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From raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com Mon Nov 2 05:37:52 2009 From: raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com (Ray Wilkins) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:37:52 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B In-Reply-To: <000001ca5918$4753c580$d5fb5080$@wilkins@bigpond.com> References: <000001ca5918$4753c580$d5fb5080$@wilkins@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <000901ca5ba8$894208c0$9bc61a40$@wilkins@bigpond.com> Thanks to all who responded to my post. It never ceases to amaze me that something as simple as a flat/dead battery can cause thoughts of much greater problems. My problem was indeed a dead battery as I had left it in the car connected for months on end and a few times had to recharge it but then let it go flat again. I suppose I was put off guard by the fact that I attempted to jump start it using leads attached to my Land Rover with no success. It does seem that even leads can create a weak connection and thus not provide enough voltage to start the car. I was lent a jump starter pack that started it straight away. My question now is mainly directed to the Australian members of the list but only in terms of what battery to buy. I am aware that with the battery being in the boot(trunk) there is some small current loss between it and the starter motor and that as my car has air con and a modern radio the battery may need to be more 'heavy duty'. What battery or what type have other members found to be suitable. Is just a normal 'heavy duty' battery OK? Also my car has the original alternator in it which I believe is only 45amps. Is this OK for modern radio etc? or should I look at getting that upgraded as well? Again you help will be most appreciated. Ray Wilkins 1976 P6B Melbourne, Australia From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Ray Wilkins Sent: Friday, 30 October 2009 3:20 PM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B I am looking for some help please. My P6B has been ignored lately mainly due to household renovations although I have started her up periodically. There has been some issues with the battery which seemed to lose all its charge during these periods of neglect but on charging up seemed OK. That was until recently when it didn't appear to charge up at all. I attempted to start the car with jumper leads from my Freelander but all I got was a loud rat-a-tat-a-tat noise (does that make sense?). I thought that might be the starter motor; does that sound right? The only other contributing factor might be that a while ago I had trouble starting the car (no sound at all) and I traced it to the inhibitor switch on the gearbox. I had a spare gearbox and took the switch off that and it appeared to solve the problem. I hope that some of you wise gentlemen may have some ideas for me. Thanks. Ray Wilkins 1976 P6B Melbourne, Australia No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2468 - Release Date: 10/30/09 06:49:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091102/69704983/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Mon Nov 2 05:52:31 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:52:31 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B In-Reply-To: <000901ca5ba8$894208c0$9bc61a40$@wilkins@bigpond.com> References: <000001ca5918$4753c580$d5fb5080$@wilkins@bigpond.com> <000901ca5ba8$894208c0$9bc61a40$@wilkins@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <35EEB6D1C9D741F5991DB25FB7270FDB@Vista> If you aren't running a separate amplifier on the radio you don't need an alternator upgrade. I have had reasonable service from the yellow Century batteries, can get at Autobarn or Supercheap. I currently have a heavier current one that is doing well, but can't remember type. Can check tomorrow if required. It came from Supercheap. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Wilkins To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B Thanks to all who responded to my post. It never ceases to amaze me that something as simple as a flat/dead battery can cause thoughts of much greater problems. My problem was indeed a dead battery as I had left it in the car connected for months on end and a few times had to recharge it but then let it go flat again. I suppose I was put off guard by the fact that I attempted to jump start it using leads attached to my Land Rover with no success. It does seem that even leads can create a weak connection and thus not provide enough voltage to start the car. I was lent a jump starter pack that started it straight away. My question now is mainly directed to the Australian members of the list but only in terms of what battery to buy. I am aware that with the battery being in the boot(trunk) there is some small current loss between it and the starter motor and that as my car has air con and a modern radio the battery may need to be more 'heavy duty'. What battery or what type have other members found to be suitable. Is just a normal 'heavy duty' battery OK? Also my car has the original alternator in it which I believe is only 45amps. Is this OK for modern radio etc? or should I look at getting that upgraded as well? Again you help will be most appreciated. Ray Wilkins 1976 P6B Melbourne, Australia From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Ray Wilkins Sent: Friday, 30 October 2009 3:20 PM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B I am looking for some help please. My P6B has been ignored lately mainly due to household renovations although I have started her up periodically. There has been some issues with the battery which seemed to lose all its charge during these periods of neglect but on charging up seemed OK. That was until recently when it didn't appear to charge up at all. I attempted to start the car with jumper leads from my Freelander but all I got was a loud rat-a-tat-a-tat noise (does that make sense?). I thought that might be the starter motor; does that sound right? The only other contributing factor might be that a while ago I had trouble starting the car (no sound at all) and I traced it to the inhibitor switch on the gearbox. I had a spare gearbox and took the switch off that and it appeared to solve the problem. I hope that some of you wise gentlemen may have some ideas for me. Thanks. Ray Wilkins 1976 P6B Melbourne, Australia No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2468 - Release Date: 10/30/09 06:49:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091102/9db76879/attachment.html> From roger.matheson at bigpond.com Mon Nov 2 06:36:29 2009 From: roger.matheson at bigpond.com (roger matheson) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:36:29 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B References: <000001ca5918$4753c580$d5fb5080$@wilkins@bigpond.com> <000901ca5ba8$894208c0$9bc61a40$@wilkins@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <003801ca5bb0$b85e9b20$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf> Hi Ray Speaking from a slightly warmer climate than Melbourne, batteries generally hate the cold and I recommend you leave for a place further away from Antarctica. I had finished preparing a car that had been off the road for a while for annual inspection. Got in started immediately, off we went - steering fine - brakes great - tuning spot on - car clean - windows spotless etc. Engine stopped half way there. Pulled over, opened bonnet, checked all the connections, all fine. Got in, car started, (although with a slightly discernable sneer), drove to inspection, slightly panicky about being late. Demonstrated lights for inspector (who I knew from many years of custom at his business). "Park over there and I'll take it out for the brake test". Engine died like a knife through my heart. Nothing. Prayer didn't work. Pleading to all mystical beings didn't work. Inspector opened the boot as I got out mumbling something about a solenoid. He looked at me shaking his head slowly. "Roger, you are a real worry". He disappeared into the boot again to tighten the battery terminal that I had pushed on but not clamped up. How embarrassing Batteries often last one second longer than the guarantee. Buy the versions that you can top up with distilled water not maintenance free types. These are generally heavy duty Keep the terminals clean. Check the charging rate and fluid rate when servicing. The voltage drop can be fixed by putting the engine in the back as demonstrated by other manufacturers. Get the heaviest of a size that fits snugly in the space. Cheers Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Wilkins To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B Thanks to all who responded to my post. It never ceases to amaze me that something as simple as a flat/dead battery can cause thoughts of much greater problems. My problem was indeed a dead battery as I had left it in the car connected for months on end and a few times had to recharge it but then let it go flat again. I suppose I was put off guard by the fact that I attempted to jump start it using leads attached to my Land Rover with no success. It does seem that even leads can create a weak connection and thus not provide enough voltage to start the car. I was lent a jump starter pack that started it straight away. My question now is mainly directed to the Australian members of the list but only in terms of what battery to buy. I am aware that with the battery being in the boot(trunk) there is some small current loss between it and the starter motor and that as my car has air con and a modern radio the battery may need to be more 'heavy duty'. What battery or what type have other members found to be suitable. Is just a normal 'heavy duty' battery OK? Also my car has the original alternator in it which I believe is only 45amps. Is this OK for modern radio etc? or should I look at getting that upgraded as well? Again you help will be most appreciated. Ray Wilkins 1976 P6B Melbourne, Australia From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Ray Wilkins Sent: Friday, 30 October 2009 3:20 PM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B I am looking for some help please. My P6B has been ignored lately mainly due to household renovations although I have started her up periodically. There has been some issues with the battery which seemed to lose all its charge during these periods of neglect but on charging up seemed OK. That was until recently when it didn't appear to charge up at all. I attempted to start the car with jumper leads from my Freelander but all I got was a loud rat-a-tat-a-tat noise (does that make sense?). I thought that might be the starter motor; does that sound right? The only other contributing factor might be that a while ago I had trouble starting the car (no sound at all) and I traced it to the inhibitor switch on the gearbox. I had a spare gearbox and took the switch off that and it appeared to solve the problem. I hope that some of you wise gentlemen may have some ideas for me. Thanks. Ray Wilkins 1976 P6B Melbourne, Australia No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2468 - Release Date: 10/30/09 06:49:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.44/2475 - Release Date: 11/01/09 19:39:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091102/d4df72f0/attachment-0001.html> From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Mon Nov 2 06:46:00 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:46:00 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B In-Reply-To: <35EEB6D1C9D741F5991DB25FB7270FDB@Vista> References: <000001ca5918$4753c580$d5fb5080$@wilkins@bigpond.com> <000901ca5ba8$894208c0$9bc61a40$@wilkins@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <COL114-W39361BFCBE4E861F22413FDEB30@phx.gbl> Battery care and maintance are often more important than high CA's...the very finest battery still needs care and if it does not get it ...it will fail . Regards Dennis From: vmitps at netspace.net.au To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:52:31 +1100 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B If you aren't running a separate amplifier on the radio you don't need an alternator upgrade. I have had reasonable service from the yellow Century batteries, can get at Autobarn or Supercheap. I currently have a heavier current one that is doing well, but can't remember type. Can check tomorrow if required. It came from Supercheap. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Wilkins To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B Thanks to all who responded to my post. It never ceases to amaze me that something as simple as a flat/dead battery can cause thoughts of much greater problems. My problem was indeed a dead battery as I had left it in the car connected for months on end and a few times had to recharge it but then let it go flat again. I suppose I was put off guard by the fact that I attempted to jump start it using leads attached to my Land Rover with no success. It does seem that even leads can create a weak connection and thus not provide enough voltage to start the car. I was lent a jump starter pack that started it straight away. My question now is mainly directed to the Australian members of the list but only in terms of what battery to buy. I am aware that with the battery being in the boot(trunk) there is some small current loss between it and the starter motor and that as my car has air con and a modern radio the battery may need to be more ?heavy duty?. What battery or what type have other members found to be suitable. Is just a normal ?heavy duty? battery OK? Also my car has the original alternator in it which I believe is only 45amps. Is this OK for modern radio etc? or should I look at getting that upgraded as well? Again you help will be most appreciated. Ray Wilkins 1976 P6B Melbourne, Australia From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Ray Wilkins Sent: Friday, 30 October 2009 3:20 PM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble starting P6B I am looking for some help please. My P6B has been ignored lately mainly due to household renovations although I have started her up periodically. There has been some issues with the battery which seemed to lose all its charge during these periods of neglect but on charging up seemed OK. That was until recently when it didn?t appear to charge up at all. I attempted to start the car with jumper leads from my Freelander but all I got was a loud rat-a-tat-a-tat noise (does that make sense?). I thought that might be the starter motor; does that sound right? The only other contributing factor might be that a while ago I had trouble starting the car (no sound at all) and I traced it to the inhibitor switch on the gearbox. I had a spare gearbox and took the switch off that and it appeared to solve the problem. I hope that some of you wise gentlemen may have some ideas for me. Thanks. Ray Wilkins 1976 P6B Melbourne, Australia No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2468 - Release Date: 10/30/09 06:49:00 _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ CDN College or University student? Get Windows 7 for only $39.99 before Jan 3! Buy it now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691636 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091102/473ec4df/attachment.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Mon Nov 2 07:09:52 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:09:52 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Batteries. In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1257161802.12593.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.1.1257161802.12593.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W105055822AEEA6D90C333E8EB30@phx.gbl> I have run Century 11 plate batteries in my Rover over the years, and find they last about 6 years. My Rover is a 2000 auto, which has a generator, and a radio, but no airconditioning. Battery in the engine bay. I have always thought on doing up the leads that it is better not to have them too tight. That way if smoke starts to escape from the Lucas wires, the battery can be disconneced quickly without a spanner, which removes the energy source for the smoke which can then be rectified before all the smoke escapes, or worse catches on fire. James. _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pc-scout/default.aspx?CBID=wl&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_pcscout:112009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091102/cf50fee1/attachment.html> From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Mon Nov 2 07:37:03 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:07:03 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fusible links [WAS: Batteries.] In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W105055822AEEA6D90C333E8EB30@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.1.1257161802.12593.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W105055822AEEA6D90C333E8EB30@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4AEED26F.30901@ozemail.com.au> James, It is better to do the terminals up tight to reduce cranking volt drop to a minimum. I also run a heavy welding lead from one of the starter motor flange fixing bolts directly back to the battery chassis connection. Grouping all wires from the battery and starter motor terminals (except the main starter cable) through an 80A fusible link handles the possibility of smoke escape. You may have to install a red smoke filter to allow a warning light to operate if the fusible link blows. Cheers Dave South Oz James Radcliffe wrote: > I have run Century 11 plate batteries in my Rover over the years, and find they last about 6 years. My Rover is a 2000 auto, which has a generator, and a radio, but no airconditioning. Battery in the engine bay. > > I have always thought on doing up the leads that it is better not to have them too tight. That way if smoke starts to escape from the Lucas wires, the battery can be disconneced quickly without a spanner, which removes the energy source for the smoke which can then be rectified before all the smoke escapes, or worse catches on fire. > > James. From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Mon Nov 2 07:51:09 2009 From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:51:09 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B and ZF auto transmission swaps- additional... Message-ID: <bda.505343fd.38202fbd@aol.com> Hi Peter, I know I am behind but I still can't get the links to work from the P6b ZF site in the UK. I have previously posted that the Falcon ZF's are appearing in wrecking yards in Oz. Rear wheel drive, written - off, late hi spec Falcon autos almost always have the ZF. I am not up to speed on how to attach this box to a Rover or any other F88 derivative but someone will pop up and do it. If Dellow don't beat me to it. Then again, I just don't have the time. The Early Falcon IRS should also be looked at, the one prior to the Blade. Hope I have not blown anything here, maybe these bits are available elsewhere on the planet but I hope I have not indicated that they may be hard to find. The early Ford IRS is like the back of an F1 Car. The later Blade is something like XJ6 30 years later. The bean Counters decided they could sell more cars if the back seats were bigger. So in Oz it is real hard to find. I really want to turn my VDP SD1 into a SuperCar while still being my everyday driver. i am cxrashishing out again. Great Donks are easy to bulid these days if you have a fat creit card. However you need good friends to build the best, I still like the idea of the cross- bolt rangie with some of Jack's Repco Heads. 840 keeps coming to mind. Spun Out. MWJ. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091102/183b9642/attachment.html> From james.moison at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 19:52:28 2009 From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:52:28 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car for sale Message-ID: <dd17f4c60911041652p5214f06dg1657145353f30c65@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I have a 1967 Rover P-6 2000 TC for sale as a whole or in parts. The condition is over all very good, however the car is in various states of repair. The details are to numerous to mention, so best to call if interested. James Moison 3604 Mountain View Dr. Boise Idaho, 83704 James.moison at gmail.com 208-407-7692 p.s. I assume I am to forward this message to you for posting on the net. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091104/9fb5e5b5/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Nov 4 22:25:19 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:25:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car for sale In-Reply-To: <dd17f4c60911041652p5214f06dg1657145353f30c65@mail.gmail.com> References: <dd17f4c60911041652p5214f06dg1657145353f30c65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <334963.37188.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> James, As you have posted your message to the Mailing List and hundreds of people will see it, I presume that's what you meant when you said ".....posting on the net." If you want pictures posted and an ad, then that is something else and you can get back to me for further details: p6rovers at yahoo.com Eric List Admin "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: james moison <james.moison at gmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 4:52:28 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Car for sale Hello, I have a 1967 Rover P-6 2000 TC for sale as a whole or in parts. The condition is over all very good, however the car is in various states of repair. The details are to numerous to mention, so best to call if interested. James Moison 3604 Mountain View Dr. Boise Idaho, 83704 James.moison at gmail.com 208-407-7692 p.s. I assume I am to forward this message to you for posting on the net. __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091104/68511251/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Nov 5 19:58:26 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:58:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? Message-ID: <683134.29192.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, folks........ no idea but Geff's message didn't reach the list when he did it. ? Eric ? ********************************************************************************* Subject: NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? ? I have 2 of these rare valves. Neither works well enough under the available 10-15? vacuum to send hot water to my heater. Presently the heater works fine, as I have directly connected it without any valve. I bought a Jag valve, but it works backwards: Vacuum holds it closed! Anybody know of a substitute??? ? AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From david at davidwalter.net Thu Nov 5 20:04:00 2009 From: david at davidwalter.net (David Walter) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:04:00 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? In-Reply-To: <683134.29192.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <683134.29192.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <F6AC3C39BC454042B77D1B4A1BA7D185@DavidVista> I got some valves a few years ago from the Rover people in Tucson, I think they were a GM product. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? > Hi, folks........ no idea but Geff's message didn't reach the list when he > did it. > > Eric > > ********************************************************************************* > Subject: NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? > > I have 2 of these rare valves. Neither works well enough under the > available 10-15? vacuum to send hot water to my heater. Presently the > heater works fine, as I have directly connected it without any valve. > I bought a Jag valve, but it works backwards: Vacuum holds it closed! > Anybody know of a substitute??? > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) > > > __________________________________________________________________ > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for > Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at > http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From james.moison at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 00:47:52 2009 From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:47:52 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? In-Reply-To: <F6AC3C39BC454042B77D1B4A1BA7D185@DavidVista> References: <683134.29192.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <F6AC3C39BC454042B77D1B4A1BA7D185@DavidVista> Message-ID: <dd17f4c60911052147v29d39d1awf028700669977017@mail.gmail.com> Dude just go manual cable operated. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, David Walter <david at davidwalter.net> wrote: > I got some valves a few years ago from the Rover people in Tucson, I think > they were a GM product. > > David > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com> > To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:58 PM > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? > > > > Hi, folks........ no idea but Geff's message didn't reach the list when he >> did it. >> >> Eric >> >> >> ********************************************************************************* >> Subject: NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? >> >> I have 2 of these rare valves. Neither works well enough under the >> available 10-15? vacuum to send hot water to my heater. Presently the heater >> works fine, as I have directly connected it without any valve. >> I bought a Jag valve, but it works backwards: Vacuum holds it closed! >> Anybody know of a substitute??? >> >> AvMedSafe >> Geff and Julie McCarthy >> 677 NW Melinda Ave >> Portland OR 97210 >> 503-241-8468 >> 503-799-3809 mobile >> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for >> Yahoo! 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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? I got some valves a few years ago from the Rover people in Tucson, I think they were a GM product. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? > Hi, folks........ no idea but Geff's message didn't reach the list when he > did it. > > Eric > > ********************************************************************************* > Subject: NADA 3500S A/C water valve substitute? > > I have 2 of these rare valves. Neither works well enough under the > available 10-15? vacuum to send hot water to my heater. Presently the > heater works fine, as I have directly connected it without any valve. > I bought a Jag valve, but it works backwards: Vacuum holds it closed! > Anybody know of a substitute??? > > AvMedSafe > Geff and Julie McCarthy > 677 NW Melinda Ave > Portland OR 97210 > 503-241-8468 > 503-799-3809 mobile > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) > > > __________________________________________________________________ > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for > Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at > http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Fri Nov 6 12:29:55 2009 From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:29:55 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 disc brake pads interchangable with P6??? In-Reply-To: <01dd01ca5efe$3689b8e0$a39d2aa0$@net> References: <683134.29192.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <F6AC3C39BC454042B77D1B4A1BA7D185@DavidVista> Message-ID: <BAY120-W18ACE378B2B36A871170EB8AF0@phx.gbl> I have a line on a set of new SD1 brake pads at a cheap as chips price and wonder whether they will fit a 1969 2000. Thanks in advance - Richard _________________________________________________________________ For more of what happens online Head to the Daily Blob on Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091106/805d4098/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Nov 6 12:46:19 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:46:19 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SD1 disc brake pads interchangable with P6??? In-Reply-To: <BAY120-W18ACE378B2B36A871170EB8AF0@phx.gbl> References: <683134.29192.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <F6AC3C39BC454042B77D1B4A1BA7D185@DavidVista> <BAY120-W18ACE378B2B36A871170EB8AF0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4AF460EB.1030208@comcast.net> Richard Sharpe wrote: > I have a line on a set of new SD1 brake pads at a cheap as chips price > and wonder whether they will fit a 1969 2000. Nope. 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Ben 434-842-3667 _____ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Bill Robertson Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:18 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S parts Hi all my friend needs 3 inlet and exhaust valves for his 3500S spare motor he's playing around with.....i scrapped all mine as i put 3.9 heads on mine.......anyone have a few lying around...... thanks Bill Robertson _____ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you <http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691811> 're up to on Facebook. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The car is down in Beds, just > off > M1 J12. > > > Regards, > > Chris > > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:06:37 +0100 > From: <p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 NADA wiring loom > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <0D607623B4A349C0842B7345399A9341 at SN037535920331> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Mike > Thank you for the info about Autosparks. I have contacted them but they > are > not able to produce the US spec LHD harness without something to copy. > That > said they do stock the RHD UK spec harness, which is worth knowing. > > The other commercial points of contact haven't got back to me yet > Speak Soon > Warmest regards > Mark > > Mark Gray > Editor, Driving Force > The Rover P6 Club > www.p6club.com > editor at p6club.com > Club line 01902 689975 > Mobile 078 333 48030 > > Club Display prize winners at The Classic Car and Bike Restoration Show, > Donington 2008 > Winners of the Best Club Display Award at the National Restoration Show > 2006. > Winners of the Best Club Display at The Classic Car and Bike Restoration > Show, Donington 2007 > Club Display prize winners at The London Classic Car Show October 2007 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From mg004d4060 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Nov 8 08:10:21 2009 From: mg004d4060 at blueyonder.co.uk (roverp6man) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:10:21 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S parts References: <BAY119-W26EB3AF6352E51E07E883CDEAE0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <B0A5E0C137674712AEA5FFD94C1028D7@SN037535920331> Hi Bill Does your friend need new valves or will second hand good ones do the job? If so I have some second hand ones, he can have. Just email me the address off list and they be in the post as soon as. You can email me at editor at p6club.com Speak Soon Warmest regards Mark Mark Gray Editor, Driving Force The Rover P6 Club www.p6club.com editor at p6club.com Club line 01902 689975 Mobile 078 333 48030 Club Display prize winners at The Classic Car and Bike Restoration Show, Donington 2008 Winners of the Best Club Display Award at the National Restoration Show 2006. Winners of the Best Club Display at The Classic Car and Bike Restoration Show, Donington 2007 Club Display prize winners at The London Classic Car Show October 2007 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091108/6f77bcfd/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Mon Nov 9 08:35:24 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:35:24 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S parts In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W26EB3AF6352E51E07E883CDEAE0@phx.gbl> References: <BAY119-W26EB3AF6352E51E07E883CDEAE0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4AF81A9C.5080305@att.net> Hi Bill, I have some new (NOS) valves, but they are in the unsorted parts and it may take a while to find them. How soon does he need them? Roverly, Kent K. Bill Robertson wrote: > Hi all > my friend needs 3 inlet and exhaust valves for his 3500S spare > motor he's playing around with.....i scrapped all mine as i put 3.9 > heads on mine.......anyone have a few lying around...... > thanks > Bill Robertson > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to > on Facebook. <http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691811> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here is the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Nov 9 09:20:34 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:20:34 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] NOS P6 Spare Tire Cover for sale (boot-mounted spare) In-Reply-To: <4AF81A9C.5080305@att.net> References: <BAY119-W26EB3AF6352E51E07E883CDEAE0@phx.gbl> <4AF81A9C.5080305@att.net> Message-ID: <4AF82532.6010704@comcast.net> Hi, I have what appears to be a New Old Stock vinyl tire cover for the P6 boot-mounted spare. Inside appears to have never been on a tire and is labeled Rover part number 368714. Embossed with Rover ship logo. I can send pics, if interested. Exterior is dusty, but I will clean it up. I was thinking $25 via PayPal plus shipping. Shipping would be $5-$10 within the USA depending on how you want it shipped. Please contact me off-list at rovercar at comcast.net Glen From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Mon Nov 9 17:55:43 2009 From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:55:43 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S Valves Message-ID: <BAY119-W21C211FD679A5D43BC492FDEAC0@phx.gbl> Thanks for all the offers, but he only needs 3 good used valves each(both inlet and exhaust......He's Scots (ie frugal) so he doesn't want to spend much....LOL Thanks Bill Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on Facebook. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691816 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091109/10583e36/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Mon Nov 9 20:58:17 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:58:17 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile Message-ID: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> Hi Netters, As most of you are aware, I have been sorting the items Ron Jones left behind. Two new finds: 1) /The Rover/ by George Oliver. I had never seen this book and am anxious to read it. 2) A large poster of the NAS 3500S still in the tube with only very minor damage. Hasn't seen daylight as the colors are still brilliant. The car is red. I have a poster of a red RHD Three Thousand Five and I think this one is larger. Again, I had never seen one before. Do any of you have either of these items? No, these aren't for sale. I am getting close to the bottom of this very large pile. It has been fun, like digging for burried treasure, but I have too much money in the whole thing and would think twice before doing it again. Still wonder what will happen to this stuff when I, too, am gone. If you don't hear from me for several months, email Sheila at sheilakinard at att.net. Roverly, Kent K. From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Mon Nov 9 22:56:18 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:56:18 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile In-Reply-To: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> References: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> Message-ID: <COL114-W360A1AEE52AEB7E2D1FFBBDEAB0@phx.gbl> Hope you are feeling well Kent ...but just in case someone tries to get to your stash ahead of me ...do you mind if I email her now ...??? LOL Regards Dennis > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:58:17 -0600 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile > > Hi Netters, > As most of you are aware, I have been sorting the items Ron Jones left > behind. Two new finds: 1) /The Rover/ by George Oliver. I had never > seen this book and am anxious to read it. 2) A large poster of the NAS > 3500S still in the tube with only very minor damage. Hasn't seen > daylight as the colors are still brilliant. The car is red. I have a > poster of a red RHD Three Thousand Five and I think this one is larger. > Again, I had never seen one before. Do any of you have either of these > items? > > No, these aren't for sale. > > I am getting close to the bottom of this very large pile. It has been > fun, like digging for burried treasure, but I have too much money in the > whole thing and would think twice before doing it again. > > Still wonder what will happen to this stuff when I, too, am gone. If > you don't hear from me for several months, email Sheila at > sheilakinard at att.net. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on Facebook. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691816 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Clearly I'll have to solve this problem pretty smartly as there are safety concerns. Because of the way the engine cuts out, I am assuming the problem is in the ignition system. Before I call my auto electrician, I'd be very grateful of any advice that members might be able to offer as to the cause and possible solutions. Many thanks Peter Mitchell Perth Western Australia E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13660 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091110/4260666d/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Tue Nov 10 00:13:38 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:13:38 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] V8 Engine Cuts out under power -ignition problem? In-Reply-To: <002401ca61c1$bb8ec9c0$32ac5d40$@net.au> References: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net><COL114-W360A1AEE52AEB7E2D1FFBBDEAB0@phx.gbl> <002401ca61c1$bb8ec9c0$32ac5d40$@net.au> Message-ID: <BA4166F3BADB42938791FB8CB7F81303@Vista> They fail weirdly in my experience. The TAI I built worked fine on the TC, then when I moved it to the V8 it would randomly cut out. I built a new one from Jaycar and it has been fine ever since. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Mitchell To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] V8 Engine Cuts out under power -ignition problem? Hi Netters, My 3500 V8 engine was rebuilt 2 years ago and has done only 10,000 km. It has an older electronic ignition installed - I do not know what make. There is a reasonably new electric fuel pump. The engine has stopped suddenly while idling but was able to be easily restarted. Twice in the last week the engine has stopped while under throttle. Again, I've been able to put it into neutral and achieve a restart. Clearly I'll have to solve this problem pretty smartly as there are safety concerns. Because of the way the engine cuts out, I am assuming the problem is in the ignition system. Before I call my auto electrician, I'd be very grateful of any advice that members might be able to offer as to the cause and possible solutions. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091110/8d33f13e/attachment-0001.html> From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 00:15:39 2009 From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:15:39 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] V8 Engine Cuts out under power - ignition problem? In-Reply-To: <002401ca61c1$bb8ec9c0$32ac5d40$@net.au> References: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> <COL114-W360A1AEE52AEB7E2D1FFBBDEAB0@phx.gbl> <002401ca61c1$bb8ec9c0$32ac5d40$@net.au> Message-ID: <204ec4390911092115p3258a45ar4bfac1832bbe4e52@mail.gmail.com> Peter First thought with inexpicable iginition issues - "it's probably the condenser". It's not an infallible answer but is a really good place to start before you start pulling and replacing more expensive parts. Dying coils can create the same symptom, which is usually due to heat build up; it usually takes a few minutes cooling down before you can restart. Aidrian From peter_m at amnet.net.au Tue Nov 10 00:25:46 2009 From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:25:46 +0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] V8 Engine Cuts out under power -ignition problem?- Try replacing condenser In-Reply-To: <204ec4390911092115p3258a45ar4bfac1832bbe4e52@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> <COL114-W360A1AEE52AEB7E2D1FFBBDEAB0@phx.gbl> <002401ca61c1$bb8ec9c0$32ac5d40$@net.au> <204ec4390911092115p3258a45ar4bfac1832bbe4e52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003901ca61c6$41827cd0$c4877670$@net.au> Hello Adrian (and list) Many thanks for the constructive suggestion; I will try replacing the condenser for a start. Much appreciated and thanks, Peter First thought with inexpicable iginition issues - "it's probably the condenser". It's not an infallible answer but is a really good place to start before you start pulling and replacing more expensive parts. Dying coils can create the same symptom, which is usually due to heat build up; it usually takes a few minutes cooling down before you can restart. Aidrian From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Nov 10 00:45:28 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:45:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile In-Reply-To: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> References: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> Message-ID: <212465.71334.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Rover by George Oliver is expensive (research is fun). Only a true friend should be in line......... I have a copy......... share it with another good friend :-)) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:58:17 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile Hi Netters, As most of you are aware, I have been sorting the items Ron Jones left behind. Two new finds: 1) /The Rover/ by George Oliver. I had never seen this book and am anxious to read it. 2) A large poster of the NAS 3500S still in the tube with only very minor damage. Hasn't seen daylight as the colors are still brilliant. The car is red. I have a poster of a red RHD Three Thousand Five and I think this one is larger. Again, I had never seen one before. Do any of you have either of these items? No, these aren't for sale. I am getting close to the bottom of this very large pile. It has been fun, like digging for burried treasure, but I have too much money in the whole thing and would think twice before doing it again. Still wonder what will happen to this stuff when I, too, am gone. If you don't hear from me for several months, email Sheila at sheilakinard at att.net. Roverly, Kent K. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue Nov 10 04:15:40 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:15:40 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Discovered in the Pile In-Reply-To: <212465.71334.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> <212465.71334.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3018AB952@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> What about this one? It is al?ways about Rover and oliver... And it is quite cheap! http://cgi.ebay.it/Mel-Oliver-and-Space-Rover-on-Mars-William-Morrison_W0QQitemZ280409758795QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4149b95c4b Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: marted? 10 novembre 2009 6.45 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile The Rover by George Oliver is expensive (research is fun). Only a true friend should be in line......... I have a copy......... share it with another good friend :-)) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:58:17 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile Hi Netters, As most of you are aware, I have been sorting the items Ron Jones left behind. Two new finds: 1) /The Rover/ by George Oliver. I had never seen this book and am anxious to read it. 2) A large poster of the NAS 3500S still in the tube with only very minor damage. Hasn't seen daylight as the colors are still brilliant. The car is red. I have a poster of a red RHD Three Thousand Five and I think this one is larger. Again, I had never seen one before. Do any of you have either of these items? No, these aren't for sale. I am getting close to the bottom of this very large pile. It has been fun, like digging for burried treasure, but I have too much money in the whole thing and would think twice before doing it again. Still wonder what will happen to this stuff when I, too, am gone. If you don't hear from me for several months, email Sheila at sheilakinard at att.net. Roverly, Kent K. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From kkinard at att.net Tue Nov 10 08:27:56 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:27:56 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Discovered in the Pile In-Reply-To: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3018AB952@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> References: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> <212465.71334.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3018AB952@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <4AF96A5C.8050403@att.net> gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com wrote: > What about this one? > It is al?ways about Rover and oliver... And it is quite cheap! > > http://cgi.ebay.it/Mel-Oliver-and-Space-Rover-on-Mars-William-Morrison_W0QQitemZ280409758795QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4149b95c4b > > > Best regards, G Ha, Ha! It is to laugh. I'll let you have that one. Roverly, Kent K. From geffandjulie at comcast.net Tue Nov 10 14:43:07 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:43:07 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile In-Reply-To: <212465.71334.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> <212465.71334.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003001ca623e$07996bf0$16cc43d0$@net> I also have a copy, almost unmarked, of George Oliver's classic. It was given to me when we lived in the UK by a friend of my son. At that time I, a Yank, owned no Yank Tanks, but did have a P6B and a P5 3 Litre. Wish I had kept them both! AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Eric Russell Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:45 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile The Rover by George Oliver is expensive (research is fun). Only a true friend should be in line......... I have a copy......... share it with another good friend :-)) Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:58:17 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Discovered in the Pile Hi Netters, As most of you are aware, I have been sorting the items Ron Jones left behind. Two new finds: 1) /The Rover/ by George Oliver. I had never seen this book and am anxious to read it. 2) A large poster of the NAS 3500S still in the tube with only very minor damage. Hasn't seen daylight as the colors are still brilliant. The car is red. I have a poster of a red RHD Three Thousand Five and I think this one is larger. Again, I had never seen one before. Do any of you have either of these items? No, these aren't for sale. I am getting close to the bottom of this very large pile. It has been fun, like digging for burried treasure, but I have too much money in the whole thing and would think twice before doing it again. Still wonder what will happen to this stuff when I, too, am gone. If you don't hear from me for several months, email Sheila at sheilakinard at att.net. Roverly, Kent K. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet ExplorerR 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovercar at comcast.net Wed Nov 11 00:11:09 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:11:09 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 Spare Tire Cover has been sold In-Reply-To: <710402509EB74798B22C3E0F9CEB9765@sherbrooke> References: <710402509EB74798B22C3E0F9CEB9765@sherbrooke> Message-ID: <4AFA476D.201@comcast.net> Thanks for your interest in the spare tire cover I listed for sale. It has been sold. Glen From peter_m at amnet.net.au Wed Nov 11 03:33:43 2009 From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:33:43 +0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover V8 condenser - will purchase and fit new one Message-ID: <000001ca62a9$ae292e90$0a7b8bb0$@net.au> Hi Rovernetters, Thanks to Adrian Bridgeman and Peter Smith for their helpful feedback on the 'cutting-out V8' . As condensers are not expensive I'll change that over, then the coil, before seeking expert help. My Haynes Rover Workshop Manual specifies the condenser as having a capacity of between 0.18 to 0.25 microfarad. Is this description going to be sufficient for the people at Coventry's our main parts dealer here? Is there a make and model of a common condenser that I should ask for please? Such as Bosch, Lucas and a model number? I'd be infernally, eternally grateful of advice on this matter, as I would like to sort this problem with paid expert assistance. Many thanks Peter Mitchell Perth W/Australia E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13670 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091111/312348e6/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed Nov 11 03:55:14 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:55:14 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover V8 condenser - will purchase andfit new one In-Reply-To: <000001ca62a9$ae292e90$0a7b8bb0$@net.au> References: <000001ca62a9$ae292e90$0a7b8bb0$@net.au> Message-ID: <7A2477AA32D14534A7AA421DCD371AEF@Vista> Any points ignition capacitor (condensor) will do it, they are all much the same capacity. What I usually do is get a coil, ballast resistor and capacitor off a Jap car. They last for ages. The main issue is that it fits and mounts mechanically. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Mitchell To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:33 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover V8 condenser - will purchase andfit new one Hi Rovernetters, Thanks to Adrian Bridgeman and Peter Smith for their helpful feedback on the 'cutting-out V8' . As condensers are not expensive I'll change that over, then the coil, before seeking expert help. My Haynes Rover Workshop Manual specifies the condenser as having a capacity of between 0.18 to 0.25 microfarad. Is this description going to be sufficient for the people at Coventry's our main parts dealer here? Is there a make and model of a common condenser that I should ask for please? Such as Bosch, Lucas and a model number? I'd be infernally, eternally grateful of advice on this matter, as I would like to sort this problem with paid expert assistance. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091111/a576456a/attachment.html> From jnsn74 at bellsouth.net Wed Nov 11 12:02:14 2009 From: jnsn74 at bellsouth.net ( T J Dobson) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:02:14 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover by Oliver Message-ID: <002f01ca62f0$f634a9c0$7d514d0c@oemcomputer> Kent - The Oliver book is an interesting read but it has another use - the Rover badge on the dust cover is almost the same size & shape as the grill badge on the Series 1 P6 so I used it to create a replacement for the very faded badge on my 69TC. You need an early series 1 P6 badge with a separate metal surround - not the later type badge with the 'metal' surround sprayed onto the Perspex moulding. Disassemble the badge by bending the retaining ears on the surround. Take a trip to your local copy shop with the Oliver dust cover and make a colour copy with the dimensions slightly enlarged to match the Perspex. Laminate the copy, cut to fit inside the metal surround & reassemble the badge with the laminated copy visible. Wouldn't fool you Kent but works on most people. Ah, the things we do to keep these cars looking good! Terry Dobson Atlanta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091111/a10efc06/attachment.html> From R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com Wed Nov 11 17:20:33 2009 From: R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com (Robert Thornton) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:50:33 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] V8 Engine Cuts out under power - ignition problem? In-Reply-To: <002401ca61c1$bb8ec9c0$32ac5d40$@net.au> References: <4AF8C8B9.3040100@att.net> <COL114-W360A1AEE52AEB7E2D1FFBBDEAB0@phx.gbl> <002401ca61c1$bb8ec9c0$32ac5d40$@net.au> Message-ID: <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F1F1AC41C@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> Either ignition or fuel related. But most probably as you say the former if it's a clean cut rather than a cough and stumble type. If it's an electronic dissy check ignition amplifier, coil and coil connections for lt and ht wires, and also the ignition switch. I once had a switch that suddenly cut out the engine for no reason, then it restarted ok, pulled it apart and cleaned up the internal contacts which solved the problem. Does it only do it when the engine is hot? Rob ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Peter Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2009 3:23 PM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] V8 Engine Cuts out under power - ignition problem? Hi Netters, My 3500 V8 engine was rebuilt 2 years ago and has done only 10,000 km. It has an older electronic ignition installed - I do not know what make. There is a reasonably new electric fuel pump. The engine has stopped suddenly while idling but was able to be easily restarted. Twice in the last week the engine has stopped while under throttle. Again, I've been able to put it into neutral and achieve a restart. Clearly I'll have to solve this problem pretty smartly as there are safety concerns. Because of the way the engine cuts out, I am assuming the problem is in the ignition system. Before I call my auto electrician, I'd be very grateful of any advice that members might be able to offer as to the cause and possible solutions. Many thanks Peter Mitchell Perth Western Australia E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13660 http://www.pctools.com/internet-security/<http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Peter From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Thornton Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 6:21 AM To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] V8 Engine Cuts out under power - ignition problem? Either ignition or fuel related. But most probably as you say the former if it's a clean cut rather than a cough and stumble type. If it's an electronic dissy check ignition amplifier, coil and coil connections for lt and ht wires, and also the ignition switch. I once had a switch that suddenly cut out the engine for no reason, then it restarted ok, pulled it apart and cleaned up the internal contacts which solved the problem. Does it only do it when the engine is hot? Rob E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13680 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091112/f70754d8/attachment.html> From den at aachenkennels.com Wed Nov 11 19:05:56 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:05:56 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover V8 condenser References: <mailman.7.1257958813.6269.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608167A@Server.adoptsec.local> Hi Peter, Thought about joining the Perth Rover car club. There are plenty of members who will help. Give me a call on 94552354. All the best. Den Gallacher As condensers are not expensive I'll change that over, then the coil, before seeking expert help. Many thanks Peter Mitchell Perth W/Australia Many thanks Peter Mitchell Perth W/Australia From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Wed Nov 11 19:47:40 2009 From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:47:40 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608167A@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <mailman.7.1257958813.6269.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BAY120-W18F695CF9D8B207D0EA72FB8A90@phx.gbl> Hi Rover P4 F-head engine valve stem oil seals [inlet valves only] comprise only a rinky-dink O-ring seated partway down the valve guide. These are notorious for sleeping on the job. I want to explore the option of fitting a more efficient and conventional oil seal to the top of the valve under the valve cap - but without performing any engineering mods to the metalwork. To avoid reinventing wheels, has anyone here experimented in this area and with what success? Ideally someone can say "Yeah sure, just fit oil seals off a [e.g.] 1960 Morris Minor". Thanks in advance _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a date? View photos of singles in your area! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091112/6a0636ee/attachment-0001.html> From jaguru at bellsouth.net Wed Nov 11 21:34:09 2009 From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:34:09 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals In-Reply-To: <BAY120-W18F695CF9D8B207D0EA72FB8A90@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.7.1257958813.6269.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <BAY120-W18F695CF9D8B207D0EA72FB8A90@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <A1B16D6567C9410891DE8B48B92D0575@JamesDeanPC1> I had a machinist once who said Datsun 240Z skirt type seals would replace the o-ring seal on Jaguars, and greatly reduce oil consumption. James Dean. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Sharpe To: rover net Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals Hi Rover P4 F-head engine valve stem oil seals [inlet valves only] comprise only a rinky-dink O-ring seated partway down the valve guide. These are notorious for sleeping on the job. I want to explore the option of fitting a more efficient and conventional oil seal to the top of the valve under the valve cap - but without performing any engineering mods to the metalwork. To avoid reinventing wheels, has anyone here experimented in this area and with what success? Ideally someone can say "Yeah sure, just fit oil seals off a [e.g.] 1960 Morris Minor". Thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ View photos of singles in your area! 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Peter On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:47 AM, <p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk> <p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris J Wilson" <chris at chris- > wilson.org> > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 NADA wiring loom > > >> Mark, >> >> If someone is willing to help take it out, they can have the one >> from my >> 69 >> LHD NADA to copy.. I've got no use for it. The car is down in >> Beds, just >> off >> M1 J12. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Chris >> >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:06:37 +0100 >> From: <p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500 NADA wiring loom >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <0D607623B4A349C0842B7345399A9341 at SN037535920331> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi Mike >> Thank you for the info about Autosparks. I have contacted them but >> they >> are >> not able to produce the US spec LHD harness without something to >> copy. >> That >> said they do stock the RHD UK spec harness, which is worth knowing. >> >> The other commercial points of contact haven't got back to me yet >> Speak Soon >> Warmest regards >> Mark >> >> Mark Gray >> Editor, Driving Force >> The Rover P6 Club >> www.p6club.com >> editor at p6club.com >> Club line 01902 689975 >> Mobile 078 333 48030 From vern at inkspotco.com Thu Nov 12 00:46:26 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:46:26 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals In-Reply-To: <A1B16D6567C9410891DE8B48B92D0575@JamesDeanPC1> References: <mailman.7.1257958813.6269.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <BAY120-W18F695CF9D8B207D0EA72FB8A90@phx.gbl> <A1B16D6567C9410891DE8B48B92D0575@JamesDeanPC1> Message-ID: <971A46A3-0F77-495D-845E-09156ED66A9E@inkspotco.com> I have seen this (with different seals and engines) two or three times, but they weren't Rover so are now lost in the mists. Yours Vern On 2009-11-11, at 6:34 PM, James Dean wrote: > I had a machinist once who said Datsun 240Z skirt type seals would replace the o-ring seal on Jaguars, and greatly reduce oil consumption. James Dean. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Sharpe > To: rover net > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:47 PM > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals > > Hi > Rover P4 F-head engine valve stem oil seals [inlet valves only] comprise only a rinky-dink O-ring seated partway down the valve guide. These are notorious for sleeping on the job. > > I want to explore the option of fitting a more efficient and conventional oil seal to the top of the valve under the valve cap - but without performing any engineering mods to the metalwork. To avoid reinventing wheels, has anyone here experimented in this area and with what success? > > Ideally someone can say "Yeah sure, just fit oil seals off a [e.g.] 1960 Morris Minor". > > Thanks in advance > > > View photos of singles in your area! 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091113/f4d4c024/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Thu Nov 12 23:16:01 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals In-Reply-To: <A1B16D6567C9410891DE8B48B92D0575@JamesDeanPC1> Message-ID: <1504269669.2058981258085761611.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> James, I had the same advice when doing a Pinto 2,000 cc engine. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:34:09 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals I had a machinist once who said Datsun 240Z?skirt type ?seals would replace the o-ring seal on Jaguars, and greatly reduce oil consumption. James Dean. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Sharpe To: rover net Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals Hi Rover P4 F-head engine valve stem oil seals [inlet valves only] comprise only a rinky-dink O-ring seated partway down the valve guide.? These are notorious for sleeping on the job. ? I want to explore?the?option of fitting a more efficient and conventional oil seal to the top of the valve?under the valve cap - but without performing any engineering mods to the metalwork.??To avoid reinventing wheels,?has anyone here?experimented in this area and?with what success? ? Ideally someone can say "Yeah sure, just fit oil seals off a [e.g.] 1960 Morris Minor". ? Thanks in advance ? View photos of singles in your area! 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091113/54c5f2e6/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Fri Nov 13 10:57:20 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:57:20 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover by Oliver In-Reply-To: <002f01ca62f0$f634a9c0$7d514d0c@oemcomputer> References: <002f01ca62f0$f634a9c0$7d514d0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <4AFD81E0.3020707@att.net> Hi Terry, Very useful. The same badge is used on the Mk. III P5 and by shrinking, it might look good on Mk. I and Mk. II. Anybody want me to make a color copy? Rovereproductively, Kent K. T J Dobson wrote: > Kent - The Oliver book is an interesting read but it has another use - > the Rover badge on the dust cover is almost the same size & shape as > the grill badge on the Series 1 P6 so I used it to create a > replacement for the very faded badge on my 69TC. > > You need an early series 1 P6 badge with a separate metal surround > - not the later type badge with the 'metal' surround sprayed onto the > Perspex moulding. Disassemble the badge by bending the retaining > ears on the surround. Take a trip to your local copy shop with the > Oliver dust cover and make a colour copy with the dimensions slightly > enlarged to match the Perspex. Laminate the copy, cut to fit inside > the metal surround & reassemble the badge with the laminated copy > visible. Wouldn't fool you Kent but works on most people. Ah, the > things we do to keep these cars looking good! > > Terry Dobson > Atlanta > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From geffandjulie at comcast.net Fri Nov 13 21:47:41 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:47:41 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover by Oliver In-Reply-To: <4AFD81E0.3020707@att.net> References: <002f01ca62f0$f634a9c0$7d514d0c@oemcomputer> <4AFD81E0.3020707@att.net> Message-ID: <001401ca64d4$d66de0d0$8349a270$@net> Same offer: I can scan in a colour copy of the Viking. I would take it to a photo shop for a high quality photo. AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Kent Kinard Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:57 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover by Oliver Hi Terry, Very useful. The same badge is used on the Mk. III P5 and by shrinking, it might look good on Mk. I and Mk. II. Anybody want me to make a color copy? Rovereproductively, Kent K. T J Dobson wrote: > Kent - The Oliver book is an interesting read but it has another use - > the Rover badge on the dust cover is almost the same size & shape as > the grill badge on the Series 1 P6 so I used it to create a > replacement for the very faded badge on my 69TC. > > You need an early series 1 P6 badge with a separate metal surround > - not the later type badge with the 'metal' surround sprayed onto the > Perspex moulding. Disassemble the badge by bending the retaining > ears on the surround. Take a trip to your local copy shop with the > Oliver dust cover and make a colour copy with the dimensions slightly > enlarged to match the Perspex. Laminate the copy, cut to fit inside > the metal surround & reassemble the badge with the laminated copy > visible. Wouldn't fool you Kent but works on most people. Ah, the > things we do to keep these cars looking good! > > Terry Dobson > Atlanta > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Sat Nov 14 01:12:12 2009 From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:12:12 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals In-Reply-To: <1504269669.2058981258085761611.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <A1B16D6567C9410891DE8B48B92D0575@JamesDeanPC1>, <1504269669.2058981258085761611.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <BAY120-W351279C7C6B942F85C3DA7B8A70@phx.gbl> I thought I'd go all empiricial and have a play with a spare 90 cylinder head today. Disassembled one inlet valve unit, had a look-see at the overall arrrangement. and then tried a little experiment with an oil seal that I happened to have sitting in the workshop. The oil seal was from an engine overhaul gasket set for the Ford Cortina/Sierra 2 litre sohc [Pinto] engine by the Aussie outfit ACL stock # CH861MT. After a bit of dicking around, I found that the Ford oil seal fits perfectly inside the 90 inner coil spring and is held there snugly by a rib moulded onto its outside circumference. At the same time, the 90 valve stem fits perfectly through centre aperture in the seal. So here's the deal: 1. Remove the inner coil spring from the valve assembly by "unscrewing" it from its bigger, outer companion. 2. Fit the Ford oil seal into the inner coil spring. Measure the height of valve guide and move the oil seal inside the spring to the right height then test it out by putting it back over the valve guide - the oil seal needs to rest snugly on top of the valve guide. 3. Reinstall the small spring into the big spring making sure that the oil seal's facing the "right" way around. Note: The Ford seal is like a cap over the valve guide - so the "right" way is to have the crown of the seal with its tiny spring tensioner pointing upwards away from the engine. Voila! It's pretty much ready to go back into service. In theory this additional oil seal would be an "active" seal since the operation of the valve system on opening would force the lip of the seal onto the champhered valve guide - so that looks conceptually attractive. I must emphasise that all these data were obtained from static work on the bench - no in-service testing has taken place. Personally I'm very encouraged to pursue this line of experimentation - all the more so since reacquainting myself with the simply inadequate, wimpy valve guide oil seal 0-ring arrangement put there by Rover engineers. Any comments or reactions would be welcome. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:16:01 +0000 From: slatskars at comcast.net To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals James, I had the same advice when doing a Pinto 2,000 cc engine. Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:34:09 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals I had a machinist once who said Datsun 240Z skirt type seals would replace the o-ring seal on Jaguars, and greatly reduce oil consumption. James Dean. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Sharpe To: rover net Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 valve stem oil seals Hi Rover P4 F-head engine valve stem oil seals [inlet valves only] comprise only a rinky-dink O-ring seated partway down the valve guide. These are notorious for sleeping on the job. I want to explore the option of fitting a more efficient and conventional oil seal to the top of the valve under the valve cap - but without performing any engineering mods to the metalwork. To avoid reinventing wheels, has anyone here experimented in this area and with what success? Ideally someone can say "Yeah sure, just fit oil seals off a [e.g.] 1960 Morris Minor". Thanks in advance View photos of singles in your area! 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091114/de93af8b/attachment.html> From gofanu at cust.usachoice.net Sat Nov 14 19:55:51 2009 From: gofanu at cust.usachoice.net (Fletcher Millmore) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:55:51 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1258218006.5210.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.1.1258218006.5210.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4AFF5197.60209@usachoice.net> > > I thought I'd go all empiricial and have a play with a spare 90 cylinder head today. Disassembled one inlet valve unit, had a look-see at the overall arrrangement. and then tried a little experiment with an oil seal that I happened to have sitting in the workshop. The oil seal was from an engine overhaul gasket set for the Ford Cortina/Sierra 2 litre sohc [Pinto] engine by the Aussie outfit ACL stock # CH861MT. > > > > After a bit of dicking around, I found that the Ford oil seal fits perfectly inside the 90 inner coil spring and is held there snugly by a rib moulded onto its outside circumference. At the same time, the 90 valve stem fits perfectly through centre aperture in the seal. So here's the deal: > > > > 1. Remove the inner coil spring from the valve assembly by "unscrewing" it from its bigger, outer companion. > > > > 2. Fit the Ford oil seal into the inner coil spring. Measure the height of valve guide and move the oil seal inside the spring to the right height then test it out by putting it back over the valve guide - the oil seal needs to rest snugly on top of the valve guide. > > > > 3. Reinstall the small spring into the big spring making sure that the oil seal's facing the "right" way around. Note: The Ford seal is like a cap over the valve guide - so the "right" way is to have the crown of the seal with its tiny spring tensioner pointing upwards away from the engine. Voila! It's pretty much ready to go back into service. > > > > In theory this additional oil seal would be an "active" seal since the operation of the valve system on opening would force the lip of the seal onto the champhered valve guide - so that looks conceptually attractive. > > > > I must emphasise that all these data were obtained from static work on the bench - no in-service testing has taken place. Personally I'm very encouraged to pursue this line of experimentation - all the more so since reacquainting myself with the simply inadequate, wimpy valve guide oil seal 0-ring arrangement put there by Rover engineers. > > > > Any comments or reactions would be welcome. > I don't see this as a good idea, clever as it is. The seal will move up and down with the spring, it will be distorted by the spring coils, and it will likely beat itself to death against the guide - all the while letting oil get up inside it to get sucked in. These seals should fit tightly on the guide, correctly on the stem, and not get squished between the spring cap and the guide top, and clear the spring. There are many similarly sized setups around; I just don't know the dimensions, but any seal makers catalog ought to have the data on seals, and someone with a head can measure the rest. The most critical and least obvious is the clearance for the seal at full open valve. It is common to shorten and/or machine a step at the top of the guide when fitting seals to engines that did not come with them. FRM From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sat Nov 14 21:12:05 2009 From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:12:05 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S Brakes Message-ID: <BAY119-W26F0D43E4872D87E785637DEA60@phx.gbl> I went to bleed the brakes today on my 3500S and get no fluid from the fronts.......I tried bleeding it with the front and back at same time like the Haynes manual suggests, or just one front and the rear, but still to no avail.......lots out the back but none at front wheels........i even tried starting the car hoping vacuum in the booster would somehow help.......any thoughts.........i've also tried just the front alone but the pedal goes down once then is hard....but not pressure hard if you know what i mean........waiting 10 secs will let the pedal go to floor again for another single pump but no fluid goes through Roverly confused Bill Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Barry I went to bleed the brakes today on my 3500S and get no fluid from the fronts.......I tried bleeding it with the front and back at same time like the Haynes manual suggests, or just one front and the rear, but still to no avail.......lots out the back but none at front wheels........i even tried starting the car hoping vacuum in the booster would somehow help.......any thoughts.........i've also tried just the front alone but the pedal goes down once then is hard....but not pressure hard if you know what i mean........waiting 10 secs will let the pedal go to floor again for another single pump but no fluid goes through Roverly confused Bill Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2502 - Release Date: 11/14/09 07:43:00 From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Sun Nov 15 07:48:00 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:48:00 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S Brakes References: <BAY119-W26F0D43E4872D87E785637DEA60@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6960592B2DF263B3CABC7D95A60@phx.gbl> Hi Bill This might come out of left field but you never know!!! A couple of years ago I replaced the m/cyl on my TC and replace the brake lines to the servo. after several attempts to bleed the front brakes without getting fluid to flow I discovered I had connected two brake lines to the m/cyl wrong, once corrected everything thing went fine. You probably aren't that dumb!! but one never knows LOL Good Luck Ben (irishrover) ************* Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091115/5c4c9e1d/attachment.html> From sdibdin at hotmail.com Sun Nov 15 09:51:34 2009 From: sdibdin at hotmail.com (Steven Dibdin) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:51:34 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S Brakes In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W26F0D43E4872D87E785637DEA60@phx.gbl> References: <BAY119-W26F0D43E4872D87E785637DEA60@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP923C3E902BF6EA634221A1B0A60@phx.gbl> Hi Bill I don't know the 3500 system well but I would check if there's a portioning valve on the system and if that exists check to see if it's jammed. Just a thought. Steven On Nov 14, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote: > I went to bleed the brakes today on my 3500S and get no fluid from > the fronts.......I tried bleeding it with the front and back at same > time like the Haynes manual suggests, or just one front and the > rear, but still to no avail.......lots out the back but none at > front wheels........i even tried starting the car hoping vacuum in > the booster would somehow help.......any thoughts.........i've also > tried just the front alone but the pedal goes down once then is > hard....but not pressure hard if you know what i mean........waiting > 10 secs will let the pedal go to floor again for another single pump > but no fluid goes through > > Roverly confused > Bill Robertson > > Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no- > mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks for all the good times. ? Roland ? 1960 Rover 3L MK 1 -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sun Nov 15 11:28:58 2009 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:28:58 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S Brakes In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP923C3E902BF6EA634221A1B0A60@phx.gbl> References: <BAY119-W26F0D43E4872D87E785637DEA60@phx.gbl> <BLU0-SMTP923C3E902BF6EA634221A1B0A60@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <001201ca6610$bc45c780$34d15680$@net> The valve is mounted on the right front, next to and almost under the booster. It is a passive shuttle, and sends fluid to both front and rear. Mine leaked for a while, but works fine with new seals. I have never had any trouble bleeding the brakes, except for the difficulty of reaching the single rear bleed valve! Fluid always comes out of all, when the pedal is depressed. AvMedSafe Geff and Julie McCarthy 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR 97210 503-241-8468 503-799-3809 mobile From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Steven Dibdin Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:52 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S Brakes Hi Bill I don't know the 3500 system well but I would check if there's a portioning valve on the system and if that exists check to see if it's jammed. Just a thought. Steven On Nov 14, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote: I went to bleed the brakes today on my 3500S and get no fluid from the fronts.......I tried bleeding it with the front and back at same time like the Haynes manual suggests, or just one front and the rear, but still to no avail.......lots out the back but none at front wheels........i even tried starting the car hoping vacuum in the booster would somehow help.......any thoughts.........i've also tried just the front alone but the pedal goes down once then is hard....but not pressure hard if you know what i mean........waiting 10 secs will let the pedal go to floor again for another single pump but no fluid goes through Roverly confused Bill Robertson _____ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with <http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691810> what you do online. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091115/84432cd0/attachment-0001.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Sun Nov 15 22:41:11 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:41:11 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S Brakes In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W26F0D43E4872D87E785637DEA60@phx.gbl> References: <BAY119-W26F0D43E4872D87E785637DEA60@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4B00C9D7.1030400@comcast.net> Bill, I have two 3500S Owner Manuals. One has the secret to bleeding the brakes handwritten on one of the front pages. Of course, that's the one I can't find. If memory serves, there is a pressure failure switch in the in the dual channel system on the cars sold in the USA and Canada. I believe that this switch is activated by a little piston that slides in a cylinder. When there's a pressure loss in one channel, the piston slides, blocking the channel with the loss of pressure. Seems to me that you had to remove the pressure failure switch and make certain that the sliding piston is centered in the bore before bleeding the brakes. I know this is true in the SD1, and I believe there's a similar situation in the 3500S. There's a "low" area on the piston that will be under the switch when it is not activated (pressure normal). I think the "piston" I refer to is the "passive shuttle" that Geff mentions in his post. It's possible that the pressure failure switch is on or near the servo. The owner's manual does state that "there is no direct path from the master cylinder to the front brakes" but there has to be some way for the fluid to get from the reservoir to the calipers. Bear in mind that I am working from memory here, but since it's quiet out there, I figured I would speak up. Glen Robertson wrote: > I went to bleed the brakes today on my 3500S and get no fluid from the > fronts.......I tried bleeding it with the front and back at same time > like the Haynes manual suggests, or just one front and the rear, but > still to no avail.......lots out the back but none at front > wheels........i even tried starting the car hoping vacuum in the > booster would somehow help.......any thoughts.........i've also tried > just the front alone but the pedal goes down once then is hard....but > not pressure hard if you know what i mean........waiting 10 secs will > let the pedal go to floor again for another single pump but no fluid > goes through > > Roverly confused > Bill Robertson > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. > <http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691810> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You need an early series 1 P6 badge with a separate metal surround - not the later type badge with the 'metal' surround sprayed onto the Perspex moulding. Disassemble the badge by bending the retaining ears on the surround. Take a trip to your local copy shop with the Oliver dust cover and make a colour copy with the dimensions slightly enlarged to match the Perspex. Laminate the copy, cut to fit inside the metal surround & reassemble the badge with the laminated copy visible. Wouldn't fool you Kent but works on most people. Ah, the things we do to keep these cars looking good! Terry Dobson Atlanta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Enroll today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=oVO8DYHjw7-eOQ8OIoTHPAAAJ1D-XfDw-QK7gtBBLem7vPopAAQAAAAFAAAAAPeT2z4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 22:23:32 2009 From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:23:32 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Federal 3500S camshaft specifications In-Reply-To: <20091118.185318.328.0.dmesmg@juno.com> References: <20091118.185318.328.0.dmesmg@juno.com> Message-ID: <204ec4390911181923v34a78557g41ea27bdcd1e902@mail.gmail.com> Dan I am not aware of any difference in the cam grind for the Federal vs home market cars - my parts book shows two part numbers for the camshaft for "early" and "late" models but no separate p/n for the 3500S Auto. Aidrian > Does the Federal 3500S have the identical camshaft to the normal UK-spec > cars of that 1970-71 timeframe? From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Wed Nov 18 23:18:47 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:18:47 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Federal 3500S camshaft specifications In-Reply-To: <204ec4390911181923v34a78557g41ea27bdcd1e902@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091118.185318.328.0.dmesmg@juno.com>, <204ec4390911181923v34a78557g41ea27bdcd1e902@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <COL114-W18393720DD1971E608E7A6DEA20@phx.gbl> What woud be the seperation for late VS early ?? my P6B was built in 1970 if I recall correctly..possibly even late in '69 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:23:32 -0800 > From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Federal 3500S camshaft specifications > > Dan > > I am not aware of any difference in the cam grind for the Federal vs > home market cars - my parts book shows two part numbers for the > camshaft for "early" and "late" models but no separate p/n for the > 3500S Auto. > > Aidrian > > > > Does the Federal 3500S have the identical camshaft to the normal UK-spec > > cars of that 1970-71 timeframe? > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Ready. Set. Get a great deal on Windows 7. See fantastic deals on Windows 7 now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691818 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091119/5c9e0692/attachment.html> From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Wed Nov 18 23:53:33 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:23:33 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Federal 3500S camshaft specifications In-Reply-To: <COL114-W18393720DD1971E608E7A6DEA20@phx.gbl> References: <20091118.185318.328.0.dmesmg@juno.com>, <204ec4390911181923v34a78557g41ea27bdcd1e902@mail.gmail.com> <COL114-W18393720DD1971E608E7A6DEA20@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4B04CF4D.7080304@ozemail.com.au> Hi Dennis The manuals I have make several references to "early" and "late" models in the specifications section. Suspension .... Early 3500 --> up to and including chassis suffix "A" Late 3500 --> from chassis suffix "B" onwards and all 3500S Carburettors Early 3500 models --> SU HS6 Late 3500 and all 3500S --> SU HIF6 Starter motors Early 3500 models --> Lucas M45G pre engaged Late 3500 and all 3500S --> Lucas 3M100 pre engaged Wiper motors Early 3500 models --> Lucas DL3A or 15W Late 3500 and all 3500S --> Lucas 16W Take your pick ...... <g>. HTH Cheers Dave South Oz Dennis Brooks wrote: > What woud be the seperation for late VS early ?? my P6B was built in 1970 if I recall correctly..possibly even late in '69 > From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Thu Nov 19 00:33:35 2009 From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:33:35 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Federal 3500S camshaft specifications In-Reply-To: <4B04CF4D.7080304@ozemail.com.au> References: <20091118.185318.328.0.dmesmg@juno.com>, , <204ec4390911181923v34a78557g41ea27bdcd1e902@mail.gmail.com>, <COL114-W18393720DD1971E608E7A6DEA20@phx.gbl>, <4B04CF4D.7080304@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <COL114-W32EEFA65DE579248330DBADEA20@phx.gbl> Thanks Dave..judging by this info mine is surly an early P6B...nice to know that :) > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:23:33 +1030 > From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Federal 3500S camshaft specifications > > Hi Dennis > The manuals I have make several references to "early" and "late" models in the specifications section. > > Suspension .... > Early 3500 --> up to and including chassis suffix "A" > Late 3500 --> from chassis suffix "B" onwards and all 3500S > > Carburettors > Early 3500 models --> SU HS6 > Late 3500 and all 3500S --> SU HIF6 > > Starter motors > Early 3500 models --> Lucas M45G pre engaged > Late 3500 and all 3500S --> Lucas 3M100 pre engaged > > Wiper motors > Early 3500 models --> Lucas DL3A or 15W > Late 3500 and all 3500S --> Lucas 16W > > Take your pick ...... <g>. > > HTH > > Cheers > Dave > South Oz > > Dennis Brooks wrote: > > What woud be the seperation for late VS early ?? my P6B was built in 1970 if I recall correctly..possibly even late in '69 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091119/f82247af/attachment.html> From petewibb at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 08:38:13 2009 From: petewibb at gmail.com (Peter Wibberley) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:08:13 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted Message-ID: <4B069BC5.9080507@gmail.com> Hi all If anyone has a p4 110 gearbox for sale in Australia could you drop me a line please From allangrp at gis.net Fri Nov 20 10:19:27 2009 From: allangrp at gis.net (Joe Allan ) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:19:27 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Jet reincarnated Message-ID: <125873037301@mx04.gis.net> Jet Car! Check this bad boy out! http://www.ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091120/da1c2f39/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Nov 20 11:10:58 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:10:58 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Jet reincarnated In-Reply-To: <125873037301@mx04.gis.net> References: <125873037301@mx04.gis.net> Message-ID: <4B06BF92.7060905@comcast.net> Joe Allan wrote: > > *Jet Car! Check this bad boy out!* > > > > http://www.ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/ > I think this guy is full of baloney in terms of this being a street legal vehicle. And his claim that it is a hybrid that can be driven in the restricted lanes is also ridiculous. This vehicle has been heavily modified from its DOT-approved configuration and shoots a twelve-foot flame out the back. I thought they had outlawed the little gizmos that shoot flames out of the tailpipes of hot rods. In my state, there are laws against driving around with 2x4s sticking out of the back of the car, let alone a flame-shooting jet engine. The only reason it may be street legal is that he hasn't informed the state or federal authorities about the changes he has made and the fact that he is transporting jet fuel around in a homemade and uncertified container. Finally, if he doesn't have valid automobile insurance, the car is not street legal. Can you see any auto insurance company taking this on? That cop could have checked his insurance and contacted the company on his insurance card and probably brought the owner up on charges of insurance fraud. Hate to be a kill joy. A humorous project. Why mess it up by making bogus claims that it is street legal? Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe that his claim "street legal" was intended to apply to the car when it is in a normal mode not when that after burner is kicked in...I can't say that for sure but I too agree no place on this earth would call 12' flames shooting of of the back end of a VW legal...lol Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:10:58 -0500 From: rovercar at comcast.net To: allangrp at gis.net; rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Jet reincarnated Joe Allan wrote: Jet Car! Check this bad boy out! http://www.ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/ I think this guy is full of baloney in terms of this being a street legal vehicle. And his claim that it is a hybrid that can be driven in the restricted lanes is also ridiculous. This vehicle has been heavily modified from its DOT-approved configuration and shoots a twelve-foot flame out the back. I thought they had outlawed the little gizmos that shoot flames out of the tailpipes of hot rods. In my state, there are laws against driving around with 2x4s sticking out of the back of the car, let alone a flame-shooting jet engine. The only reason it may be street legal is that he hasn't informed the state or federal authorities about the changes he has made and the fact that he is transporting jet fuel around in a homemade and uncertified container. Finally, if he doesn't have valid automobile insurance, the car is not street legal. Can you see any auto insurance company taking this on? That cop could have checked his insurance and contacted the company on his insurance card and probably brought the owner up on charges of insurance fraud. Hate to be a kill joy. A humorous project. Why mess it up by making bogus claims that it is street legal? Glen _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on Facebook. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691816 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091120/d478a3aa/attachment.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Nov 20 15:22:17 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:22:17 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Jet reincarnated In-Reply-To: <COL114-W7AFAF72A27070A6BE4318DEA10@phx.gbl> References: <125873037301@mx04.gis.net>, <4B06BF92.7060905@comcast.net> <COL114-W7AFAF72A27070A6BE4318DEA10@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4B06FA79.6090909@comcast.net> Dennis Brooks wrote: > I saw that car a year or so ago on "daily Planet" show ...and it was > interesting to watch the clip. I believe that his claim "street legal" > was intended to apply to the car when it is in a normal mode not when > that after burner is kicked in...I can't say that for sure but I too > agree no place on this earth would call 12' flames shooting of of the > back end of a VW legal...lol > You must have pretty lax law enforcement in the Maritime Provinces, Dennis! Now, a jet-powered coracle driven by a little girl with red hair in pigtails, I could believe... Anything goes on PEI. ;-) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:10:58 -0500 > From: rovercar at comcast.net > To: allangrp at gis.net; rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Jet reincarnated > > Joe Allan wrote: > > *Jet Car! Check this bad boy out!* > > > > http://www.ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/ > > > I think this guy is full of baloney in terms of this being a street > legal vehicle. And his claim that it is a hybrid that can be driven in > the restricted lanes is also ridiculous. This vehicle has been heavily > modified from its DOT-approved configuration and shoots a twelve-foot > flame out the back. I thought they had outlawed the little gizmos that > shoot flames out of the tailpipes of hot rods. In my state, there are > laws against driving around with 2x4s sticking out of the back of the > car, let alone a flame-shooting jet engine. The only reason it may be > street legal is that he hasn't informed the state or federal > authorities about the changes he has made and the fact that he is > transporting jet fuel around in a homemade and uncertified container. > Finally, if he doesn't have valid automobile insurance, the car is not > street legal. Can you see any auto insurance company taking this on? > That cop could have checked his insurance and contacted the company on > his insurance card and probably brought the owner up on charges of > insurance fraud. > > Hate to be a kill joy. A humorous project. Why mess it up by making > bogus claims that it is street legal? > > Glen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to > on Facebook. <http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691811> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091120/c2592a3a/attachment.html> From britcarnut at yahoo.com Fri Nov 20 15:30:17 2009 From: britcarnut at yahoo.com (Geoff K) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:30:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 19 In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1258736407.30485.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <650507.83759.qm@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wish I could disagree with you, Glen, but I can't. The builder was able to squirm out of a ticket because the cop couldn't figure out what to charge him with, but I'm sure that a few hours spent by a state lawyer perusing the vehicle code would turn up plenty of violations. I'm not altogether sure about insurance problems though. My classic car insurance policy explicitly states the cars must be unmodified, but I don't think there is any such language in my standard policy for my daily drivers. I may be wrong, of course - it's happened once or twice. Still, what a fun car. I dig it. Geoff K. "This is the final test of a gentleman: his respect for those who can be of no possible service to him." - William Lyon Phelps > > > > I think this guy is full of baloney in terms of this being > a street > legal vehicle. And his claim that it is a hybrid that can > be driven in > the restricted lanes is also ridiculous. This vehicle has > been heavily > modified from its DOT-approved configuration and shoots a > twelve-foot > flame out the back. I thought they had outlawed the little > gizmos that > shoot flames out of the tailpipes of hot rods. In my state, > there are > laws against driving around with 2x4s sticking out of the > back of the > car, let alone a flame-shooting jet engine. The only reason > it may be > street legal is that he hasn't informed the state or > federal authorities > about the changes he has made and the fact that he is > transporting jet > fuel around in a homemade and uncertified container. > Finally, if he > doesn't have valid automobile insurance, the car is not > street legal. > Can you see any auto insurance company taking this on? That > cop could > have checked his insurance and contacted the company on his > insurance > card and probably brought the owner up on charges of > insurance fraud. > > Hate to be a kill joy. A humorous project. Why mess it up > by making > bogus claims that it is street legal? > > Glen > From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Nov 20 15:51:17 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:17 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] jet cat In-Reply-To: <650507.83759.qm@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <650507.83759.qm@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B070145.8070503@comcast.net> Geoff K wrote: > I'm not altogether sure about insurance problems though. My classic car insurance policy explicitly states the cars must be unmodified, but I don't think there is any such language in my standard policy for my daily drivers. I may be wrong, of course - it's happened once or twice. > I'm sure that if you look at the fine print in your auto policy there would be some sort of "jet engine in the boot" restriction! If you tell them you want to insure a 1998 VW Bug, sign the papers, and don't mention the jet engine, they'll probably send you an insurance ID card. Saying, "Well, you never asked if there was a jet engine in the boot..." probably won't cut it in court. I suppose you could simply not file a claim when the jet engine explodes, assuming no one in the car and no one within a fifty foot radius is incinerated. ;-) Glen From vmitps at netspace.net.au Fri Nov 20 16:16:21 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:16:21 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <4B069BC5.9080507@gmail.com> References: <4B069BC5.9080507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <95920B203AEF44CDA4FCDF6D2781C8E7@Vista> Any 1954 on P4 gearbox will fit. Ones from 100s (they had overdrive) should be findable. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Wibberley" <petewibb at gmail.com> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:38 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted > Hi all > If anyone has a p4 110 gearbox for sale in Australia could you drop me a > line please > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From den at aachenkennels.com Fri Nov 20 18:29:34 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:29:34 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 19 References: <mailman.9.1258736407.30485.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608172C@Server.adoptsec.local> Good Morning Peter, If you go to the RoverAustralia link below I'm sure someone there will be able to help. Den Gallacher Welcome to the list. Please take the time to go to this linK and join. It will only be as good as the Rover Car enthusiast make it so post away on anything to do with Rovers be it buying or selling cars, parts wanted or for sale or to let the rest of Australia know what's what with all things Rover. And of course please refer the group to as many that you know who will join and enjoy. http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/RoverAustralia/ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:08:13 +0930 From: Peter Wibberley <petewibb at gmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Message-ID: <4B069BC5.9080507 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all If anyone has a p4 110 gearbox for sale in Australia could you drop me a line please From petewibb at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 20:18:07 2009 From: petewibb at gmail.com (Peter Wibberley) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:48:07 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <mailman.92.1258759776.12593.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.92.1258759776.12593.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B073FCF.9020309@gmail.com> Thanks Netspace. That helps, I'm hoping the overdrive is still ok .. > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:16:21 +1100 > From: "Netspace" <vmitps at netspace.net.au> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <95920B203AEF44CDA4FCDF6D2781C8E7 at Vista> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > Any 1954 on P4 gearbox will fit. > Ones from 100s (they had overdrive) should be findable. > > PVS > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Wibberley" <petewibb at gmail.com> > To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:38 AM > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted > > > >> Hi all >> If anyone has a p4 110 gearbox for sale in Australia could you drop me a >> line please >> >> >> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Nov 20 21:41:53 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:41:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 19 In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608172C@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <mailman.9.1258736407.30485.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608172C@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <208445.19990.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What's wrong with the original Rovernet list? Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 3:29:34 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 19 Good Morning Peter, If you go to the RoverAustralia link below I'm sure someone there will be able to help. Den Gallacher Welcome to the list. Please take the time to go to this linK and join. It will only be as good as the Rover Car enthusiast make it so post away on anything to do with Rovers be it buying or selling cars, parts wanted or for sale or to let the rest of Australia know what's what with all things Rover. And of course please refer the group to as many that you know who will join and enjoy. http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/RoverAustralia/ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:08:13 +0930 From: Peter Wibberley <petewibb at gmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Message-ID: <4B069BC5.9080507 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all If anyone has a p4 110 gearbox for sale in Australia could you drop me a line please _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sat Nov 21 07:27:09 2009 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter H) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:27:09 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 19 In-Reply-To: <208445.19990.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <mailman.9.1258736407.30485.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608172C@Server.adoptsec.local> <208445.19990.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <nnmfg594ua74er9snn0m66f7ga9ovkfdh6@4ax.com> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:41:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >What's wrong with the original Rovernet list? Then there is our list, but that is limited to financial members, plus nominated receivers from interstate Rover clubs. We also have a well patronised For Sale and Wanted web page. I posted a wanted advert for Peter on that already. There is the other 'Rovernet' put out by the NSW Rover Owners Club, that is open to anybody. There is a local Rover 75/MGZT group open to anyone. Australia is pretty well served with Rover groups. Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ From petewibb at gmail.com Sat Nov 21 17:46:03 2009 From: petewibb at gmail.com (Peter Wibberley) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:16:03 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1258822812.18931.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.7.1258822812.18931.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B086DAB.8050900@gmail.com> Thanks everyone for their help/interest. Am I right in thinking that the early P5's .... the 3 litre ones used the same manual gearbox? if so that could broaden my search base a bit ... I know the gearshift is different on the P5's but is that just a matter of swapping my top plate with the (raised) gear selector housing on ..onto the P5 box? From kkinard at att.net Sat Nov 21 18:30:35 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:30:35 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <4B086DAB.8050900@gmail.com> References: <mailman.7.1258822812.18931.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <4B086DAB.8050900@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B08781B.9070902@att.net> Hi Peter, The overdrive housing is different on the P5. P5 od's will not fit a P4. Mk. I and II P5's have the P4 shifter. Roverly, Kent K. Peter Wibberley wrote: > Thanks everyone for their help/interest. > Am I right in thinking that the early P5's .... the 3 litre ones used > the same manual gearbox? > > if so that could broaden my search base a bit ... I know the gearshift > is different on the P5's but is that just a matter of swapping my top > plate with the (raised) gear selector housing on ..onto the P5 box? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From kkinard at att.net Sat Nov 21 19:46:44 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:46:44 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <4B08781B.9070902@att.net> References: <mailman.7.1258822812.18931.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <4B086DAB.8050900@gmail.com> <4B08781B.9070902@att.net> Message-ID: <4B0889F4.60907@att.net> Kent Kinard wrote: > P5 od's will not fit a P4. Mk. I and II P5's have the P4 shifter. Asleep at the wheel...only Mk. I's, not Mk. II's. KK From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Sun Nov 22 09:51:42 2009 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:51:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <4B08781B.9070902@att.net> Message-ID: <332830.49998.qm@web180505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have a P5 trans for sale, unfortunately, you have to buy the whole car to go along with it. Sorry, just some early morning humour. :-) roland 1960 P5 --- On Sat, 11/21/09, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 3:30 PM > Hi Peter, > The overdrive housing is different on the P5.? P5 od's > will not fit a P4.? Mk. I and II P5's have the P4 > shifter. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > Peter Wibberley wrote: > > Thanks everyone for their help/interest. > > Am I right in thinking that the early P5's? .... > the 3 litre ones used the same manual gearbox? > > > > if so that could broaden my search base a bit ... I > know the gearshift is different on the P5's but is that just > a matter of swapping my top plate with the (raised) gear > selector housing on ..onto the P5 box? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as > digest mode or no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Sun Nov 22 22:34:30 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:34:30 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Good article in San Francisco Chronicle. Message-ID: <SNT105-W49E7ADBB383B4A5BFE644D8E9E0@phx.gbl> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/22/MT401ANVE9.DTL A good article by Al Boasberg about his Rover. Shows how well the Rovers last when well looked after. They are a bit more challenging when they have been off the road for 10 or 20 years, then brought back to life! James. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Nov 23 00:57:36 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:57:36 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Good article in San Francisco Chronicle. In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W49E7ADBB383B4A5BFE644D8E9E0@phx.gbl> References: <SNT105-W49E7ADBB383B4A5BFE644D8E9E0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4B0A2450.8020301@comcast.net> James Radcliffe wrote: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/22/MT401ANVE9.DTL > > A good article by Al Boasberg about his Rover. Shows how well the Rovers last when well looked after. They are a bit more challenging when they have been off the road for 10 or 20 years, then brought back to life! > > James. > Can't believe they couldn't include a picture of Albert's beautiful red TC. From petewibb at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 03:37:40 2009 From: petewibb at gmail.com (Peter Wibberley) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:07:40 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1258909288.32485.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.3.1258909288.32485.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0A49D4.6070902@gmail.com> Hi Kent thanks for the reply. So .. if P5 o/ds will NOT fit a P4 box ...does that mean my P4 o/d would NOT fit onto the back of a P5 gearbox? just want to make sure I have it in my thick skull I pulled the box apart today and it looks like the front mainshaft bearing has failed and possibly seized onto the shaft ...the Mainshaft has sheared in half at the point where the circlip fits and the synchro ring is distorted through twisting forces... thats some massive twist as the shaft is still about an inch thick even in the circlip groove, the colouring of the shaft where the bearing should have been fitted points to huge heat build up in that area ... not a pretty sight. The noise it made when it failed would have to be in my top 3 of noises I DON'T want to hear again ....right up there with dentist drills and wives saying "does my bum look big in this". > Hi Peter, > The overdrive housing is different on the P5. P5 od's will not fit a > P4. Mk. I and II P5's have the P4 shifter. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > Peter Wibberley wrote: > >> Thanks everyone for their help/interest. >> Am I right in thinking that the early P5's .... the 3 litre ones used >> the same manual gearbox? >> >> if so that could broaden my search base a bit ... I know the gearshift >> is different on the P5's but is that just a matter of swapping my top >> plate with the (raised) gear selector housing on ..onto the P5 box? >> >> >> >> > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:46:44 -0600 > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4B0889F4.60907 at att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Kent Kinard wrote: > >> P5 od's will not fit a P4. Mk. I and II P5's have the P4 shifter. >> > Asleep at the wheel...only Mk. I's, not Mk. II's. > > KK > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:51:42 -0800 (PST) > From: roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <332830.49998.qm at web180505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I have a P5 trans for sale, unfortunately, you have to buy the whole car to go along with it. Sorry, just some early morning humour. :-) > > roland > 1960 P5 > > > > > > From vmitps at netspace.net.au Mon Nov 23 03:19:24 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:19:24 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <4B0A49D4.6070902@gmail.com> References: <mailman.3.1258909288.32485.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <4B0A49D4.6070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7F1C2CE820AD4FA9A0C371B0F3C5BF95@Vista> My uncle once made a new 3/4 mainshaft bush for a P4 box (circa 1975). He made it tight, as was his precision... but it was too tight. When test driving it (it had been a chassis up build of a 55 90), it seized and stripped a gear (2nd?). He had to source the gear and start again... PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Wibberley" <petewibb at gmail.com> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted > Hi Kent thanks for the reply. > > So .. if P5 o/ds will NOT fit a P4 box ...does that mean my P4 o/d would > NOT fit onto the back of a P5 gearbox? > > just want to make sure I have it in my thick skull > > I pulled the box apart today and it looks like the front mainshaft bearing > has failed and possibly seized onto the shaft ...the Mainshaft has sheared > in half at the point where the circlip fits and the synchro ring is > distorted through twisting forces... thats some massive twist as the shaft > is still about an inch thick even in the circlip groove, the colouring of > the shaft where the bearing should have been fitted points to huge heat > build up in that area ... not a pretty sight. > > The noise it made when it failed would have to be in my top 3 of noises I > DON'T want to hear again ....right up there with dentist drills and wives > saying "does my bum look big in this". > > >> Hi Peter, >> The overdrive housing is different on the P5. P5 od's will not fit a P4. >> Mk. I and II P5's have the P4 shifter. >> >> Roverly, >> Kent K. >> >> Peter Wibberley wrote: >> >>> Thanks everyone for their help/interest. >>> Am I right in thinking that the early P5's .... the 3 litre ones used >>> the same manual gearbox? >>> >>> if so that could broaden my search base a bit ... I know the gearshift >>> is different on the P5's but is that just a matter of swapping my top >>> plate with the (raised) gear selector housing on ..onto the P5 box? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:46:44 -0600 >> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <4B0889F4.60907 at att.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Kent Kinard wrote: >> >>> P5 od's will not fit a P4. Mk. I and II P5's have the P4 shifter. >>> >> Asleep at the wheel...only Mk. I's, not Mk. II's. >> >> KK >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:51:42 -0800 (PST) >> From: roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted >> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." >> <rovernet at rovernet.ca> >> Message-ID: <332830.49998.qm at web180505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> I have a P5 trans for sale, unfortunately, you have to buy the whole car >> to go along with it. Sorry, just some early morning humour. :-) >> >> roland >> 1960 P5 >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p5tgc at aol.com Mon Nov 23 06:18:10 2009 From: p5tgc at aol.com (p5tgc at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:18:10 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Good article in San Francisco Chronicle. In-Reply-To: <4B0A2450.8020301@comcast.net> References: <SNT105-W49E7ADBB383B4A5BFE644D8E9E0@phx.gbl> <4B0A2450.8020301@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC3A45C645513E-5DD4-1CA0E@webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com> Just love the idea of a P6 with a 2,000 cubic INCH engine! -----Original Message----- From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 5:57 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Good article in San Francisco Chronicle. James Radcliffe wrote: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/22/MT401ANVE9.DTL > > A good article by Al Boasberg about his Rover. Shows how well the Rovers last when well looked after. They are a bit more challenging when they have been off the road for 10 or 20 years, then brought back to life! > > James. > Can't believe they couldn't include a picture of Albert's beautiful red TC. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091123/cc5f0d95/attachment.html> From ABoasberg at webtv.net Mon Nov 23 09:27:14 2009 From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:27:14 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Good article in San Francisco Chronicle. In-Reply-To: Glen Wilson <rovercar@comcast.net>'s message of Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:57:36 -0500 Message-ID: <8266-4B0A9BC2-407@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> Dear Glen: The article in the paper does have good pix of the TC2000 and also one of the 3500S. Best regards, Al From kkinard at att.net Mon Nov 23 10:22:42 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:22:42 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <4B0A49D4.6070902@gmail.com> References: <mailman.3.1258909288.32485.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <4B0A49D4.6070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B0AA8C2.4030507@att.net> Peter Wibberley wrote: > Hi Kent thanks for the reply. > > So .. if P5 o/ds will NOT fit a P4 box ...does that mean my P4 o/d > would NOT fit onto the back of a P5 gearbox? I was in a hurry the other day when I answered, so I will go slower and try to be more thorough. The P4 and P5 gearboxes without OD would probably interchange from the front bearing retainer rearward (this retainer is actually the rear portion of the bellhousing as well.) I use a P4 w. OD transmission behind a 3.0 litre in my P4/100 (3L7 bearing retainer to bolt to the 3L7 engine which has a larger flywheel) The problem with using P5 transmissions in a P4 comes from the chassis frame and not the gearbox and that problem only occurs when fitting OD. P5 OD's fit right behind the tranny. P4 OD's have a longer housing and that housing spans the crossmember so that the trans is in front of the crossmember and the OD is behind the crossmember. Fitting a P5 OD to a P4 would put the OD unit in the space occupied by the P4 crossmember. Roverly, Kent K. From kkinard at att.net Mon Nov 23 12:24:34 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:24:34 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] more p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <4B0AA8C2.4030507@att.net> References: <mailman.3.1258909288.32485.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <4B0A49D4.6070902@gmail.com> <4B0AA8C2.4030507@att.net> Message-ID: <4B0AC552.2030504@att.net> Peter, I got interrupted by the baby (I was babysitting this morning) and didn't quite finish. To answer the question of whether or not the P4 OD will fit a P5 gearbox, it appears that a P5OD gearbox will take a P4 overdrive unit, but a regular P5 trans without OD will not take either a P4 or P5 OD unit. P4 transmissions without OD will take either the P4 or P5 OD's, though there may be fitment issues on the other end if using a P4 box behind a P5 engine. I just reread that carefully and am pretty sure I got it right. The reason I say this is that all later P4 transmissions and all OD P5 transmissions use the same mainshaft. The P5 trans without OD uses a different mainshaft and I don't know what the difference is. To replace the tranny in your P4 w. OD, you will need a P4 transmission (with or without OD) or a P5 tranny with OD. If you use a P5 w. OD tranny, you will have to swap the OD from the P4 onto the back of the P5 w. OD trans. Hope this helps. Roverly, Kent K. Kent Kinard wrote: > Peter Wibberley wrote: >> Hi Kent thanks for the reply. >> >> So .. if P5 o/ds will NOT fit a P4 box ...does that mean my P4 o/d >> would NOT fit onto the back of a P5 gearbox? > I was in a hurry the other day when I answered, so I will go slower > and try to be more thorough. > > The P4 and P5 gearboxes without OD would probably interchange from the > front bearing retainer rearward (this retainer is actually the rear > portion of the bellhousing as well.) I use a P4 w. OD transmission > behind a 3.0 litre in my P4/100 (3L7 bearing retainer to bolt to the > 3L7 engine which has a larger flywheel) The problem with using P5 > transmissions in a P4 comes from the chassis frame and not the gearbox > and that problem only occurs when fitting OD. P5 OD's fit right > behind the tranny. P4 OD's have a longer housing and that housing > spans the crossmember so that the trans is in front of the crossmember > and the OD is behind the crossmember. Fitting a P5 OD to a P4 would > put the OD unit in the space occupied by the P4 crossmember. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Nov 23 14:07:45 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Sale page Message-ID: <157888.31971.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, We have a new Rover advertised on our website: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm It is a 1962 LHD Rover 100 Mk. IV. It has a long and impressive history in the RCCC. It included new leather seats?and carpet in it's rebuild. Pictures and owner contact details?through the web page link, above. Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From ABoasberg at webtv.net Tue Nov 24 09:55:19 2009 From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:55:19 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Good article in San Francisco Chronicle. In-Reply-To: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe@hotmail.com>'s message of Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:34:30 -0500 Message-ID: <23709-4B0BF3D7-9321@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> Thanks to all who commented about the article. Albert From petewibb at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 14:53:36 2009 From: petewibb at gmail.com (Peter Wibberley) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:23:36 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] more p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1259082004.2447.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.1.1259082004.2447.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0C39C0.1050002@gmail.com> > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] more p4 110 gearbox wanted > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <4B0AC552.2030504 at att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Peter, > I got interrupted by the baby (I was babysitting this morning) and > didn't quite finish. To answer the question of whether or not the P4 OD > will fit a P5 gearbox, it appears that a P5OD gearbox will take a P4 > overdrive unit, but a regular P5 trans without OD will not take either a > P4 or P5 OD unit. P4 transmissions without OD will take either the P4 > or P5 OD's, though there may be fitment issues on the other end if using > a P4 box behind a P5 engine. > > I just reread that carefully and am pretty sure I got it right. The > reason I say this is that all later P4 transmissions and all OD P5 > transmissions use the same mainshaft. The P5 trans without OD uses a > different mainshaft and I don't know what the difference is. > > To replace the tranny in your P4 w. OD, you will need a P4 transmission > (with or without OD) or a P5 tranny with OD. If you use a P5 w. OD > tranny, you will have to swap the OD from the P4 onto the back of the P5 > w. OD trans. > > Hope this helps. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > Thanks Kent it DOES help tremendously, it means I have that other option. Thanks again Pete From rovejag at hotmail.com Tue Nov 24 18:19:07 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:19:07 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member Message-ID: <BLU114-W2902FAB4796CA7E424E911AD9D0@phx.gbl> Hello, I have just joined this list and would like to introduce myself. I am Ray Bingham and I am from Victoria, Australia and have been a Rover owner for 43 years. Looking forward to chatting to other owners about their experiences with "One of Britains Fine Cars" Cheers Ray _________________________________________________________________ For more of what happens online Head to the Daily Blob on Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's often a source of some confusion when people don't use their names in the sender field, but if you don't mind being called Graeme, then no worries. Some of the guys on this list have names like Matilda and Susan and Linda and we've gotten used to them. There's one guy who uses the name "Eric" whose real name is Petunia. Glen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091124/59659af5/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Tue Nov 24 20:46:59 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:46:59 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <4B0C896E.70401@comcast.net> References: <BLU114-W2902FAB4796CA7E424E911AD9D0@phx.gbl> <4B0C896E.70401@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B0C8C93.8080006@att.net> Hi Ray, I would hasten to warn you about Glen. He is a nice guy but he has a very strange sense of humor. Welcome to Rovernet! I, too, would like to know what Rover(s) you presently care for and feed. I am getting to the age where I think I have enough projects. SD1 P5B Coupe P5 Mk. III saloon P4/100 NAS 3500S P6B Series 2 glass roof five speed maybe a few more Roverly, Kent K. San Antonio, Texas Glen Wilson wrote: > Graeme Rover wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have just joined this list and would like to introduce myself. >> >> I am Ray Bingham and I am from Victoria, Australia and have been a >> Rover owner for 43 years. >> >> Looking forward to chatting to other owners about their experiences >> with "One of Britains Fine Cars" >> >> Cheers >> Ray > > Welcom to the Rovernet, Ray! > > May I ask why the sender of your message is identified as Graeme Rover > if your name is Ray? It's often a source of some confusion when > people don't use their names in the sender field, but if you don't > mind being called Graeme, then no worries. Some of the guys on this > list have names like Matilda and Susan and Linda and we've gotten used > to them. There's one guy who uses the name "Eric" whose real name is > Petunia. > > Glen > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Tue Nov 24 22:15:56 2009 From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:15:56 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] It's Alive! Message-ID: <8C5872A9-AE99-4BBF-A8C0-6260885C6D65@telusplanet.net> Got a nice email from my restoration shop today: The engine on my '70 2000 TC (now 2200) is running for the first time since 1987, clutch and rebuilt dual brake system are working (Thanks Ruth for all the help with this). Just waiting for installation of Pertronix electronic ignition, re-torque of the cylinder head, test drive and last inspection. Then she comes home for the winter so I can save up enough to continue with sill welding, suspension bushes, rims, tires and shocks. Inspection for insurance and registration still feel a million miles away, but we are getting closer! Roy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If I was to make a choice however, it would be for the P4 90 and 100, both of which seem to somehow perfectly stir memories of my younger and now far-off childhood. Hope this helps. Ray _________________________________________________________________ Want to know what your boss is paid? Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/8424f03b/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Wed Nov 25 14:04:17 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:04:17 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4B0D7FB1.6070404@att.net> Graeme Rover wrote: > > Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch > which is rather nice. > > My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's > name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately > blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this > site isnt a target for international hackers. > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty safe. Roverly, Kent K. From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed Nov 25 14:50:35 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:50:35 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover Jet reincarnated In-Reply-To: <125873037301@mx04.gis.net> References: <125873037301@mx04.gis.net> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019ABCB9@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> INCREDIBLE ! best regards, gianluca. ________________________________ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Joe Allan Inviato: venerd? 20 novembre 2009 16.19 A: rovernet at rovernet.ca Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Jet reincarnated Jet Car! Check this bad boy out! http://www.ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: luned? 23 novembre 2009 20.08 A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage Hi, We have a new Rover advertised on our website: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm It is a 1962 LHD Rover 100 Mk. IV. It has a long and impressive history in the RCCC. It included new leather seats?and carpet in it's rebuild. Pictures and owner contact details?through the web page link, above. Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Nov 25 14:53:01 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:53:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <604656.26644.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Graeme", We go to some extent to ensure that the Rovernet is SPAM free: 1. The server receives automatic SPAM mail sent to the server as some low-life has used software to troll the Internet and acquire email addresses. Usually the address bypasses protocol and does not confirm that it wishes to join the Rovernet but it sends a long SPAMish message. 2. The server sends me a notice that this non-subscriber (I almost said 'unbeliever' :-) wishes to post a message. 3. This forces me to stop the important things that I do :-, go to the server and see what's happening. 4. I click on "Discard" the message and ban that address from joining or posting. 5. Now, if someone officially joins the list and then sends a SPAM post (sometimes, Glen) :-) , I can deal with that situation which seldom arises. 6. SPAM, virus, worms, and Trojans can be inserted into HTML code used for web pages or Rich Text such as bold faced or color text, etc. In order to stop THAT form of nuisance, the server only accepts Plain Text messages. 7. Sometimes a message is sent which is too long for dial-up or Smart Phone users to appreciate. The server has a limit in size of message to what is usually a regular message. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:40:45 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member Hello, Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch which is rather nice. My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. I currently have a 1956 '90. and a 1965 P5 Coupe, but over the years have had several 90's, 105's, 100's, P5's, P5B's. P6's and P6b's. If I was to make a choice however, it would be for the P4 90 and 100, both of which seem to somehow perfectly stir memories of my younger and now far-off childhood. Hope this helps. Ray ________________________________ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid? __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Howard Billing ---- Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have just joined this list and would like to introduce myself. > > > > I am Ray Bingham and I am from Victoria, Australia and have been a Rover owner for 43 years. > > > > Looking forward to chatting to other owners about their experiences with "One of Britains Fine Cars" > > > > Cheers > > Ray > > _________________________________________________________________ > For more of what happens online Head to the Daily Blob on Windows Live > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx From rovercar at comcast.net Wed Nov 25 15:42:56 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:42:56 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <4B0D7FB1.6070404@att.net> References: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> <4B0D7FB1.6070404@att.net> Message-ID: <4B0D96D0.8070302@comcast.net> Kent Kinard wrote: > Graeme Rover wrote: >> >> Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch >> which is rather nice. >> >> My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my >> gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i >> immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I >> imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. >> > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty > safe. > > Roverly, > Kent K. Once in about 10 or 15 years! Actually, having your real name on an email address doesn't really represent any sort of a risk unless you are prone to threatening heads of state in your emails. Also, having an email address on a large service like Hotmail is more likely to attract spam than aving an address on your local internet service provider because hackers gain a lot more by hacking into large systems than small ones. But if you are worried about spam, Rovernet will probably not be the source. If you do begin to get a lot of spam, you can always change your email address. Ray, I think I can speak for most American Rovernetters when I say that we cherish new members from Down Under because they tend to balance out the Canadian influences on the list! ;-) Welcome! Glen From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Nov 25 16:09:45 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:09:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <4B0D96D0.8070302@comcast.net> References: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> <4B0D7FB1.6070404@att.net> <4B0D96D0.8070302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <377618.66472.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You'll notice that Glen writes with an English Cockney accent ..... :-) <SNIP> ........than aving an address on your local internet service provider because hackers gain a lot more.... </SNIP> Eric _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From rovercar at comcast.net Wed Nov 25 16:32:32 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:32:32 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <377618.66472.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> <4B0D7FB1.6070404@att.net> <4B0D96D0.8070302@comcast.net> <377618.66472.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B0DA270.8000601@comcast.net> Eric Russell wrote: > You'll notice that Glen writes with an English Cockney accent ..... :-) > > <SNIP> ........than aving an address on your local internet service provider because hackers gain a lot more.... > </SNIP> > > Eric > I'm in mourning because my son has married the beautiful Sara from Vancouver, BC and will be moving there in January... My progeny will be at least half Canuck and grow up believing that a twenty-yard deep end zone is normal. They will express thoughts of distance politely in terms of kilometers and end their sentences with two-letter words. They will learn the sad truth that all of our favorite American TV stars and comedians are actually Canadian and believe that "Gone With the Wind" was shot in Vancouver in order to keep it under budget. My son came back from college in North Carolina saying things like, "Y'all can come, but not y'all." He met some young ladies from Tennessee, and started saying, "Y'all might coulda done that." I fear that we may not be able to communicate verbally at all by the time he's been in Vancouver for six months. I met Eric in person last summer, and hardly anything he said to me made any sense at all. I'm assuming it was his thick BC accent since he's frequently lucid in print on Rovernet. You never know where life may take you - or your offspring. ;-) Glen From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed Nov 25 16:48:46 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:48:46 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <4B0DA270.8000601@comcast.net> References: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> <4B0D7FB1.6070404@att.net><4B0D96D0.8070302@comcast.net><377618.66472.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B0DA270.8000601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <485E3C65D3EC446FAFB032E321432E4F@Vista> He'll be aboat, ay. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member > Eric Russell wrote: >> You'll notice that Glen writes with an English Cockney accent ..... :-) >> >> <SNIP> ........than aving an address on your local internet service >> provider because hackers gain a lot more.... >> </SNIP> >> >> Eric >> > > I'm in mourning because my son has married the beautiful Sara from > Vancouver, BC and will be moving there in January... > > My progeny will be at least half Canuck and grow up believing that a > twenty-yard deep end zone is normal. They will express thoughts of > distance politely in terms of kilometers and end their sentences with > two-letter words. They will learn the sad truth that all of our favorite > American TV stars and comedians are actually Canadian and believe that > "Gone With the Wind" was shot in Vancouver in order to keep it under > budget. My son came back from college in North Carolina saying things > like, "Y'all can come, but not y'all." He met some young ladies from > Tennessee, and started saying, "Y'all might coulda done that." I fear that > we may not be able to communicate verbally at all by the time he's been in > Vancouver for six months. I met Eric in person last summer, and hardly > anything he said to me made any sense at all. I'm assuming it was his > thick BC accent since he's frequently lucid in print on Rovernet. > > You never know where life may take you - or your offspring. > > ;-) > > Glen > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From dirk at vy-tek.com Wed Nov 25 17:01:21 2009 From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:01:21 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica 10 Dates Set For June 18th-20th In-Reply-To: <mailman.22.1259181771.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <C29661363E7A4658B0B077CBDE9B6557@DirkPC2> Hello All, I will be sending out official invitations and further details shortly but I want all to know that the dates for RoveAmerica 10 have been set for June 18th through the 20th 2010. With this kind of notice there should be no excuses so break to your spouse now and plan a vacation around it. If you would like to be included in my sometime newsletter RoverPhiles and on the update list for the event please send a email to me at cars at roveramerica.com IF you have NOT received one from me in the past. For those who have you are already on the list. This year we have a few surprises for you with a some change ups to make this a even better event. I personally visited the NEC car show event a few weeks back in the UK and had the opportunity to present a engraved invitation to most of Rover clubs within the UK including the RSR, P4 Guild, P5 club the SD1 club and the P6 club. There and then I got a number commitments to come over and show us yanks how it is done. So RoveAmerica can now be counted as a international event. So don't let a little thing like living in California keep you from the event and you Rover owners in Australia or New Zeeland why not take advantage of your currency value and plan a vacation in the States. I hope everyone has a Great Holiday and a Happy Roving New Year Dirk -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:43 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 26 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. Hello From New Member (Graeme Rover) 2. Re: Hello From New Member (Kent Kinard) 3. R: Rover Jet reincarnated (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) 4. R: Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) 5. Re: Hello From New Member (Eric Russell) 6. Re: Hello From New Member (hbi95322 at bigpond.net.au) 7. Re: Hello From New Member (Glen Wilson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:40:45 +1100 From: Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch which is rather nice. My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. I currently have a 1956 '90. and a 1965 P5 Coupe, but over the years have had several 90's, 105's, 100's, P5's, P5B's. P6's and P6b's. If I was to make a choice however, it would be for the P4 90 and 100, both of which seem to somehow perfectly stir memories of my younger and now far-off childhood. Hope this helps. Ray _________________________________________________________________ Want to know what your boss is paid? Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/8424 f03b/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:04:17 -0600 From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0D7FB1.6070404 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Graeme Rover wrote: > > Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch > which is rather nice. > > My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's > name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately > blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this > site isnt a target for international hackers. > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty safe. Roverly, Kent K. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:50:35 +0100 From: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover Jet reincarnated To: <allangrp at gis.net>, <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019ABCB9 at E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" INCREDIBLE ! best regards, gianluca. ________________________________ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Joe Allan Inviato: venerd? 20 novembre 2009 16.19 A: rovernet at rovernet.ca Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Jet reincarnated Jet Car! Check this bad boy out! http://www.ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: luned? 23 novembre 2009 20.08 A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage Hi, We have a new Rover advertised on our website: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm It is a 1962 LHD Rover 100 Mk. IV. It has a long and impressive history in the RCCC. It included new leather seats?and carpet in it's rebuild. Pictures and owner contact details?through the web page link, above. Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:53:01 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <604656.26644.qm at web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Graeme", We go to some extent to ensure that the Rovernet is SPAM free: 1. The server receives automatic SPAM mail sent to the server as some low-life has used software to troll the Internet and acquire email addresses. Usually the address bypasses protocol and does not confirm that it wishes to join the Rovernet but it sends a long SPAMish message. 2. The server sends me a notice that this non-subscriber (I almost said 'unbeliever' :-) wishes to post a message. 3. This forces me to stop the important things that I do :-, go to the server and see what's happening. 4. I click on "Discard" the message and ban that address from joining or posting. 5. Now, if someone officially joins the list and then sends a SPAM post (sometimes, Glen) :-) , I can deal with that situation which seldom arises. 6. SPAM, virus, worms, and Trojans can be inserted into HTML code used for web pages or Rich Text such as bold faced or color text, etc. In order to stop THAT form of nuisance, the server only accepts Plain Text messages. 7. Sometimes a message is sent which is too long for dial-up or Smart Phone users to appreciate. The server has a limit in size of message to what is usually a regular message. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:40:45 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member Hello, Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch which is rather nice. My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. I currently have a 1956 '90. and a 1965 P5 Coupe, but over the years have had several 90's, 105's, 100's, P5's, P5B's. P6's and P6b's. If I was to make a choice however, it would be for the P4 90 and 100, both of which seem to somehow perfectly stir memories of my younger and now far-off childhood. Hope this helps. Ray ________________________________ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid? __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Howard Billing ---- Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have just joined this list and would like to introduce myself. > > > > I am Ray Bingham and I am from Victoria, Australia and have been a Rover owner for 43 years. > > > > Looking forward to chatting to other owners about their experiences with "One of Britains Fine Cars" > > > > Cheers > > Ray > > _________________________________________________________________ > For more of what happens online Head to the Daily Blob on Windows Live > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:42:56 -0500 From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0D96D0.8070302 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kent Kinard wrote: > Graeme Rover wrote: >> >> Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch >> which is rather nice. >> >> My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my >> gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i >> immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I >> imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. >> > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty > safe. > > Roverly, > Kent K. Once in about 10 or 15 years! Actually, having your real name on an email address doesn't really represent any sort of a risk unless you are prone to threatening heads of state in your emails. Also, having an email address on a large service like Hotmail is more likely to attract spam than aving an address on your local internet service provider because hackers gain a lot more by hacking into large systems than small ones. But if you are worried about spam, Rovernet will probably not be the source. If you do begin to get a lot of spam, you can always change your email address. Ray, I think I can speak for most American Rovernetters when I say that we cherish new members from Down Under because they tend to balance out the Canadian influences on the list! ;-) Welcome! Glen ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 26 **************************************** From dirk at vy-tek.com Wed Nov 25 17:02:48 2009 From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:02:48 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 26 In-Reply-To: <mailman.22.1259181771.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <495F1AC4E31142A4A14224F7790C6768@DirkPC2> Welcome Ray, Where are you located? Do you have pictures? Dirk -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:43 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 26 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. Hello From New Member (Graeme Rover) 2. Re: Hello From New Member (Kent Kinard) 3. R: Rover Jet reincarnated (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) 4. R: Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) 5. Re: Hello From New Member (Eric Russell) 6. Re: Hello From New Member (hbi95322 at bigpond.net.au) 7. Re: Hello From New Member (Glen Wilson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:40:45 +1100 From: Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch which is rather nice. My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. I currently have a 1956 '90. and a 1965 P5 Coupe, but over the years have had several 90's, 105's, 100's, P5's, P5B's. P6's and P6b's. If I was to make a choice however, it would be for the P4 90 and 100, both of which seem to somehow perfectly stir memories of my younger and now far-off childhood. Hope this helps. Ray _________________________________________________________________ Want to know what your boss is paid? Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/8424 f03b/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:04:17 -0600 From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0D7FB1.6070404 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Graeme Rover wrote: > > Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch > which is rather nice. > > My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's > name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately > blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this > site isnt a target for international hackers. > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty safe. Roverly, Kent K. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:50:35 +0100 From: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover Jet reincarnated To: <allangrp at gis.net>, <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019ABCB9 at E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" INCREDIBLE ! best regards, gianluca. ________________________________ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Joe Allan Inviato: venerd? 20 novembre 2009 16.19 A: rovernet at rovernet.ca Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Jet reincarnated Jet Car! Check this bad boy out! http://www.ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: luned? 23 novembre 2009 20.08 A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage Hi, We have a new Rover advertised on our website: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm It is a 1962 LHD Rover 100 Mk. IV. It has a long and impressive history in the RCCC. It included new leather seats?and carpet in it's rebuild. Pictures and owner contact details?through the web page link, above. Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:53:01 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <604656.26644.qm at web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Graeme", We go to some extent to ensure that the Rovernet is SPAM free: 1. The server receives automatic SPAM mail sent to the server as some low-life has used software to troll the Internet and acquire email addresses. Usually the address bypasses protocol and does not confirm that it wishes to join the Rovernet but it sends a long SPAMish message. 2. The server sends me a notice that this non-subscriber (I almost said 'unbeliever' :-) wishes to post a message. 3. This forces me to stop the important things that I do :-, go to the server and see what's happening. 4. I click on "Discard" the message and ban that address from joining or posting. 5. Now, if someone officially joins the list and then sends a SPAM post (sometimes, Glen) :-) , I can deal with that situation which seldom arises. 6. SPAM, virus, worms, and Trojans can be inserted into HTML code used for web pages or Rich Text such as bold faced or color text, etc. In order to stop THAT form of nuisance, the server only accepts Plain Text messages. 7. Sometimes a message is sent which is too long for dial-up or Smart Phone users to appreciate. The server has a limit in size of message to what is usually a regular message. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:40:45 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member Hello, Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch which is rather nice. My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. I currently have a 1956 '90. and a 1965 P5 Coupe, but over the years have had several 90's, 105's, 100's, P5's, P5B's. P6's and P6b's. If I was to make a choice however, it would be for the P4 90 and 100, both of which seem to somehow perfectly stir memories of my younger and now far-off childhood. Hope this helps. Ray ________________________________ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid? __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Howard Billing ---- Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have just joined this list and would like to introduce myself. > > > > I am Ray Bingham and I am from Victoria, Australia and have been a Rover owner for 43 years. > > > > Looking forward to chatting to other owners about their experiences with "One of Britains Fine Cars" > > > > Cheers > > Ray > > _________________________________________________________________ > For more of what happens online Head to the Daily Blob on Windows Live > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:42:56 -0500 From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0D96D0.8070302 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kent Kinard wrote: > Graeme Rover wrote: >> >> Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch >> which is rather nice. >> >> My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my >> gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i >> immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I >> imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. >> > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty > safe. > > Roverly, > Kent K. Once in about 10 or 15 years! Actually, having your real name on an email address doesn't really represent any sort of a risk unless you are prone to threatening heads of state in your emails. Also, having an email address on a large service like Hotmail is more likely to attract spam than aving an address on your local internet service provider because hackers gain a lot more by hacking into large systems than small ones. But if you are worried about spam, Rovernet will probably not be the source. If you do begin to get a lot of spam, you can always change your email address. Ray, I think I can speak for most American Rovernetters when I say that we cherish new members from Down Under because they tend to balance out the Canadian influences on the list! ;-) Welcome! Glen ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 26 **************************************** From peterhut at activ8.net.au Wed Nov 25 18:06:51 2009 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter H) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:06:51 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica 10 Dates Set For June 18th-20th In-Reply-To: <C29661363E7A4658B0B077CBDE9B6557@DirkPC2> References: <mailman.22.1259181771.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <C29661363E7A4658B0B077CBDE9B6557@DirkPC2> Message-ID: <epdrg5d5ef39u7uvku9gdrl7469n3p3ivk@4ax.com> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:01:21 -0500, you wrote: Dirk, >I will be sending out official invitations and further details shortly but I >want all to know that the dates for RoveAmerica 10 have been set for >June 18th through the 20th 2010. With this kind of notice there should be no >excuses so break to your spouse now and plan a vacation around it. I will put a mention for info in our 2010 Events list when I update for the new year. Do you have a web page link I can use or just the email address? Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Nov 25 18:17:00 2009 From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:17:00 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica 10 Dates Set For June18th-20th References: <C29661363E7A4658B0B077CBDE9B6557@DirkPC2> Message-ID: <4A49447AB5B842DE968271C8D47C94ED@SN037535920331> Hi Dirk Nice to meet you at the NEC and welcome to the RP6C as well. I have put your RoveAmerica 10 event into our events diary on our website www.p6club.com and I'll put an item about it, in our next mag as well. Any chance of one or two pictures from last years event, so that I can add them to the item? Speak Soon Warmest regards Mark Mark Gray Editor, Driving Force The Rover P6 Club www.p6club.com editor at p6club.com Club line 01902 689975 Mobile 078 333 48030 From lafbery at telus.net Wed Nov 25 18:19:08 2009 From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:19:08 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] more p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <4B0C39C0.1050002@gmail.com> References: <mailman.1.1259082004.2447.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <4B0C39C0.1050002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3CAE569CC357457B9DB1C6A0DE2FF427@ChloePC> Did everybody get this, those with a head ache can take a few days off, I, living in Canada having a Royal head ache, can take a week off. Thanks anyway Kent. Barry P2 P3 P5 Peter, I got interrupted by the baby (I was babysitting this morning) and didn't quite finish. To answer the question of whether or not the P4 OD will fit a P5 gearbox, it appears that a P5OD gearbox will take a P4 overdrive unit, but a regular P5 trans without OD will not take either a P4 or P5 OD unit. P4 transmissions without OD will take either the P4 or P5 OD's, though there may be fitment issues on the other end if using a P4 box behind a P5 engine. I just reread that carefully and am pretty sure I got it right. The reason I say this is that all later P4 transmissions and all OD P5 transmissions use the same mainshaft. The P5 trans without OD uses a different mainshaft and I don't know what the difference is. To replace the tranny in your P4 w. OD, you will need a P4 transmission (with or without OD) or a P5 tranny with OD. If you use a P5 w. OD tranny, you will have to swap the OD from the P4 onto the back of the P5 w. OD trans. Hope this helps. Roverly, Kent K. From slatskars at comcast.net Wed Nov 25 19:21:12 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica 10 Dates Set For June 18th-20th In-Reply-To: <C29661363E7A4658B0B077CBDE9B6557@DirkPC2> Message-ID: <529200990.6903511259194872218.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi Ray, Welcome. Thought that I would pipe in also. It is a great group and all that I have met are folks that I consider true friends. I am mostly MG oriented, but do have a 63 P-5 w/OD, that has been dormant for some time. Too many projects in the Que. It basically needs the brakes and now hydraulic clutch system rebuilt. It is currently about number three in the Que. I am located in SW Washington State, just nine miles North of Portland, OR. I do not like to say Vancouver, WA as it continues to be mistaken for Vancouver B.C. We in fact currently have some discussion going on about changing the name to Fort Vancouver (the original name and location of the Fort Vancouver?National Historic site, which was the Western headquarters of the Hudson Bay company before it became U.S. property). I am in favor of ending this confusion and recognizing the fort and it's historical value. There are some really knowledgeable gents on the list. I can offer some assist on SU's (carbs and fuel pumps) as well as Lucas distributors. Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are pictures galore :-) http://www.roverclub.ca/rover_america09.htm Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: "p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk" <p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 3:17:00 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica 10 Dates Set For June18th-20th Hi Dirk Nice to meet you at the NEC and welcome to the RP6C as well. I have put your RoveAmerica 10 event into our events diary on our website www.p6club.com and I'll put an item about it, in our next mag as well. Any chance of one or two pictures from last years event, so that I can add them to the item? Speak Soon Warmest regards Mark Mark Gray Editor, Driving Force The Rover P6 Club www.p6club.com editor at p6club.com Club line 01902 689975 Mobile 078 333 48030 _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Nov 25 19:59:23 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:59:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica 10 Dates Set For June 18th-20th In-Reply-To: <C29661363E7A4658B0B077CBDE9B6557@DirkPC2> References: <C29661363E7A4658B0B077CBDE9B6557@DirkPC2> Message-ID: <590167.3482.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well,.......... the Russells will be there .....eh? Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Dirk Burrowes <dirk at vy-tek.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 2:01:21 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] RoveAmerica 10 Dates Set For June 18th-20th Hello All, I will be sending out official invitations and further details shortly but I want all to know that the dates for RoveAmerica 10 have been set for June 18th through the 20th 2010. With this kind of notice there should be no excuses so break to your spouse now and plan a vacation around it. If you would like to be included in my sometime newsletter RoverPhiles and on the update list for the event please send a email to me at cars at roveramerica.com IF you have NOT received one from me in the past. For those who have you are already on the list. This year we have a few surprises for you with a some change ups to make this a even better event. I personally visited the NEC car show event a few weeks back in the UK and had the opportunity to present a engraved invitation to most of Rover clubs within the UK including the RSR, P4 Guild, P5 club the SD1 club and the P6 club. There and then I got a number commitments to come over and show us yanks how it is done. So RoveAmerica can now be counted as a international event. So don't let a little thing like living in California keep you from the event and you Rover owners in Australia or New Zeeland why not take advantage of your currency value and plan a vacation in the States. I hope everyone has a Great Holiday and a Happy Roving New Year Dirk -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:43 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 26 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. Hello From New Member (Graeme Rover) 2. Re: Hello From New Member (Kent Kinard) 3. R: Rover Jet reincarnated (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) 4. R: Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) 5. Re: Hello From New Member (Eric Russell) 6. Re: Hello From New Member (hbi95322 at bigpond.net.au) 7. Re: Hello From New Member (Glen Wilson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:40:45 +1100 From: Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch which is rather nice. My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. I currently have a 1956 '90. and a 1965 P5 Coupe, but over the years have had several 90's, 105's, 100's, P5's, P5B's. P6's and P6b's. If I was to make a choice however, it would be for the P4 90 and 100, both of which seem to somehow perfectly stir memories of my younger and now far-off childhood. Hope this helps. Ray _________________________________________________________________ Want to know what your boss is paid? Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/8424 f03b/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:04:17 -0600 From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0D7FB1.6070404 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Graeme Rover wrote: > > Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch > which is rather nice. > > My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's > name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately > blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this > site isnt a target for international hackers. > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty safe. Roverly, Kent K. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:50:35 +0100 From: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rover Jet reincarnated To: <allangrp at gis.net>, <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019ABCB9 at E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" INCREDIBLE ! best regards, gianluca. ________________________________ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Joe Allan Inviato: venerd? 20 novembre 2009 16.19 A: rovernet at rovernet.ca Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover Jet reincarnated Jet Car! Check this bad boy out! http://www.ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: luned? 23 novembre 2009 20.08 A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage Hi, We have a new Rover advertised on our website: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm It is a 1962 LHD Rover 100 Mk. IV. It has a long and impressive history in the RCCC. It included new leather seats?and carpet in it's rebuild. Pictures and owner contact details?through the web page link, above. Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:53:01 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <604656.26644.qm at web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Graeme", We go to some extent to ensure that the Rovernet is SPAM free: 1. The server receives automatic SPAM mail sent to the server as some low-life has used software to troll the Internet and acquire email addresses. Usually the address bypasses protocol and does not confirm that it wishes to join the Rovernet but it sends a long SPAMish message. 2. The server sends me a notice that this non-subscriber (I almost said 'unbeliever' :-) wishes to post a message. 3. This forces me to stop the important things that I do :-, go to the server and see what's happening. 4. I click on "Discard" the message and ban that address from joining or posting. 5. Now, if someone officially joins the list and then sends a SPAM post (sometimes, Glen) :-) , I can deal with that situation which seldom arises. 6. SPAM, virus, worms, and Trojans can be inserted into HTML code used for web pages or Rich Text such as bold faced or color text, etc. In order to stop THAT form of nuisance, the server only accepts Plain Text messages. 7. Sometimes a message is sent which is too long for dial-up or Smart Phone users to appreciate. The server has a limit in size of message to what is usually a regular message. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:40:45 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member Hello, Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch which is rather nice. My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. I currently have a 1956 '90. and a 1965 P5 Coupe, but over the years have had several 90's, 105's, 100's, P5's, P5B's. P6's and P6b's. If I was to make a choice however, it would be for the P4 90 and 100, both of which seem to somehow perfectly stir memories of my younger and now far-off childhood. Hope this helps. Ray ________________________________ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid? __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Howard Billing ---- Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have just joined this list and would like to introduce myself. > > > > I am Ray Bingham and I am from Victoria, Australia and have been a Rover owner for 43 years. > > > > Looking forward to chatting to other owners about their experiences with "One of Britains Fine Cars" > > > > Cheers > > Ray > > _________________________________________________________________ > For more of what happens online Head to the Daily Blob on Windows Live > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:42:56 -0500 From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0D96D0.8070302 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kent Kinard wrote: > Graeme Rover wrote: >> >> Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch >> which is rather nice. >> >> My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my >> gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i >> immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I >> imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. >> > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty > safe. > > Roverly, > Kent K. Once in about 10 or 15 years! Actually, having your real name on an email address doesn't really represent any sort of a risk unless you are prone to threatening heads of state in your emails. Also, having an email address on a large service like Hotmail is more likely to attract spam than aving an address on your local internet service provider because hackers gain a lot more by hacking into large systems than small ones. But if you are worried about spam, Rovernet will probably not be the source. If you do begin to get a lot of spam, you can always change your email address. Ray, I think I can speak for most American Rovernetters when I say that we cherish new members from Down Under because they tend to balance out the Canadian influences on the list! ;-) Welcome! Glen ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ End of Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 26 **************************************** _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From kkinard at att.net Wed Nov 25 21:17:36 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:17:36 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Last word p4 110 gearbox wanted In-Reply-To: <3CAE569CC357457B9DB1C6A0DE2FF427@ChloePC> References: <mailman.1.1259082004.2447.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <4B0C39C0.1050002@gmail.com> <3CAE569CC357457B9DB1C6A0DE2FF427@ChloePC> Message-ID: <4B0DE540.4040503@att.net> > > To replace the tranny in your P4 w. OD, you will need a P4 transmission > (with or without OD) or a P5 tranny with OD. > If you use a P5 w. OD > tranny, you will have to swap the OD from the P4 onto the back of the P5 > w. OD trans. I could have just edited some more, couldn't I.:-) Roveregurgitatively, Kent K. From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Nov 25 22:43:11 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:43:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6 Owners' Club Emergency General Meeting Message-ID: <12982.94273.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those of us who are MEMBERS of the P6 ROC and to those who live in the UK or who choose to be in striking distance of the P6ROC EGM, here's what someone told me: The P6ROC EGM is going tobe held on Sunday 27th December at Brooklands Hotel, M1 Junction 37. Which is near Barnsley, just south of Leeds. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php From marco.m.morana at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 17:20:02 2009 From: marco.m.morana at gmail.com (Marco M. Morana) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:02 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage In-Reply-To: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019ABCBA@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> References: <157888.31971.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019ABCBA@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <4b0dad94.9453f10a.2033.06dd@mx.google.com> Molto bella.. Marco -----Original Message----- From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com [mailto:gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:51 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Cc: massimo at erregi.it; marcello.lombardo at enel.com; glombardo at hotmail.it; marco.m.morana at gmail.com Subject: R: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage It is a splendid car. I'll foreward the reclame. Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: luned? 23 novembre 2009 20.08 A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage Hi, We have a new Rover advertised on our website: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm It is a 1962 LHD Rover 100 Mk. IV. It has a long and impressive history in the RCCC. It included new leather seats?and carpet in it's rebuild. Pictures and owner contact details?through the web page link, above. Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovejag at hotmail.com Thu Nov 26 00:55:21 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:55:21 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 Message-ID: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0@phx.gbl> I recently read that the 110 Weslake Head is different from that of the P5 MK2? Is this correct, or is it the usual anti-British car stuff we live with? Ray _________________________________________________________________ Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon World Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/d383c449/attachment.html> From peter_m at amnet.net.au Thu Nov 26 01:43:22 2009 From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:43:22 +0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: Ignition Coil / Condenser Ignorance - information sought please In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <000e01ca6e63$c0344870$409cd950$@net.au> Hello Rovernetters, I posted a note a few weeks ago about my P6B cutting out suddenly when under power after running for a while. I received some helpful comments pointing the finger at the condenser in the distributor and the ignition coil. Neither of these parts are expensive and I've decided to replace both as an alternative to paying to diagnose the problem. So now I am seeking a compatible ignition coil to the Lucas 16 C 6. Despite the power of the Internet and Google I can't manage a query that says 'tell me what would be a comparable coil to the unavailable Lucas 16 C 6'. I did pick up a new Bosch SU12R which is of course, 12 volts. Paul Smith had suggested picking up these items second hand from a second-hand Japanese car being wrecked, and I could do that too, but I would need to be sure that what I obtained was compatible with the 16C6 coil. My electrical knowledge is to put it bluntly, not strong, around that of a gnat, and I would be most grateful to members for advice on the names and part numbers for an appropriate replacement coil and condenser. Many thanks Peter Mitchell Perth Western Australia Notable Rover Event: Driving in the family Rover P3 from Perth across to Melbourne and return, in 1963, a distance of 3430 kilometres each way, in the middle of summer. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13780 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/fb774bb4/attachment.html> From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Thu Nov 26 07:05:44 2009 From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:05:44 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 References: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP494C5D3D389B3EC14F0CBB959B0@phx.gbl> Hi Ray You are correct the westlake head is quite different from the older Mk2's. However I believe it can be used on the earlier engines. regards Ben (irishrover) ************* Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/3fd36ded/attachment.html> From pjemail at aol.com Thu Nov 26 07:15:06 2009 From: pjemail at aol.com (pjemail at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:15:06 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP494C5D3D389B3EC14F0CBB959B0@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0@phx.gbl> <BLU0-SMTP494C5D3D389B3EC14F0CBB959B0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <8CC3CA938FC60DC-17A4-2F78F@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> The Weslake head on the 110 is identical to that on contemporary 3 Litre models. The (separate) inlet manifold is different however. The possible source of confusion may arise from the fact that there was a change to the Weslake head which took place at the very end of 110 production. The head was modified to strengthen it by the inclusion of a centrally placed web from front to rear and this necessitated a new oil draining method (achieved by the addition of a drain hole on the left rear corner). This change affected only very few 110 models (with suffix B engines), but was incorporated on all 3 Litres from the same point in time (I believe this was engine suffix C, but I have not got my parts lists in front of me as I write. The mark III models continued with the modified head. Regards, Pierre Janusz -----Original Message----- From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:05 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 Hi Ray You are correct the westlake head is quite different from the older Mk2's. However I believe it can be used on the earlier engines. regards Ben (irishrover) ************* Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com _______________________________________________ overnet mailing list overnet at rovernet.ca ere is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: ttp://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca ere are the old Rovernet archives: ttp://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ oin the Back-up list and post photos at: ttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/b588b627/attachment-0001.html> From kkinard at att.net Thu Nov 26 08:39:38 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:39:38 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4B0E851A.3010207@att.net> Hi Ray, The P4 110 cylinder head is identical (same part number) to the P5 Mk. IIa and Mk. IIb. The P5 Mk. IIc uses a head and block that incorporates an extra oil drainback passage. To use the "wrong" Weslake head, you can plug the oil return passage on either the block or head, whichever has the extra passage. Roverly, Kent K. Graeme Rover wrote: > I recently read that the 110 Weslake Head is different from that of > the P5 MK2? > > Is this correct, or is it the usual anti-British car stuff we live with? > > > Ray > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live Download new and classic > emoticon packs at Emoticon World > <http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx?> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From kkinard at att.net Thu Nov 26 08:43:59 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:43:59 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 In-Reply-To: <4B0E851A.3010207@att.net> References: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0@phx.gbl> <4B0E851A.3010207@att.net> Message-ID: <4B0E861F.1040206@att.net> Just read Pierre's reply. He is better off the top of his head than I am with my books! Roverly, Kent K. Kent Kinard wrote: > Hi Ray, > The P4 110 cylinder head is identical (same part number) to the P5 Mk. > IIa and Mk. IIb. The P5 Mk. IIc uses a head and block that > incorporates an extra oil drainback passage. To use the "wrong" > Weslake head, you can plug the oil return passage on either the block > or head, whichever has the extra passage. > > Roverly, > Kent K. From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Thu Nov 26 10:01:31 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:01:31 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 3500 coils. In-Reply-To: <mailman.34.1259237713.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.34.1259237713.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W61D22DCEDC8C5438A365A08E9B0@phx.gbl> > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:43:22 +0800 > From: "Peter Mitchell" <peter_m at amnet.net.au> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: Ignition Coil / Condenser > Ignorance - information sought please > To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <000e01ca6e63$c0344870$409cd950$@net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Rovernetters, > > > > I posted a note a few weeks ago about my P6B cutting out suddenly when under > power after running for a while. > > > > I received some helpful comments pointing the finger at the condenser in the > distributor and the ignition coil. > > > > Neither of these parts are expensive and I've decided to replace both as an > alternative to paying to diagnose the problem. > > > > So now I am seeking a compatible ignition coil to the Lucas 16 C 6. Despite > the power of the Internet and Google I can't manage a query that says 'tell > me what would be a comparable coil to the unavailable Lucas 16 C 6'. I did > pick up a new Bosch SU12R which is of course, 12 volts. > > > > Paul Smith had suggested picking up these items second hand from a > second-hand Japanese car being wrecked, and I could do that too, but I would > need to be sure that what I obtained was compatible with the 16C6 coil. > > > > My electrical knowledge is to put it bluntly, not strong, around that of a > gnat, and I would be most grateful to members for advice on the names and > part numbers for an appropriate replacement coil and condenser. > > > > Many thanks > > > > Peter Mitchell > > Perth Western Australia > > > > http://apps.bosch.com.au/products/saa/ignition_coils.pdf I would recommend the Bosch GT40R coil. This is a high energy coil, you will have less problems with plug fouling etc. I am assuming that you are running a ballast resistor. If you are not running a ballast resistor then go a strait GT40 coil. The SU12R should work work though. You should find this one at most parts stores as a stock item. I have run a GT40 coil on my Rover 2000 for many years with great success. http://www.bosch.com.au/content/language1/downloads/Ignitioncatalogue07.pdf Does not have points or condensor listed on Bosch. It does list a cap for the 3500 motor. QUINTON HAZELL Part # XCON66 is listed on Rockauto.com for points for 1972 Rover 3500S. QUINTON HAZELL Part # XCON66 for condensor. I have bought QH in Australia before. If you know a parts store with intelligent life working behind the counter, then they may be able to cross reference to something else. Otherwise rockauto.com do ship internationally and those parts would cost very little to ship. James. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/d934ec2c/attachment.html> From phing at videotron.ca Thu Nov 26 11:12:19 2009 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:12:19 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] The black helicopters are on the way ! was Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <4B0D96D0.8070302@comcast.net> References: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> <4B0D7FB1.6070404@att.net> <4B0D96D0.8070302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005a01ca6eb3$3a8de6e0$afa9b4a0$@ca> Glen Paranoia alert , Canadian Rovers massing along the border !!!! ! Beware Universal health care and black helicopters full of French speaking Rover drivers wearing UN blue berets are only hours away !!!Who says Glen has a lock on crazy posts ?? Cheers Patrick -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Glen Wilson Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:43 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member Kent Kinard wrote: > Graeme Rover wrote: >> >> Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch >> which is rather nice. >> >> My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my >> gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i >> immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I >> imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. >> > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty > safe. > > Roverly, > Kent K. Once in about 10 or 15 years! Actually, having your real name on an email address doesn't really represent any sort of a risk unless you are prone to threatening heads of state in your emails. Also, having an email address on a large service like Hotmail is more likely to attract spam than aving an address on your local internet service provider because hackers gain a lot more by hacking into large systems than small ones. But if you are worried about spam, Rovernet will probably not be the source. If you do begin to get a lot of spam, you can always change your email address. Ray, I think I can speak for most American Rovernetters when I say that we cherish new members from Down Under because they tend to balance out the Canadian influences on the list! ;-) Welcome! Glen _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rweasel at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 11:29:26 2009 From: rweasel at gmail.com (Reverend Weasel) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:29:26 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] The black helicopters are on the way ! was Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <005a01ca6eb3$3a8de6e0$afa9b4a0$@ca> References: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> <4B0D7FB1.6070404@att.net> <4B0D96D0.8070302@comcast.net> <005a01ca6eb3$3a8de6e0$afa9b4a0$@ca> Message-ID: <86b191ca0911260829qa9bb972re7c6a6576c02919a@mail.gmail.com> Eh, bien. Les bons temps roulez! 2009/11/26 Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> > Glen > Paranoia alert , Canadian Rovers massing along the border !!!! > ! Beware Universal health care and black helicopters full of French > speaking Rover drivers wearing UN blue berets are only hours away !!!Who > says Glen has a lock on crazy posts ?? > Cheers > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of Glen Wilson > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:43 PM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member > > Kent Kinard wrote: > > Graeme Rover wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch > >> which is rather nice. > >> > >> My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my > >> gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i > >> immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I > >> imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. > >> > > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty > > safe. > > > > Roverly, > > Kent K. > > Once in about 10 or 15 years! Actually, having your real name on an > email address doesn't really represent any sort of a risk unless you are > prone to threatening heads of state in your emails. Also, having an > email address on a large service like Hotmail is more likely to attract > spam than aving an address on your local internet service provider > because hackers gain a lot more by hacking into large systems than small > ones. But if you are worried about spam, Rovernet will probably not be > the source. If you do begin to get a lot of spam, you can always change > your email address. > > Ray, I think I can speak for most American Rovernetters when I say that > we cherish new members from Down Under because they tend to balance out > the Canadian influences on the list! > > ;-) > > Welcome! > > Glen > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -- Casta est quam nemo rogavit. - Ovid -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/f1018656/attachment.html> From rweasel at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 11:30:18 2009 From: rweasel at gmail.com (Reverend Weasel) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:30:18 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] The black helicopters are on the way ! was Hello From New Member In-Reply-To: <005a01ca6eb3$3a8de6e0$afa9b4a0$@ca> References: <BLU114-W25E421852F51B3ED013522AD9C0@phx.gbl> <4B0D7FB1.6070404@att.net> <4B0D96D0.8070302@comcast.net> <005a01ca6eb3$3a8de6e0$afa9b4a0$@ca> Message-ID: <86b191ca0911260830v545d84cbrfc6b86575778b338@mail.gmail.com> Eh bien. Les bons temps roulez! 2009/11/26 Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca> > Glen > Paranoia alert , Canadian Rovers massing along the border !!!! > ! Beware Universal health care and black helicopters full of French > speaking Rover drivers wearing UN blue berets are only hours away !!!Who > says Glen has a lock on crazy posts ?? > Cheers > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On > Behalf Of Glen Wilson > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:43 PM > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello From New Member > > Kent Kinard wrote: > > Graeme Rover wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for the welcoming chaps...seems like you are a friendly bunch > >> which is rather nice. > >> > >> My son-in-law devised hotmail for me and tells me he used my > >> gradson's name and Rover as a securuty measure and what did I do, i > >> immediately blurted out my real name in my first posting?! Oh well I > >> imagine this site isnt a target for international hackers. > >> > > We have only been hit once, but that was enough. Eric keeps us pretty > > safe. > > > > Roverly, > > Kent K. > > Once in about 10 or 15 years! Actually, having your real name on an > email address doesn't really represent any sort of a risk unless you are > prone to threatening heads of state in your emails. Also, having an > email address on a large service like Hotmail is more likely to attract > spam than aving an address on your local internet service provider > because hackers gain a lot more by hacking into large systems than small > ones. But if you are worried about spam, Rovernet will probably not be > the source. If you do begin to get a lot of spam, you can always change > your email address. > > Ray, I think I can speak for most American Rovernetters when I say that > we cherish new members from Down Under because they tend to balance out > the Canadian influences on the list! > > ;-) > > Welcome! > > Glen > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -- Casta est quam nemo rogavit. - Ovid -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/bace5c95/attachment.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Thu Nov 26 12:55:04 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 30 In-Reply-To: <mailman.36.1259253015.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.36.1259253015.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W382B3CFE5547A5CC534CF08E9B0@phx.gbl> > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:01:31 -0500 > From: James Radcliffe > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 3500 coils. > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > >> Message: 5 >> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:43:22 +0800 >> From: "Peter Mitchell" >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: Ignition Coil / Condenser >> Ignorance - information sought please >> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" >> >> Message-ID: <000e01ca6e63$c0344870$409cd950$@net.au> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hello Rovernetters, >> >> >> >> I posted a note a few weeks ago about my P6B cutting out suddenly when under >> power after running for a while. >> >> >> >> I received some helpful comments pointing the finger at the condenser in the >> distributor and the ignition coil. >> >> >> >> Neither of these parts are expensive and I've decided to replace both as an >> alternative to paying to diagnose the problem. >> >> >> >> So now I am seeking a compatible ignition coil to the Lucas 16 C 6. Despite >> the power of the Internet and Google I can't manage a query that says 'tell >> me what would be a comparable coil to the unavailable Lucas 16 C 6'. I did >> pick up a new Bosch SU12R which is of course, 12 volts. >> >> >> >> Paul Smith had suggested picking up these items second hand from a >> second-hand Japanese car being wrecked, and I could do that too, but I would >> need to be sure that what I obtained was compatible with the 16C6 coil. >> >> >> >> My electrical knowledge is to put it bluntly, not strong, around that of a >> gnat, and I would be most grateful to members for advice on the names and >> part numbers for an appropriate replacement coil and condenser. >> >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> >> Peter Mitchell >> >> Perth Western Australia >> >> >> >> > http://apps.bosch.com.au/products/saa/ignition_coils.pdf > > > I would recommend the Bosch GT40R coil. This is a high energy coil, you will have less problems with plug fouling etc. I am assuming that you are running a ballast resistor. If you are not running a ballast resistor then go a strait GT40 coil. The SU12R should work work though. You should find this one at most parts stores as a stock item. I have run a GT40 coil on my Rover 2000 for many years with great success. > > http://www.bosch.com.au/content/language1/downloads/Ignitioncatalogue07.pdf > > Does not have points or condensor listed on Bosch. It does list a cap for the 3500 motor. > > QUINTON HAZELL Part # XCON66 is listed on Rockauto.com for points for 1972 Rover 3500S. > > QUINTON HAZELL Part # XCON66 for condensor. > > I have bought QH in Australia before. If you know a parts store with intelligent life working behind the counter, then they may be able to cross reference to something else. Otherwise rockauto.com do ship internationally and those parts would cost very little to ship. > > James. > > The other place which might be worth trying is Triumph Rover Spares. They do a lot of Rover V8 parts. http://www.triumphroverspares.com.au/ They are in Lonsdale South Australia. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au Thu Nov 26 04:42:06 2009 From: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au (scott) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:42:06 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 Message-ID: <20091126094206.9050.qmail@bne004wm.server-mail.com> Yes, it is not as wide because of the limited space under the P4 bonnet. It is not quite as efficient, buit does the job. Thankyou, Scott. > I recently read that the 110 Weslake Head is different from that of the P5 MK2? > > > > Is this correct, or is it the usual anti-British car stuff we live with? > > > > > > Ray > > ________________________________________________________________ _ > Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon World Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx? -- 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday. www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models, P.O. Box 107 Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia. Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023 http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter) scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au Closed Saturday and Sunday. From den at aachenkennels.com Thu Nov 26 17:59:06 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:59:06 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 29 References: <mailman.34.1259237713.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817A9@Server.adoptsec.local> Could someone let me know how to change the setting to allow me to receive as individual emails and not as digest. Receiving emails this long is driving me nuts( although my wife would say I arrived many years ago) Den Gallacher. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2009 8:15 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 29 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Last word p4 110 gearbox wanted (Kent Kinard) 2. Rover P6 Owners' Club Emergency General Meeting (Eric Russell) 3. Re: Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage (Marco M. Morana) 4. 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 (Graeme Rover) 5. P6B: Ignition Coil / Condenser Ignorance - information sought please (Peter Mitchell) 6. Re: 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 (BEN RODGERS) 7. Re: 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 (pjemail at aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:17:36 -0600 From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Last word p4 110 gearbox wanted To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0DE540.4040503 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > To replace the tranny in your P4 w. OD, you will need a P4 transmission > (with or without OD) or a P5 tranny with OD. > If you use a P5 w. OD > tranny, you will have to swap the OD from the P4 onto the back of the P5 > w. OD trans. I could have just edited some more, couldn't I.:-) Roveregurgitatively, Kent K. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:43:11 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6 Owners' Club Emergency General Meeting To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <12982.94273.qm at web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For those of us who are MEMBERS of the P6 ROC and to those who live in the UK or who choose to be in striking distance of the P6ROC EGM, here's what someone told me: The P6ROC EGM is going tobe held on Sunday 27th December at Brooklands Hotel, M1 Junction 37. Which is near Barnsley, just south of Leeds. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:02 -0500 From: "Marco M. Morana" <marco.m.morana at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage To: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>, <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Cc: marcello.lombardo at enel.com, glombardo at hotmail.it, massimo at erregi.it Message-ID: <4b0dad94.9453f10a.2033.06dd at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Molto bella.. Marco -----Original Message----- From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com [mailto:gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:51 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Cc: massimo at erregi.it; marcello.lombardo at enel.com; glombardo at hotmail.it; marco.m.morana at gmail.com Subject: R: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage It is a splendid car. I'll foreward the reclame. Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: luned? 23 novembre 2009 20.08 A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage Hi, We have a new Rover advertised on our website: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm It is a 1962 LHD Rover 100 Mk. IV. It has a long and impressive history in the RCCC. It included new leather seats?and carpet in it's rebuild. Pictures and owner contact details?through the web page link, above. Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:55:21 +1100 From: Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I recently read that the 110 Weslake Head is different from that of the P5 MK2? Is this correct, or is it the usual anti-British car stuff we live with? Ray _________________________________________________________________ Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon World Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/ d383c449/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:43:22 +0800 From: "Peter Mitchell" <peter_m at amnet.net.au> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: Ignition Coil / Condenser Ignorance - information sought please To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <000e01ca6e63$c0344870$409cd950$@net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Rovernetters, I posted a note a few weeks ago about my P6B cutting out suddenly when under power after running for a while. I received some helpful comments pointing the finger at the condenser in the distributor and the ignition coil. Neither of these parts are expensive and I've decided to replace both as an alternative to paying to diagnose the problem. So now I am seeking a compatible ignition coil to the Lucas 16 C 6. Despite the power of the Internet and Google I can't manage a query that says 'tell me what would be a comparable coil to the unavailable Lucas 16 C 6'. I did pick up a new Bosch SU12R which is of course, 12 volts. Paul Smith had suggested picking up these items second hand from a second-hand Japanese car being wrecked, and I could do that too, but I would need to be sure that what I obtained was compatible with the 16C6 coil. My electrical knowledge is to put it bluntly, not strong, around that of a gnat, and I would be most grateful to members for advice on the names and part numbers for an appropriate replacement coil and condenser. Many thanks Peter Mitchell Perth Western Australia Notable Rover Event: Driving in the family Rover P3 from Perth across to Melbourne and return, in 1963, a distance of 3430 kilometres each way, in the middle of summer. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13780 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/ fb774bb4/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:05:44 -0400 From: "BEN RODGERS" <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP494C5D3D389B3EC14F0CBB959B0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Ray You are correct the westlake head is quite different from the older Mk2's. However I believe it can be used on the earlier engines. regards Ben (irishrover) ************* Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/ 3fd36ded/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:15:06 -0500 From: pjemail at aol.com Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Message-ID: <8CC3CA938FC60DC-17A4-2F78F at webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Weslake head on the 110 is identical to that on contemporary 3 Litre models. The (separate) inlet manifold is different however. The possible source of confusion may arise from the fact that there was a change to the Weslake head which took place at the very end of 110 production. The head was modified to strengthen it by the inclusion of a centrally placed web from front to rear and this necessitated a new oil draining method (achieved by the addition of a drain hole on the left rear corner). This change affected only very few 110 models (with suffix B engines), but was incorporated on all 3 Litres from the same point in time (I believe this was engine suffix C, but I have not got my parts lists in front of me as I write. The mark III models continued with the modified head. Regards, Pierre Janusz -----Original Message----- From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:05 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 Hi Ray You are correct the westlake head is quite different from the older Mk2's. However I believe it can be used on the earlier engines. regards Ben (irishrover) ************* Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com _______________________________________________ overnet mailing list overnet at rovernet.ca ere is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: ttp://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca ere are the old Rovernet archives: ttp://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ oin the Back-up list and post photos at: ttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Eric List Admin. "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Thu, November 26, 2009 2:59:06 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 29 Could someone let me know how to change the setting to allow me to receive as individual emails and not as digest. Receiving emails this long is driving me nuts( although my wife would say I arrived many years ago) Den Gallacher. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2009 8:15 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 29 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to which you are referring. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Last word p4 110 gearbox wanted (Kent Kinard) 2. Rover P6 Owners' Club Emergency General Meeting (Eric Russell) 3. Re: Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage (Marco M. Morana) 4. 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 (Graeme Rover) 5. P6B: Ignition Coil / Condenser Ignorance - information sought please (Peter Mitchell) 6. Re: 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 (BEN RODGERS) 7. Re: 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 (pjemail at aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:17:36 -0600 From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Last word p4 110 gearbox wanted To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <4B0DE540.4040503 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > To replace the tranny in your P4 w. OD, you will need a P4 transmission > (with or without OD) or a P5 tranny with OD. > If you use a P5 w. OD > tranny, you will have to swap the OD from the P4 onto the back of the P5 > w. OD trans. I could have just edited some more, couldn't I.:-) Roveregurgitatively, Kent K. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:43:11 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6 Owners' Club Emergency General Meeting To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <12982.94273.qm at web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For those of us who are MEMBERS of the P6 ROC and to those who live in the UK or who choose to be in striking distance of the P6ROC EGM, here's what someone told me: The P6ROC EGM is going tobe held on Sunday 27th December at Brooklands Hotel, M1 Junction 37. Which is near Barnsley, just south of Leeds. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:02 -0500 From: "Marco M. Morana" <marco.m.morana at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage To: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>, <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Cc: marcello.lombardo at enel.com, glombardo at hotmail.it, massimo at erregi.it Message-ID: <4b0dad94.9453f10a.2033.06dd at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Molto bella.. Marco -----Original Message----- From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com [mailto:gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:51 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Cc: massimo at erregi.it; marcello.lombardo at enel.com; glombardo at hotmail.it; marco.m.morana at gmail.com Subject: R: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage It is a splendid car. I'll foreward the reclame. Best regards, gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: luned? 23 novembre 2009 20.08 A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 just added to the RCCC For Salepage Hi, We have a new Rover advertised on our website: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm It is a 1962 LHD Rover 100 Mk. IV. It has a long and impressive history in the RCCC. It included new leather seats?and carpet in it's rebuild. Pictures and owner contact details?through the web page link, above. Eric ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:55:21 +1100 From: Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU114-W1941280E3DF26466F1A664AD9B0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I recently read that the 110 Weslake Head is different from that of the P5 MK2? Is this correct, or is it the usual anti-British car stuff we live with? Ray _________________________________________________________________ Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon World Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/ d383c449/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:43:22 +0800 From: "Peter Mitchell" <peter_m at amnet.net.au> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6B: Ignition Coil / Condenser Ignorance - information sought please To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <000e01ca6e63$c0344870$409cd950$@net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Rovernetters, I posted a note a few weeks ago about my P6B cutting out suddenly when under power after running for a while. I received some helpful comments pointing the finger at the condenser in the distributor and the ignition coil. Neither of these parts are expensive and I've decided to replace both as an alternative to paying to diagnose the problem. So now I am seeking a compatible ignition coil to the Lucas 16 C 6. Despite the power of the Internet and Google I can't manage a query that says 'tell me what would be a comparable coil to the unavailable Lucas 16 C 6'. I did pick up a new Bosch SU12R which is of course, 12 volts. Paul Smith had suggested picking up these items second hand from a second-hand Japanese car being wrecked, and I could do that too, but I would need to be sure that what I obtained was compatible with the 16C6 coil. My electrical knowledge is to put it bluntly, not strong, around that of a gnat, and I would be most grateful to members for advice on the names and part numbers for an appropriate replacement coil and condenser. Many thanks Peter Mitchell Perth Western Australia Notable Rover Event: Driving in the family Rover P3 from Perth across to Melbourne and return, in 1963, a distance of 3430 kilometres each way, in the middle of summer. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13780 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/ fb774bb4/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:05:44 -0400 From: "BEN RODGERS" <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP494C5D3D389B3EC14F0CBB959B0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Ray You are correct the westlake head is quite different from the older Mk2's. However I believe it can be used on the earlier engines. regards Ben (irishrover) ************* Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091126/ 3fd36ded/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:15:06 -0500 From: pjemail at aol.com Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Message-ID: <8CC3CA938FC60DC-17A4-2F78F at webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Weslake head on the 110 is identical to that on contemporary 3 Litre models. The (separate) inlet manifold is different however. The possible source of confusion may arise from the fact that there was a change to the Weslake head which took place at the very end of 110 production. The head was modified to strengthen it by the inclusion of a centrally placed web from front to rear and this necessitated a new oil draining method (achieved by the addition of a drain hole on the left rear corner). This change affected only very few 110 models (with suffix B engines), but was incorporated on all 3 Litres from the same point in time (I believe this was engine suffix C, but I have not got my parts lists in front of me as I write. The mark III models continued with the modified head. Regards, Pierre Janusz -----Original Message----- From: BEN RODGERS <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:05 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 110 Inlet Manifold vs P5 Mk2 Hi Ray You are correct the westlake head is quite different from the older Mk2's. However I believe it can be used on the earlier engines. regards Ben (irishrover) ************* Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com _______________________________________________ overnet mailing list overnet at rovernet.ca ere is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: ttp://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca ere are the old Rovernet archives: ttp://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ oin the Back-up list and post photos at: ttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From den at aachenkennels.com Thu Nov 26 18:44:06 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:44:06 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ignition Coil References: <mailman.38.1259277772.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817B3@Server.adoptsec.local> Good Morning Peter, If you do go down the Bosch path and don't want to make it to obvious give me a call as I have a few Lucas coil transfers you can have for a donation to the WA Rover club. However researching bits and parts for the P2 special rebuild I have found many sites on the net that deal with modern electronic ignition conversions. They even have some that are completely hidden inside the dizzy thereby keeping all the original looks on the outside. One that intrigued me (think it's call 'magnetron' not even sure if I spelt it right) is based on electro magnets or some such. Any one on the list know more or if they are any good or not? Den Gallacher. From rovejag at hotmail.com Thu Nov 26 19:24:28 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:24:28 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Message-ID: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl> Hello Again, Thanks for the welcomes and also for the answers to my question re Weslake heads. I can see that the knowledge and expertise on this list is going to mean that I shall have to vey precise with my wording of questions! What I really meant to ask was, and I apologise for my sloppy wording, is the P4 110 Weslake head with inlet manifold, narrower than the P5 Weslake head with inlet manifold? Your replies have answered that question, thank you, and so as a follow up question, would a P5 Weslake head with P5 inlet manifold fit directly into a P4, or would a P4 110 inlet manifold be required due to width restrictions? 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091127/1b552955/attachment.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Nov 26 19:53:10 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:53:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1966 Rover TC 2000 for sale Victoria, BC, Canada Message-ID: <932066.91651.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, We have another Rover advertised on our website: 1966 Rover TC 2000 Details here: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm One owner car, freshly restored, correct colour combinations Ref: http://www.roverp6.info/P6%20production%20colours.htm Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ From scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au Thu Nov 26 21:11:22 2009 From: scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au (Scott Richmond) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:11:22 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc> You can use the engine with manifold, but you can not use the air cleaner. Thankyou, Scott. www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday. Closed Saturday and Sunday. Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models, P.O. Box 107 (12 Haughton Road) Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia. Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023 http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter) ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Hello Again, Thanks for the welcomes and also for the answers to my question re Weslake heads. I can see that the knowledge and expertise on this list is going to mean that I shall have to vey precise with my wording of questions! What I really meant to ask was, and I apologise for my sloppy wording, is the P4 110 Weslake head with inlet manifold, narrower than the P5 Weslake head with inlet manifold? Your replies have answered that question, thank you, and so as a follow up question, would a P5 Weslake head with P5 inlet manifold fit directly into a P4, or would a P4 110 inlet manifold be required due to width restrictions? Thank You Ray ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a date? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091127/55b142d3/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Fri Nov 27 00:43:15 2009 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ignition Coil In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817B3@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <1376500979.7134221259300595468.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sounds very much like what is sold in the US as Pertronix. It uses magnets mounted in a ring to trigger the electronics. It all fits inside the distributor cap. The pnly obvious difference is two wires coming out of the distributor body instead of one. They work quite well and come in both positive and negative ground confiurations. Try www.pertronix.com . Slats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 3:44:06 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ignition Coil Good Morning Peter, If you do go down the Bosch path and don't want to make it to obvious give me a call as I have a few Lucas coil transfers you can have for a donation to the WA Rover club. However researching bits and parts for the P2 special rebuild I have found many sites on the net that deal with modern electronic ignition conversions. They even have some that are completely hidden inside the dizzy thereby keeping all the original looks on the outside. One that intrigued me (think it's call 'magnetron' not even sure if I spelt it right) is based on electro magnets or some such. Any one on the list know more or if they are any good or not? 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091127/8014b587/attachment.html> From michael.maher at virgin.net Fri Nov 27 06:40:51 2009 From: michael.maher at virgin.net (Mike Maher) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:40:51 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl> <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc> Message-ID: <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> With a bit of adjustment, things can be made to fit, it depends what you want out of the car. At a local Rover Rally this year, I saw a 95 that had been fitted with a 3 ltr engine. The air filter arragement had been replaced with an aftermarket K&N filter mounted to the carb. The induction noise is most un Rover like, but the car goes better than the standard set up. Another 100 that I know of, has been fitted with a 3 ltr engine and with some shaving down the elbow to the standard air filter and a small section cut from the flat return on the bonnet (hood) the stock setup fits. This particular car has been raced at Silverstone in the VSCC races and has surprised drivers of more exotic machinery. Mike Maher ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Richmond To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake You can use the engine with manifold, but you can not use the air cleaner. Thankyou, Scott. www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday. Closed Saturday and Sunday. Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models, P.O. Box 107 (12 Haughton Road) Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia. Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023 http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter) ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Hello Again, Thanks for the welcomes and also for the answers to my question re Weslake heads. I can see that the knowledge and expertise on this list is going to mean that I shall have to vey precise with my wording of questions! What I really meant to ask was, and I apologise for my sloppy wording, is the P4 110 Weslake head with inlet manifold, narrower than the P5 Weslake head with inlet manifold? Your replies have answered that question, thank you, and so as a follow up question, would a P5 Weslake head with P5 inlet manifold fit directly into a P4, or would a P4 110 inlet manifold be required due to width restrictions? 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091127/2430897b/attachment-0001.html> From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Fri Nov 27 12:00:38 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:00:38 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Good article in San Francisco Chronicle. In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W49E7ADBB383B4A5BFE644D8E9E0@phx.gbl> References: <SNT105-W49E7ADBB383B4A5BFE644D8E9E0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019AC94C@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Dear friends, very interesting. I'll foreward it to the friends of Registro Italiano Rover. Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di James Radcliffe Inviato: luned? 23 novembre 2009 4.35 A: rovernet at rovernet.ca Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Good article in San Francisco Chronicle. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/22/MT401ANVE9.DTL A good article by Al Boasberg about his Rover. Shows how well the Rovers last when well looked after. They are a bit more challenging when they have been off the road for 10 or 20 years, then brought back to life! James. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Fri Nov 27 12:00:35 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:00:35 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: 1966 Rover TC 2000 for sale Victoria, BC, Canada In-Reply-To: <932066.91651.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <932066.91651.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019AC94B@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Very beautiful car! Really unusual colour. Best regards, Gianluca. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Eric Russell Inviato: venerd? 27 novembre 2009 1.53 A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1966 Rover TC 2000 for sale Victoria, BC,Canada Hi, We have another Rover advertised on our website: 1966 Rover TC 2000 Details here: http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm One owner car, freshly restored, correct colour combinations Ref: http://www.roverp6.info/P6%20production%20colours.htm Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovejag at hotmail.com Fri Nov 27 16:31:34 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:31:34 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> Message-ID: <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> Hello, Thanks for your help Scott and Mike - my knowledge has been expanded in just 3 days on the list. I have been offered a shed-bound 100 with a Weslake head. It has the correct air cleaner and does not appear to have been modified in any way, so from what I have learned here, I can safely assume it has a genuine and complete 110 head, which I imagine is a pretty rare beast. All other things being equal, would this head transplant transform the performance of a 100 in any significant way and if so, would it introduce any decline in overall refinement? Sorry to be asking so many questions! Ray From: michael.maher at virgin.net To: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au; rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:40:51 +0000 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake With a bit of adjustment, things can be made to fit, it depends what you want out of the car. At a local Rover Rally this year, I saw a 95 that had been fitted with a 3 ltr engine. The air filter arragement had been replaced with an aftermarket K&N filter mounted to the carb. The induction noise is most un Rover like, but the car goes better than the standard set up. Another 100 that I know of, has been fitted with a 3 ltr engine and with some shaving down the elbow to the standard air filter and a small section cut from the flat return on the bonnet (hood) the stock setup fits. This particular car has been raced at Silverstone in the VSCC races and has surprised drivers of more exotic machinery. Mike Maher ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Richmond To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake You can use the engine with manifold, but you can not use the air cleaner. Thankyou, Scott. www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday. Closed Saturday and Sunday. Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models, P.O. Box 107 (12 Haughton Road) Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia. Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023 http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter) ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Hello Again, Thanks for the welcomes and also for the answers to my question re Weslake heads. I can see that the knowledge and expertise on this list is going to mean that I shall have to vey precise with my wording of questions! What I really meant to ask was, and I apologise for my sloppy wording, is the P4 110 Weslake head with inlet manifold, narrower than the P5 Weslake head with inlet manifold? Your replies have answered that question, thank you, and so as a follow up question, would a P5 Weslake head with P5 inlet manifold fit directly into a P4, or would a P4 110 inlet manifold be required due to width restrictions? Thank You Ray View photos of singles in your area! 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/1f1daac3/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Fri Nov 27 18:39:09 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:39:09 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4B10631D.9020807@att.net> Hi Ray, My guess is that the whole engine is a 110. Swapping a 110 head onto a 100 engine is a little more involved. Swapping in the 110 engine is a piece of cake. Better performance, better economy, longer lasting (all roller followers)...you can't do better. Roverly, Kent K. Graeme Rover wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks for your help Scott and Mike - my knowledge has been expanded > in just 3 days on the list. > > I have been offered a shed-bound 100 with a Weslake head. It has the > correct air cleaner and does not appear to have been modified in any > way, so from what I have learned here, I can safely assume it has a > genuine and complete 110 head, which I imagine is a pretty rare beast. > > All other things being equal, would this head transplant transform the > performance of a 100 in any significant way and if so, would it > introduce any decline in overall refinement? > > Sorry to be asking so many questions! > > Ray > > > From vmitps at netspace.net.au Fri Nov 27 18:42:23 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:42:23 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <B543611AC92049188E3E424F0F296FE9@Vista> Well, it shifts max torque from 1500rpm to 3000rpm and lifts the max power. So no more 4th gear starts, no more 1500rpm up hills. Those were Standard tests of tractability that Rovers used to pass. It does make the P4 more lively but since the revs are up a bit (since you use a lower gear) it is noisier. Take your pick! Personally I'd say do it. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Hello, Thanks for your help Scott and Mike - my knowledge has been expanded in just 3 days on the list. I have been offered a shed-bound 100 with a Weslake head. It has the correct air cleaner and does not appear to have been modified in any way, so from what I have learned here, I can safely assume it has a genuine and complete 110 head, which I imagine is a pretty rare beast. All other things being equal, would this head transplant transform the performance of a 100 in any significant way and if so, would it introduce any decline in overall refinement? Sorry to be asking so many questions! Ray ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: michael.maher at virgin.net To: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au; rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:40:51 +0000 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake With a bit of adjustment, things can be made to fit, it depends what you want out of the car. At a local Rover Rally this year, I saw a 95 that had been fitted with a 3 ltr engine. The air filter arragement had been replaced with an aftermarket K&N filter mounted to the carb. The induction noise is most un Rover like, but the car goes better than the standard set up. Another 100 that I know of, has been fitted with a 3 ltr engine and with some shaving down the elbow to the standard air filter and a small section cut from the flat return on the bonnet (hood) the stock setup fits. This particular car has been raced at Silverstone in the VSCC races and has surprised drivers of more exotic machinery. Mike Maher ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Richmond To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake You can use the engine with manifold, but you can not use the air cleaner. Thankyou, Scott. www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday. Closed Saturday and Sunday. Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models, P.O. Box 107 (12 Haughton Road) Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia. Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023 http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter) ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Hello Again, Thanks for the welcomes and also for the answers to my question re Weslake heads. I can see that the knowledge and expertise on this list is going to mean that I shall have to vey precise with my wording of questions! What I really meant to ask was, and I apologise for my sloppy wording, is the P4 110 Weslake head with inlet manifold, narrower than the P5 Weslake head with inlet manifold? Your replies have answered that question, thank you, and so as a follow up question, would a P5 Weslake head with P5 inlet manifold fit directly into a P4, or would a P4 110 inlet manifold be required due to width restrictions? 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/9230ee6f/attachment-0001.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Fri Nov 27 18:44:00 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:44:00 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <4B10631D.9020807@att.net> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0><BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> <4B10631D.9020807@att.net> Message-ID: <B70B4BB03C4A4A9AB31EDC5E83651209@Vista> 100s have the same block; 7 bearing, roller followers. Head is straight swap so far as I know; I haven't had the privilege of doing it. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake > Hi Ray, > My guess is that the whole engine is a 110. Swapping a 110 head onto a > 100 engine is a little more involved. Swapping in the 110 engine is a > piece of cake. Better performance, better economy, longer lasting (all > roller followers)...you can't do better. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > Graeme Rover wrote: >> Hello, >> Thanks for your help Scott and Mike - my knowledge has been expanded in >> just 3 days on the list. >> I have been offered a shed-bound 100 with a Weslake head. It has the >> correct air cleaner and does not appear to have been modified in any way, >> so from what I have learned here, I can safely assume it has a genuine >> and complete 110 head, which I imagine is a pretty rare beast. All >> other things being equal, would this head transplant transform the >> performance of a 100 in any significant way and if so, would it introduce >> any decline in overall refinement? >> Sorry to be asking so many questions! >> Ray >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From den at aachenkennels.com Fri Nov 27 18:59:55 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:59:55 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 going to be scrapped Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817C9@Server.adoptsec.local> This Lovely old car is up for auction in the UK. It look as if it would not take much to get it back on the road. Hope that someone in the UK could step in a save the old lad. http://www.copart.co.uk/c2/specialSearch.html?_eventId=getLot&execution= e2s3&lotId=19277839 Kind Regards. Den Gallacher -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Netspace wrote: > 100s have the same block; 7 bearing, roller followers. > Head is straight swap so far as I know; I haven't had the privilege of > doing it. > > PVS From rovejag at hotmail.com Fri Nov 27 19:17:58 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:17:58 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 Weslake Message-ID: <BLU114-W25F1FC8157DC1869491AE6AD990@phx.gbl> Hello, I always thought the 100, 95 and 110 had mechanically identical blocks and that the only major difference of any real significance was the Weslake head on the 110. And I have also always thought that the Weslake head would fit any 100 or post 100 engine. Ray _________________________________________________________________ Want to know what your boss is paid? Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/4db0b055/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Fri Nov 27 19:31:47 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:31:47 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 Weslake In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W25F1FC8157DC1869491AE6AD990@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W25F1FC8157DC1869491AE6AD990@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4B106F73.4040408@att.net> Well, I have both P5 Mk. I and P5 Mk. III engines, but I'm not going to tear them down just to see if the heads will swap!!!!!:-) Kent K. > > I always thought the 100, 95 and 110 had mechanically identical > blocks and that the only major difference of any real significance was > the Weslake head on the 110. > > And I have also always thought that the Weslake head would fit any 100 > or post 100 engine. > From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Nov 27 21:42:54 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:42:54 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <4B10631D.9020807@att.net> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> <4B10631D.9020807@att.net> Message-ID: <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net> Kent Kinard wrote: > Hi Ray, > My guess is that the whole engine is a 110. Swapping a 110 head onto > a 100 engine is a little more involved. Swapping in the 110 engine is > a piece of cake. Better performance, better economy, longer lasting > (all roller followers)...you can't do better. > > Roverly, > Kent K. Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen that already, haven't we Kent? Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! ;-) Glen > > Graeme Rover wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Thanks for your help Scott and Mike - my knowledge has been expanded >> in just 3 days on the list. >> >> I have been offered a shed-bound 100 with a Weslake head. It has the >> correct air cleaner and does not appear to have been modified in any >> way, so from what I have learned here, I can safely assume it has a >> genuine and complete 110 head, which I imagine is a pretty rare >> beast. >> All other things being equal, would this head transplant transform >> the performance of a 100 in any significant way and if so, would it >> introduce any decline in overall refinement? >> >> Sorry to be asking so many questions! >> >> Ray >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From vmitps at netspace.net.au Fri Nov 27 22:08:10 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:08:10 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl><4B10631D.9020807@att.net> <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net> Message-ID: <37038AAA9B4F44ADBE723FAD6178F3F3@Vista> 100s and 110s are single carb... ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake > Kent Kinard wrote: >> Hi Ray, >> My guess is that the whole engine is a 110. Swapping a 110 head onto a >> 100 engine is a little more involved. Swapping in the 110 engine is a >> piece of cake. Better performance, better economy, longer lasting (all >> roller followers)...you can't do better. >> >> Roverly, >> Kent K. > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to perdition. > The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple and installing > a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen that already, haven't > we Kent? > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > ;-) > > Glen > > > > >> >> Graeme Rover wrote: >>> Hello, >>> Thanks for your help Scott and Mike - my knowledge has been expanded in >>> just 3 days on the list. >>> I have been offered a shed-bound 100 with a Weslake head. It has the >>> correct air cleaner and does not appear to have been modified in any >>> way, so from what I have learned here, I can safely assume it has a >>> genuine and complete 110 head, which I imagine is a pretty rare beast. >>> All other things being equal, would this head transplant transform the >>> performance of a 100 in any significant way and if so, would it >>> introduce any decline in overall refinement? >>> Sorry to be asking so many questions! >>> Ray >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rovernet mailing list >> Rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or >> no-mail: >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> Here are the old Rovernet archives: >> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >> Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From kkinard at att.net Fri Nov 27 22:15:40 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> <4B10631D.9020807@att.net> <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> Glen Wilson wrote: > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen > that already, haven't we Kent? > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > ;-) You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to the purple car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and the paint...and the upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the small block Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. Roverheretically, Kent K. From rovejag at hotmail.com Sat Nov 28 00:03:01 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:03:01 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> <4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> Message-ID: <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl> I am told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 litre Leyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! By the way, I thought the only P4's with twin carbs were the 105's. Ray > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to > > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple > > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen > > that already, haven't we Kent? > > > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > > > ;-) > You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to the purple > car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and the paint...and the > upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the small block > Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. > > Roverheretically, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Want to know what your boss is paid? Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/5bc147a1/attachment-0001.html> From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Nov 28 00:05:38 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:05:38 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> <4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4B10AFA2.9000203@comcast.net> Graeme Rover wrote: > I am told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 > litre Leyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! > > By the way, I thought the only P4's with twin carbs were the 105's. > > Ray I guess you're correct Ray. I thought the 110 had dual carbs, but my memory must be getting foggy! Glen > > > > > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 > > From: kkinard at att.net > > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre > Weslake > > > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > > > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to > > > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple > > > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen > > > that already, haven't we Kent? > > > > > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > > > > > ;-) > > You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to the purple > > car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and the paint...and the > > upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the small block > > Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. > > > > Roverheretically, > > Kent K. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rovernet mailing list > > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or > no-mail: > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your > boss is paid? <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/5ca09950/attachment.html> From jpsco44 at aol.com Sat Nov 28 00:13:12 2009 From: jpsco44 at aol.com (jpsco44 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:13:12 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <4B10AFA2.9000203@comcast.net> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> <4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl> <4B10AFA2.9000203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC3E009DF08366-4C54-1320C@webmail-d098.sysops.aol.com> the early P4 75's (2103 cc engine) also had twin s.u .carburettors. -----Original Message----- From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, Nov 28, 2009 12:05 am Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Graeme Rover wrote: Iam told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 litreLeyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! By the way, I thought the only P4's with twin carbs were the 105's. Ray I guess you're correct Ray. I thought the 110 had dual carbs, but mymemory must be getting foggy! Glen > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3Litre Weslake > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of singlecarb > > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the roadto > > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting thecar purple > > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end.We've seen > > that already, haven't we Kent? > > > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > > > ;-) > You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to thepurple > car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and thepaint...and the > upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the smallblock > Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. > > Roverheretically, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode orno-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Wantto know what your boss is paid? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/0b0d7fc6/attachment.html> From rovejag at hotmail.com Sat Nov 28 00:26:40 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:26:40 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <8CC3E009DF08366-4C54-1320C@webmail-d098.sysops.aol.com> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, ,,<EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, ,,<007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> <4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, , <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, , <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl>, <4B10AFA2.9000203@comcast.net>, <8CC3E009DF08366-4C54-1320C@webmail-d098.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <BLU114-W4CE0902C99F7ED8BD2E30AD990@phx.gbl> Hello, Granted ..my mistake Ray To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:13:12 -0500 From: jpsco44 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake the early P4 75's (2103 cc engine) also had twin s.u .carburettors. -----Original Message----- From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, Nov 28, 2009 12:05 am Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Graeme Rover wrote: I am told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 litre Leyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! By the way, I thought the only P4's with twin carbs were the 105's. Ray I guess you're correct Ray. I thought the 110 had dual carbs, but my memory must be getting foggy! Glen > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to > > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple > > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen > > that already, haven't we Kent? > > > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > > > ;-) > You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to the purple > car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and the paint...and the > upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the small block > Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. > > Roverheretically, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid? _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _________________________________________________________________ Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon World Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/f130e18a/attachment-0001.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat Nov 28 00:27:40 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:27:40 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0><BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl><4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <6CDE104D506640278EB76757D50CDA3A@Vista> Early 75's had twin 1.5" I think that P4 is related to Scott, who appears here sometimes. A friend in Sydney at the time saw a P4 with a 327 and Holden 5pt rear. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake I am told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 litre Leyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! By the way, I thought the only P4's with twin carbs were the 105's. Ray > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to > > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple > > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen > > that already, haven't we Kent? > > > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > > > ;-) > You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to the purple > car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and the paint...and the > upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the small block > Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. > > Roverheretically, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/6f105505/attachment.html> From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Nov 28 02:18:05 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:18:05 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0><BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl><4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl> <6CDE104D506640278EB76757D50CDA3A@Vista> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D1@Server.adoptsec.local> I have a superb body from a 47 P2 sports along with most of the trim, dash and body chrome but nothing else. I've been toying with the idea of that once I have the Rover special done, then the 36 Rover Speed 14, the P6BS converted to inject and 4.6, I'll fit a P4 chassis underneath it. Kind of like the idea of ether going with a twin SU 3.5 or give the P4 engine a bit of a tune. The later would make getting it road approved a lot easier however so would a Daimler 2.5 V8. Just hope I'm young enough to enjoy it..(smile) From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 1:28 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Early 75's had twin 1.5" I think that P4 is related to Scott, who appears here sometimes. A friend in Sydney at the time saw a P4 with a 327 and Holden 5pt rear. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover <mailto:rovejag at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake I am told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 litre Leyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! By the way, I thought the only P4's with twin carbs were the 105's. Ray > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to > > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple > > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen > > that already, haven't we Kent? > > > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > > > ;-) > You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to the purple > car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and the paint...and the > upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the small block > Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. > > Roverheretically, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ________________________________ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid? <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/> ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/727aeda4/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat Nov 28 02:34:28 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:34:28 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D1@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0><BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl><4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl><6CDE104D506640278EB76757D50CDA3A@Vista> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D1@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <77287FA958D54BFDB24136C1FFDE14CB@Vista> Well I have always thought it would be easy to turbo a P4 (F head), and now you can get SU pattern throttle bodies with injectors, dead easy. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Gallacher To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 I have a superb body from a 47 P2 sports along with most of the trim, dash and body chrome but nothing else. I've been toying with the idea of that once I have the Rover special done, then the 36 Rover Speed 14, the P6BS converted to inject and 4.6, I'll fit a P4 chassis underneath it. Kind of like the idea of ether going with a twin SU 3.5 or give the P4 engine a bit of a tune. The later would make getting it road approved a lot easier however so would a Daimler 2.5 V8. Just hope I'm young enough to enjoy it..(smile) From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 1:28 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Early 75's had twin 1.5" I think that P4 is related to Scott, who appears here sometimes. A friend in Sydney at the time saw a P4 with a 327 and Holden 5pt rear. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake I am told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 litre Leyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! By the way, I thought the only P4's with twin carbs were the 105's. Ray > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to > > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple > > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen > > that already, haven't we Kent? > > > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > > > ;-) > You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to the purple > car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and the paint...and the > upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the small block > Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. > > Roverheretically, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/e840cb9c/attachment-0001.html> From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Nov 28 02:39:22 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:39:22 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0><BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl><4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net><BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl><6CDE104D506640278EB76757D50CDA3A@Vista><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D1@Server.adoptsec.local> <77287FA958D54BFDB24136C1FFDE14CB@Vista> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D5@Server.adoptsec.local> Where do you get the SU throttle bodies from? Would like to see them. Den. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 3:34 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Well I have always thought it would be easy to turbo a P4 (F head), and now you can get SU pattern throttle bodies with injectors, dead easy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Where do you get the SU throttle bodies from? Would like to see them. Den. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 3:34 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Well I have always thought it would be easy to turbo a P4 (F head), and now you can get SU pattern throttle bodies with injectors, dead easy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/3104e593/attachment.html> From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sat Nov 28 04:53:25 2009 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter H) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:53:25 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake In-Reply-To: <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> <4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <pls1h5hrk7t7e2h5vtaglghbqf3nu6ei64@4ax.com> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:03:01 +1100, you wrote: > >I am told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 litre Leyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! Here is the article on Scott's web page: http://www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au/Rover%20P4B.htm Cheers, Peter H From Pjemail at aol.com Sat Nov 28 04:57:27 2009 From: Pjemail at aol.com (Pjemail at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:57:27 EST Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Message-ID: <d5c.524dc72b.38424e07@aol.com> Here I am. All you need to do is change the pushrods, assuming the head comes complete with its valve gear. The side rockers on all 100s are of the separate roller type, but earlier ones are slightly different in design. I suppose I should also mentione the need to change the water pump. Pierre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm curious to see if what they have to offer will help in the P6BS project. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 3:43 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Extrudabody <mwiser at extrudabody.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Gallacher <mailto:den at aachenkennels.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Where do you get the SU throttle bodies from? Would like to see them. Den. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 3:34 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Well I have always thought it would be easy to turbo a P4 (F head), and now you can get SU pattern throttle bodies with injectors, dead easy. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/49e09be3/attachment-0001.html> From ABoasberg at webtv.net Sat Nov 28 10:27:17 2009 From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:27:17 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: "Dennis Gallacher" <den@aachenkennels.com>'s message of Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:18:05 +0900 Message-ID: <26438-4B114155-443@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> I know that the numbers 2000 in TC2000 and 3500 in 3500S refer to engine displacements. But are these references to cubic centimeters or inches? Thanks. Albert From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sat Nov 28 11:06:18 2009 From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:06:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: <26438-4B114155-443@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <463076.63895.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> They are in CCs. A 2000CC engine is a "2 liter." (both are metric measurements of volume.) Cheers, Nathan --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Albert Boasberg <ABoasberg at webtv.net> wrote: > From: Albert Boasberg <ABoasberg at webtv.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 9:27 AM > I know that the numbers 2000 in > TC2000 and 3500 in 3500S refer to engine > displacements. > > But are these references to cubic centimeters or inches? > > Thanks. > > Albert > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest > mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From vern at inkspotco.com Sat Nov 28 14:07:39 2009 From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:07:39 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: <26438-4B114155-443@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <26438-4B114155-443@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <B6994420-0C4F-4CEF-8C26-5ED7062C3007@inkspotco.com> CCs. On 2009-11-28, at 7:27 AM, Albert Boasberg wrote: > I know that the numbers 2000 in TC2000 and 3500 in 3500S refer to engine > displacements. > > But are these references to cubic centimeters or inches? > > Thanks. > > Albert > > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From ABoasberg at webtv.net Sat Nov 28 15:30:45 2009 From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:30:45 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: Vern Klukas <vern@inkspotco.com>'s message of Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:07:39 -0800 Message-ID: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> Thanks to all who replied. Now I know. Albert From lingfield51 at btinternet.com Sat Nov 28 16:00:57 2009 From: lingfield51 at btinternet.com (Juliet Keiler) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:00:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <361143.16798.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I can understand your confusion Albert. Swept volume in cubic centimetres, liquid volume in pints,quarts and imperial gallons, nuts and bolts in AF (some later parts of the P6 were metric) length and breadth all in feet and inches Power in Brake Horses, tyres size in inches, speed calibarated in miles per hours, odometer in miles etc etc etc. If you guys had built a Saturn V with the same mix of metric and imperial it would probably have finished up in the Kent Kinnard Rover Compound Yours mixedupidly Alan Francis (partviking) ________________________________ From: Albert Boasberg <ABoasberg at webtv.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, 28 November, 2009 20:30:45 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? Thanks to all who replied. Now I know. Albert _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/8ba5b0db/attachment.html> From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Sat Nov 28 16:02:33 2009 From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:02:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <8056.18024.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I can understand your confusion Albert. Swept volume in cubic centimetres, liquid volume in pints,quarts and imperial gallons, nuts and bolts in AF (some later parts of the P6 were metric) length and breadth all in feet and inches Power in Brake Horses, tyres size in inches, speed calibarated in miles per hours, odometer in miles etc etc etc. If you guys had built a Saturn V with the same mix of metric and imperial it would probably have finished up in the Kent Kinnard Rover Compound Yours mixedupidly Alan Francis (partviking) ________________________________ From: Albert Boasberg <ABoasberg at webtv.net> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, 28 November, 2009 20:30:45 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? Thanks to all who replied. Now I know. Albert _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/178db817/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Sat Nov 28 16:05:52 2009 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:05:52 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: <361143.16798.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> <361143.16798.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B1190B0.20701@att.net> I make it a point not to collect anything newer than a Saturn III. -KK Juliet Keiler wrote: > If you guys had built a Saturn V with the same mix of metric and > imperial it would probably have finished up in the Kent Kinnard Rover > Compound > > Yours mixedupidly > > Alan Francis (partviking) From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Nov 28 16:16:53 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:16:53 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: <8056.18024.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> <8056.18024.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B119345.9080006@comcast.net> Partviking wrote: > > > I can understand your confusion Albert. Swept volume in cubic > centimetres, liquid volume in pints,quarts and imperial gallons, nuts > and bolts in AF (some later parts of the P6 were metric) length and > breadth all in feet and inches Power in Brake Horses, tyres size in > inches, speed calibarated in miles per hours, odometer in miles etc > etc etc. > > If you guys had built a Saturn V with the same mix of metric and > imperial it would probably have finished up in the Kent Kinnard Rover > Compound > > Yours mixedupidly > > Alan Francis (partviking) What's up, Juliet? Is there an echo at your end? ;-) San Antonio, we have a problem... Cheers, Gus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/9124ac61/attachment.html> From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sat Nov 28 16:47:04 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:17:04 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: <361143.16798.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> <361143.16798.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B119A58.7020504@ozemail.com.au> Hi Alan Never a truer word ....... ;-) In the late 60's early 70's, as an apprentice, I was associated with the European Launcher Development Organisation (ELDO) Europa satellite project at Woomera on the Oz bush. Britain with Blue Streak became the first stage of the European launch vehicle with France providing the Coralie second stage and Germany the third. Italy worked on the satellite project, the Netherlands and Belgium concentrated on tracking and telemetry systems and Australia supplied the launch site. Now THAT was an exercise in imperial <----> metric!! In 3 attempts in Oz and 1 in the French , not one satellite achieved orbit! The physical and verbal punchups between the different team members in the ELDO mess after each failure had to be seen to be believed. ;-) In '67, WRE (my employer) decided to launch their own WRESAT using a tried and true US Redstone ---> success! Some info on both here .... http://users.chariot.net.au/~jahill/australi4.htm Cheers Dave South Oz Juliet Keiler wrote: > I can understand your confusion Albert. Swept volume in cubic centimetres, liquid volume in pints,quarts and imperial gallons, nuts and bolts in AF (some later parts of the P6 were metric) length and breadth all in feet and inches Power in Brake Horses, tyres size in inches, speed calibarated in miles per hours, odometer in miles etc etc etc. > > If you guys had built a Saturn V with the same mix of metric and imperial it would probably have finished up in the Kent Kinnard Rover Compound > > Yours mixedupidly > > Alan Francis (partviking) From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Nov 28 16:56:45 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:56:45 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: <4B119A58.7020504@ozemail.com.au> References: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> <361143.16798.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4B119A58.7020504@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <4B119C9D.3030908@comcast.net> David Read wrote: > Now THAT was an exercise in imperial <----> metric!! Of course, the granddaddy of them all: Metric mishap caused loss of NASA orbiter September 30, 1999 By Robin Lloyd CNN Interactive Senior Writer (CNN) -- NASA lost a $125 million Mars orbiter because a Lockheed Martin engineering team used English units of measurement while the agency's team used the more conventional metric system for a key spacecraft operation, according to a review finding released Thursday. The units mismatch prevented navigation information from transferring between the Mars Climate Orbiter spacecraft team in at Lockheed Martin in Denver and the flight team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. Lockheed Martin helped build, develop and operate the spacecraft for NASA. Its engineers provided navigation commands for Climate Orbiter's thrusters in English units although NASA has been using the metric system predominantly since at least 1990. No one is pointing fingers at Lockheed Martin, said Tom Gavin, the JPL administrator to whom all project managers report. "This is an end-to-end process problem," he said. "A single error like this should not have caused the loss of Climate Orbiter. Something went wrong in our system processes in checks and balances that we have that should have caught this and fixed it." The finding came from an internal review panel at JPL that reported the cause to Gavin on Wednesday. The group included about 10 navigation specialists, many of whom recently retired from JPL. "They have been looking at this since Friday morning following the loss," Gavin said. The navigation mishap killed the mission on a day when engineers had expected to celebrate the craft's entry into Mars' orbit. After a 286-day journey, the probe fired its engine on September 23 to push itself into orbit. The engine fired but the spacecraft came within 60 km (36 miles) of the planet -- about 100 km closer than planned and about 25 km (15 miles) beneath the level at which the it could function properly, mission members said. The latest findings show that the spacecraft's propulsion system overheated and was disabled as Climate Orbiter dipped deeply into the atmosphere, JPL spokesman Frank O'Donnell said. That probably stopped the engine from completing its burn, so Climate Orbiter likely plowed through the atmosphere, continued out beyond Mars and now could be orbiting the sun, he said. Climate Orbiter was to relay data from an upcoming partner mission called Mars Polar Lander, scheduled to set down on Mars in December. Now mission planners are working out how to relay its data via its own radio and another orbiter now circling the red planet. Climate Orbiter and Polar Lander were designed to help scientists understand Mars' water history and the potential for life in the planet's past. There is strong evidence that Mars was once awash with water, but scientists have no clear answers to where the water went and what drove it away. NASA has convened two panels to look into what led to the loss of the orbiter, including the internal peer review panel that released the Thursday finding. NASA also plans to form a third board -- an independent review panel -- to look into the accident. From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat Nov 28 17:02:17 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:02:17 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D7@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0><BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl><4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net><BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl><6CDE104D506640278EB76757D50CDA3A@Vista><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D1@Server.adoptsec.local><77287FA958D54BFDB24136C1FFDE14CB@Vista><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D5@Server.adoptsec.local><9DE03192CB7C40BD9B7BC010D3EBB154@Vista> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D7@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <6184727C8D1648C7B0237053092EEE0B@Vista> http://extrudabody.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Gallacher To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Do you have a web site address.? I'm curious to see if what they have to offer will help in the P6BS project. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 3:43 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Extrudabody <mwiser at extrudabody.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Gallacher To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Where do you get the SU throttle bodies from? Would like to see them. Den. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 3:34 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 Well I have always thought it would be easy to turbo a P4 (F head), and now you can get SU pattern throttle bodies with injectors, dead easy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091129/6613c92c/attachment.html> From phing at videotron.ca Sat Nov 28 17:16:22 2009 From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:16:22 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure ?? Message-ID: <000c01ca7078$6ac1e980$4045bc80$@ca> Hi Let's not forget that the engineers who designed Concorde managed to agree on a common system of dimensions and get it to fly . Brilliant 1960s era design and a spectacular economic disaster . Sounds like the last days of Rover ?? Cheers Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091128/a0380e84/attachment.html> From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Nov 28 18:28:33 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:28:33 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? References: <26433-4B118875-2287@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net><361143.16798.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4B119A58.7020504@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817DB@Server.adoptsec.local> If you think you blokes with the young cars have it so bad you should see what us oldies ( cars not me(smile ) have to put up with. Most of you will know that pre war cars used Whitworth but some might not know that soon as he could old lord Nuffield ( William Morris) shot of to Germany with his mate from Rover and bagged as many nuts and bolts as he could. Very clever was old William. Most he change the heads on to Whitworth or AF however left the thread metric. Not a problem in its self unless of course you need to run a tap or dress up a thread. One good point is that Whitworth and Metric are very similar in size which comes in handy if you round a head or need something to hammer onto a bolt head to get it to free of. I'm also into old Riley and have worked on a few RMA's that's when you truly find out how well you can cope with frustration..!!! talk about don't know if you are Arthur or Martha. But then isn't that all part of the enjoyment of these old cars..? BTW talking about Morris, if you can go and have a look at his house. Its open to the public on certain days so will need to check before you do. The UK P6 club have held a few gathering there super place for cars and the local pub in Nuffield does a nice pint. Den Gallacher. Juliet Keiler wrote: > I can understand your confusion Albert. Swept volume in cubic centimetres, liquid volume in pints,quarts and imperial gallons, nuts and bolts in AF (some later parts of the P6 were metric) length and breadth all in feet and inches Power in Brake Horses, tyres size in inches, speed calibarated in miles per hours, odometer in miles etc etc etc. > > If you guys had built a Saturn V with the same mix of metric and imperial it would probably have finished up in the Kent Kinnard Rover Compound > > Yours mixedupidly > > Alan Francis (partviking) _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Sun Nov 29 03:42:00 2009 From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:42:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Kents Rover Compound Message-ID: <219111.7387.qm@web86004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> At last somewhere to source that thrust nozzle for my Gemini restoration project! ;) Alan Francis (partviking) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091129/3bf47238/attachment.html> From peter_m at amnet.net.au Sun Nov 29 07:22:58 2009 From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:22:58 +0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 3500 coils. In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W61D22DCEDC8C5438A365A08E9B0@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.34.1259237713.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <SNT105-W61D22DCEDC8C5438A365A08E9B0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <004e01ca70ee$b03d5fa0$10b81ee0$@net.au> Many thanks James, I'll try either the GT40R or the GT40 coils. Will keep the list posted on the outcome. Regards Peter Mitchell I would recommend the Bosch GT40R coil. This is a high energy coil, you will have less problems with plug fouling etc. I am assuming that you are running a ballast resistor. If you are not running a ballast resistor then go a strait GT40 coil. The SU12R should work work though. You should find this one at most parts stores as a stock item. I have run a GT40 coil on my Rover 2000 for many years with great success. James E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13800 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091129/a3c37d98/attachment-0001.html> From rovejag at hotmail.com Sun Nov 29 17:19:32 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:19:32 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 100 with 110 Engine - Misfire & Water Ejection Message-ID: <BLU114-W26CE939FA16CC7BF59AC9EAD980@phx.gbl> Hello, I decided to purchase the shed-bound P4100 fitted with what I believe, after gratefully received advice from this list, is a P4 110 engine.. or at least head. The engine had not been started for over 12 months, but after fitting new plugs, points and condensor and several attempts to start, I was able to fire the engine up. The engine ran on 6 cylinders but then began to randomly run on 4 , 5 or 6 cylinders suggesting to me some form of electrical prob - leads, distributor cap etc. However, when I walked around the rear of the car, I noted with concern that a large amount, maybe half a kettle or more, of rusty water had been ejected from the exhaust pipe. The water in the radiator is swirling quickly - cap off , engine running - but not bubbling as would be expected with a blown head gasket. Given that the engine started on 6 and the then went to random misfiring, my feelings are that the 2 issues may not be connected - the misfiring being electrical and the water ejection being probably a minor head gasket seepage or more ominiously head corrosion. I would be really grateful to hear any opinons and receive any advice from list members in relation to this problem prior to me perhaps unneccessarily removing the head etc. Thanks in Anticipation Ray _________________________________________________________________ Looking to move this spring? With all the lastest places, searching has never been easier. Look now! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/3afc3924/attachment.html> From scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au Sun Nov 29 17:43:51 2009 From: scottsoldautorubber at bigpond.com.au (Scott Richmond) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:43:51 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> <BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <9A3EE666F5D24ADDB3F40FCB8B31B89B@userpc> Any time. As for performance, the best way is to fit a 105 or 110 exhaust manifold and 2" system, this helps breathing. If you only fit the engine with Westlake manifold and not 2" exhaust system, no increase will be noticed. Thankyou, Scott. www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday. Closed Saturday and Sunday. Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models, P.O. Box 107 (12 Haughton Road) Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia. Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023 http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter) ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Hello, Thanks for your help Scott and Mike - my knowledge has been expanded in just 3 days on the list. I have been offered a shed-bound 100 with a Weslake head. It has the correct air cleaner and does not appear to have been modified in any way, so from what I have learned here, I can safely assume it has a genuine and complete 110 head, which I imagine is a pretty rare beast. All other things being equal, would this head transplant transform the performance of a 100 in any significant way and if so, would it introduce any decline in overall refinement? Sorry to be asking so many questions! Ray ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: michael.maher at virgin.net To: scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au; rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:40:51 +0000 Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake With a bit of adjustment, things can be made to fit, it depends what you want out of the car. At a local Rover Rally this year, I saw a 95 that had been fitted with a 3 ltr engine. The air filter arragement had been replaced with an aftermarket K&N filter mounted to the carb. The induction noise is most un Rover like, but the car goes better than the standard set up. Another 100 that I know of, has been fitted with a 3 ltr engine and with some shaving down the elbow to the standard air filter and a small section cut from the flat return on the bonnet (hood) the stock setup fits. This particular car has been raced at Silverstone in the VSCC races and has surprised drivers of more exotic machinery. Mike Maher ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Richmond To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake You can use the engine with manifold, but you can not use the air cleaner. Thankyou, Scott. www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au Open 9 - 5.00 Monday to Friday. Closed Saturday and Sunday. Automotive Rubber and Seals for Many Makes and Models, P.O. Box 107 (12 Haughton Road) Oakleigh, Melbourne 3166, Australia. Phone and Fax: + 61- 3 - 9563 3023 http://www.xe.net/pca/ (Currency Converter) ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Hello Again, Thanks for the welcomes and also for the answers to my question re Weslake heads. I can see that the knowledge and expertise on this list is going to mean that I shall have to vey precise with my wording of questions! What I really meant to ask was, and I apologise for my sloppy wording, is the P4 110 Weslake head with inlet manifold, narrower than the P5 Weslake head with inlet manifold? Your replies have answered that question, thank you, and so as a follow up question, would a P5 Weslake head with P5 inlet manifold fit directly into a P4, or would a P4 110 inlet manifold be required due to width restrictions? 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/b11c14e7/attachment.html> From R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com Sun Nov 29 18:28:30 2009 From: R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com (Robert Thornton) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:58:30 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure ?? In-Reply-To: <000c01ca7078$6ac1e980$4045bc80$@ca> References: <000c01ca7078$6ac1e980$4045bc80$@ca> Message-ID: <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F1F1AC467@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> There was a BL media ad around in the late '70s showing a works BL Works TR8 rally car parked up next to Concorde. The inference was extolling the virtues of British engineering supremacy, innovation and design excellence. Both stunning looking creations that had a measure of success, promised much more, and were ultimately consigned to the dustbin of history without maybe realising their full potential. Rob ________________________________ From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Patrick Hiron Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 8:46 AM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure ?? Hi Let's not forget that the engineers who designed Concorde managed to agree on a common system of dimensions and get it to fly . Brilliant 1960s era design and a spectacular economic disaster . Sounds like the last days of Rover ?? Cheers Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/8d3b8ec9/attachment-0001.html> From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun Nov 29 18:46:43 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:16:43 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure ?? In-Reply-To: <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F1F1AC467@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> References: <000c01ca7078$6ac1e980$4045bc80$@ca> <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F1F1AC467@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> Message-ID: <4B1307E3.8020307@ozemail.com.au> You can add the TSR2 to that list Cheers Dave South Oz Robert Thornton wrote: > There was a BL media ad around in the late '70s showing a works BL Works TR8 rally car parked up next to Concorde. The inference was extolling the virtues of British engineering supremacy, innovation and design excellence. Both stunning looking creations that had a measure of success, promised much more, and were ultimately consigned to the dustbin of history without maybe realising their full potential. > > Rob From carstuff3 at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 19:01:14 2009 From: carstuff3 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:01:14 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P5 seat belts Message-ID: <b1e213c40911291601j312d85e7nc70af2788ec74879@mail.gmail.com> My P5 is finally on the road, but doesn't have seat belts. I have some TC seat belts--does anyone know if they'd fit? Also, can anyone tell me (or send pictures of) how and where they are mounted? There doesn't seem to be any provision for them. Thanks, Gordon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Set and then recheck the dwell and timing and change any dubious or just plain old components that you havent changed already. Look for tracking in the distributor cap and try again - then install new leads if need be. This is all good practice when bringing a car back from a period of disuse anyway, but you proably want to eliminate the ignition before you start stripping the engine Also do a compression test on the engine beofre you strt pullin it apart. Low readings on adjacent cylinders might suggest a leak between them, but in any case low readings on any individual pots really require the head to come off - if it's not the gasket, low compression could be caused by wear or damage in the piston or rings or even the bore, or a burned or damaged valve or valve seats. Please remember that a lack of bubbles in the coolant isn't a sure sign that all is well - for example the gasket could concievably be leaking between two cylinders rather than into the water jacket. Also it's worth noting a head gasket change on a Rover F-head is an awful lot easier than, say, the same job on a V6 Alfa. Aidrian On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> wrote: > The engine had not been started for over 12 months, but after fitting new > plugs, points and condensor?and several attempts to start, I was able to > fire the engine up. From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Nov 29 19:48:22 2009 From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:48:22 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 100 with 110 Engine -Misfire & Water Ejection References: <BLU114-W26CE939FA16CC7BF59AC9EAD980@phx.gbl> <204ec4390911291628w67dc3d12s855e95c29c781afa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80F67E9BD5DE4ED8AA9EAB76EA85C1EA@SN037535920331> If the car has been sitting for a while, it could be that the water is mixed in with the fuel? That would account for it being spat out the rear and the sudden miss firing Mark From den at aachenkennels.com Sun Nov 29 19:53:08 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:53:08 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 100 with 110 Engine -Misfire & Water Ejection References: <BLU114-W26CE939FA16CC7BF59AC9EAD980@phx.gbl> <204ec4390911291628w67dc3d12s855e95c29c781afa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817F6@Server.adoptsec.local> I would add to Aidrian excellent post not to run the engine at all unless you have changed the oil and filter. It won't hurt to drain the water and replace with plain water until you see what's what. Also be concerned about the petrol gumming up and blocking the fuel lines. I know how frustrating it can be checking all these points as like all of us hearing an old engine fire up again after its been standing for a long time is a bit of a spine tingler, buts it's well worth the extra time spent buddy. Den Gallacher -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 8:29 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 100 with 110 Engine -Misfire & Water Ejection Ray Since the car has been sitting the water could simply be accumulated condensate being thrown out of the exhaust system - half a kettle sounds a lot , but if you start it again you may find that the bulk of the water has been spat out. I suggest you take the line of least resistance first... Sort the electrics and see if you have a good spark at all the plugs. Set and then recheck the dwell and timing and change any dubious or just plain old components that you havent changed already. Look for tracking in the distributor cap and try again - then install new leads if need be. This is all good practice when bringing a car back from a period of disuse anyway, but you proably want to eliminate the ignition before you start stripping the engine Also do a compression test on the engine beofre you strt pullin it apart. Low readings on adjacent cylinders might suggest a leak between them, but in any case low readings on any individual pots really require the head to come off - if it's not the gasket, low compression could be caused by wear or damage in the piston or rings or even the bore, or a burned or damaged valve or valve seats. Please remember that a lack of bubbles in the coolant isn't a sure sign that all is well - for example the gasket could concievably be leaking between two cylinders rather than into the water jacket. Also it's worth noting a head gasket change on a Rover F-head is an awful lot easier than, say, the same job on a V6 Alfa. Aidrian On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Graeme Rover <rovejag at hotmail.com> wrote: > The engine had not been started for over 12 months, but after fitting new > plugs, points and condensor?and several attempts to start, I was able to > fire the engine up. _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Nov 29 20:35:06 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:35:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure, OT who knows In-Reply-To: <4B1307E3.8020307@ozemail.com.au> References: <000c01ca7078$6ac1e980$4045bc80$@ca> <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F1F1AC467@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> <4B1307E3.8020307@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <536451.11666.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I worked on a small electrical component of the TSR2 in a division of Smiths Industries in the UK. It was an electrical "amplifier" consisting of a sandwich of resistors, capacitors, diodes, and transistors. It was for the "high tech" "head-up display". Circa 1963-1966 Now, of course it's all integrated circuits and "head-up display" is very common. The cancellation of this aircraft and the Canadian Arrow has International conspiracy allegations circulating underground. Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ----- Original Message ---- From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 3:46:43 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure ?? You can add the TSR2 to that list Cheers Dave South Oz Robert Thornton wrote: > There was a BL media ad around in the late '70s showing a works BL Works TR8 rally car parked up next to Concorde. The inference was extolling the virtues of British engineering supremacy, innovation and design excellence. Both stunning looking creations that had a measure of success, promised much more, and were ultimately consigned to the dustbin of history without maybe realising their full potential. > > Rob _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From rovejag at hotmail.com Sun Nov 29 21:26:59 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:26:59 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure, OT who knows In-Reply-To: <536451.11666.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000c01ca7078$6ac1e980$4045bc80$@ca>, <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F1F1AC467@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au>, <4B1307E3.8020307@ozemail.com.au>, <536451.11666.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <BLU114-W10BE7C0465EDA2D0CAF348AD970@phx.gbl> I am new here, so I dont want to step out of line, but Eric's posting stirred some memories. I clearly remember when in 1963, Australia's Prime Minister, Sir Robert Menzies, who by his own admission, was "British to the Bootheels", announced the cancellation of the RAAF TSR2 order in favour of the infamous US F111, there was a great deal of unrest and rumours of secret donations to political parties etc. I have always been under the impression that Australia's cancellation was the final deathblow for the TSR2. Ray > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:35:06 -0800 > From: p6rovers at yahoo.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure, OT who knows > > I worked on a small electrical component of the TSR2 in a division of Smiths Industries in the UK. It was an electrical "amplifier" consisting of a sandwich of resistors, capacitors, diodes, and transistors. It was for the "high tech" "head-up display". Circa 1963-1966 > > Now, of course it's all integrated circuits and "head-up display" is very common. > > The cancellation of this aircraft and the Canadian Arrow has International conspiracy allegations circulating underground. > > Eric > > > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 3:46:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure ?? > > You can add the TSR2 to that list > > Cheers > Dave > South Oz > > Robert Thornton wrote: > > There was a BL media ad around in the late '70s showing a works BL Works TR8 rally car parked up next to Concorde. The inference was extolling the virtues of British engineering supremacy, innovation and design excellence. Both stunning looking creations that had a measure of success, promised much more, and were ultimately consigned to the dustbin of history without maybe realising their full potential. > > > > Rob > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. 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My car has electronic ignition- which I had understood does not require a ballast resistor- am I right in thinking this? Many thanks Peter Mitchell E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13800 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/12430e88/attachment.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Sun Nov 29 21:46:44 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:46:44 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 100 with 110 Engine - Misfire & Water Ejection In-Reply-To: <mailman.61.1259548061.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.61.1259548061.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W65F7EE20E89AE310ADFA88E970@phx.gbl> > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:28:55 -0800 > From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 100 with 110 Engine - > Misfire & Water Ejection > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > > Message-ID: > <204ec4390911291628w67dc3d12s855e95c29c781afa at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ray > > Since the car has been sitting the water could simply be accumulated > condensate being thrown out of the exhaust system - half a kettle > sounds a lot , but if you start it again you may find that the bulk of > the water has been spat out. > > I suggest you take the line of least resistance first... Sort the > electrics and see if you have a good spark at all the plugs. Set and > then recheck the dwell and timing and change any dubious or just plain > old components that you havent changed already. Look for tracking in > the distributor cap and try again - then install new leads if need > be. This is all good practice when bringing a car back from a period > of disuse anyway, but you proably want to eliminate the ignition > before you start stripping the engine > > Also do a compression test on the engine beofre you strt pullin it apart. > > Low readings on adjacent cylinders might suggest a leak between them, > but in any case low readings on any individual pots really require the > head to come off - if it's not the gasket, low compression could be > caused by wear or damage in the piston or rings or even the bore, or a > burned or damaged valve or valve seats. Please remember that a lack > of bubbles in the coolant isn't a sure sign that all is well - for > example the gasket could concievably be leaking between two cylinders > rather than into the water jacket. > > Also it's worth noting a head gasket change on a Rover F-head is an > awful lot easier than, say, the same job on a V6 Alfa. > > Aidrian > > > > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Graeme Rover wrote: > > >> The engine had not been started for over 12 months, but after fitting new >> plugs, points and condensor?and several attempts to start, I was able to >> fire the engine up. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:48:22 -0000 > From: > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 100 with 110 Engine > -Misfire & Water Ejection > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > > Message-ID: <80F67E9BD5DE4ED8AA9EAB76EA85C1EA at SN037535920331> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > If the car has been sitting for a while, it could be that the water is mixed > in with the fuel? > That would account for it being spat out the rear and the sudden miss firing > > Mark > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:53:08 +0900 > From: "Dennis Gallacher" > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P4 100 with 110 Engine > -Misfire & Water Ejection > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > > Message-ID: > <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817F6 at Server.adoptsec.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I would add to Aidrian excellent post not to run the engine at all unless you have changed the oil and filter. It won't hurt to drain the water and replace with plain water until you see what's what. Also be concerned about the petrol gumming up and blocking the fuel lines. I know how frustrating it can be checking all these points as like all of us hearing an old engine fire up again after its been standing for a long time is a bit of a spine tingler, buts it's well worth the extra time spent buddy. > > Den Gallacher > > Where in Victoria are you located? Has the car always been run with coolant? If it has had tap water in it at somestage how hard it your tap water. I had a car once which was from Adelaide, and I supect had been topped up with Adelaide tap water, for radiator coolant at some stage. Even though I flushed it out, and changed it to coolant, eventually one of the heads cooroded out, just by the exhaust manifold. Plenty of steam came out when you ran it then. They tried to weld up the head with it on the block still, with no luck. Upon removal they found it to be porous, so I had it replaced. It started up fine, but blew lost of steam out of the exhaust. The gaskets themselves were fine, and a compression test would not have picked up the problem. How wet has your winter been this year? Was the radiator depleted after running it? James. _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sun Nov 29 21:56:25 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:26:25 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - if fitted, where would it be located? In-Reply-To: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au> References: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au> Message-ID: <4B133459.7080605@ozemail.com.au> Hi Peter The ballast resistor can either be a ceramic bodied unit bolted somewhere in the engine compartment or a resistance wire running between the ignition switch and coil itself. To test (with the battery disconnected and ignition switch in the "on" position), measure the resistance in ohms between the battery positive connector and the +12v coil terminal. If the connecting wire is copper (non resistive) it should read close to zero. BTW, My 3500 & 3500S manual shows a ceramic ballast resistor mounted below the coil on the LH (from driver's position) inner front wing panel. You will need to look at your electronic ignition's electrical input specifications to see if you need a ballast resistor. If it is 12V, you don't. AFAIK, a coil requiring a ballast resistor is rated at 8-9 volts DC. This is used to improve/increase ignition spark voltage by temporarily placing the battery directly on the coil (resistor is bypassed) to compensate for reduced battery voltage during engine start. With the ignition key in the "run" position, the resistor is connected in series with the coil, limiting the running voltage to 8-9 volts HTH Cheers Dave South Oz Peter Mitchell wrote: > Hello to Rovernet members, > > > > James Radcliffe in his posting 29/11 mentions suitable ignition coils for > the P6B whether fitted with a ballast resistor or not. > > > > So I need to establish whether my car has a ballast resistor. Having fitted > one to another vehicle I am familiar with the appearance of a ballast > resistor, and I cannot see anything resembling one in the engine bay. > > > > I would be very grateful for advice on where the ballast resistor would be > located if it were fitted; I don't want to install the wrong coil for the > car. > > > > My car has electronic ignition- which I had understood does not require a > ballast resistor- am I right in thinking this? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Peter Mitchell > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) > Database version: 6.13800 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From rovercar at comcast.net Sun Nov 29 22:39:59 2009 From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:39:59 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Units of measure, OT who knows In-Reply-To: <536451.11666.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000c01ca7078$6ac1e980$4045bc80$@ca> <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F1F1AC467@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> <4B1307E3.8020307@ozemail.com.au> <536451.11666.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B133E8F.4040609@comcast.net> Eric Russell wrote: > The cancellation of this aircraft and the Canadian Arrow has International conspiracy allegations circulating underground. > > Eric > I think the Canadian Arrow project was definitely scuttled in the back rooms. The TSR2 really became a plane without a weapon when Macmillan's government limited the kilotonnage of each individual atomic bomb to 10 kilotons. The RAF now needed to figure out how to cram four bombs into the plane, and there was no way to do it. It was on the way to cancellation when the next Labour government came in and killed it outright. I think Lockheed (or whomever was building the F-111) made their plane look less expensive on paper. The F-111 did have major problems when it first came out, but it had an enormous amount of new technology crammed into it. It finally ended up being a pretty well respected machine. The Australian Air Force still has a bunch of them in service, 40 years after they were first introduced. Glen From rovejag at hotmail.com Sun Nov 29 23:17:11 2009 From: rovejag at hotmail.com (Graeme Rover) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:17:11 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] F111 Message-ID: <BLU114-W15B1D4070637E303A92672AD970@phx.gbl> Glen, You said, The F-111 did have major problems when it first came out, but it had an enormous amount of new technology crammed into it. It finally ended up being a pretty well respected machine. The Australian Air Force still has a bunch of them in service, 40 years after they were first introduced. As late as 1969, the Leader of HM Opposition in Australia, the Hon E G Whitlam, soon to be Prime Minister, when speaking of his Deputy, the Hon Lance Barnard, MP, said ..."Lance Barnard is a politician respected on both sides of the House as a decent man".....and, with his voice dripping with sarcasm, " he is also a very brave man ..he has flown in an F111" Small point, but important, it is the Royal Australian Air Force. Cheers Ray _________________________________________________________________ For more of what happens online Head to the Daily Blob on Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/681d46a9/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sun Nov 29 23:40:07 2009 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:40:07 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - if fitted, where would it be located? In-Reply-To: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au> References: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au> Message-ID: <2D62F3E5E46542F39F391770D5C67EFD@Vista> Depends on the ignition. If it is pushing a full current through the coil it still uses one. The ballast in a P6B is in the wire from the ignition switch. Why?? Who knows. All P6Bs were ballasted. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Mitchell To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - if fitted,where would it be located? Hello to Rovernet members, James Radcliffe in his posting 29/11 mentions suitable ignition coils for the P6B whether fitted with a ballast resistor or not. So I need to establish whether my car has a ballast resistor. Having fitted one to another vehicle I am familiar with the appearance of a ballast resistor, and I cannot see anything resembling one in the engine bay. I would be very grateful for advice on where the ballast resistor would be located if it were fitted; I don't want to install the wrong coil for the car. My car has electronic ignition- which I had understood does not require a ballast resistor- am I right in thinking this? 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The ballast in a P6B is in the wire from the ignition switch. Why?? Who knows. All P6Bs were ballasted. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Mitchell <mailto:peter_m at amnet.net.au> To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - if fitted,where would it be located? Hello to Rovernet members, James Radcliffe in his posting 29/11 mentions suitable ignition coils for the P6B whether fitted with a ballast resistor or not. So I need to establish whether my car has a ballast resistor. Having fitted one to another vehicle I am familiar with the appearance of a ballast resistor, and I cannot see anything resembling one in the engine bay. I would be very grateful for advice on where the ballast resistor would be located if it were fitted; I don't want to install the wrong coil for the car. My car has electronic ignition- which I had understood does not require a ballast resistor- am I right in thinking this? Many thanks Peter Mitchell E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13800 http://www.pctools.com/internet-security/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/> ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/bb89a236/attachment.html> From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon Nov 30 02:20:34 2009 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter H) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:20:34 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to west. In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608180E@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au> <2D62F3E5E46542F39F391770D5C67EFD@Vista> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608180E@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <des6h5dcb2v69qkoms5kpn8hfv65eljn4d@4ax.com> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:36:52 +0900, you wrote: >Any of the Australians on the list know of a car transporter who could >carry a car from Inverell North NSW to Perth WA. Dennis, Why not talk to Alan Gale (is he still Editor for WA Rover Club?) he had experience in moving his Rovers from Melb to Perth a few years back. Cheers, Peter H From agale at iinet.net.au Mon Nov 30 04:51:45 2009 From: agale at iinet.net.au (Alan Gale) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:51:45 +0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to west. In-Reply-To: <des6h5dcb2v69qkoms5kpn8hfv65eljn4d@4ax.com> References: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au><2D62F3E5E46542F39F391770D5C67EFD@Vista><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608180E@Server.adoptsec.local> <des6h5dcb2v69qkoms5kpn8hfv65eljn4d@4ax.com> Message-ID: <44FA800921D04A75B3E6C6096128649A@wheatley> Peter - My move was organised by the company who wanted us in perth ... so it was a straightforward (and quite expensive) move which I did not have to pay for. It doesn't meet Dennis' hopes!! Alan -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Peter H Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 3:21 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to west. On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:36:52 +0900, you wrote: >Any of the Australians on the list know of a car transporter who could >carry a car from Inverell North NSW to Perth WA. Dennis, Why not talk to Alan Gale (is he still Editor for WA Rover Club?) he had experience in moving his Rovers from Melb to Perth a few years back. Cheers, Peter H _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13810 http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13810 http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From michael.maher at virgin.net Mon Nov 30 06:11:55 2009 From: michael.maher at virgin.net (Mike Maher) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:11:55 -0000 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] F111 References: <BLU114-W15B1D4070637E303A92672AD970@phx.gbl> <4B136A41.50302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00cc01ca71ad$ee2a2220$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0> Her P5 and P5B's are on loan to the heritage museum at Gaydon Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Wilson To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/82aee92f/attachment-0001.html> From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon Nov 30 07:02:17 2009 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:02:17 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Retro fitting P4 and 1947 P 2 In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D1@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0><BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl><4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net> <BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl><6CDE104D506640278EB76757D50CDA3A@Vista> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D1@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019E62C9@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Please keep us informed! Does p4 chassis fit? Best regards, Gianluca _____ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Dennis Gallacher Inviato: sabato 28 novembre 2009 8.18 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 and 1947 P 2 I have a superb body from a 47 P2 sports along with most of the trim, dash and body chrome but nothing else. I've been toying with the idea of that once I have the Rover special done, then the 36 Rover Speed 14, the P6BS converted to inject and 4.6, I'll fit a P4 chassis underneath it. Kind of like the idea of ether going with a twin SU 3.5 or give the P4 engine a bit of a tune. The later would make getting it road approved a lot easier however so would a Daimler 2.5 V8. Just hope I'm young enough to enjoy it..(smile) From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 1:28 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Early 75's had twin 1.5" I think that P4 is related to Scott, who appears here sometimes. A friend in Sydney at the time saw a P4 with a 327 and Holden 5pt rear. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover <mailto:rovejag at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake I am told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 litre Leyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! By the way, I thought the only P4's with twin carbs were the 105's. Ray > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to > > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple > > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen > > that already, haven't we Kent? > > > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > > > ;-) > You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to the purple > car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and the paint...and the > upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the small block > Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. > > Roverheretically, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _____ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/> know what your boss is paid? _____ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/34195e76/attachment.html> From den at aachenkennels.com Mon Nov 30 07:16:01 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:16:01 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Retro fitting P4 and 1947 P 2 References: <BLU114-W293228B25B1237AEEE2F1CAD9A0@phx.gbl>, , <EFC8613CB8934C07853AC483E9CEFBDD@userpc>, , <007201ca6f56$795ab9e0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0><BLU114-W4360FF82CD9842F34CAC8AD9A0@phx.gbl><4B10631D.9020807@att.net>, <4B108E2E.30909@comcast.net>, <4B1095DC.3040702@att.net><BLU114-W101A48210AC36CE11F85BAD990@phx.gbl><6CDE104D506640278EB76757D50CDA3A@Vista><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817D1@Server.adoptsec.local> <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3019E62C9@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081818@Server.adoptsec.local> Are all the P4 chassis the same dimensions? I would like to find something with disc brakes at the front. Guess this would be something from the 60s however an early chassis would be easier to find and use as a base as long as the measurements are the same.? From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 8:02 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Cc: marco.m.morana at gmail.com Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Retro fitting P4 and 1947 P 2 Please keep us informed! Does p4 chassis fit? Best regards, Gianluca ________________________________ Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Dennis Gallacher Inviato: sabato 28 novembre 2009 8.18 A: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Retro fitting P4 and 1947 P 2 I have a superb body from a 47 P2 sports along with most of the trim, dash and body chrome but nothing else. I've been toying with the idea of that once I have the Rover special done, then the 36 Rover Speed 14, the P6BS converted to inject and 4.6, I'll fit a P4 chassis underneath it. Kind of like the idea of ether going with a twin SU 3.5 or give the P4 engine a bit of a tune. The later would make getting it road approved a lot easier however so would a Daimler 2.5 V8. Just hope I'm young enough to enjoy it..(smile) From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 1:28 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake Early 75's had twin 1.5" I think that P4 is related to Scott, who appears here sometimes. A friend in Sydney at the time saw a P4 with a 327 and Holden 5pt rear. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Graeme Rover <mailto:rovejag at hotmail.com> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake I am told there is actually a '59 90 in Melbourne fitted with a 4.4 litre Leyland P76 alloy V8 and and a Jaguar XJ6 rear end! By the way, I thought the only P4's with twin carbs were the 105's. Ray > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0600 > From: kkinard at att.net > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 110 Weslake vs P5 3 Litre Weslake > > Glen Wilson wrote: > > Ah, but the 95 owner loses the blessed simplicity of single carb > > operation. Dual carburetion is the first step down the road to > > perdition. The next thing you know, you'll be painting the car purple > > and installing a small-block Ford V8 with a 9" rear end. We've seen > > that already, haven't we Kent? > > > > Alas for the poor, unappreciated single-carb Rovers! > > > > ;-) > You wax eloquent, Glen, but the 110 only had one carb. As to the purple > car, it was rather nice except for the wheels...and the paint...and the > upholstery... Maybe just leave everything stock except the small block > Ford...and a 3.54:1 Rangie diff. > > Roverheretically, > Kent K. > > _______________________________________________ > Rovernet mailing list > Rovernet at rovernet.ca > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > Here are the old Rovernet archives: > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ > Join the Back-up list and post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ________________________________ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid? <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/> ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/7413bf03/attachment-0001.html> From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Nov 30 11:01:45 2009 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:01:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to west. In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608180E@Server.adoptsec.local> References: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au> <2D62F3E5E46542F39F391770D5C67EFD@Vista> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608180E@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <799660.74749.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Have you tried these folk? http://www.gsr.com.au/our-trains/indian-pacific/taking-your-car.php There is a section on "unaccompanied car". Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 9:36:52 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to west. Any of the Australians on the list know of a car transporter who could carry a car from Inverell North NSW to Perth WA. From:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:40 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - iffitted, where would it be located? Depends on the ignition. If it is pushing a full current through the coil it still uses one. The ballast in a P6B is in the wire from the ignition switch. Why?? Who knows. All P6Bs were ballasted. PVS > >> >----- >Original Message ----- >> >From:Peter Mitchell >> >To:'The original >list for Rover car enthusiasts.' >> >Sent:Monday, November 30, >2009 1:29 PM >> >Subject:[Rovernet - >INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - if fitted,where would it be located? >> > >Hello to Rovernet members, > >James Radcliffe in his posting 29/11 mentions suitable >ignition coils for the P6B whether fitted with a ballast resistor or not. > >So I need to establish whether my car has a ballast >resistor. Having fitted one to another vehicle I am familiar with the >appearance of a ballast resistor, and I cannot see anything resembling one in >the engine bay. > >I would be very grateful for advice on where the ballast >resistor would be located if it were fitted; I don?t want to install the wrong >coil for the car. > >My car has electronic ignition- which I had understood does >not require a ballast resistor- am I right in thinking this? > >Many thanks > >Peter Mitchell > > > > >E-mail message checked >by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) >Database version: 6.13800 >http://www.pctools.com/internet-security/ >> ________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ >>Rovernet mailing list >>Rovernet at rovernet.ca >>Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: >http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>Here are the old Rovernet archives: >http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ >>Join the Back-up list and post photos at: >http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091130/658b6d84/attachment.html> From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Mon Nov 30 15:45:05 2009 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:15:05 +1030 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - if fitted, where would it be located? In-Reply-To: <2D62F3E5E46542F39F391770D5C67EFD@Vista> References: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au> <2D62F3E5E46542F39F391770D5C67EFD@Vista> Message-ID: <4B142ED1.5050102@ozemail.com.au> Which brand of electronic ignition is it? ..... Lumenition? Cheers Dave South Oz PS ... I forgot to mention the points being closed in my earlier post. My manual (on the following page showing a discrete resistor) also has a section on ballast resistor that happily chats on about a resistance wire in the loom in the later model cars ...... Grrrrrrrrrrr!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Mitchell > To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:29 PM > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - if fitted,where would it be located? > > Hello to Rovernet members, > > James Radcliffe in his posting 29/11 mentions suitable ignition coils for the P6B whether fitted with a ballast resistor or not. > > So I need to establish whether my car has a ballast resistor. Having fitted one to another vehicle I am familiar with the appearance of > a ballast resistor, and I cannot see anything resembling one in the engine bay. > > I would be very grateful for advice on where the ballast resistor would be located if it were fitted; I don't want to install the wrong > coil for the car. > > My car has electronic ignition- which I had understood does not require a ballast resistor- am I right in thinking this? > > Many thanks > > Peter Mitchell From KG at dolby.com Mon Nov 30 15:55:17 2009 From: KG at dolby.com (Gundry, Kenneth) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:55:17 -0800 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160817DB@Server.adoptsec.local> Message-ID: <05BB196AB3DA6C4BBE11AB6C957581FE20C53ABC@sfo-exch-01.dolby.net> Just a minor correction! Threads in pre-war British cars are mostly BSF, British Standard Fine. On my 1925 Rover for example, everything is BSF except bolts that thread into aluminium where the coarser Whitworth threads are more appropriate. The heads of BSF and Whitworth bolts are off by one size, but a set of spanners (wrenches) for one works for the other. In my experience, use of metric spanners will damage the nuts and bolts. And then there are the US threads, in fine and coarse variants ....! Their spanners don't fit UK nuts and bolts at all! Ken G, 1925 Rover 16/50 (San Francisco) -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Dennis Gallacher Sent: Saturday, 28 November, 2009 3:29 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] CCs or Inches? If you think you blokes with the young cars have it so bad you should see what us oldies ( cars not me(smile ) have to put up with. Most of you will know that pre war cars used Whitworth but some might not know that soon as he could old lord Nuffield ( William Morris) shot of to Germany with his mate from Rover and bagged as many nuts and bolts as he could. Very clever was old William. Most he change the heads on to Whitworth or AF however left the thread metric. Not a problem in its self unless of course you need to run a tap or dress up a thread. One good point is that Whitworth and Metric are very similar in size which comes in handy if you round a head or need something to hammer onto a bolt head to get it to free of. I'm also into old Riley and have worked on a few RMA's that's when you truly find out how well you can cope with frustration..!!! talk about don't know if you are Arthur or Martha. But then isn't that all part of the enjoyment of these old cars..? BTW talking about Morris, if you can go and have a look at his house. Its open to the public on certain days so will need to check before you do. The UK P6 club have held a few gathering there super place for cars and the local pub in Nuffield does a nice pint. Den Gallacher. Juliet Keiler wrote: > I can understand your confusion Albert. Swept volume in cubic centimetres, liquid volume in pints,quarts and imperial gallons, nuts and bolts in AF (some later parts of the P6 were metric) length and breadth all in feet and inches Power in Brake Horses, tyres size in inches, speed calibarated in miles per hours, odometer in miles etc etc etc. > > If you guys had built a Saturn V with the same mix of metric and imperial it would probably have finished up in the Kent Kinnard Rover Compound > > Yours mixedupidly > > Alan Francis (partviking) _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon Nov 30 16:54:49 2009 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter H) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:54:49 +1100 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to west. In-Reply-To: <799660.74749.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au> <2D62F3E5E46542F39F391770D5C67EFD@Vista> <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608180E@Server.adoptsec.local> <799660.74749.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <pif8h55q14pnjmrfgme034l2qugdpunlml@4ax.com> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:01:45 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Have you tried these folk? >http://www.gsr.com.au/our-trains/indian-pacific/taking-your-car.php and doing a Google for "car transport site:au" brings up many more with online quotes, but I guess Dennis is after someone who has had the experience and can make a word of mouth recommendation. Cheers, Peter H From den at aachenkennels.com Mon Nov 30 17:08:17 2009 From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:08:17 +0900 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to west. References: <002801ca7164$e076f0c0$a164d240$@net.au><2D62F3E5E46542F39F391770D5C67EFD@Vista><73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608180E@Server.adoptsec.local> <799660.74749.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608181C@Server.adoptsec.local> No but I?ll give them a call today. Thanks Eric. Den From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Eric Russell Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 12:02 AM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to west. Have you tried these folk? http://www.gsr.com.au/our-trains/indian-pacific/taking-your-car.php There is a section on "unaccompanied car". Eric "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC) ________________________________ From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 9:36:52 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to west. Any of the Australians on the list know of a car transporter who could carry a car from Inverell North NSW to Perth WA. From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Netspace Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:40 PM To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - iffitted, where would it be located? Depends on the ignition. If it is pushing a full current through the coil it still uses one. The ballast in a P6B is in the wire from the ignition switch. Why?? Who knows. All P6Bs were ballasted. PVS ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Mitchell <mailto:peter_m at amnet.net.au> To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - if fitted,where would it be located? Hello to Rovernet members, James Radcliffe in his posting 29/11 mentions suitable ignition coils for the P6B whether fitted with a ballast resistor or not. So I need to establish whether my car has a ballast resistor. Having fitted one to another vehicle I am familiar with the appearance of a ballast resistor, and I cannot see anything resembling one in the engine bay. I would be very grateful for advice on where the ballast resistor would be located if it were fitted; I don?t want to install the wrong coil for the car. My car has electronic ignition- which I had understood does not require a ballast resistor- am I right in thinking this? Many thanks Peter Mitchell E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.13800 http://www.pctools.com/internet-security/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/> ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Rovernet mailing list Rovernet at rovernet.ca Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail: http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca Here are the old Rovernet archives: http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/ Join the Back-up list and post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! <http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20091201/5f1604b3/attachment-0001.html> From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Mon Nov 30 17:46:57 2009 From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ignition coils, and car transportation from East to West. In-Reply-To: <mailman.76.1259618896.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.76.1259618896.12562.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <SNT105-W5774463D2B351D35CE51328E970@phx.gbl> Original Message ----- > > From: Peter Mitchell > > To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.' > > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:29 PM > > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover P6B- ballast resistor - if fitted,where would it be located? > > > > Hello to Rovernet members, > > > > James Radcliffe in his posting 29/11 mentions suitable ignition coils for the P6B whether fitted with a ballast resistor or not. > > > > So I need to establish whether my car has a ballast resistor. Having fitted one to another vehicle I am familiar with the appearance of > > a ballast resistor, and I cannot see anything resembling one in the engine bay. > > > > I would be very grateful for advice on where the ballast resistor would be located if it were fitted; I don't want to install the wrong > > coil for the car. > > > > My car has electronic ignition- which I had understood does not require a ballast resistor- am I right in thinking this? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Peter Mitchell > > > > > ------------------------------ > I did read on another forum that GT40(R) coils do not work so well with electronic ignition. You may want to back convert to points if you go the GT40(R) route. Here is a link for that site. My Rover 2000 runs points. I like points, as you can change them very easily. A spare set takes up very little space in the glove box. They do not take too long to fit, you do need a steady hand though. You can see if they should be working very easily. The only problem I have ever had with points is not having a steady hand to fit a new set during servicing, after the previous evening having a few too many lemonades at the local pub! http://forum.nissanexa.com/showthread.php?t=13990 > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:54:49 +1100 > From: Peter H <peterhut at activ8.net.au> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to > west. > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: <pif8h55q14pnjmrfgme034l2qugdpunlml at 4ax.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:01:45 -0800 (PST), you wrote: > > >Have you tried these folk? > >http://www.gsr.com.au/our-trains/indian-pacific/taking-your-car.php > > and doing a Google for "car transport site:au" brings up many more > with online quotes, but I guess Dennis is after someone who has had > the experience and can make a word of mouth recommendation. > > > Cheers, > > Peter H > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:08:17 +0900 > From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] moving a car from east to > west. > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." > <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Message-ID: > <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608181C at Server.adoptsec.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > No but I?ll give them a call today. > > Thanks Eric. > > Den > I have transported my Rover on the train before, and I had no problems. The waggons for cars, have metal screens on them to prevent rocks thrown by the local youths hitting the cars. I have also had my Rover transported back one time on bulka bags of wood chips. Loading it involved the car being raised up between two forklifts, backing the semi trailer underneath it, then lowering it down onto the load. Thankfully I was not present for loading or unloading of my Rover, and I do not recommend transporting of Rovers in this manner! James. _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Troubleshooting is always a matter of gradual elimination, and a compression test won't elimate some faults, though it can help you improve your strike rate Aidrian