you are referring. >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover heads (Nash4447 at cs.com) >> 2. Re: Clunking differential (Geff McCarthy) >> 3. Re: Clunking differential (Glen Wilson) >> 4. Re: Clunking differential (Vern Klukas) >> 5. Re: Clunking differential (Eric Russell) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT >> From: Nash4447 at cs.com >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover >> heads >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4 at cs.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> Fellas >> >> I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should >> anyone be >> interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of >> course. The >> valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals >> - no >> big >> deal. >> >> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los >> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground >> shipping >> cost >> would not be obscene. >> >> Glenn >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/8e354a40/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700 >> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from >> the >> loose >> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I >> understand >> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will >> eliminate it. >> I >> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. >> >> AvMedSafe >> Geff and Julie McCarthy >> 677 NW Melinda Ave >> Portland OR 97210 >> 503-241-8468 >> 503-799-3809 mobile >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> ] >> On >> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> >> Hi Lance, >> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >> suggest you >> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the >> side that >> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come >> loose, >> this >> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on >> different >> cars, >> >> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks >> it and >> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the >> heads >> of >> >> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the >> threads. >> >> Barry >> >> >>> >>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth >>> of >>> ABC >>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >>> rebuild >> >>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for >>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >>> itself, >>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >>> >>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the >>> history on >>> the >> >>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing >>> out of >>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when >>> they then >>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the >>> diff >>> is >>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you >>> get >>> into >> >>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear >>> and >>> next >> >>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set >>> and >>> have >> >>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >>> dropping >>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>> >>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >>> thing >>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification >>> about >>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >>> >>> >>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >> 05/21/09 >> 06:22:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400 >> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <4A170FFB.1040208 at comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" >> >> Geff McCarthy wrote: >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from >>> the >>> loose >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I >>> understand >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will >>> eliminate >>> it. I >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. >>> >>> AvMedSafe >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>> Portland OR 97210 >>> 503-241-8468 >>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>> >> >> Geff, >> >> I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker >> down >> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of >> hands is >> always useful when you get into that area around the P6 >> differential... >> >> Glen >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>> ] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >>> >>> Hi Lance, >>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >>> suggest >>> you >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the >>> side >>> that >>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come >>> loose, >>> this >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on >>> different >>> cars, >>> >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and >>> cracks it >>> and >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the >>> heads of >>> >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the >>> threads. >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations >>>> Ruth of >>>> ABC >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >>>> rebuild >>>> >>> >>> >>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked >>>> for >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >>>> itself, >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >>>> >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the >>>> history on >>>> the >>>> >>> >>> >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing >>>> out of >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >>>> then >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the >>>> diff >>>> is >>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you >>>> get >>>> into >>>> >>> >>> >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear >>>> and >>>> next >>>> >>> >>> >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set >>>> and >>>> have >>>> >>> >>> >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >>>> dropping >>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>> >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >>>> thing >>>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification >>>> about >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>>> no-mail: >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >>> 05/21/09 >>> 06:22:00 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> >>> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/bbd4d53b/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700 >> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340 at inkspotco.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My >> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble, >> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and >> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you >> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows >> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools, >> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one. >> >> Yours >> Vern >> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: >> >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from >>> the loose >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I >>> understand >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will >>> eliminate it. I >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. >>> >>> AvMedSafe >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>> Portland OR 97210 >>> 503-241-8468 >>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>> ] On >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >>> >>> Hi Lance, >>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >>> suggest you >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the >>> side that >>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come >>> loose, this >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on >>> different cars, >>> >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks >>> it and >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the >>> heads of >>> >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the >>> threads. >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth >>>> of ABC >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >>>> rebuild >>> >>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked >>>> for >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >>>> itself, >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >>>> >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history >>>> on the >>> >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing >>>> out of >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >>>> then >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the >>>> diff is >>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you >>>> get into >>> >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear >>>> and next >>> >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set >>>> and have >>> >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >>>> dropping >>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>> >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >>>> thing >>>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification >>>> about >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>>> no-mail: >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >>> 05/21/09 >>> 06:22:00 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no- >>> mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no- >>> mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm at web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> >> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one >> of the >> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to >> consider. >> That happened with me. >> >> Eric >> >> >> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada >> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ >> Webmaster of a variety of sites from: >> http://www.websrus.ca >> >> >> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >>> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" >>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only >>> when put into gear. It is from the loose >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. >>> If I understand >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly >>> will eliminate it. I >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in >>> Oregon. >>> >>> AvMedSafe >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>> Portland OR 97210 >>> 503-241-8468 >>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >>> differential >>> >>> Hi Lance, >>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you >>> have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and >>> remove the side that >>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have >>> come loose, this >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me >>> on different cars, >>> >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing >>> and cracks it and >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by >>> drilling the heads of >>> >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread >>> locker on the threads. >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some >>> recommendations Ruth of ABC >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential >>> 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild >>> >>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which >>> we checked for >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the >>> differential itself, >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >>>> >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem >>> from the history on the >>> >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes >>> when backing out of >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a >>> stop when they then >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What >>> happens in the diff is >>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the >>> torque and once you get into >>> >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the >>> drive gear and next >>> >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go >>> the left set and have >>> >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It >>> literally means dropping >>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>> >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >>> axle"????Is this the same thing >>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If someone >>> could give me a clarification about >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? 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Download it now >> http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 >> **************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri May 22 22:23:11 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help Message-ID: <630682.25142.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> PS. I know where gears are available :-) Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote: > From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:13 PM > The next thing to do is take the > crown wheel carrier and set it on the bench. Insert stub > axles back into the crown wheel carrier and rotate them > against each see how much freeplay there is. Ideally there > should be all but none, 5 degrees is acceptable but about > where clunking starts (5 degrees at the output in 15-20 > degrees at the prop shaft). > > If is is sloppy, then the problem lies in the gears with in > the carrier. > > Yours > Vern > On 22-May-09, at 4:25 PM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE > wrote: > > > Thanks to all who replied about my differential.? > I've just gotten it out > > without killing myself (note to Glen!!).? I had > replaced all of the zercs on > > the u-joints and lubricated all of them.? None > are frozen and none appear to > > have too much play.? None of the crown wheel > bolts are loose. > > > > Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I > think the next move is > > to go with having the differential rebuilt.? I > will be contacting Ruth at > > ABC.? Does anyone else have any ideas of > contacts/sources for a differential > > rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential. > > > > Thanks again for all of the help. > > > > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> > > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:15 PM > > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 > > > > > >> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > >> rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide > Web, visit > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > >> rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > >> > >> > >> Please edit your digest reply by changing the > subject line to the topic to > >> which you are referring. > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >>???1. SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range > Rover heads (Nash4447 at cs.com) > >>???2. Re: Clunking differential > (Geff McCarthy) > >>???3. Re: Clunking differential > (Glen Wilson) > >>???4. Re: Clunking differential > (Vern Klukas) > >>???5. Re: Clunking differential > (Eric Russell) > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT > >> From: Nash4447 at cs.com > >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 > & up Range Rover > >> heads > >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4 at cs.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> > >> Fellas > >> > >> I have a nice pair of heads for the above > applications should anyone be > >> interested. They should be hottanked and the > valves ground, of course. The > >> valves are fine so the only parts required would > be new stem seals - no > >> big > >> deal. > >> > >> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup > fine. I am in the Los > >> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the > fedex? ground shipping > >> cost > >> would not be obscene. > >> > >> Glenn > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/8e354a40/attachment-0001.html> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700 > >> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking > differential > >> To: "'The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts.'" > >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > >> Message-ID: > <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into > gear. It is from the > >> loose > >> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft > 10-20 deg. If I understand > >> the book correctly, setting the pinion height > correctly will eliminate it. > >> I > >> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, > located in Oregon. > >> > >> AvMedSafe > >> Geff and Julie McCarthy > >> 677 NW Melinda Ave > >> Portland OR 97210 > >> 503-241-8468 > >> 503-799-3809 mobile > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > >> On > >> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > >> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking > differential > >> > >> Hi Lance, > >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? If > you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you > >> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down > and remove the side that > >> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel > bolts have come loose, > >> this > >> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened > twice to me on different > >> cars, > >> > >> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the > casing and cracks it and > >> it is usually none repairable. I solved the > problem by drilling the heads > >> of > >> > >> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting > thread locker on the > >> threads. > >> > >> Barry > >> > >> > >>> > >>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some > recommendations Ruth of > >>> ABC > >>> gave me in sorting out my differential > 'clunking'.? [As part of my > >>> rebuild > >> > >>> I replaced my old differential with a newer > one which we checked for > >>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not > in the differential itself, > >>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests > below] > >>> > >>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one > problem from the history on > >>> the > >> > >>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the > brakes when backing out of > >>> the garage and they just let the car roll > close to a stop when they then > >>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. > What happens in the diff > >>> is > >>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all > the torque and once you get > >>> into > >> > >>> the higher miles it starts to twist the > splines in the drive gear and > >>> next > >> > >>> thing you know they snap and you have lost > drive. Go the left set and > >>> have > >> > >>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. > It literally means dropping > >>> the half shaft and taking it out". > >>> > >>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub > axle"????Is this the same thing > >>> as the "half shaft"?.???If > someone could give me a clarification about > >>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much > appreciated. > >>> > >>> > >>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Rovernet mailing list > >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>> Here is where you can change your settings > such as digest mode or > >>> no-mail: > >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---- > >> > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 > - Release Date: 05/21/09 > >> 06:22:00 > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rovernet mailing list > >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Here is where you can change your settings such as > digest mode or no-mail: > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400 > >> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking > differential > >> To: "The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts." > >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > >> Message-ID: <4A170FFB.1040208 at comcast.net> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; > Format="flowed" > >> > >> Geff McCarthy wrote: > >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put > into gear. It is from the > >>> loose > >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft > 10-20 deg. If I > >>> understand > >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height > correctly will eliminate > >>> it. I > >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, > located in Oregon. > >>> > >>> AvMedSafe > >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy > >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave > >>> Portland OR 97210 > >>> 503-241-8468 > >>> 503-799-3809 mobile > >>> > >> > >> Geff, > >> > >> I think you should triage this situation and > AvMedSafe that sucker down > >> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an > extra set of hands is > >> always useful when you get into that area around > the P6 differential... > >> > >> Glen > >> > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > >>> On > >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > >>> To: The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts. > >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] > Clunking differential > >>> > >>> Hi Lance, > >>>? ? ? ? ? ? > ? If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I > suggest > >>> you > >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit > down and remove the side > >>> that > >>> comes of and you will find that the crown > wheel bolts have come loose, > >>> this > >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened > twice to me on different > >>> cars, > >>> > >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits > the casing and cracks it > >>> and > >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the > problem by drilling the > >>> heads of > >>> > >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting > thread locker on the > >>> threads. > >>> > >>> Barry > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering > some recommendations Ruth of > >>>> ABC > >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential > 'clunking'.? [As part of my > >>>> rebuild > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> I replaced my old differential with a > newer one which we checked for > >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is > not in the differential > >>>> itself, > >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth > suggests below] > >>>> > >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one > problem from the history on > >>>> the > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using > the brakes when backing out of > >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll > close to a stop when they > >>>> then > >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty > good. What happens in the diff > >>>> is > >>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes > all the torque and once you get > >>>> into > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the > splines in the drive gear and > >>>> next > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost > drive. Go the left set and > >>>> have > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub > axle. It literally means > >>>> dropping > >>>> the half shaft and taking it out". > >>>> > >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub > axle"????Is this the same > >>>> thing > >>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If > someone could give me a clarification about > >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much > appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? > 3500S > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> Rovernet mailing list > >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>>> Here is where you can change your settings > such as digest mode or > >>>> no-mail: > >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> ---- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: > 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: > >>> 05/21/09 > >>> 06:22:00 > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Rovernet mailing list > >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>> Here is where you can change your settings > such as digest mode or > >>> no-mail: > >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Rovernet mailing list > >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>> Here is where you can change your settings > such as digest mode or > >>> no-mail: > >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/bbd4d53b/attachment-0001.html> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 4 > >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700 > >> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking > differential > >> To: "The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts." > >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > >> Message-ID: <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340 at inkspotco.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed; delsp=yes > >> > >> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown > gear carrier. My > >> experience has been that the pinion & crown > gear give no trouble, > >> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts > backing out and > >> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good > to know that you > >> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? > The manual shows > >> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 > is the same) tools, > >> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual > one. > >> > >> Yours > >> Vern > >> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > >> > >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put > into gear. It is from > >>> the loose > >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft > 10-20 deg. If I > >>> understand > >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height > correctly will > >>> eliminate it. I > >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, > located in Oregon. > >>> > >>> AvMedSafe > >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy > >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave > >>> Portland OR 97210 > >>> 503-241-8468 > >>> 503-799-3809 mobile > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > >>> ] On > >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > >>> To: The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts. > >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] > Clunking differential > >>> > >>> Hi Lance, > >>>? ? ? ? ? > ???If you have a clunking in the diff. on a > 3500s I > >>> suggest you > >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit > down and remove the > >>> side that > >>> comes of and you will find that the crown > wheel bolts have come > >>> loose, this > >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened > twice to me on > >>> different cars, > >>> > >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits > the casing and cracks > >>> it and > >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the > problem by drilling the > >>> heads of > >>> > >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting > thread locker on the > >>> threads. > >>> > >>> Barry > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering > some recommendations Ruth > >>>> of ABC > >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential > 'clunking'.? [As part of my > >>>> rebuild > >>> > >>>> I replaced my old differential with a > newer one which we checked for > >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is > not in the differential > >>>> itself, > >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth > suggests below] > >>>> > >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one > problem from the history > >>>> on the > >>> > >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using > the brakes when backing > >>>> out of > >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll > close to a stop when they > >>>> then > >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty > good. What happens in the > >>>> diff is > >>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes > all the torque and once you > >>>> get into > >>> > >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the > splines in the drive gear > >>>> and next > >>> > >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost > drive. Go the left set > >>>> and have > >>> > >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub > axle. It literally means > >>>> dropping > >>>> the half shaft and taking it out". > >>>> > >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub > axle"????Is this the same > >>>> thing > >>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If > someone could give me a clarification > >>>> about > >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much > appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? > 3500S > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> Rovernet mailing list > >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>>> Here is where you can change your settings > such as digest mode or > >>>> no-mail: > >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> ---- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: > 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: > >>> 05/21/09 > >>> 06:22:00 > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Rovernet mailing list > >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>> Here is where you can change your settings > such as digest mode or no- > >>> mail: > >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Rovernet mailing list > >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>> Here is where you can change your settings > such as digest mode or no- > >>> mail: > >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 5 > >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT) > >> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking > differential > >> To: "The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts." > >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > >> Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm at web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >> > >> > >> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn > "U" joint on one of the > >> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 > "U" joints to consider. > >> That happened with me. > >> > >> Eric > >> > >> > >> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada > >> Website:? http://www.roverclub.ca/ > >> Webmaster of a variety of sites from: > >> http://www.websrus.ca > >> > >> > >> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> > wrote: > >> > >>> From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> > >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] > Clunking differential > >>> To: "'The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts.'" > >>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > >>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM > >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only > >>> when put into gear. It is from the loose > >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft > 10-20 deg. > >>> If I understand > >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height > correctly > >>> will eliminate it. I > >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, > located in > >>> Oregon. > >>> > >>> AvMedSafe > >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy > >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave > >>> Portland OR 97210 > >>> 503-241-8468 > >>> 503-799-3809 mobile > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > >>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > >>> On > >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > >>> To: The original list for Rover car > enthusiasts. > >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] > Clunking > >>> differential > >>> > >>> Hi Lance, > >>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you > >>> have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I > suggest you > >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit > down and > >>> remove the side that > >>> comes of and you will find that the crown > wheel bolts have > >>> come loose, this > >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened > twice to me > >>> on different cars, > >>> > >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits > the casing > >>> and cracks it and > >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the > problem by > >>> drilling the heads of > >>> > >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting > thread > >>> locker on the threads. > >>> > >>> Barry > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering > some > >>> recommendations Ruth of ABC > >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential > >>> 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild > >>> > >>>> I replaced my old differential with a > newer one which > >>> we checked for > >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is > not in the > >>> differential itself, > >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth > suggests below] > >>>> > >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one > problem > >>> from the history on the > >>> > >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using > the brakes > >>> when backing out of > >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll > close to a > >>> stop when they then > >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty > good. What > >>> happens in the diff is > >>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all > the > >>> torque and once you get into > >>> > >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the > splines in the > >>> drive gear and next > >>> > >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost > drive. Go > >>> the left set and have > >>> > >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub > axle. It > >>> literally means dropping > >>>> the half shaft and taking it out". > >>>> > >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub > >>> axle"????Is this the same thing > >>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If someone > >>> could give me a clarification about > >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much > appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? 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Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From gbrovers at aol.com Sat May 23 00:38:36 2009 From: gbrovers at aol.com (Bill Davis) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 22:38:36 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help In-Reply-To: <630682.25142.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <630682.25142.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1325F4CD-7271-4F28-B2C1-8F43216D0574@aol.com> I know some Rover cars used the Rover diff i.e. the differential found in the Land Rover until recently. The P5 I used to own had the identical diff to a Land Rover other than it had a different ratio. So the question is, does the 3500 have the Rover differential? The reason I'm asking is that I own a Land Rover differential remanufacturing business so rebuilding Rover car differentials would be a snap for us. I'm new to this forum (about a week or two) and didn't join to promote differential rebuilding but I thought I would throw it out as a resource. I'd be happy to try and answer the original question but didn't save it so if whoever originally asked it throws it back out, I'll take a crack at it. Bill On May 22, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Eric Russell wrote: > > PS. I know where gears are available :-) > Eric > > > Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada > Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ > Webmaster of a variety of sites from: > http://www.websrus.ca > > > --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote: > >> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > >> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:13 PM >> The next thing to do is take the >> crown wheel carrier and set it on the bench. Insert stub >> axles back into the crown wheel carrier and rotate them >> against each see how much freeplay there is. Ideally there >> should be all but none, 5 degrees is acceptable but about >> where clunking starts (5 degrees at the output in 15-20 >> degrees at the prop shaft). >> >> If is is sloppy, then the problem lies in the gears with in >> the carrier. >> >> Yours >> Vern >> On 22-May-09, at 4:25 PM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks to all who replied about my differential. >> I've just gotten it out >>> without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had >> replaced all of the zercs on >>> the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None >> are frozen and none appear to >>> have too much play. None of the crown wheel >> bolts are loose. >>> >>> Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I >> think the next move is >>> to go with having the differential rebuilt. I >> will be contacting Ruth at >>> ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of >> contacts/sources for a differential >>> rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential. >>> >>> Thanks again for all of the help. >>> >>> >>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> >>> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:15 PM >>> Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 >>> >>> >>>> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to >>>> rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide >> Web, visit >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body >> 'help' to >>>> rovernet-request at rovernet.ca >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it >> is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Please edit your digest reply by changing the >> subject line to the topic to >>>> which you are referring. >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range >> Rover heads (Nash4447 at cs.com) >>>> 2. Re: Clunking differential >> (Geff McCarthy) >>>> 3. Re: Clunking differential >> (Glen Wilson) >>>> 4. Re: Clunking differential >> (Vern Klukas) >>>> 5. Re: Clunking differential >> (Eric Russell) >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT >>>> From: Nash4447 at cs.com >>>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 >> & up Range Rover >>>> heads >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4 at cs.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> >>>> Fellas >>>> >>>> I have a nice pair of heads for the above >> applications should anyone be >>>> interested. They should be hottanked and the >> valves ground, of course. The >>>> valves are fine so the only parts required would >> be new stem seals - no >>>> big >>>> deal. >>>> >>>> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup >> fine. I am in the Los >>>> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the >> fedex ground shipping >>>> cost >>>> would not be obscene. >>>> >>>> Glenn >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/8e354a40/attachment-0001.html >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700 >>>> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> To: "'The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts.'" >>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>> Message-ID: >> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into >> gear. It is from the >>>> loose >>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft >> 10-20 deg. If I understand >>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height >> correctly will eliminate it. >>>> I >>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, >> located in Oregon. >>>> >>>> AvMedSafe >>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>>> Portland OR 97210 >>>> 503-241-8468 >>>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> >>>> Hi Lance, >>>> If >> you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you >>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down >> and remove the side that >>>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel >> bolts have come loose, >>>> this >>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened >> twice to me on different >>>> cars, >>>> >>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the >> casing and cracks it and >>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the >> problem by drilling the heads >>>> of >>>> >>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting >> thread locker on the >>>> threads. >>>> >>>> Barry >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some >> recommendations Ruth of >>>>> ABC >>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential >> 'clunking'. [As part of my >>>>> rebuild >>>> >>>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer >> one which we checked for >>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not >> in the differential itself, >>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests >> below] >>>>> >>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one >> problem from the history on >>>>> the >>>> >>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the >> brakes when backing out of >>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll >> close to a stop when they then >>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. >> What happens in the diff >>>>> is >>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all >> the torque and once you get >>>>> into >>>> >>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the >> splines in the drive gear and >>>>> next >>>> >>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost >> drive. Go the left set and >>>>> have >>>> >>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. >> It literally means dropping >>>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >> axle"? Is this the same thing >>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If >> someone could give me a clarification about >>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much >> appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>> no-mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 >> - Release Date: 05/21/09 >>>> 06:22:00 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> Here is where you can change your settings such as >> digest mode or no-mail: >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400 >>>> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> To: "The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts." >>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>> Message-ID: <4A170FFB.1040208 at comcast.net> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> Format="flowed" >>>> >>>> Geff McCarthy wrote: >>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put >> into gear. It is from the >>>>> loose >>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft >> 10-20 deg. If I >>>>> understand >>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height >> correctly will eliminate >>>>> it. I >>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, >> located in Oregon. >>>>> >>>>> AvMedSafe >>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>>>> Portland OR 97210 >>>>> 503-241-8468 >>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>>>> >>>> >>>> Geff, >>>> >>>> I think you should triage this situation and >> AvMedSafe that sucker down >>>> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an >> extra set of hands is >>>> always useful when you get into that area around >> the P6 differential... >>>> >>>> Glen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>>>> To: The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts. >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] >> Clunking differential >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lance, >>>>> >> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >> suggest >>>>> you >>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit >> down and remove the side >>>>> that >>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown >> wheel bolts have come loose, >>>>> this >>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened >> twice to me on different >>>>> cars, >>>>> >>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits >> the casing and cracks it >>>>> and >>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the >> problem by drilling the >>>>> heads of >>>>> >>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting >> thread locker on the >>>>> threads. >>>>> >>>>> Barry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering >> some recommendations Ruth of >>>>>> ABC >>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential >> 'clunking'. [As part of my >>>>>> rebuild >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a >> newer one which we checked for >>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is >> not in the differential >>>>>> itself, >>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth >> suggests below] >>>>>> >>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one >> problem from the history on >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using >> the brakes when backing out of >>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll >> close to a stop when they >>>>>> then >>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty >> good. What happens in the diff >>>>>> is >>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes >> all the torque and once you get >>>>>> into >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the >> splines in the drive gear and >>>>>> next >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost >> drive. Go the left set and >>>>>> have >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub >> axle. It literally means >>>>>> dropping >>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >> axle"? Is this the same >>>>>> thing >>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If >> someone could give me a clarification about >>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much >> appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 >> 3500S >>>>>> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>>> no-mail: >>>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: >> 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >>>>> 05/21/09 >>>>> 06:22:00 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>> no-mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>> no-mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/bbd4d53b/attachment-0001.html >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700 >>>> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> To: "The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts." >>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>> Message-ID: <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340 at inkspotco.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; >> format=flowed; delsp=yes >>>> >>>> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown >> gear carrier. My >>>> experience has been that the pinion & crown >> gear give no trouble, >>>> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts >> backing out and >>>> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good >> to know that you >>>> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? >> The manual shows >>>> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 >> is the same) tools, >>>> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual >> one. >>>> >>>> Yours >>>> Vern >>>> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: >>>> >>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put >> into gear. It is from >>>>> the loose >>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft >> 10-20 deg. If I >>>>> understand >>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height >> correctly will >>>>> eliminate it. I >>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, >> located in Oregon. >>>>> >>>>> AvMedSafe >>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>>>> Portland OR 97210 >>>>> 503-241-8468 >>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>>>> ] On >>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>>>> To: The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts. >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] >> Clunking differential >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lance, >>>>> >> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a >> 3500s I >>>>> suggest you >>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit >> down and remove the >>>>> side that >>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown >> wheel bolts have come >>>>> loose, this >>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened >> twice to me on >>>>> different cars, >>>>> >>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits >> the casing and cracks >>>>> it and >>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the >> problem by drilling the >>>>> heads of >>>>> >>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting >> thread locker on the >>>>> threads. >>>>> >>>>> Barry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering >> some recommendations Ruth >>>>>> of ABC >>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential >> 'clunking'. [As part of my >>>>>> rebuild >>>>> >>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a >> newer one which we checked for >>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is >> not in the differential >>>>>> itself, >>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth >> suggests below] >>>>>> >>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one >> problem from the history >>>>>> on the >>>>> >>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using >> the brakes when backing >>>>>> out of >>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll >> close to a stop when they >>>>>> then >>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty >> good. What happens in the >>>>>> diff is >>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes >> all the torque and once you >>>>>> get into >>>>> >>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the >> splines in the drive gear >>>>>> and next >>>>> >>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost >> drive. Go the left set >>>>>> and have >>>>> >>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub >> axle. It literally means >>>>>> dropping >>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >> axle"? Is this the same >>>>>> thing >>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If >> someone could give me a clarification >>>>>> about >>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much >> appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 >> 3500S >>>>>> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>>> no-mail: >>>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: >> 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >>>>> 05/21/09 >>>>> 06:22:00 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or no- >>>>> mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or no- >>>>> mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT) >>>> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> To: "The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts." >>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>> Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm at web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >>>> >>>> >>>> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn >> "U" joint on one of the >>>> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 >> "U" joints to consider. >>>> That happened with me. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> >>>> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada >>>> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ >>>> Webmaster of a variety of sites from: >>>> http://www.websrus.ca >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] >> Clunking differential >>>>> To: "'The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts.'" >>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM >>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only >>>>> when put into gear. It is from the loose >>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft >> 10-20 deg. >>>>> If I understand >>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height >> correctly >>>>> will eliminate it. I >>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, >> located in >>>>> Oregon. >>>>> >>>>> AvMedSafe >>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>>>> Portland OR 97210 >>>>> 503-241-8468 >>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>>>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>>>> To: The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts. >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] >> Clunking >>>>> differential >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lance, >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you >>>>> have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >> suggest you >>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit >> down and >>>>> remove the side that >>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown >> wheel bolts have >>>>> come loose, this >>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened >> twice to me >>>>> on different cars, >>>>> >>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits >> the casing >>>>> and cracks it and >>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the >> problem by >>>>> drilling the heads of >>>>> >>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting >> thread >>>>> locker on the threads. >>>>> >>>>> Barry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering >> some >>>>> recommendations Ruth of ABC >>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential >>>>> 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild >>>>> >>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a >> newer one which >>>>> we checked for >>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is >> not in the >>>>> differential itself, >>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth >> suggests below] >>>>>> >>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one >> problem >>>>> from the history on the >>>>> >>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using >> the brakes >>>>> when backing out of >>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll >> close to a >>>>> stop when they then >>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty >> good. What >>>>> happens in the diff is >>>>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all >> the >>>>> torque and once you get into >>>>> >>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the >> splines in the >>>>> drive gear and next >>>>> >>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost >> drive. Go >>>>> the left set and have >>>>> >>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub >> axle. It >>>>> literally means dropping >>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >>>>> axle"????Is this the same thing >>>>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If someone >>>>> could give me a clarification about >>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much >> appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S >>>>>> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as >>>>> digest mode or no-mail: >>>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: >> 270.12.36/2126 - Release >>>>> Date: 05/21/09 >>>>> 06:22:00 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest >>>>> mode or no-mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest >>>>> mode or no-mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> __________________________________________________________________ >>>> Yahoo! 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Download it now >>>> http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> Here is where you can change your settings such as >> digest mode or no-mail: >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>> >>>> End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 >>>> **************************************** >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as >> digest mode or no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >> mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for > Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 23 03:02:09 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:02:09 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help In-Reply-To: <1325F4CD-7271-4F28-B2C1-8F43216D0574@aol.com> References: <630682.25142.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1325F4CD-7271-4F28-B2C1-8F43216D0574@aol.com> Message-ID: <79055DC4D73141D0969240BCD6F8AECE@Vista> The p6 diffs are different to the p4/p5/landy diffs. However many of the principles are the same, the idler gears may have the same number of teeth etc. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Davis" <gbrovers at aol.com> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help I know some Rover cars used the Rover diff i.e. the differential found in the Land Rover until recently. The P5 I used to own had the identical diff to a Land Rover other than it had a different ratio. So the question is, does the 3500 have the Rover differential? The reason I'm asking is that I own a Land Rover differential remanufacturing business so rebuilding Rover car differentials would be a snap for us. I'm new to this forum (about a week or two) and didn't join to promote differential rebuilding but I thought I would throw it out as a resource. I'd be happy to try and answer the original question but didn't save it so if whoever originally asked it throws it back out, I'll take a crack at it. Bill On May 22, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Eric Russell wrote: > > PS. I know where gears are available :-) > Eric > > > Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada > Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ > Webmaster of a variety of sites from: > http://www.websrus.ca > > > --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote: > >> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > >> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:13 PM >> The next thing to do is take the >> crown wheel carrier and set it on the bench. Insert stub >> axles back into the crown wheel carrier and rotate them >> against each see how much freeplay there is. Ideally there >> should be all but none, 5 degrees is acceptable but about >> where clunking starts (5 degrees at the output in 15-20 >> degrees at the prop shaft). >> >> If is is sloppy, then the problem lies in the gears with in >> the carrier. >> >> Yours >> Vern >> On 22-May-09, at 4:25 PM, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks to all who replied about my differential. >> I've just gotten it out >>> without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had >> replaced all of the zercs on >>> the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None >> are frozen and none appear to >>> have too much play. None of the crown wheel >> bolts are loose. >>> >>> Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I >> think the next move is >>> to go with having the differential rebuilt. I >> will be contacting Ruth at >>> ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of >> contacts/sources for a differential >>> rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential. >>> >>> Thanks again for all of the help. >>> >>> >>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> >>> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:15 PM >>> Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 >>> >>> >>>> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to >>>> rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide >> Web, visit >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body >> 'help' to >>>> rovernet-request at rovernet.ca >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it >> is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Please edit your digest reply by changing the >> subject line to the topic to >>>> which you are referring. >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range >> Rover heads (Nash4447 at cs.com) >>>> 2. Re: Clunking differential >> (Geff McCarthy) >>>> 3. Re: Clunking differential >> (Glen Wilson) >>>> 4. Re: Clunking differential >> (Vern Klukas) >>>> 5. Re: Clunking differential >> (Eric Russell) >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT >>>> From: Nash4447 at cs.com >>>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 >> & up Range Rover >>>> heads >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4 at cs.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> >>>> Fellas >>>> >>>> I have a nice pair of heads for the above >> applications should anyone be >>>> interested. They should be hottanked and the >> valves ground, of course. The >>>> valves are fine so the only parts required would >> be new stem seals - no >>>> big >>>> deal. >>>> >>>> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup >> fine. I am in the Los >>>> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the >> fedex ground shipping >>>> cost >>>> would not be obscene. >>>> >>>> Glenn >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/8e354a40/attachment-0001.html >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700 >>>> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> To: "'The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts.'" >>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>> Message-ID: >> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into >> gear. It is from the >>>> loose >>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft >> 10-20 deg. If I understand >>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height >> correctly will eliminate it. >>>> I >>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, >> located in Oregon. >>>> >>>> AvMedSafe >>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>>> Portland OR 97210 >>>> 503-241-8468 >>>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> >>>> Hi Lance, >>>> If >> you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you >>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down >> and remove the side that >>>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel >> bolts have come loose, >>>> this >>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened >> twice to me on different >>>> cars, >>>> >>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the >> casing and cracks it and >>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the >> problem by drilling the heads >>>> of >>>> >>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting >> thread locker on the >>>> threads. >>>> >>>> Barry >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some >> recommendations Ruth of >>>>> ABC >>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential >> 'clunking'. [As part of my >>>>> rebuild >>>> >>>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer >> one which we checked for >>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not >> in the differential itself, >>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests >> below] >>>>> >>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one >> problem from the history on >>>>> the >>>> >>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the >> brakes when backing out of >>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll >> close to a stop when they then >>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. >> What happens in the diff >>>>> is >>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all >> the torque and once you get >>>>> into >>>> >>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the >> splines in the drive gear and >>>>> next >>>> >>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost >> drive. Go the left set and >>>>> have >>>> >>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. >> It literally means dropping >>>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >> axle"? Is this the same thing >>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If >> someone could give me a clarification about >>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much >> appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>> no-mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 >> - Release Date: 05/21/09 >>>> 06:22:00 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> Here is where you can change your settings such as >> digest mode or no-mail: >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400 >>>> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> To: "The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts." >>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>> Message-ID: <4A170FFB.1040208 at comcast.net> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> Format="flowed" >>>> >>>> Geff McCarthy wrote: >>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put >> into gear. It is from the >>>>> loose >>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft >> 10-20 deg. If I >>>>> understand >>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height >> correctly will eliminate >>>>> it. I >>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, >> located in Oregon. >>>>> >>>>> AvMedSafe >>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>>>> Portland OR 97210 >>>>> 503-241-8468 >>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>>>> >>>> >>>> Geff, >>>> >>>> I think you should triage this situation and >> AvMedSafe that sucker down >>>> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an >> extra set of hands is >>>> always useful when you get into that area around >> the P6 differential... >>>> >>>> Glen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>>>> To: The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts. >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] >> Clunking differential >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lance, >>>>> >> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >> suggest >>>>> you >>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit >> down and remove the side >>>>> that >>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown >> wheel bolts have come loose, >>>>> this >>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened >> twice to me on different >>>>> cars, >>>>> >>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits >> the casing and cracks it >>>>> and >>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the >> problem by drilling the >>>>> heads of >>>>> >>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting >> thread locker on the >>>>> threads. >>>>> >>>>> Barry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering >> some recommendations Ruth of >>>>>> ABC >>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential >> 'clunking'. [As part of my >>>>>> rebuild >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a >> newer one which we checked for >>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is >> not in the differential >>>>>> itself, >>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth >> suggests below] >>>>>> >>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one >> problem from the history on >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using >> the brakes when backing out of >>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll >> close to a stop when they >>>>>> then >>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty >> good. What happens in the diff >>>>>> is >>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes >> all the torque and once you get >>>>>> into >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the >> splines in the drive gear and >>>>>> next >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost >> drive. Go the left set and >>>>>> have >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub >> axle. It literally means >>>>>> dropping >>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >> axle"? Is this the same >>>>>> thing >>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If >> someone could give me a clarification about >>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much >> appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 >> 3500S >>>>>> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>>> no-mail: >>>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: >> 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >>>>> 05/21/09 >>>>> 06:22:00 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>> no-mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>> no-mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/bbd4d53b/attachment-0001.html >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700 >>>> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> To: "The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts." >>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>> Message-ID: <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340 at inkspotco.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; >> format=flowed; delsp=yes >>>> >>>> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown >> gear carrier. My >>>> experience has been that the pinion & crown >> gear give no trouble, >>>> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts >> backing out and >>>> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good >> to know that you >>>> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? >> The manual shows >>>> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 >> is the same) tools, >>>> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual >> one. >>>> >>>> Yours >>>> Vern >>>> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: >>>> >>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put >> into gear. It is from >>>>> the loose >>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft >> 10-20 deg. If I >>>>> understand >>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height >> correctly will >>>>> eliminate it. I >>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, >> located in Oregon. >>>>> >>>>> AvMedSafe >>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>>>> Portland OR 97210 >>>>> 503-241-8468 >>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>>>> ] On >>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>>>> To: The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts. >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] >> Clunking differential >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lance, >>>>> >> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a >> 3500s I >>>>> suggest you >>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit >> down and remove the >>>>> side that >>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown >> wheel bolts have come >>>>> loose, this >>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened >> twice to me on >>>>> different cars, >>>>> >>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits >> the casing and cracks >>>>> it and >>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the >> problem by drilling the >>>>> heads of >>>>> >>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting >> thread locker on the >>>>> threads. >>>>> >>>>> Barry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering >> some recommendations Ruth >>>>>> of ABC >>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential >> 'clunking'. [As part of my >>>>>> rebuild >>>>> >>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a >> newer one which we checked for >>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is >> not in the differential >>>>>> itself, >>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth >> suggests below] >>>>>> >>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one >> problem from the history >>>>>> on the >>>>> >>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using >> the brakes when backing >>>>>> out of >>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll >> close to a stop when they >>>>>> then >>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty >> good. What happens in the >>>>>> diff is >>>>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes >> all the torque and once you >>>>>> get into >>>>> >>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the >> splines in the drive gear >>>>>> and next >>>>> >>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost >> drive. Go the left set >>>>>> and have >>>>> >>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub >> axle. It literally means >>>>>> dropping >>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >> axle"? Is this the same >>>>>> thing >>>>>> as the "half shaft"?. If >> someone could give me a clarification >>>>>> about >>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much >> appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 >> 3500S >>>>>> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or >>>>>> no-mail: >>>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: >> 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >>>>> 05/21/09 >>>>> 06:22:00 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or no- >>>>> mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is where you can change your settings >> such as digest mode or no- >>>>> mail: >>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT) >>>> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> differential >>>> To: "The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts." >>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>> Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm at web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >>>> >>>> >>>> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn >> "U" joint on one of the >>>> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 >> "U" joints to consider. >>>> That happened with me. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> >>>> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada >>>> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ >>>> Webmaster of a variety of sites from: >>>> http://www.websrus.ca >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] >> Clunking differential >>>>> To: "'The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts.'" >>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >>>>> Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM >>>>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only >>>>> when put into gear. It is from the loose >>>>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft >> 10-20 deg. >>>>> If I understand >>>>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height >> correctly >>>>> will eliminate it. I >>>>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, >> located in >>>>> Oregon. >>>>> >>>>> AvMedSafe >>>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>>>> Portland OR 97210 >>>>> 503-241-8468 >>>>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>>>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>>>> To: The original list for Rover car >> enthusiasts. >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] >> Clunking >>>>> differential >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lance, >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you >>>>> have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >> suggest you >>>>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit >> down and >>>>> remove the side that >>>>> comes of and you will find that the crown >> wheel bolts have >>>>> come loose, this >>>>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened >> twice to me >>>>> on different cars, >>>>> >>>>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits >> the casing >>>>> and cracks it and >>>>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the >> problem by >>>>> drilling the heads of >>>>> >>>>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting >> thread >>>>> locker on the threads. >>>>> >>>>> Barry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering >> some >>>>> recommendations Ruth of ABC >>>>>> gave me in sorting out my differential >>>>> 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild >>>>> >>>>>> I replaced my old differential with a >> newer one which >>>>> we checked for >>>>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is >> not in the >>>>> differential itself, >>>>>> but directly external to it as Ruth >> suggests below] >>>>>> >>>>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one >> problem >>>>> from the history on the >>>>> >>>>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using >> the brakes >>>>> when backing out of >>>>>> the garage and they just let the car roll >> close to a >>>>> stop when they then >>>>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty >> good. What >>>>> happens in the diff is >>>>>> the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all >> the >>>>> torque and once you get into >>>>> >>>>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the >> splines in the >>>>> drive gear and next >>>>> >>>>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost >> drive. Go >>>>> the left set and have >>>>> >>>>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub >> axle. It >>>>> literally means dropping >>>>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >>>>> axle"????Is this the same thing >>>>>> as the "half shaft"?.???If someone >>>>> could give me a clarification about >>>>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much >> appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? 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Download it now >>>> http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> Here is where you can change your settings such as >> digest mode or no-mail: >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>>> >>>> End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 >>>> **************************************** >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as >> digest mode or no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >> mode or no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > > __________________________________________________________________ > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. 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Get it Now for Free! at > http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From kkinard at att.net Sat May 23 10:23:58 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:23:58 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] North American P5B Owners Free Offer Message-ID: <4A1806FE.1090902@att.net> Hi Netters, If you own a P5B, either Saloon or Coupe, and live in North America, I will send you a pair of genuine Rover P5B cufflinks if you will send me a picture of your car and VIN. This offer is good for the first twelve cars only and Dirk only gets one pair:-) I am betting that there aren't twelve P5B owners in North America. Bill Davis, who just recently joined the list, has a P5B Coupe _LHD_, though he hasn't shared the details as yet. Roverfreeofferly, Kent K. From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sat May 23 11:32:06 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 08:32:06 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential In-Reply-To: <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> Message-ID: <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder! AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Vern Klukas Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:04 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble, other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools, push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one. Yours Vern On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from > the loose > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I > understand > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will > eliminate it. I > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > ] On > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > Hi Lance, > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I > suggest you > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the > side that > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come > loose, this > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on > different cars, > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks > it and > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the > heads of > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the > threads. > > Barry > > >> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth >> of ABC >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >> rebuild > >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >> itself, >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history >> on the > >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing >> out of >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >> then >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the >> diff is >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you >> get into > >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear >> and next > >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set >> and have > >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >> dropping >> the half shaft and taking it out". >> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >> thing >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification >> about >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >> >> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: > 05/21/09 > 06:22:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sat May 23 11:35:04 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 08:35:04 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS6FAD51EC8EF8E476A3AB683560@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.13.1243026921.13666.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <COL111-DS6FAD51EC8EF8E476A3AB683560@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <001a01c9dbbc$0bbf97d0$233ec770$@net> I have a spare P6 3500S diff, if needed. It has a welded case, but worked fine when I elected to replace it. I replaced it because of its "clunk" when engaging the transmission. The new one has the same clunk. Go figure. I would only expect a nominal fee for it, but postage will be daunting. (Portland, Oregon.) AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:25 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help Thanks to all who replied about my differential. I've just gotten it out without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had replaced all of the zercs on the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None are frozen and none appear to have too much play. None of the crown wheel bolts are loose. Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the next move is to go with having the differential rebuilt. I will be contacting Ruth at ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of contacts/sources for a differential rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential. Thanks again for all of the help. Lance La Certe, Psy.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to > which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover heads (Nash4447 at cs.com) > 2. Re: Clunking differential (Geff McCarthy) > 3. Re: Clunking differential (Glen Wilson) > 4. Re: Clunking differential (Vern Klukas) > 5. Re: Clunking differential (Eric Russell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT > From: Nash4447 at cs.com > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover > heads > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4 at cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Fellas > > I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should anyone be > interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of course. The > valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals - no > big > deal. > > $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los > Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground shipping > cost > would not be obscene. > > Glenn > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/8e35 4a40/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700 > From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the > loose > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate it. > I > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > Hi Lance, > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side that > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, > this > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different > cars, > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it and > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads > of > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the > threads. > > Barry > > > > > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of > > ABC > > gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my > > rebuild > > > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for > > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential itself, > > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > > > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on > > the > > > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of > > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they then > > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff > > is > > the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get > > into > > > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and > > next > > > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and > > have > > > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means dropping > > the half shaft and taking it out". > > > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same thing > > as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about > > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: 05/21/09 > 06:22:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400 > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4A170FFB.1040208 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Geff McCarthy wrote: > > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the > > loose > > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I > > understand > > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate > > it. I > > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. > > > > AvMedSafe > > Geff and Julie McCarthy > > 677 NW Melinda Ave > > Portland OR 97210 > > 503-241-8468 > > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > > Geff, > > I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker down > to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of hands is > always useful when you get into that area around the P6 differential... > > Glen > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > > On > > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > > > Hi Lance, > > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest > > you > > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side > > that > > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, > > this > > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different > > cars, > > > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it > > and > > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the > > heads of > > > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the > > threads. > > > > Barry > > > > > > > >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of > >> ABC > >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my > >> rebuild > >> > > > > > >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for > >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential > >> itself, > >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > >> > >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on > >> the > >> > > > > > >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of > >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they > >> then > >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff > >> is > >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get > >> into > >> > > > > > >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and > >> next > >> > > > > > >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and > >> have > >> > > > > > >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means > >> dropping > >> the half shaft and taking it out". > >> > >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same > >> thing > >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about > >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > >> > >> > >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rovernet mailing list > >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > >> no-mail: > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: > > 05/21/09 > > 06:22:00 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/bbd4 d53b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700 > From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340 at inkspotco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My > experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble, > other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and > destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you > have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows > three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools, > push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one. > > Yours > Vern > On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > > > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from > > the loose > > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I > > understand > > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will > > eliminate it. I > > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. > > > > AvMedSafe > > Geff and Julie McCarthy > > 677 NW Melinda Ave > > Portland OR 97210 > > 503-241-8468 > > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > > ] On > > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > > > Hi Lance, > > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I > > suggest you > > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the > > side that > > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come > > loose, this > > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on > > different cars, > > > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks > > it and > > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the > > heads of > > > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the > > threads. > > > > Barry > > > > > >> > >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth > >> of ABC > >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my > >> rebuild > > > >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for > >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential > >> itself, > >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > >> > >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history > >> on the > > > >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing > >> out of > >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they > >> then > >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the > >> diff is > >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you > >> get into > > > >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear > >> and next > > > >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set > >> and have > > > >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means > >> dropping > >> the half shaft and taking it out". > >> > >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same > >> thing > >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification > >> about > >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > >> > >> > >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rovernet mailing list > >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > >> no-mail: > >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: > >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: > > 05/21/09 > > 06:22:00 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > > mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > > mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT) > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm at web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one of the > half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to consider. > That happened with me. > > Eric > > > Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada > Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ > Webmaster of a variety of sites from: > http://www.websrus.ca > > > --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote: > > > From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" > > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > > Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM > > My "new" diff also clunks, but only > > when put into gear. It is from the loose > > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. > > If I understand > > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly > > will eliminate it. I > > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in > > Oregon. > > > > AvMedSafe > > Geff and Julie McCarthy > > 677 NW Melinda Ave > > Portland OR 97210 > > 503-241-8468 > > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > > On > > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery > > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM > > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking > > differential > > > > Hi Lance, > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you > > have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you > > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and > > remove the side that > > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have > > come loose, this > > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me > > on different cars, > > > > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing > > and cracks it and > > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by > > drilling the heads of > > > > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread > > locker on the threads. > > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some > > recommendations Ruth of ABC > > > gave me in sorting out my differential > > 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild > > > > > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which > > we checked for > > > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the > > differential itself, > > > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] > > > > > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem > > from the history on the > > > > > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes > > when backing out of > > > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a > > stop when they then > > > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What > > happens in the diff is > > > the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the > > torque and once you get into > > > > > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the > > drive gear and next > > > > > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go > > the left set and have > > > > > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It > > literally means dropping > > > the half shaft and taking it out". > > > > > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub > > axle"????Is this the same thing > > > as the "half shaft"?.???If someone > > could give me a clarification about > > > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? 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Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 > **************************************** > _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From vern at inkspotco.com Sat May 23 12:09:18 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Main) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:09:18 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential In-Reply-To: <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> Message-ID: <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998 Yours Vern Inkspot Type & Design 250 864 5619 Sent from my iPhone On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote: > Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder! > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > ] On > Behalf Of Vern Klukas > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:04 PM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My > experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble, > other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and > destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you > have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows > three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools, > push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one. > > Yours > Vern > On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > >> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from >> the loose >> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I >> understand >> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will >> eliminate it. I >> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. >> >> AvMedSafe >> Geff and Julie McCarthy >> 677 NW Melinda Ave >> Portland OR 97210 >> 503-241-8468 >> 503-799-3809 mobile >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> ] On >> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> >> Hi Lance, >> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >> suggest you >> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the >> side that >> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come >> loose, this >> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on >> different cars, >> >> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks >> it and >> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the >> heads of >> >> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the >> threads. >> >> Barry >> >> >>> >>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth >>> of ABC >>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >>> rebuild >> >>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for >>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >>> itself, >>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >>> >>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history >>> on the >> >>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing >>> out of >>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >>> then >>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the >>> diff is >>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you >>> get into >> >>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear >>> and next >> >>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set >>> and have >> >>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >>> dropping >>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>> >>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >>> thing >>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification >>> about >>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >>> >>> >>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> > --- > --- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >> 05/21/09 >> 06:22:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sat May 23 13:44:23 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 03:14:23 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5B camper In-Reply-To: <935296187.490601237871471249.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <935296187.490601237871471249.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A1835F7.1060500@ozemail.com.au> Hi all A rare beast ;-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/albertsbite/2495512522 Cheers Dave South Oz From kkinard at att.net Sat May 23 14:21:45 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:21:45 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5B camper In-Reply-To: <4A1835F7.1060500@ozemail.com.au> References: <935296187.490601237871471249.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4A1835F7.1060500@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <4A183EB9.6040802@att.net> Hi Dave, This is a well known car in UK P5 club. I believe it has been heavily modified in addition to the camper conversion. It has an SD1 engine and a ZF22HP gearbox from a Sherpa V8 van. It is known as Wholly Roadworthy. Roverly, Kent K. David Read wrote: > Hi all > A rare beast ;-) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/albertsbite/2495512522 > > Cheers > Dave > South Oz > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Sat May 23 16:31:57 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:31:57 -0300 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5B camper References: <935296187.490601237871471249.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4A1835F7.1060500@ozemail.com.au> <4A183EB9.6040802@att.net> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP77F8054FE9C55121CC4E395570@phx.gbl> Hi Kent,etal There is a P5 camper conversion featured in James L Taylors book 'The Post War Rovers P4 and P5. its found on page 133. Regards Ben (irishrover) Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 23 18:18:03 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 08:18:03 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help In-Reply-To: <001a01c9dbbc$0bbf97d0$233ec770$@net> References: <mailman.13.1243026921.13666.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><COL111-DS6FAD51EC8EF8E476A3AB683560@phx.gbl> <001a01c9dbbc$0bbf97d0$233ec770$@net> Message-ID: <02A75426743A4F8CA0C7266C248A21AB@Vista> Rovers Always have lots of backlash. I rate it as a design flaw. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 1:35 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help >I have a spare P6 3500S diff, if needed. It has a welded case, but worked > fine when I elected to replace it. I replaced it because of its "clunk" > when > engaging the transmission. The new one has the same clunk. Go figure. I > would only expect a nominal fee for it, but postage will be daunting. > (Portland, Oregon.) > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:25 PM > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Differential help > > Thanks to all who replied about my differential. I've just gotten it out > without killing myself (note to Glen!!). I had replaced all of the zercs > on > > the u-joints and lubricated all of them. None are frozen and none appear > to > > have too much play. None of the crown wheel bolts are loose. > > Sooooooo, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the next move > is > to go with having the differential rebuilt. I will be contacting Ruth at > ABC. Does anyone else have any ideas of contacts/sources for a > differential > > rebuild kit for a '70 3500S differential. > > Thanks again for all of the help. > > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:15 PM > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 > > >> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to >> rovernet at rovernet.ca >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> rovernet-request at rovernet.ca >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." >> >> >> Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic >> to > >> which you are referring. >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover heads (Nash4447 at cs.com) >> 2. Re: Clunking differential (Geff McCarthy) >> 3. Re: Clunking differential (Glen Wilson) >> 4. Re: Clunking differential (Vern Klukas) >> 5. Re: Clunking differential (Eric Russell) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:36:52 EDT >> From: Nash4447 at cs.com >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1, TR8, 87 & up Range Rover >> heads >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Message-ID: <c47.5966f046.37484ac4 at cs.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> Fellas >> >> I have a nice pair of heads for the above applications should anyone be >> interested. They should be hottanked and the valves ground, of course. >> The >> valves are fine so the only parts required would be new stem seals - no >> big >> deal. >> >> $40 for the pair plus shipping or local pickup fine. I am in the Los >> Angeles area. They are aluminum as you know so the fedex ground shipping >> cost >> would not be obscene. >> >> Glenn >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/8e35 > 4a40/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:18:08 -0700 >> From: "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the >> loose >> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I understand >> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate >> it. > >> I >> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. >> >> AvMedSafe >> Geff and Julie McCarthy >> 677 NW Melinda Ave >> Portland OR 97210 >> 503-241-8468 >> 503-799-3809 mobile >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >> On >> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> >> Hi Lance, >> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest >> you >> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side >> that >> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, >> this >> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different >> cars, >> >> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it >> and >> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the heads >> of >> >> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the >> threads. >> >> Barry >> >> >> > >> > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of >> > ABC >> > gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >> > rebuild >> >> > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for >> > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >> > itself, >> > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >> > >> > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on >> > the >> >> > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out of >> > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >> > then >> > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff >> > is >> > the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get >> > into >> >> > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and >> > next >> >> > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and >> > have >> >> > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >> > dropping >> > the half shaft and taking it out". >> > >> > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >> > thing >> > as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about >> > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >> > >> > >> > Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rovernet mailing list >> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> > no-mail: >> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >> 05/21/09 >> 06:22:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:50:03 -0400 >> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <4A170FFB.1040208 at comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" >> >> Geff McCarthy wrote: >> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from the >> > loose >> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I >> > understand >> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will eliminate >> > it. I >> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. >> > >> > AvMedSafe >> > Geff and Julie McCarthy >> > 677 NW Melinda Ave >> > Portland OR 97210 >> > 503-241-8468 >> > 503-799-3809 mobile >> > >> >> Geff, >> >> I think you should triage this situation and AvMedSafe that sucker down >> to Colorado. Lance's life may depend on it, and an extra set of hands is >> always useful when you get into that area around the P6 differential... >> >> Glen >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > >> > On >> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> > >> > Hi Lance, >> > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest >> > you >> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the side >> > that >> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come loose, >> > this >> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on different >> > cars, >> > >> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks it >> > and >> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the >> > heads of >> > >> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the >> > threads. >> > >> > Barry >> > >> > >> > >> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth of >> >> ABC >> >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >> >> rebuild >> >> >> > >> > >> >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for >> >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >> >> itself, >> >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >> >> >> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history on >> >> the >> >> >> > >> > >> >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing out >> >> of >> >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >> >> then >> >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the diff >> >> is >> >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you get >> >> into >> >> >> > >> > >> >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear and >> >> next >> >> >> > >> > >> >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set and >> >> have >> >> >> > >> > >> >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >> >> dropping >> >> the half shaft and taking it out". >> >> >> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >> >> thing >> >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification about >> >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Rovernet mailing list >> >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> >> no-mail: >> >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> > >> > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ---- >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >> > 05/21/09 >> > 06:22:00 >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rovernet mailing list >> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> > no-mail: >> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rovernet mailing list >> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> > no-mail: >> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > >> > >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090522/bbd4 > d53b/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:04:15 -0700 >> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340 at inkspotco.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My >> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble, >> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and >> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you >> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows >> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools, >> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one. >> >> Yours >> Vern >> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: >> >> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from >> > the loose >> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I >> > understand >> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will >> > eliminate it. I >> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. >> > >> > AvMedSafe >> > Geff and Julie McCarthy >> > 677 NW Melinda Ave >> > Portland OR 97210 >> > 503-241-8468 >> > 503-799-3809 mobile >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> > ] On >> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> > >> > Hi Lance, >> > If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >> > suggest you >> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the >> > side that >> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come >> > loose, this >> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on >> > different cars, >> > >> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks >> > it and >> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the >> > heads of >> > >> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the >> > threads. >> > >> > Barry >> > >> > >> >> >> >> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth >> >> of ABC >> >> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >> >> rebuild >> > >> >> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for >> >> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >> >> itself, >> >> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >> >> >> >> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history >> >> on the >> > >> >> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing >> >> out of >> >> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >> >> then >> >> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the >> >> diff is >> >> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you >> >> get into >> > >> >> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear >> >> and next >> > >> >> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set >> >> and have >> > >> >> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >> >> dropping >> >> the half shaft and taking it out". >> >> >> >> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >> >> thing >> >> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification >> >> about >> >> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Rovernet mailing list >> >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> >> no-mail: >> >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > >> > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ---- >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >> > 05/21/09 >> > 06:22:00 >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rovernet mailing list >> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> > mail: >> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rovernet mailing list >> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> > mail: >> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:15:24 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <871787.19677.qm at web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> >> Another reason for rear end "clunking" is a worn "U" joint on one of the >> half-shafts or the propeller shaft. A person has 6 "U" joints to >> consider. > >> That happened with me. >> >> Eric >> >> >> Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada >> Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ >> Webmaster of a variety of sites from: >> http://www.websrus.ca >> >> >> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote: >> >> > From: Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" >> > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> > Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:18 PM >> > My "new" diff also clunks, but only >> > when put into gear. It is from the loose >> > play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. >> > If I understand >> > the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly >> > will eliminate it. I >> > have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in >> > Oregon. >> > >> > AvMedSafe >> > Geff and Julie McCarthy >> > 677 NW Melinda Ave >> > Portland OR 97210 >> > 503-241-8468 >> > 503-799-3809 mobile >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >> > On >> > Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking >> > differential >> > >> > Hi Lance, >> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If you >> > have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I suggest you >> > stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and >> > remove the side that >> > comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have >> > come loose, this >> > is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me >> > on different cars, >> > >> > if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing >> > and cracks it and >> > it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by >> > drilling the heads of >> > >> > the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread >> > locker on the threads. >> > >> > Barry >> > >> > >> > > >> > > I would appreciate some help/deciphering some >> > recommendations Ruth of ABC >> > > gave me in sorting out my differential >> > 'clunking'.? [As part of my rebuild >> > >> > > I replaced my old differential with a newer one which >> > we checked for >> > > 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the >> > differential itself, >> > > but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >> > > >> > > She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem >> > from the history on the >> > >> > > S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes >> > when backing out of >> > > the garage and they just let the car roll close to a >> > stop when they then >> > > put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What >> > happens in the diff is >> > > the drive side (LH)? stub axles takes all the >> > torque and once you get into >> > >> > > the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the >> > drive gear and next >> > >> > > thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go >> > the left set and have >> > >> > > a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It >> > literally means dropping >> > > the half shaft and taking it out". >> > > >> > > I'm not sure what she means by the "stub >> > axle"????Is this the same thing >> > > as the "half shaft"?.???If someone >> > could give me a clarification about >> > > what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >> > > >> > > >> > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,? '70? 3500S >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Rovernet mailing list >> > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > > Here is where you can change your settings such as >> > digest mode or no-mail: >> > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > > Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > >> > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ---- >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release >> > Date: 05/21/09 >> > 06:22:00 >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rovernet mailing list >> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >> > mode or no-mail: >> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rovernet mailing list >> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest >> > mode or no-mail: >> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> > Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> Yahoo! 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Download it now >> http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 24 >> **************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun May 24 03:06:07 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:36:07 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help In-Reply-To: <02A75426743A4F8CA0C7266C248A21AB@Vista> References: <mailman.13.1243026921.13666.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><COL111-DS6FAD51EC8EF8E476A3AB683560@phx.gbl> <001a01c9dbbc$0bbf97d0$233ec770$@net> <02A75426743A4F8CA0C7266C248A21AB@Vista> Message-ID: <4A18F1DF.5090005@ozemail.com.au> Flaw? ..... FLAW?? Can't be, it must be a design feature! Same as Land Rovers. ;-) Cheers Dave South Oz Netspace wrote: > Rovers Always have lots of backlash. > I rate it as a design flaw. > > PVS <snip> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun May 24 14:46:13 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was Spare P6 Differential help now Rover design features :-J Message-ID: <741650.23032.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes,........ feature...... how could we forget the Rover under carriage lubrication and anti-rust system or the concept that Rover should be given male dog names for their propensity to mark their territory .... design feature... :-) Eric Webmaster of The Rover Car Club of Canada Website: http://www.roverclub.ca/ Webmaster of a variety of sites from: http://www.websrus.ca --- On Sun, 5/24/09, David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> wrote: > From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Spare P6 Differential help > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 12:06 AM > Flaw? ..... FLAW?? > Can't be, it must be a design feature! > Same as Land Rovers. > > ;-) > > Cheers > Dave > South Oz > > > Netspace wrote: > > Rovers Always have lots of backlash. > > I rate it as a design flaw. > > > > PVS > > <snip> > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From phing at videotron.ca Mon May 25 00:11:10 2009 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:11:10 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NADA P6 How do I check instrument panel printed circuit board ?? Message-ID: <000e01c9dcee$d5f2dc00$81d89400$@ca> Hi I removed my complete instrument panel to change the speedometer and replace all the panel and warning lights . I must have screwed up the re assembly because I got a neat little "Pfht "accompanied by a puff of smoke from the clock end of the panel when I turned on the ignition . After this minor set back I removed the panel and checked : There is no obvious sign of damage- burnt wires ,scorch marks etc - any where on the panel All the fuses , none had blown and all are OK All the new light bulbs are OK when checked individually in a bulb holder connected across the battery All the individual wires to the instruments , the panel ground connection and the multiplugs are in their correct locations, and are firmly plugged in . The ammeter works , I have not checked the other instruments The dash lights and rheostat work properly with the ignition off and on The head light warning light works properly - when the ignition is OFF[ see below ] The flashing indicator warning lights flash properly. The oil pressure warning light works The clock works However the brake and ignition warning lights don't work The main beam warning light works properly with the ignition OFF .It comes on when the ignition is turned ON and the lights are switched OFF BUT it works properly with ignition ON and the head lights switched ON!! My first thought is that I have blown the ballast resistor across the panel light rheostat . this is in the right area for the observed puff of smoke and could explain why there are no blown fuses ? Is this feasible ? If so what is the spec for a replacement resistor ? Next guess is a problem with the printed circuit board . I assume I would need to pull the panel apart to be able to see and check the circuits . Much of the panel is obscured by the instruments . Can the circuits be repaired with a b lob of solder ?? Before I do any more damage Is there any way of checking that the ignition warning light and brake circuits are OK upstream of the panel warning lights IE is there a live feed into the panel and the problem lies in the in the panel , or is the problem elsewhere ?? May be the panel ground connection, a flimsy looking wire is broken ?? Time is of the essence since we have a local show next weekend and the dash board is a disaster area I would appreciate any comments ASAP Cheers Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090525/f6ac0333/attachment.html> From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon May 25 05:35:28 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 11:35:28 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: North American P5B Owners Free Offer In-Reply-To: <4A1806FE.1090902@att.net> References: <4A1806FE.1090902@att.net> Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A02144088@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> It is a pity I do not have one! Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: sabato 23 maggio 2009 16.24 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] North American P5B Owners Free Offer Hi Netters, If you own a P5B, either Saloon or Coupe, and live in North America, I will send you a pair of genuine Rover P5B cufflinks if you will send me a picture of your car and VIN. This offer is good for the first twelve cars only and Dirk only gets one pair:-) I am betting that there aren't twelve P5B owners in North America. Bill Davis, who just recently joined the list, has a P5B Coupe _LHD_, though he hasn't shared the details as yet. Roverfreeofferly, Kent K. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon May 25 05:36:16 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 11:36:16 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: P5B camper In-Reply-To: <4A183EB9.6040802@att.net> References: <935296187.490601237871471249.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4A1835F7.1060500@ozemail.com.au> <4A183EB9.6040802@att.net> Message-ID: <AD15D6E6287C7B45BFF991A72C84E38A0214408E@E30IYLMJ.risorse.enel> Dear friends, I've seen it. I can' t say i like it very much, but, if it is an unique feature, i could agree. Personally I had a very old Alfa Romeo camprer, probably the first mass produced in italy. I bought it in 1992 more or less, I bought it from a friend who had previously bought it in 1976. The camper was a four places, ome door Laveda roulotte mounted on an Alfa Romeo A 12 van with perkins diesel engine, wich shared partof the machanics with Giulia super. It was sky blue, the only colour available. Sky blue was, at that time, the colour of Laverda Roulottes and this was also the colour of alfa romeo vans used by Societ? autostrade. This engine was also mounted on the Giulia Super diesel, an absolutely unsuccessful car produced in maybe 4500 ones, which made the fastest salloon of the world in his category a mule. Another strange conversion, but a very good remembrance. Best regards, hear you soon, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Kent Kinard Inviato: sabato 23 maggio 2009 20.22 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5B camper Hi Dave, This is a well known car in UK P5 club. I believe it has been heavily modified in addition to the camper conversion. It has an SD1 engine and a ZF22HP gearbox from a Sherpa V8 van. It is known as Wholly Roadworthy. Roverly, Kent K. David Read wrote: > Hi all > A rare beast ;-) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/albertsbite/2495512522 > > Cheers > Dave > South Oz > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From geffandjulie at comcast.net Mon May 25 12:16:11 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:16:11 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential In-Reply-To: <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> Message-ID: <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone needing if for a rebuild. AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Vern Main Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998 Yours Vern Inkspot Type & Design 250 864 5619 Sent from my iPhone On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote: > Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder! > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > ] On > Behalf Of Vern Klukas > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:04 PM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My > experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble, > other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and > destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you > have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows > three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools, > push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one. > > Yours > Vern > On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > >> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from >> the loose >> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I >> understand >> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will >> eliminate it. I >> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. >> >> AvMedSafe >> Geff and Julie McCarthy >> 677 NW Melinda Ave >> Portland OR 97210 >> 503-241-8468 >> 503-799-3809 mobile >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> ] On >> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> >> Hi Lance, >> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >> suggest you >> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the >> side that >> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come >> loose, this >> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on >> different cars, >> >> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks >> it and >> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the >> heads of >> >> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the >> threads. >> >> Barry >> >> >>> >>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth >>> of ABC >>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >>> rebuild >> >>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked for >>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >>> itself, >>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >>> >>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history >>> on the >> >>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing >>> out of >>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >>> then >>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the >>> diff is >>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you >>> get into >> >>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear >>> and next >> >>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set >>> and have >> >>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >>> dropping >>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>> >>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >>> thing >>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification >>> about >>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >>> >>> >>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no-mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> > --- > --- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >> 05/21/09 >> 06:22:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From vern at inkspotco.com Mon May 25 12:37:13 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:37:13 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential In-Reply-To: <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> Message-ID: <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com> Good to know. Yours Vern On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone > needing if > for a rebuild. > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > ] On > Behalf Of Vern Main > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential > > There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is > 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998 > > Yours > Vern > > Inkspot Type & Design > 250 864 5619 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> > wrote: > >> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder! >> >> AvMedSafe >> Geff and Julie McCarthy >> 677 NW Melinda Ave >> Portland OR 97210 >> 503-241-8468 >> 503-799-3809 mobile >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> ] On >> Behalf Of Vern Klukas >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:04 PM >> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> >> More likely the spider gears are worn inside crown gear carrier. My >> experience has been that the pinion & crown gear give no trouble, >> other than the earlier mentioned crown wheel bolts backing out and >> destroying the diff case ;-). But it is very good to know that you >> have a height gauge. Is it the dual purpose one? The manual shows >> three (rather, the 4 cyl manual, I assume the V8 is the same) tools, >> push fit, press fit and the aforementioned dual one. >> >> Yours >> Vern >> On 22-May-09, at 1:18 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: >> >>> My "new" diff also clunks, but only when put into gear. It is from >>> the loose >>> play in the diff itself. I can twist the shaft 10-20 deg. If I >>> understand >>> the book correctly, setting the pinion height correctly will >>> eliminate it. I >>> have a pinion height tool if borrowers need, located in Oregon. >>> >>> AvMedSafe >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>> Portland OR 97210 >>> 503-241-8468 >>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>> ] On >>> Behalf Of Barry & Shirley Lafbery >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:48 AM >>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >>> >>> Hi Lance, >>> If you have a clunking in the diff. on a 3500s I >>> suggest you >>> stop driving it and drop the whole diff unit down and remove the >>> side that >>> comes of and you will find that the crown wheel bolts have come >>> loose, this >>> is a common thing with 3500s. It has happened twice to me on >>> different cars, >>> >>> if you keep driving the head of the bolt hits the casing and cracks >>> it and >>> it is usually none repairable. I solved the problem by drilling the >>> heads of >>> >>> the bolt to install a locking wire and putting thread locker on the >>> threads. >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I would appreciate some help/deciphering some recommendations Ruth >>>> of ABC >>>> gave me in sorting out my differential 'clunking'. [As part of my >>>> rebuild >>> >>>> I replaced my old differential with a newer one which we checked >>>> for >>>> 'tightness', so I'm hoping the answer is not in the differential >>>> itself, >>>> but directly external to it as Ruth suggests below] >>>> >>>> She sent me an email which reads: "The one problem from the history >>>> on the >>> >>>> S is the boys are quite lazy about using the brakes when backing >>>> out of >>>> the garage and they just let the car roll close to a stop when they >>>> then >>>> put it drive and step on the gas pretty good. What happens in the >>>> diff is >>>> the drive side (LH) stub axles takes all the torque and once you >>>> get into >>> >>>> the higher miles it starts to twist the splines in the drive gear >>>> and next >>> >>>> thing you know they snap and you have lost drive. Go the left set >>>> and have >>> >>>> a good feel or a good look at the stub axle. It literally means >>>> dropping >>>> the half shaft and taking it out". >>>> >>>> I'm not sure what she means by the "stub axle"? Is this the same >>>> thing >>>> as the "half shaft"?. If someone could give me a clarification >>>> about >>>> what I'm looking for/at it would be much appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500S >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rovernet mailing list >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>>> no-mail: >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> >>> >>> >> --- >> --- >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: >>> 05/21/09 >>> 06:22:00 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no- >>> mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no- >>> mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From sdibdin at hotmail.com Tue May 26 09:22:17 2009 From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Hotmail) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:22:17 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate In-Reply-To: <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1639150B603C13DB928906B0520@phx.gbl> Hi All I've been checking through the front suspension section of the Rover manual for my 2000 TC and noticed that they have a strengthening plate that mounts behind the inner top link mount and the top of the outer mount. I've checked both sides of the car and apart from the holes on the top of the outer mounts there is no evidence that they were fitted. The holes have no evidence of ever being used and mounts would need replacing or helicoils to make the holes servicable. My question is: Were these actually fitted in production? In your opinion are they required? Thanks in advance, Steven D Steven Dibdin Design Prototyping Manager Smart Design 601 w26 St Suite 1820 New York NY 10001 eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com Cell: 862.684.1166 On May 25, 2009, at 12:37, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote: > Good to know. > > Yours > Vern > On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > >> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone >> needing if >> for a rebuild. >> >> AvMedSafe >> Geff and Julie McCarthy >> 677 NW Melinda Ave >> Portland OR 97210 >> 503-241-8468 >> 503-799-3809 mobile >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >> ] On >> Behalf Of Vern Main >> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM >> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >> >> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is >> 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998 >> >> Yours >> Vern >> >> Inkspot Type & Design >> 250 864 5619 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel cylinder! >>> > From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 26 14:16:08 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:16:08 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1639150B603C13DB928906B0520@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com> <BLU0-SMTP1639150B603C13DB928906B0520@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <D4CA512A-DBC3-4AA3-B6C2-787923906D78@inkspotco.com> Was only fitted to early cars and were dropped probably somewhere around 1966-67. I have seen them on a couple of 1966 cars, the very early (possibly prototype) TC I owned for a while and a SC. Yours Vern On 26-May-09, at 6:22 AM, Hotmail wrote: > Hi All > > I've been checking through the front suspension section of the Rover > manual for my 2000 TC and noticed that they have a strengthening > plate that mounts behind the inner top link mount and the top of the > outer mount. I've checked both sides of the car and apart from the > holes on the top of the outer mounts there is no evidence that they > were fitted. The holes have no evidence of ever being used and > mounts would need replacing or helicoils to make the holes servicable. > > My question is: Were these actually fitted in production? In your > opinion are they required? > > Thanks in advance, > > Steven D > > Steven Dibdin > Design Prototyping Manager > Smart Design > 601 w26 St > Suite 1820 > New York > NY 10001 > eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com > Cell: 862.684.1166 > > On May 25, 2009, at 12:37, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote: > >> Good to know. >> >> Yours >> Vern >> On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote: >> >>> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone >>> needing if >>> for a rebuild. >>> >>> AvMedSafe >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>> Portland OR 97210 >>> 503-241-8468 >>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>> ] On >>> Behalf Of Vern Main >>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM >>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >>> >>> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is >>> 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998 >>> >>> Yours >>> Vern >>> >>> Inkspot Type & Design >>> 250 864 5619 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel >>>> cylinder! >>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From sdibdin at hotmail.com Tue May 26 14:36:09 2009 From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:36:09 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate In-Reply-To: <D4CA512A-DBC3-4AA3-B6C2-787923906D78@inkspotco.com> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com> <BLU0-SMTP1639150B603C13DB928906B0520@phx.gbl> <D4CA512A-DBC3-4AA3-B6C2-787923906D78@inkspotco.com> Message-ID: <BAY106-W8961EA50B5A2986359A3EB0520@phx.gbl> Thanks Vern! I checked a few photos online of the front suspension set up and noticed they didn't have it either. Good to know. Steven -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090526/746d61ad/attachment.html> From geffandjulie at comcast.net Tue May 26 17:44:33 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:44:33 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate In-Reply-To: <D4CA512A-DBC3-4AA3-B6C2-787923906D78@inkspotco.com> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com> <BLU0-SMTP1639150B603C13DB928906B0520@phx.gbl> <D4CA512A-DBC3-4AA3-B6C2-787923906D78@inkspotco.com> Message-ID: <000c01c9de4b$2913b280$7b3b1780$@net> I have a set of strengthener plates that I bought years ago, but never installed. I understood that they were only useful if the car was used very aggressively as perhaps in rally driving. I am not sure which suspension location for which they are intended, but they are shaped to fit. AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Vern Klukas Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:16 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate Was only fitted to early cars and were dropped probably somewhere around 1966-67. I have seen them on a couple of 1966 cars, the very early (possibly prototype) TC I owned for a while and a SC. Yours Vern On 26-May-09, at 6:22 AM, Hotmail wrote: > Hi All > > I've been checking through the front suspension section of the Rover > manual for my 2000 TC and noticed that they have a strengthening > plate that mounts behind the inner top link mount and the top of the > outer mount. I've checked both sides of the car and apart from the > holes on the top of the outer mounts there is no evidence that they > were fitted. The holes have no evidence of ever being used and > mounts would need replacing or helicoils to make the holes servicable. > > My question is: Were these actually fitted in production? In your > opinion are they required? > > Thanks in advance, > > Steven D > > Steven Dibdin > Design Prototyping Manager > Smart Design > 601 w26 St > Suite 1820 > New York > NY 10001 > eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com > Cell: 862.684.1166 > > On May 25, 2009, at 12:37, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote: > >> Good to know. >> >> Yours >> Vern >> On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote: >> >>> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone >>> needing if >>> for a rebuild. >>> >>> AvMedSafe >>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>> Portland OR 97210 >>> 503-241-8468 >>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>> ] On >>> Behalf Of Vern Main >>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM >>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >>> >>> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is >>> 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998 >>> >>> Yours >>> Vern >>> >>> Inkspot Type & Design >>> 250 864 5619 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel >>>> cylinder! >>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From vern at inkspotco.com Tue May 26 17:50:44 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:50:44 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate In-Reply-To: <000c01c9de4b$2913b280$7b3b1780$@net> References: <COL111-DS6FBE0C8355E500D9A356583560@phx.gbl> <DD1EBD2E590D46E88B0D5044289AF732@ChloePC> <005301c9db1a$6d0de6b0$4729b410$@net> <E3FFB7A0-A567-47CE-955A-4DAB4BC4A340@inkspotco.com> <001901c9dbbb$a1c61390$e5523ab0$@net> <DD6CB520-321C-42EA-9449-ECEAD442E2AF@inkspotco.com> <003201c9dd54$1f72fa30$5e58ee90$@net> <DD13C022-9FD1-4DBB-92B8-8D6DFA48C387@inkspotco.com> <BLU0-SMTP1639150B603C13DB928906B0520@phx.gbl> <D4CA512A-DBC3-4AA3-B6C2-787923906D78@inkspotco.com> <000c01c9de4b$2913b280$7b3b1780$@net> Message-ID: <28B3248A-78B7-4486-88CB-2EA11B3FE7CD@inkspotco.com> I think you have the stiffeners for the lower link of the front suspension, not the bits Steven is talking about. Steven's question was about some parts that were fitted to the first production cars and then dropped in later production. Yours Vern On 26-May-09, at 2:44 PM, Geff McCarthy wrote: > I have a set of strengthener plates that I bought years ago, but never > installed. I understood that they were only useful if the car was > used very > aggressively as perhaps in rally driving. I am not sure which > suspension > location for which they are intended, but they are shaped to fit. > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca > ] On > Behalf Of Vern Klukas > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:16 AM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Top link strengthening plate > > Was only fitted to early cars and were dropped probably somewhere > around 1966-67. I have seen them on a couple of 1966 cars, the very > early (possibly prototype) TC I owned for a while and a SC. > > Yours > Vern > On 26-May-09, at 6:22 AM, Hotmail wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> I've been checking through the front suspension section of the Rover >> manual for my 2000 TC and noticed that they have a strengthening >> plate that mounts behind the inner top link mount and the top of the >> outer mount. I've checked both sides of the car and apart from the >> holes on the top of the outer mounts there is no evidence that they >> were fitted. The holes have no evidence of ever being used and >> mounts would need replacing or helicoils to make the holes >> servicable. >> >> My question is: Were these actually fitted in production? In your >> opinion are they required? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Steven D >> >> Steven Dibdin >> Design Prototyping Manager >> Smart Design >> 601 w26 St >> Suite 1820 >> New York >> NY 10001 >> eMail Steven.Dibdin at smartdesignworldwide.com >> Cell: 862.684.1166 >> >> On May 25, 2009, at 12:37, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote: >> >>> Good to know. >>> >>> Yours >>> Vern >>> On 25-May-09, at 9:16 AM, Geff McCarthy wrote: >>> >>>> I checked and under the rust is 605004. I would lend it to anyone >>>> needing if >>>> for a rebuild. >>>> >>>> AvMedSafe >>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy >>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave >>>> Portland OR 97210 >>>> 503-241-8468 >>>> 503-799-3809 mobile >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca >>>> ] On >>>> Behalf Of Vern Main >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:09 AM >>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Clunking differential >>>> >>>> There should be a part number on it somewhere. The dual use one is >>>> 605004. The other two numbers are 600299 & 601998 >>>> >>>> Yours >>>> Vern >>>> >>>> Inkspot Type & Design >>>> 250 864 5619 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 23-May-09, at 8:32, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry, I don't know which it is. It is a huge, heavy steel >>>>> cylinder! >>>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From vern at inkspotco.com Thu May 28 01:02:08 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:02:08 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Paging Ben Rodgers In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1844C7DC0E541CC3B0465395630@phx.gbl> References: <60cf9fc10905061927y3cf22d0am9cd662a28402e13e@mail.gmail.com> <60cf9fc10905102025ya8a6d04n4287d28707174de2@mail.gmail.com> <BLU0-SMTP1844C7DC0E541CC3B0465395630@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <2B5DC401-C801-4404-BB73-41E15383BE33@inkspotco.com> This is a request for Ben to get a hold of me. I'm trying to deliver your newest edition of the Roverview, and I keep get a bounce off your e-mail address. Yours Vern vern at inkspotco.com On 11-May-09, at 4:17 AM, BEN RODGERS wrote: > Hi Kevin > The car doesn't look too bad in the photos, just a pity we > are too far apart or I'd be interested in it. The 71 is a series 2 > and quite rare just over 200 were produced. It has a few nice > features the early TC lacked. Same dash and gauges as the P6B and > the spare wheel can be carried on the trunk lid. What condition and > colour is the interior?, and what mileage? I have a TC Series Two. > that originally came from Germany, if interested you can see photo > on my web page listed below. > Best luck in finding a buyer. > Ben (irishrover) > Visit our website and blog at > www.irishroversbooks.com > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20090527/fcefbc85/attachment.html> From twinklsun at yahoo.com Thu May 28 12:12:43 2009 From: twinklsun at yahoo.com (twinklsun) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Finding a new home for my 80 Message-ID: <428096.57779.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Long time, guys. I'm at a crossroads and it's time to consider giving my Rover a new home. Grad school is coming up and we have an abundance of stuff I don't want to have to move across the countryside. The car's more than just stuff, and the more I see her in the driveway the less I like the idea, but it's on the list. (We rolled her out two days ago for some sun and a wash. She's been garaged for the entire time she's been here.) If there's anyone out there who would give her a good home and not kill her to feed a larger beast, I'm open to adopting her out. I'm asking what I paid, $1500, and that includes the books and two bottles of neatsfoot oil for the leather. Just drop me a line if you want more info. Laine in Michigan. From RoverP6 at gmx.de Fri May 29 10:07:05 2009 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet members References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> Message-ID: <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive? Rudiger www.RoverP6.info From cort_maryann at charter.net Fri May 29 13:50:38 2009 From: cort_maryann at charter.net (cort_maryann at charter.net) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:50:38 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Finding a new home for my 80 References: <428096.57779.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003801c9e085$fda040e0$dff2834b@DELL5150> Laine; Is it a P4 80 ? If so I would like more info. Thanks Cort ----- Original Message ----- From: "twinklsun" <twinklsun at yahoo.com> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Finding a new home for my 80 > > Long time, guys. > > I'm at a crossroads and it's time to consider giving my Rover a new home. > Grad school is coming up and we have an abundance of stuff I don't want to > have to move across the countryside. The car's more than just stuff, and > the more I see her in the driveway the less I like the idea, but it's on > the list. (We rolled her out two days ago for some sun and a wash. She's > been garaged for the entire time she's been here.) > > If there's anyone out there who would give her a good home and not kill > her to feed a larger beast, I'm open to adopting her out. > > I'm asking what I paid, $1500, and that includes the books and two bottles > of neatsfoot oil for the leather. > > Just drop me a line if you want more info. > > Laine in Michigan. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From vmitps at netspace.net.au Fri May 29 17:42:40 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 07:42:40 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernetmembers In-Reply-To: <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> Message-ID: <4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista> I live in Tas and have never heard of it... PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernetmembers > Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive? > > > Rudiger > www.RoverP6.info > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From wattsclassiccars at bigpond.com Sat May 30 02:53:07 2009 From: wattsclassiccars at bigpond.com (Ken Watts) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:53:07 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36 References: <mailman.7.1243612814.23387.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <78DBDDFBEE344B7ABBB56A5FD684FBDF@PC227331053064> Hi The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania, as far as I know has not existed for probably about 10 years. Ken Launceston Tasmania Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 2:00 AM Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36 > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to > which you are referring. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Finding a new home for my 80 (twinklsun) > 2. Request to our Australian Rovernet members (RoverP6 at gmx.de) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: twinklsun <twinklsun at yahoo.com> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Finding a new home for my 80 > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Message-ID: <428096.57779.qm at web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Long time, guys. > > I'm at a crossroads and it's time to consider giving my Rover a new home. > Grad school is coming up and we have an abundance of stuff I don't want to > have to move across the countryside. The car's more than just stuff, and > the more I see her in the driveway the less I like the idea, but it's on > the list. (We rolled her out two days ago for some sun and a wash. She's > been garaged for the entire time she's been here.) > > If there's anyone out there who would give her a good home and not kill > her to feed a larger beast, I'm open to adopting her out. > > I'm asking what I paid, $1500, and that includes the books and two bottles > of neatsfoot oil for the leather. > > Just drop me a line if you want more info. > > Laine in Michigan. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200 > From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet > members > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7 at rw> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive? > > > Rudiger > www.RoverP6.info > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36 > **************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.44/2140 - Release Date: 05/28/09 18:09:00 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1896 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sat May 30 03:14:47 2009 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 09:14:47 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36 References: <mailman.7.1243612814.23387.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <78DBDDFBEE344B7ABBB56A5FD684FBDF@PC227331053064> Message-ID: <265B5B61DF154A198A313D13934315E6@rw> Thanks for this info, Ken Regards from Germany, Rudiger www.RoverP6.info -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Ken Watts" <wattsclassiccars at bigpond.com> An: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Mai 2009 08:53 Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36 > Hi > > The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania, as far as I know has not > existed for probably about 10 years. > > Ken > > Launceston Tasmania Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca> > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 2:00 AM > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36 > > >> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to >> rovernet at rovernet.ca >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> rovernet-request at rovernet.ca >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." >> >> >> Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the >> topic to which you are referring. >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Finding a new home for my 80 (twinklsun) >> 2. Request to our Australian Rovernet members (RoverP6 at gmx.de) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT) >> From: twinklsun <twinklsun at yahoo.com> >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Finding a new home for my 80 >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Message-ID: <428096.57779.qm at web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Long time, guys. >> >> I'm at a crossroads and it's time to consider giving my Rover a new >> home. Grad school is coming up and we have an abundance of stuff I >> don't want to have to move across the countryside. The car's more >> than just stuff, and the more I see her in the driveway the less I >> like the idea, but it's on the list. (We rolled her out two days >> ago for some sun and a wash. She's been garaged for the entire time >> she's been here.) >> >> If there's anyone out there who would give her a good home and not >> kill her to feed a larger beast, I'm open to adopting her out. >> >> I'm asking what I paid, $1500, and that includes the books and two >> bottles of neatsfoot oil for the leather. >> >> Just drop me a line if you want more info. >> >> Laine in Michigan. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200 >> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de> >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian >> Rovernet >> members >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7 at rw> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive? >> >> >> Rudiger >> www.RoverP6.info >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 36 >> **************************************** > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.44/2140 - Release Date: > 05/28/09 18:09:00 > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 1896 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Sat May 30 07:27:15 2009 From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet members In-Reply-To: <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> Message-ID: <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200, you wrote: >Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive? No Rudiger. Many Rover owners in Tasmania are members of the RCCA, some may also be members of other interstate Rover clubs, but I know we have around 12 members here at the moment including I. In April I relocated to Tasmania from Melbourne, and now live on the East Coast in a place called Little Swanport. At that time I got myself a new beastie, a 2003 MGZT Tourer. It is of course based on the Rover 75 Tourer, but is a little more of a driver's car and a little better performing and much better handling. I still have Rover 800 Sterling and the old 4 litre manual SE which will go into storage for a few years while undergoing restoration work. I am planning (with the help of other local members) a Tasmanian Rove for Easter 2011. There is a car ferry from Melbourne to northern Tasmania, so there will be members coming from Victoria to get together with our Tasmanian members for a drive around the island state. Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Sat May 30 07:28:08 2009 From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:28:08 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernetmembers In-Reply-To: <4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista> Message-ID: <o06225ltukpn2gg77go4c319p5ouqebd97@4ax.com> On Sat, 30 May 2009 07:42:40 +1000, you wrote: >I live in Tas and have never heard of it... > >PVS Where abouts? I am up on the East Coast at Little Swanport. Cheers, Peter H From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 30 07:40:42 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:40:42 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our AustralianRovernetmembers In-Reply-To: <o06225ltukpn2gg77go4c319p5ouqebd97@4ax.com> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista> <o06225ltukpn2gg77go4c319p5ouqebd97@4ax.com> Message-ID: <875818E6F20643248A901D1FF840741B@Vista> Hobart, as is Mr Risely with the blue 105. Have also seen a decrepit 90, a beautiful 100, and a few immaculate P6Bs. One other 2000. At St Marys you have a white P5 with Ian Summers, and he has a TC/SF waiting for restore if you are interested. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Huttemeier" <peterhut at melbpc.org.au> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our AustralianRovernetmembers > On Sat, 30 May 2009 07:42:40 +1000, you wrote: > >>I live in Tas and have never heard of it... >> >>PVS > > Where abouts? I am up on the East Coast at Little Swanport. > > > Cheers, > > Peter H > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 30 08:04:17 2009 From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:04:17 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet members In-Reply-To: <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> Message-ID: <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com> fantastic idea Peter book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then! hope it is all going well for you in Tassie Cheers Gianni On 30/05/2009, at 9:27 PM, Peter Huttemeier wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200, you wrote: > >> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive? > > No Rudiger. > > Many Rover owners in Tasmania are members of the RCCA, some may also > be members of other interstate Rover clubs, but I know we have around > 12 members here at the moment including I. > > In April I relocated to Tasmania from Melbourne, and now live on the > East Coast in a place called Little Swanport. > > At that time I got myself a new beastie, a 2003 MGZT Tourer. It is of > course based on the Rover 75 Tourer, but is a little more of a > driver's car and a little better performing and much better handling. > > I still have Rover 800 Sterling and the old 4 litre manual SE which > will go into storage for a few years while undergoing restoration > work. > > I am planning (with the help of other local members) a Tasmanian Rove > for Easter 2011. There is a car ferry from Melbourne to northern > Tasmania, so there will be members coming from Victoria to get > together with our Tasmanian members for a drive around the island > state. > > > > Cheers, > > Peter Huttemeier > Webmaster > Rover Car Club of Australia Inc > http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat May 30 08:07:01 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:07:01 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernetmembers In-Reply-To: <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <151A6946841445CBBE4476F207C33464@Vista> What happened to the manual OD P5... PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernetmembers > fantastic idea Peter > book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then! > hope it is all going well for you in Tassie > Cheers Gianni > > > On 30/05/2009, at 9:27 PM, Peter Huttemeier wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200, you wrote: >> >>> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive? >> >> No Rudiger. >> >> Many Rover owners in Tasmania are members of the RCCA, some may also >> be members of other interstate Rover clubs, but I know we have around >> 12 members here at the moment including I. >> >> In April I relocated to Tasmania from Melbourne, and now live on the >> East Coast in a place called Little Swanport. >> >> At that time I got myself a new beastie, a 2003 MGZT Tourer. It is of >> course based on the Rover 75 Tourer, but is a little more of a >> driver's car and a little better performing and much better handling. >> >> I still have Rover 800 Sterling and the old 4 litre manual SE which >> will go into storage for a few years while undergoing restoration >> work. >> >> I am planning (with the help of other local members) a Tasmanian Rove >> for Easter 2011. There is a car ferry from Melbourne to northern >> Tasmania, so there will be members coming from Victoria to get >> together with our Tasmanian members for a drive around the island >> state. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter Huttemeier >> Webmaster >> Rover Car Club of Australia Inc >> http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- >> mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Sat May 30 08:35:42 2009 From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:35:42 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet members In-Reply-To: <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <rg9225dircebt8m7hkss9i0o8incpefu5n@4ax.com> On Sat, 30 May 2009 22:04:17 +1000, you wrote: >fantastic idea Peter >book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then! >hope it is all going well for you in Tassie It has not been officially announced as a club event yet Gianni, but the committee has signed off on it and asked me to get the organisation started. A few other Tassie members have offered to help, and we have in fact just booked the lawns of Parliament House in Hobart for a formal display on Easter Saturday. As I (or we including the navigatrix) are the holders of the Navigation Trial trophy, I will also be organising a little trial for some spirited competition!! Hehe. The tour will have to encompass our Muirland Homestead, I think the site of 20 or so Rovers (and almost Rovers) on the property with the sheep, ducks and geese will just be wonderful. :-) Cheers, Peter H From peterhut at melbpc.org.au Sat May 30 08:38:42 2009 From: peterhut at melbpc.org.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:38:42 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our AustralianRovernetmembers In-Reply-To: <875818E6F20643248A901D1FF840741B@Vista> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><4E94594F88BD40459521A0458A919476@Vista> <o06225ltukpn2gg77go4c319p5ouqebd97@4ax.com> <875818E6F20643248A901D1FF840741B@Vista> Message-ID: <f2a2251ukrqb3ptjk5k62v7dmcaogoivck@4ax.com> On Sat, 30 May 2009 21:40:42 +1000, you wrote: >Hobart, as is Mr Risely with the blue 105. >Have also seen a decrepit 90, a beautiful 100, and a few immaculate P6Bs. >One other 2000. >At St Marys you have a white P5 with Ian Summers, and he has a TC/SF waiting >for restore if you are interested. I think I will have my hands full with one restorer thanks!! :-) But always happy to meet any Rover owners in this part of the country. If you are coming up this way give me a buzz, and drop in. Cheers, Peter H From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 30 19:24:17 2009 From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:24:17 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet members In-Reply-To: <rg9225dircebt8m7hkss9i0o8incpefu5n@4ax.com> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com> <E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw> <2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com> <rg9225dircebt8m7hkss9i0o8incpefu5n@4ax.com> Message-ID: <E24BAB28-AF1D-4705-97F4-D06B7AFE8983@bigpond.com> sounds even better now Peter looking forward to it even more now Cheers Gianni Gianni D'Ortenzio 1948 P3 4 light 1949 P3 6 light 1969 P5BC 1971 P6B 2004 Landrover Defender On 30/05/2009, at 10:35 PM, Peter Huttemeier wrote: > On Sat, 30 May 2009 22:04:17 +1000, you wrote: > >> fantastic idea Peter >> book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then! >> hope it is all going well for you in Tassie > > > It has not been officially announced as a club event yet Gianni, but > the committee has signed off on it and asked me to get the > organisation started. A few other Tassie members have offered to help, > and we have in fact just booked the lawns of Parliament House in > Hobart for a formal display on Easter Saturday. > > As I (or we including the navigatrix) are the holders of the > Navigation Trial trophy, I will also be organising a little trial for > some spirited competition!! Hehe. > > The tour will have to encompass our Muirland Homestead, I think the > site of 20 or so Rovers (and almost Rovers) on the property with the > sheep, ducks and geese will just be wonderful. :-) > > > Cheers, > > Peter H > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 30 19:32:50 2009 From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:32:50 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernetmembers In-Reply-To: <151A6946841445CBBE4476F207C33464@Vista> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com> <151A6946841445CBBE4476F207C33464@Vista> Message-ID: <078CBBF1-84D2-4711-8E84-CD8DC5FE0D7C@bigpond.com> long story... local fellow lusted after it and kept annoying me about selling it to him one moment of weakness (with a pile of bills in front of me... it is really expensive having country kids living in Melbourne) and an offer of twice what it owed me and he took it off my hands and has proceeded to run it into the ground! I can't bear to see it about town, it is falling apart and he prides himself on running it without maintenance and then crowing about how long it goes for without putting a spanner to it. In fairness he has had a P5 as his daily drive for more than 30 years and loves them but not in a classical caring way! when $ improved, I bought the P5BC and have since spent buckets more than the o/d manual P5mkII coupe cost me, converting it to manual first and then re-engine and re-brake, re-suspension, re-steering etc... oh yes I almost forgot...regretting it! Cheers Gianni Gianni D'Ortenzio 1948 P3 4 light 1949 P3 6 light 1969 P5BC 1971 P6B 2004 Landrover Defender On 30/05/2009, at 10:07 PM, Netspace wrote: > What happened to the manual OD P5... > > PVS > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com > > > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca > > > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian > Rovernetmembers > > >> fantastic idea Peter >> book me in, I am bound to have at least one running car by then! >> hope it is all going well for you in Tassie >> Cheers Gianni >> >> >> On 30/05/2009, at 9:27 PM, Peter Huttemeier wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:07:05 +0200, you wrote: >>> >>>> Is "The Classic Rover Car Club of Tasmania " still alive? >>> >>> No Rudiger. >>> >>> Many Rover owners in Tasmania are members of the RCCA, some may also >>> be members of other interstate Rover clubs, but I know we have >>> around >>> 12 members here at the moment including I. >>> >>> In April I relocated to Tasmania from Melbourne, and now live on the >>> East Coast in a place called Little Swanport. >>> >>> At that time I got myself a new beastie, a 2003 MGZT Tourer. It is >>> of >>> course based on the Rover 75 Tourer, but is a little more of a >>> driver's car and a little better performing and much better >>> handling. >>> >>> I still have Rover 800 Sterling and the old 4 litre manual SE which >>> will go into storage for a few years while undergoing restoration >>> work. >>> >>> I am planning (with the help of other local members) a Tasmanian >>> Rove >>> for Easter 2011. There is a car ferry from Melbourne to northern >>> Tasmania, so there will be members coming from Victoria to get >>> together with our Tasmanian members for a drive around the island >>> state. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter Huttemeier >>> Webmaster >>> Rover Car Club of Australia Inc >>> http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rovernet mailing list >>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >>> no- mail: >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here is the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From giannid at bigpond.com Sat May 30 19:41:27 2009 From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:41:27 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 coupe rear window trim In-Reply-To: <151A6946841445CBBE4476F207C33464@Vista> References: <d5c.3c24f64e.373a7750@aol.com><E32E7AF626404003B45800CA846BA9B7@rw><2i52255ivgkgff1jvm35nvv96m269ll2da@4ax.com> <CD1EF5E5-1F8D-441C-9B7E-AC9CFA9EF91A@bigpond.com> <151A6946841445CBBE4476F207C33464@Vista> Message-ID: <B80F5BC4-6CD0-400F-B125-B37F96F28B3A@bigpond.com> I have to replace the trim on my rear window as it fell off at high speed and disappeared! it had been put back on with a new rubber but instead of clips and proper fixings there was a pile of glue and mastic! have sourced new trim and made the necessary little bolts to hold the trim on to the C pillar the manual is silent on the type of clips needed for the coupe, only illustrating those for the saloon are they the same? how do you go about fitting the trim? I looked at it and it seems that nothing fits together easily can the right clips be sources for the coupe if they are different? have lots of saloon fittings but I can't seem to make them work Cheers Gianni Gianni D'Ortenzio 1948 P3 4 light 1949 P3 6 light 1969 P5BC 1971 P6B 2004 Landrover Defender From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Sat May 30 22:51:36 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:51:36 EDT Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernet members Message-ID: <ce8.5548a435.37534ab8@aol.com> Hi All, Great idea. How about doing it around Tassie Targa time, One day I will Get down there for that, combining it with a Rove would be wonderful. Trying to get enough things done so that I can get up to the "Cootha Classic" this afternoon. There was a P6b running at the last Speed on Tweed. Would like to see that on Mt. Cootha. Regards, MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the US or outside the US is fine. ----- Original Message ----- From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Request to our Australian Rovernetmembers Hi All, Great idea. How about doing it around Tassie Targa time, One day I will Get down there for that, combining it with a Rove would be wonderful. Trying to get enough things done so that I can get up to the "Cootha Classic" this afternoon. There was a P6b running at the last Speed on Tweed. Would like to see that on Mt. Cootha. 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