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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 00:11:32 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:11:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Connection woes...
In-Reply-To: <687929.55889.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <112146.73109.qm@web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<687929.55889.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <421233.79645.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Yes,........ it's the new "free'.....? :-)
I believe that's called "free enterprise".??;-)
Eric
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
From: Glen Wilson <rovercarwilson at yahoo.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 7:35:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Connection woes...
It works.? If only I wanted a Yahoo Mail account. You have to pay them $20 a year to have mail forwarded to a POP account.
________________________________
From: Glen Wilson <rovercarwilson at yahoo.com>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 10:32:09 PM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Connection woes...
Just testing, again. I can't subscribe via my Gmail or GoDaddy email accounts. I can send but not receive on my Comcast account.
Thisis from an old Yahoo Mail account, but I don't see any option for setting it to plain text.
So, here goes.? Testing, again.
Glen
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 00:47:36 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] No messages 2 - copy to the Rovernet
In-Reply-To: <4BB407B1.9040006@comcast.net>
References: <4BB3C6C3.3070106@comcast.net>
<388022.87608.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4BB407B1.9040006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <732264.61780.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I received notification from the server that a non-standard message was sent to the Rovernet.
This is often:
1. SPAM
2. Somebody?posting who is not a member
3. Somebody who is posting who IS a member but who is writing from someone else's computer
4. Someone trying to post using something other than Plain Text.
The address was:
retiefcdt at comcast.net
That may be you.
The email was sent with "multipart/alternative" format. This can be "Rich?Text". It uses HTML code to enhance the look of messages (bold faced, type of font, font color, etc., etc.)
The server is programmed to not accept any HTML code as hackers use HTML code to insert malicious programming which ends up in a person's computer and causes trouble through virus,?Trojans, or worms.
Anyway, I fight a constant battle to protect Rovernet subscribers from receiving?malicious email.
We have people who use the following Internet email systems:
Educational institutions
gmail
webtv
aol.com
Private companies
Verizon
xtra.co.nz
gis.net
zeusmail.org
Yahoo.com
btinternet.com
bigpond.com
live.co.uk
earthlink.net
juno.com
sympatico.com
rogers.com
ozemail.com.au
wanadoo.fr
hotmail.com
hemmings.com
swbell.net
sasktel.net
msn.com
cablelynx.com
shaw.ca
and on and on and on..........
There are checks and balances at the Rovernet server level, some of which I can control and some of which are beyond my control.
There are checks and balances at the level of each Internet service provider that protect their subscribers from SPAM (or not).
Basically, if people subscribe to the Rovernet by themselves, the Rovernet server is programmed to send a confirmation message to the email address as if to ask, "This address has asked to join the Rovernet. Is this true?" I have always presumed that this service works and is not blocked at the ISP level.
Also, if people always send a Plain Text format message to the Rovernet, the server lets it through and it gets distributed. If someone sends a "Rich Text" or HTML format message to the Rovernet, it gets "discarded". That's it - it dies at the server's door.
If someone sends an attachment the attachment is stopped or the whole message is stopped - I don't know as I haven't done that.
Because only a few people contact me when there are problems, I don't know if the other 290 members are receiving email or not.
If one is?working for a government organization one has to get used to the existing situation. Nobody tells you if you are doing a good job but people are there complaining if there is a problem.
With the Rovernet, I have heard from some people that they have experienced a problem. What about the other 290, I wonder.? Is one person's problem related to someone else's problem, or a different problem.
There are too many questions and not enough answers.
Eric
List Admin
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
________________________________
From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 7:40:49 PM
Subject: Re: No messages 2
Eric Russell wrote:
Glen, I went to the archives, yep your posts were there. Went to?the membership management database: you have the same settings?as most of the people on the "R" page. Try getting a free email address from Yahoo and subscribing that way and test out your reception. If you receive messages, it's not you...??;-) I have no other ideas other than it's related to your ISP. Eric Eric,
I don't understand why it is intermittent, and it sounds as if other people are having problems, too.
Word back from Comcast is that they are not blocking anything from rovernet.ca, but in my last call to the someone gave me a number to someone in their commercial section who can gain immediate access to some data.
I think we've done that subscribe through another email address thing already, but I've already got email addresses through three different ISPs.?? I have subcribed through gmail.com and through email.secureserver.net (GoDaddy) but I have not seen the subscription confirmation messages that normally appear. Yahoo Mail returned the subscription confirmation message. Can send and receive messages.
So, Rovernet is functional on one out of four email services. It is either blocked by or does not send to three out of four ISPs.
Just to be clear on what we've troubleshot already on Comcast:? 1) No Rovernet messages are showing up in my online SPAM folder? 2) We had the same problem when I had the SPAM filter entirely turned off? 3) You don't seem to have anything to confirm that messages are being sent to me from Rovernet.
Listen, I know you are limited in what you can do from your end, but it doesn't make sense that a fully functional Rovernet/Mailman cannot interact with the other three email systems.
Glen
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 08:26:22 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Connection woes...
In-Reply-To: <112146.73109.qm@web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <979864.40509.qm@web110314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Glen,
You can select plain text as an option with a yahoo! mail account. I set this one up many years ago and it works fine with the Rovernet. I'll see if I can find the correct control panel and give you instructions.
Nathan
--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Glen Wilson <rovercarwilson at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercarwilson at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Connection woes...
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 9:32 PM
> Just testing, again. I can't
> subscribe via my Gmail or GoDaddy email accounts. I can send
> but not receive on my Comcast account.
>
> Thisis from an old Yahoo Mail account, but I don't see any
> option for setting it to plain text.
>
> So, here goes.? Testing, again.
>
> Glen
>
>
>
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 08:35:43 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Connection woes...
In-Reply-To: <112146.73109.qm@web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <570957.45999.qm@web110314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Glen,
First, you want to be in Yahoo mail classic.
Select the "Options" tab on the far right- it's a drop down menu with three choices- choose "Mail Options"
You should then be looking at a list of "General" settings. 8 down from the top is a Mode selection: "Compose messages as text & Graphics" or "Plain Text." (Of course, you want to select the latter, save your changes and you're good to go.)
I do occasionally find Rovernet messages in my Yahoo spam folder. You can fix this by periodically checking your spam folder for rovernet messages, clicking on them and then selecting "This is not spam." Once all the suspected spam e-mail addresses are in your Yahoo account, you shouldn't have any further issues.
Good luck!
Nathan
--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Glen Wilson <rovercarwilson at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercarwilson at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Connection woes...
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 9:32 PM
> Just testing, again. I can't
> subscribe via my Gmail or GoDaddy email accounts. I can send
> but not receive on my Comcast account.
>
> Thisis from an old Yahoo Mail account, but I don't see any
> option for setting it to plain text.
>
> So, here goes.? Testing, again.
>
> Glen
>
>
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From rovercar at comcast.net Thu Apr 1 09:31:54 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:31:54 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Thanks, Nathan
Message-ID: <4BB4A04A.9000806@comcast.net>
The Yahoo message I sent went through fine, so it must have sent plain
text only or html with a plain text copy.
Glen
From rovercar at comcast.net Thu Apr 1 09:42:07 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:42:07 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Connections
Message-ID: <4BB4A2AF.3010003@comcast.net>
I don't mean to keep involving the entire list with my connection
problems. Generally, I can send but I cannot receive. Unfortunately, I
can only find out if things are working by sending messages to Rovernet.
Eric has worked very hard (as he always does) to solve my problem, but a
lot of the answers are out there in the ether in the bowels of some
network server that we cannot view or access. It a little frustrating
for all of us.
Glen
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 12:23:32 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:23:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet on GMAIL
Message-ID: <497364.66072.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
?Would someone who is using a "Gmail" or a "Comcast" email account please send a test message to the Rovernet rovernet at rovernet.ca to see if you can both send to and receive from the Rovernet mailing list.? One or more of our members is having trouble and we are trying to sort out if the send/receive problem is related to the system Rovernet uses, a problem with personal accounts, or with a service provider's settings.
Thanks in advance.
Eric
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"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 12:28:49 2010
From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:28:49 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet on GMAIL
In-Reply-To: <497364.66072.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <497364.66072.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <x2n204ec4391004010928z8f41f14fq2d492a7d3b2961e@mail.gmail.com>
Testing per Eric's request.
I have found many though not most of the RoverNet messages are getting
trapped in Gmail's Spam filters
Aidrian
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 12:31:13 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet on GMAIL
In-Reply-To: <x2n204ec4391004010928z8f41f14fq2d492a7d3b2961e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <586191.95878.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks Adrian. Extremely helpful of you.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <smokeandsteam at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <smokeandsteam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet on GMAIL
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 9:28 AM
> Testing per Eric's request.
>
> I have found many though not most of the RoverNet messages
> are getting
> trapped in Gmail's Spam filters
>
> Aidrian
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 12:31:25 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:31:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] USA: anyone want a set of black rear
seats?
Message-ID: <843499.94318.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi all,
I've got a set of P6 rear seats, door cards, and shin bins in black vinyl.? I believe they are Series I.? They are in excellent condition apart from a couple of small tears on the seats (none of which I think are visible with the seats installed), and the fact that the foam on the upright parts of the seats has turned very crumbly.? It will still serve as a pattern to make new foams.
I'm hoping to get about $50.00 + postage for the lot.
Please email me direct if you want a link to pictures.
Regards,
Jim
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 12:33:53 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:33:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet on Comcast
Message-ID: <787316.31140.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Would someone who is using a "Gmail" or a "Comcast" email account please send a test message to the Rovernet rovernet at rovernet.ca to see if you can both send to and receive from the Rovernet mailing list. One or more of our members is having trouble and we are trying to sort out if the send/receive problem is related to the system Rovernet uses, a problem with personal accounts, or with a service provider's settings.
Thanks in advance.
Eric
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 14:04:00 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:04:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Comcast Rovernet subscribers
Message-ID: <264272.49171.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Sorry,
If you are a Comcast subscriber AND can receive Rovernet messages please send a test message to BOTH the Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca> AND to me at p6rovers at yahoo.com
There seems to be a reception and delivery problem.
Eric
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From slatskars at comcast.net Thu Apr 1 14:11:21 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:11:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test
Message-ID: <1815973657.1026661270145481536.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Testing!
Slats
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 14:14:29 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test
In-Reply-To: <1815973657.1026661270145481536.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <271988.19890.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Test Received.
Thursday, April 1
Looked at mail: 11:13 am
Eric
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--- On Thu, 4/1/10, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 11:11 AM
>
>
> Testing!
>
>
>
> Slats
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From rovernet at shaw.ca Thu Apr 1 14:35:13 2010
From: rovernet at shaw.ca (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:35:13 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT -Test
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAANJubj1dZ7kOR7CvGQT/QngEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
Test
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From erussellrv at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 14:58:54 2010
From: erussellrv at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:58:54 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test message from Rovernet@shaw.ca
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAsFPGZ0p32kulwRWR4/cUgQEAAAAA@yahoo.com>
Test message from rovernet at shaw.ca
Had to change settings so that outgoing mail was converted to Plain Text in
"options".
Eric
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From magnet at roverclub.org Thu Apr 1 17:41:24 2010
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:41:24 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] John Sheuring
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP63C7FB154605F9DDA9A66F911D0@phx.gbl>
I'm trying to get in touch with John David Sheuring. If you're reading
this list, John, can you please drop me a note at magnet at rovercub.org ?
Many thanks,
-- Bill Daddis
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 18:04:40 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] John Sheuring
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP63C7FB154605F9DDA9A66F911D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <33984.46811.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Bill,
I think you missed an "L".
I think you meant, in the body of your message: magnet at roverclub.org
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote:
> From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] John Sheuring
> To: "ROVERNET" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 2:41 PM
> I'm trying to get in touch with John
> David Sheuring.? If you're reading this list, John, can
> you please drop me a note at magnet at rovercub.org
> ?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> -- Bill Daddis
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From quakertech at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 18:22:09 2010
From: quakertech at gmail.com (Glen Wilson)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:22:09 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test
Message-ID: <l2p13d9cc421004011522p61256088w8d1f041917d51259@mail.gmail.com>
Testing Gmail account. Looks like Rovernet functioned properly but
Gmail put the subscription invite message into the spam folder (a
folder that one doesn't even see unless you click on something else).
My bad.
Glen
From quakertech at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 18:42:29 2010
From: quakertech at gmail.com (Glen Wilson)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:42:29 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test
Message-ID: <n2r13d9cc421004011542n5968e6b9l9de0d0c0181429c5@mail.gmail.com>
Update. I can send to the list from Gmail, but messages are not
coming back. They are in the archives. My Rovernet settings are set so
that I should see my messages. Nothing in the spam folder. Same
symptoms at Comcast address.
Glen
From gwilson at quakertech.com Thu Apr 1 18:48:39 2010
From: gwilson at quakertech.com (gwilson at quakertech.com)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:48:39 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test
Message-ID: <20100401154839.5faa89c132e7873d8368ebf7352ddd90.df2fd3e605.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Test
From gwilson at quakertech.com Thu Apr 1 18:53:33 2010
From: gwilson at quakertech.com (gwilson at quakertech.com)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:53:33 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test
Message-ID: <20100401155333.5faa89c132e7873d8368ebf7352ddd90.0ffd5e4f84.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Update. I can send to the list from GoDaddy mail account, but messages
are not
coming back. They are in the archives. My Rovernet settings are set so
that I should see my messages. Nothing in the spam folder. Same
symptoms at Comcast address and Gmail.
Glen
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 21:22:01 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
Message-ID: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Is anyone receiving Rovernet mail?
There seems to be trouble in Rover City.......
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Thu Apr 1 21:42:25 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:42:25 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
In-Reply-To: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <pqiar5lokuodq1fajgv8svdsutbkuorct7@4ax.com>
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:22:01 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>Is anyone receiving Rovernet mail?
>There seems to be trouble in Rover City.......
Double checking the Archives, yes I have received everything posted on
1 April.
Cheers,
Peter H
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 22:06:53 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:06:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
In-Reply-To: <pqiar5lokuodq1fajgv8svdsutbkuorct7@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <802513.85149.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks. Good old reliable Peter....
:-)
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 6:42 PM
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:22:01 -0700
> (PDT), you wrote:
>
> >Is anyone receiving Rovernet mail?
> >There seems to be trouble in Rover City.......
> Double checking the Archives, yes I have received
> everything posted on
> 1 April.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter H
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Fri Apr 2 02:47:59 2010
From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 06:47:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
In-Reply-To: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <171083.31307.qm@web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
As far as I know I'm getting them all Eric.
I feel the problem Glen may still be operating an original Marconi steam-powered 'difference engine' rather than the computers the rest of us run and when you add this to the quality of Pennsylvanian coal is it any wonder he's having problems?
A Sinclair ZX Spectrum would make a world of difference........ ;)
Alan Francis (partviking)
________________________________
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, 2 April, 2010 2:22:01
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
Is anyone receiving Rovernet mail?
There seems to be trouble in Rover City.......
Eric
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"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From mark.brown.rover at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 07:19:21 2010
From: mark.brown.rover at gmail.com (Mark Brown)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:19:21 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
In-Reply-To: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6DF75143-03F4-47E0-A80A-2035404353DD@gmail.com>
Receiving all, Eric...just spending more time outside than on the
computer with the advent of spring. :-)
Mark Brown
On 1-Apr-10, at 10:22 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Is anyone receiving Rovernet mail?
> There seems to be trouble in Rover City.......
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
>
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From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 12:28:43 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:28:43 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
In-Reply-To: <171083.31307.qm@web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<171083.31307.qm@web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BB61B3B.7060006@comcast.net>
Partviking wrote:
> As far as I know I'm getting them all Eric.
>
> I feel the problem Glen may still be operating an original Marconi steam-powered 'difference engine' rather than the computers the rest of us run and when you add this to the quality of Pennsylvanian coal is it any wonder he's having problems?
>
> A Sinclair ZX Spectrum would make a world of difference........ ;)
>
> Alan Francis (partviking)
>
Alan,
I use only the latest steam-powered equipment since I live in Eddystone,
Pa where all of the greatest steam locomotives were built by the Baldwin
Locomotive Works. I think some tiny detail has changed in the header of
Rovernet messages that has set off alarms in the filters of some email
services, or else these services subscribe to some basic list of
spammers and THAT has changed. Right now, my messages are received by
Gmail, relayed to Comcast, an I can send responses out of Comcast.
However, all Rovernet email messages are now flagged as spam by my
Thunderbird email reading software, which has never happened before. I
don't know how many other people are having issues. All my clean livin'
used to protect me from stuff like this.
Glen
From anders at xoz.dk Fri Apr 2 12:24:13 2010
From: anders at xoz.dk (anders at xoz.dk)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:24:13 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
In-Reply-To: <4BB61B3B.7060006@comcast.net>
References: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<171083.31307.qm@web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
<4BB61B3B.7060006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E1NxjfJ-0006wz-FM@webhotel3.webhosting.dk>
P? ferie. Hjemme igen 11. April.
From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Fri Apr 2 12:39:31 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:39:31 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
In-Reply-To: <4BB61B3B.7060006@comcast.net>
References: <236453.62521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <171083.31307.qm@web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
<4BB61B3B.7060006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BB61DC3.6050801@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Glen,
I seem to be getting sporadic reception from the Rovernet Broadcasting
System (RBS) too. My latest Rovernet emails before yours just now were
one responding to a test of the parallel yahoo group on 3/28 and one
about camel reflectors on 3/25. --Steve
P.S. Today it's possible to tinker with Rovers out in the sun for a
change; we're drying out after the latest Massachusetts monsoon.
Glen Wilson wrote:
> Partviking wrote:
>> As far as I know I'm getting them all Eric.
>> I feel the problem Glen may still be operating an original Marconi
>> steam-powered 'difference engine' rather than the computers the rest
>> of us run and when you add this to the quality of Pennsylvanian coal
>> is it any wonder he's having problems?
>>
>> A Sinclair ZX Spectrum would make a world of difference........ ;)
>>
>> Alan Francis (partviking)
>>
>
> Alan,
>
> I use only the latest steam-powered equipment since I live in
> Eddystone, Pa where all of the greatest steam locomotives were built
> by the Baldwin Locomotive Works. I think some tiny detail has changed
> in the header of Rovernet messages that has set off alarms in the
> filters of some email services, or else these services subscribe to
> some basic list of spammers and THAT has changed. Right now, my
> messages are received by Gmail, relayed to Comcast, an I can send
> responses out of Comcast. However, all Rovernet email messages are now
> flagged as spam by my Thunderbird email reading software, which has
> never happened before. I don't know how many other people are having
> issues. All my clean livin' used to protect me from stuff like this.
>
> Glen
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
From magnet at roverclub.org Fri Apr 2 13:02:30 2010
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:02:30 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover owner John Sheuring
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP262A8EDAE1D3A5A0722AA7911C0@phx.gbl>
I'm trying to get in touch with John David Sheuring. If you're reading
this list, John, can you please drop me a note at magnet at rovercub.org ?
Many thanks,
-- Bill Daddis
T.A.R.C.
From slatskars at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 14:18:32 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:18:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail, Drought over
In-Reply-To: <4BB61B3B.7060006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <202421927.1410981270232312273.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Glen,
It seems that whatever was wrong has now gone away. I had four rovernet messages including this one this morning. Yes it is still morning here on the LEFT coast.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 9:28:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
Partviking wrote:
> As far as I know I'm getting them all Eric.
>
> I feel the problem Glen may still be operating an original Marconi steam-powered 'difference engine' rather than the computers the rest of us run and when you add this to the quality of Pennsylvanian coal is it any wonder he's having problems?
>
> A Sinclair ZX Spectrum would make a world of difference........ ;)
>
> Alan Francis (partviking)
> ?
Alan,
I use only the latest steam-powered equipment since I live in Eddystone,
Pa where all of the greatest steam locomotives were built by the Baldwin
Locomotive Works. I think some tiny detail has changed in the header of
Rovernet messages that has set off alarms in the filters of some email
services, or else these services subscribe to some basic list of
spammers and THAT has changed. Right now, my messages are received by
Gmail, relayed to Comcast, an I can send responses out of Comcast.
However, all Rovernet email messages are now flagged as spam by my
Thunderbird email reading software, which has never happened before. I
don't know how many other people are having issues. All my clean livin'
used to protect me from stuff like this.
Glen
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 15:01:10 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:01:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet
In-Reply-To: <4BB623B4.6040703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <821463.11006.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Glen and others,
Here is a copy/paste of the section on the Rovernet server. I can change some "Reply to" options. Do you see changes you would like me to try?
Eric
*****************************************************************
Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields)
(Edit anonymous_list)
No Yes
****************************************
Reply-To: header munging
Should any existing Reply-To: header found in the original message be stripped? If so, this will be done regardless of whether an explict Reply-To: header is added by Mailman or not.
(Edit first_strip_reply_to)
No Yes
***************************************
Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists.
(Details for reply_goes_to_list)
Poster ***** This list ***** Explicit address *****
Explicit Reply-To: header.
(Details for reply_to_address)
ed. note: sets reply to address of choice
********************************************************
end of options
***********************************************************
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Fri, 4/2/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Rovernet
> To: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Received: Friday, April 2, 2010, 10:04 AM
> Eric,
>
> I just spoke with Comcast's abuse and security people at
> 856-317-7272 in New Jersey.
>
> 1.? They say that since my SPAM filters are completely
> disabled in my account setting, the SPAM filters are not
> stopping the Rovernet messages
>
> 2.? They say that Rovernet could be "blacklisted" but
> that is done by IP address, and we would have to provide
> that to check.
>
> 3.? They say that if Comcast was blocking Rovernet,
> Rovernet would bet a message back from Comcast saying that
> it was blocked.
>
> Do you know why the Sender is rovernet at rovernet.ca
> and the Reply To rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca??
> Could it be that there is an issue with the sender and the
> reply to addresses are not the same?
>
> Glen
>
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From rovernet at shaw.ca Fri Apr 2 15:13:37 2010
From: rovernet at shaw.ca (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:13:37 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail, Drought over
In-Reply-To: <202421927.1410981270232312273.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAV8a28mLH8Eybxd5jgEpN1QEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
Slats and Comcast folk. Here`s a copy and paste of a message Glen sent to me
on his troubleshooting:
Geff, Glen and Slats use Comcast.
All three people had trouble with receiving Rovernet.
Glen called Comcast and suddenly all Comcast folk notice an improvement.
Here is a copy/paste of Glen?s message below:
**********************************************************
From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Rovernet
> To: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Received: Friday, April 2, 2010, 10:04 AM
> Eric,
>
> I just spoke with Comcast's abuse and security people at
> 856-317-7272 in New Jersey.
>
> 1. They say that since my SPAM filters are completely
> disabled in my account setting, the SPAM filters are not
> stopping the Rovernet messages
>
> 2. They say that Rovernet could be "blacklisted" but
> that is done by IP address, and we would have to provide
> that to check.
>
> 3. They say that if Comcast was blocking Rovernet,
> Rovernet would bet a message back from Comcast saying that
> it was blocked.
>
> Do you know why the Sender is rovernet at rovernet.ca
> and the Reply To rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca?
> Could it be that there is an issue with the sender and the
> reply to addresses are not the same?
>
> Glen
****************************************************************************
Why would a concerned customer call suddenly loosen the hold on Rovernet
messages unless there WAS a Spam blocking routine in place (conspiracy
theory :-)
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of slatskars at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:19 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail, Drought over
Glen,
It seems that whatever was wrong has now gone away. I had four rovernet
messages including this one this morning. Yes it is still morning here on
the LEFT coast.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 9:28:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail
Partviking wrote:
> As far as I know I'm getting them all Eric.
>
> I feel the problem Glen may still be operating an original Marconi
steam-powered 'difference engine' rather than the computers the rest of us
run and when you add this to the quality of Pennsylvanian coal is it any
wonder he's having problems?
>
> A Sinclair ZX Spectrum would make a world of difference........ ;)
>
> Alan Francis (partviking)
> ?
Alan,
I use only the latest steam-powered equipment since I live in Eddystone,
Pa where all of the greatest steam locomotives were built by the Baldwin
Locomotive Works. I think some tiny detail has changed in the header of
Rovernet messages that has set off alarms in the filters of some email
services, or else these services subscribe to some basic list of
spammers and THAT has changed. Right now, my messages are received by
Gmail, relayed to Comcast, an I can send responses out of Comcast.
However, all Rovernet email messages are now flagged as spam by my
Thunderbird email reading software, which has never happened before. I
don't know how many other people are having issues. All my clean livin'
used to protect me from stuff like this.
Glen
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to scroll down the whole page.
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From slatskars at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 15:53:49 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:53:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet mail, Drought over
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAV8a28mLH8Eybxd5jgEpN1QEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <472456813.1448561270238029142.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Eric,
It really is strange. Messages were getting through and then suddenly zilch. It sounds like something was wrong at Comcast, but they do not want to admit it. Glens, call probably got some twerp to look a little deeper, but rather than a courtesy reply call, he just fixed it.
I have had no difficulty with other e-mails or lists. This reminds me of a time when I had earthlink as a provider. When typing an e-mail the cursor would suddenly jump back to the being of the message and really screw (technical term) thing up. I called them several times with no real solution. They had me remove and reload there software, etc. They kept insisting that it was my computer. I changed providers and the problem went away. Simple solution.
Slats
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From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 17:23:29 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:23:29 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAV8a28mLH8Eybxd5jgEpN1QEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAV8a28mLH8Eybxd5jgEpN1QEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <4BB66051.90803@comcast.net>
I received the last few messages, but I should have seen duplicates due
to forwarding from Gmail. I turned that off. I'll see if this comes through.
Glen
From rovernet at shaw.ca Fri Apr 2 17:29:48 2010
From: rovernet at shaw.ca (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:29:48 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test
In-Reply-To: <4BB66051.90803@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAA8p5H7FQUGU2EwxIVw0vxOgEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
Glen,
I see this test message.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Glen Wilson
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:23 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test
I received the last few messages, but I should have seen duplicates due
to forwarding from Gmail. I turned that off. I'll see if this comes through.
Glen
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to scroll down the whole page.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 17:30:52 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:30:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test
In-Reply-To: <4BB66051.90803@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <23002.58866.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Glen,
Read your Rovernet message on this account.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Fri, 4/2/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, April 2, 2010, 2:23 PM
> I received the last few messages, but
> I should have seen duplicates due to forwarding from Gmail.
> I turned that off. I'll see if this comes through.
>
> Glen
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 17:36:02 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:36:02 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test response
In-Reply-To: <4BB66051.90803@comcast.net>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAV8a28mLH8Eybxd5jgEpN1QEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
<4BB66051.90803@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BB66342.2070503@comcast.net>
Looks like it is working.
There are other things online called rovernet. Maybe the guy at Comcast
could see more of the headers than I.
I will unsubscribe all the other addresses I was testing and make sure
it's still there.
Glen
From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 17:39:55 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:39:55 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] test
Message-ID: <4BB6642B.8000705@comcast.net>
test
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 18:56:44 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:56:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
Message-ID: <420225.3535.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Testing, 1, 2, 3....
Are you receiving, Glen?
Eric
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From slatskars at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 19:01:40 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:01:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
In-Reply-To: <420225.3535.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <129165362.1508961270249300050.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
I have received?test messages from both Eric and Glen. Looking good!
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 3:56:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
Testing, 1, 2, 3....
Are you receiving, Glen?
Eric
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From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 19:16:56 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:16:56 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
In-Reply-To: <420225.3535.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <420225.3535.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BB67AE8.404@comcast.net>
Eric Russell wrote:
> Testing, 1, 2, 3....
> Are you receiving, Glen?
>
> Eric
I see you. Do you see me?
From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 19:19:36 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:19:36 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
In-Reply-To: <4BB67AE8.404@comcast.net>
References: <420225.3535.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4BB67AE8.404@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BB67B88.3090907@comcast.net>
Send and receive capability confirmed, but I think a couple of my test
messages disappeared. Let's assume that all is well.
Glen
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 19:20:00 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:20:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
In-Reply-To: <129165362.1508961270249300050.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <372864.21529.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Slats, Glen, and all the poor innocent folk everywhere :-)
The message on my <p6rovers at yahoo.com> web browser mail account which I mainly use for the Rovernet came from <slatskars at comcast.net>. When I click the blue hotlink to the message shows that the message was "From:" <slatskars at comcast.net> but "To:" was <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
When I hit "Reply" to Slats' Rovernet message,....... the automatic "To:" switches to <rovernet at rovernet.ca> (ie. the reply goes to the list, as planned).
However, when I view the same message to an account I set up such that it goes to the inbox on my POP email account through "Outlook", the header is different. It says that the message is from:
rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca; on behalf of; slatskars at comcast.net
Underneath the "From:" is the "To:" which is <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
So,....... I am guessing.... that if a person uses a POP email program to read Rovernet mail, you might see "rovernet-bounces" which is, apparently, a routine the server uses.
Eric
--- On Fri, 4/2/10, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, April 2, 2010, 4:01 PM
>
>
> I have received?test messages from both Eric and Glen.
> Looking good!
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>
> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 3:56:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> Pacific
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test.
> Please ignore.
>
> Testing, 1, 2, 3....
> Are you receiving, Glen?
>
> Eric
>
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> 1979;
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> 1975
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 19:25:07 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:25:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
In-Reply-To: <4BB67AE8.404@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <81847.40663.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Glen,
I wrote to the Rovernet regarding how the Rovernet looks to my when using my web browser and "Yahoo Mail" compared to how it looks coming through a regular POP mail program like Outlook. Hope you get that message, as well.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Fri, 4/2/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, April 2, 2010, 4:16 PM
> Eric Russell wrote:
> > Testing, 1, 2, 3....
> > Are you receiving, Glen?
> >
> > Eric
>
> I see you. Do you see me?
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 19:26:35 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:26:35 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] last test
Message-ID: <4BB67D2B.90306@comcast.net>
123
From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 2 19:27:51 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:27:51 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Yet another test. Please ignore.
In-Reply-To: <4BB67B88.3090907@comcast.net>
References: <420225.3535.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4BB67AE8.404@comcast.net>
<4BB67B88.3090907@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BB67D77.9040606@comcast.net>
Glen Wilson wrote:
> Send and receive capability confirmed, but I think a couple of my test
> messages disappeared. Let's assume that all is well.
>
> Glen
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Apr 3 10:28:34 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 10:28:34 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test 1111
In-Reply-To: <4BB67B88.3090907@comcast.net>
References: <420225.3535.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4BB67AE8.404@comcast.net>
<4BB67B88.3090907@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BB75092.5000107@comcast.net>
Glen Wilson wrote:
> Send and receive capability confirmed, but I think a couple of my test
> messages disappeared. Let's assume that all is well.
>
> Glen
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
Bad news: The last four messages in the archives did not come out to me.
When I view a Rovernet message, reply to is rovernet at rovernet.ca and
that works fine.
So, I seem to be able to send reliably, but do not see every message. I
have the spam filters completely disabled, and web interface messages
match what's in my email program.
Glen
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 11:00:58 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
In-Reply-To: <4BB75092.5000107@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <708443.98671.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Glen et al,
I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this Mailman thing.
Ref: The Peter Principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by Yahoo Groups?
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
What do you think?
Eric
List Admin
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test 1111
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 7:28 AM
> Glen Wilson wrote:
> > Send and receive capability confirmed, but I think a
> couple of my test messages disappeared. Let's assume that
> all is well.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go
> to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> >
> Bad news: The last four messages in the archives did not
> come out to me.
>
> When I view a Rovernet message, reply to is rovernet at rovernet.ca
> and that works fine.
>
> So, I seem to be able to send reliably, but do not see
> every message. I have the spam filters completely disabled,
> and web interface messages match what's in my email
> program.
>
> Glen
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sat Apr 3 12:51:08 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:51:08 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
Message-ID: <BAY119-W7977A87E830B2939353DBDE1B0@phx.gbl>
Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
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From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Apr 3 13:14:54 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:14:54 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
In-Reply-To: <708443.98671.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <708443.98671.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BB7778E.30907@comcast.net>
Eric Russell wrote:
> Glen et al,
> I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this Mailman thing.
> Ref: The Peter Principle
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
>
> Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by Yahoo Groups?
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> What do you think?
>
> Eric
> List Admin
>
Eric, from what I can tell from my research, the Mailman software is not
difficult in terms of routine administration but becomes a very geeky
command-line proposition when one needs to troubleshoot it. So, don't
feel bad if you decide it is more trouble than it is worth, if it's
going to be problems. Your version of Mailman is only one minor revision
behind the absolute newest. At this point, there may be easier ways to
accomplish the same result, and nobody wants you tearing your hair out
if there's no need.
I know Google Groups can perfectly simulate the current list operation
as well as supply a web interface. You know more about Yahoo.
One thing I'm not clear on is how widespread the problems are. I know
you want the list to work for everyone, but is it just a few people like
me who could do work-arounds?
Whatever you choose to do will have my support.
Glen
how many people are actually experiencing trouble?
From slatskars at comcast.net Sat Apr 3 13:53:06 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
In-Reply-To: <708443.98671.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <108753239.1679641270317186666.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Eric,
I also follow the MGB group, on MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com and it seems to work flawlessly.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 8:00:58 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
Glen et al,
I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this Mailman thing.
Ref: The Peter Principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by Yahoo Groups?
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
What do you think?
Eric
List Admin
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test 1111
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 7:28 AM
> Glen Wilson wrote:
> > Send and receive capability confirmed, but I think a
> couple of my test messages disappeared. Let's assume that
> all is well.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go
> to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> >
> Bad news: The last four messages in the archives did not
> come out to me.
>
> When I view a Rovernet message, reply to is rovernet at rovernet.ca
> and that works fine.
>
> So, I seem to be able to send reliably, but do not see
> every message. I have the spam filters completely disabled,
> and web interface messages match what's in my email
> program.
>
> Glen
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 14:26:58 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W7977A87E830B2939353DBDE1B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <946400.66071.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Bill,
There does seem to be problems which are beyond my control.
We are considering moving to the alternate Yahoo Groups list. Would you like to be included?
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
>
> Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the
> Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Robertson
> ???
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From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 14:37:10 2010
From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:37:10 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
In-Reply-To: <946400.66071.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY119-W7977A87E830B2939353DBDE1B0@phx.gbl>
<946400.66071.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <o2x204ec4391004031137u867dfbd3u9a09712bc3604760@mail.gmail.com>
A Lucas built Intenet...hmmm...that might explain intermittent
failures better than anything else that has been proposed so far
More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter than is
getting through at the moment
Aidrian
On 4/3/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bill,
> There does seem to be problems which are beyond my control.
> We are considering moving to the alternate Yahoo Groups list. Would you like
> to be included?
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
>>
>> Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the
>> Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bill Robertson
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sat Apr 3 14:39:27 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:39:27 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
References: <946400.66071.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A7FB6AC03BAF4C20A72348F5E0BF2EA0@rw>
I?ve got and I?m still getting all Rovernet mails without continuously problems.
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
>
> Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the
> Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Robertson
>
>
>
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 15:26:56 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:26:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy - PLEASE
READ
In-Reply-To: <o2x204ec4391004031137u867dfbd3u9a09712bc3604760@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
As Aidrian notes:
>
> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
> than is getting through at the moment
>
> Aidrian
>
***********************************
The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web host we are currently using.
The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have knowledge or control access over anything on the list other than the web interface produced for List Managers.
I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are being blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some members.
I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About 6 people replied. To me, this means:
1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who responded to my request.
3. Only 6 people care
I have reached the end of what I can do.
>>>>I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on what to do. <<<<
In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules for joining in the future.
The list address is:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet messages in this email format.
1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the system is broken.
5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about a potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and that's no good.
Eric Russell
List Manager
The Rovernet
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From magnet at roverclub.org Sat Apr 3 15:53:31 2010
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:53:31 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
PLEASE READ
In-Reply-To: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP682174CFAE851C83DE1C6B911B0@phx.gbl>
Hi Eric,
Seems to be working OK now. It was very quiet for a couple of days, and
a message I posted never showed up, but as I say, it seems to be OK now,
your conversation with Glen and all the various test messages arrived.
Cheers,
-- Bill D.
===========================================
Eric Russell wrote:
> As Aidrian notes:
>
>> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
>> than is getting through at the moment
>>
>> Aidrian
>>
>>
> ***********************************
> The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web host we are currently using.
>
> The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have knowledge or control access over anything on the list other than the web interface produced for List Managers.
>
> I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
>
> Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are being blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some members.
>
> I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About 6 people replied. To me, this means:
> 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who responded to my request.
> 3. Only 6 people care
>
> I have reached the end of what I can do.
>
>
>>>>> I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on what to do. <<<<
>>>>>
>
> In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
> Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules for joining in the future.
> The list address is:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet messages in this email format.
>
> 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
> 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the system is broken.
> 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about a potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
> 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
>
> I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and that's no good.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Manager
> The Rovernet
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
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> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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>
>
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From lrlegrow at vaxxine.com Sat Apr 3 16:14:56 2010
From: lrlegrow at vaxxine.com (lrlegrow at vaxxine.com)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:14:56 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Re receipt of mail sent to mailing list
In-Reply-To: <mailman.176.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
References: <mailman.176.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <1270325696.4bb7a1c0eb8bf@web.vaxxine.com>
Eric
I am receiving all mail as far as I can determine ..... If you change methods ,
please advise how to confirm receipt of the messages or how to rejoin best of
luck ... Lloyd LeGrow lrlegrow at vaxxine.com
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From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Apr 3 16:53:51 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:53:51 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] possible remedy - PLEASE READ
In-Reply-To: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BB7AADF.1070104@comcast.net>
Eric,
I believe the Mailman software is more trouble than it is worth for a
list this size, now that there are other options. In the past, it was
the best way to go. Are you paying for a server to support Mailman? If
so, it would save the RCCC if that expense was eliminated.
I went to the Yahoo site and signed in with the only Yahoo address I can
recall having, and it doesn't recognize me as a member. That's not a
defect with Yahoo groups, but it's been a long time since I got any mail
from Yahoo groups.
Can you describe how the Yahoo group would work? Can you opt to receive
emails as we currently do, or do we have to sign in at Yahoo and use the
web interface?
At Google groups, you can make the list public or private. You also have
about three ways to subscribe people, and the tightest option is by
invitation only. If you wanted to, you could put an email address up at
the Group home page and have people request to join. Yahoo may have
similar options.
Glen
> ***********************************
> The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web host we are currently using.
>
> The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have knowledge or control access over anything on the list other than the web interface produced for List Managers.
>
> I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
>
> Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are being blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some members.
>
> I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About 6 people replied. To me, this means:
> 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who responded to my request.
> 3. Only 6 people care
>
> I have reached the end of what I can do.
>
>
>>>>> I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on what to do. <<<<
>>>>>
>
> In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
> Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules for joining in the future.
> The list address is:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet messages in this email format.
>
> 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
> 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the system is broken.
> 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about a potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
> 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
>
> I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and that's no good.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Manager
> The Rovernet
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now
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>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 17:14:32 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
PLEASE READ
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP682174CFAE851C83DE1C6B911B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <334763.18534.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Bill,
Thanks for replying.
You had added some more information - the list paused or stopped working and now it seems to be working again. That seemed to coincide with a telephone call Glen made to Comcast. Maybe it's not connected.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote:
> From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy - PLEASE READ
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 12:53 PM
> Hi Eric,
>
> Seems to be working OK now.? It was very quiet for a
> couple of days, and
> a message I posted never showed up, but as I say, it seems
> to be OK now,
> your conversation with Glen and all the various test
> messages arrived.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Bill D.
>
> ===========================================
>
>
> Eric Russell wrote:
> > As Aidrian notes:
> >???
> >> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam
> filter
> >> than is getting through at the moment
> >>
> >> Aidrian
> >>
> >>? ???
> > ***********************************
> > The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was
> installed in the "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca>
> web site by an "engineer" from the web host we are currently
> using.
> >
> > The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman
> software and has become unavailable for consultation. I am
> on my own.? I don't have knowledge or control access
> over anything on the list other than the web interface
> produced for List Managers.
> >
> > I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to
> press.
> >
> > Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It
> *seems* if the Rovernet messages are being caught in one or
> more SPAM filters and are being blocked or discarded by the
> Internet Service Providers of some members.
> >
> > I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting
> Rovernet email. About 6 people replied. To me, this means:
> > 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> > 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more
> people than who responded to my request.
> > 3. Only 6 people care
> >
> > I have reached the end of what I can do.
> >
> >???
> >>>>> I am proposing a discussion among
> interested Rovernet subscribers on what to do.
> <<<<
> >>>>>? ? ? ?
> ???
> >
> > In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they
> would like to be included an an alternative Mailing List if
> the main list fails to work properly. I do have a list of
> names in the "Contacts" for that list.
> > Some people were able to join that list and send
> adverts and Spam email. I deleted their messages and email
> addresses and I should tighten the rules for joining in the
> future.
> > The list address is:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> >
> > You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue
> receiving Rovernet messages in this email format.
> >
> > 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet
> email messages, tell us now. (In other words - what is the
> degree of our problem?)
> > 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be
> switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> > 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to
> be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> > 4. If most of the members do not respond to this
> email, I will believe the system is broken.
> > 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the
> membership list, name by name (240 people or so), copy an
> email address and copy it into a contact list on a
> <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a
> message about a potential change. I can cross-check this
> against the contacts in the Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and
> eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
> > 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to
> be engaged through the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off
> the Mailman version of the Rovernet and we will continue
> with the Yahoo Groups version.
> >
> > I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the
> current situation to be very frustrating and I am sensing
> frustration on the part of others and that's no good.
> >
> > Eric Russell
> > List Manager
> > The Rovernet
> >
> >
> >? ?
> ???__________________________________________________________________
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> >
> >
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>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 17:15:32 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Re receipt of mail sent to mailing
list
In-Reply-To: <1270325696.4bb7a1c0eb8bf@web.vaxxine.com>
Message-ID: <820312.92849.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks, Lloyd.
We'll keep you closer under our wing. :-)
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, lrlegrow at vaxxine.com <lrlegrow at vaxxine.com> wrote:
> From: lrlegrow at vaxxine.com <lrlegrow at vaxxine.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Re receipt of mail sent to mailing list
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 1:14 PM
> Eric
> I am receiving all mail as far as I can determine ..... If
> you change methods ,
> please advise how to confirm receipt of the messages or how
> to rejoin???best of
> luck ... Lloyd LeGrow? lrlegrow at vaxxine.com
>
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat Apr 3 17:07:00 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:07:00 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
In-Reply-To: <o2x204ec4391004031137u867dfbd3u9a09712bc3604760@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY119-W7977A87E830B2939353DBDE1B0@phx.gbl><946400.66071.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<o2x204ec4391004031137u867dfbd3u9a09712bc3604760@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3274A225BCC345BA9BDF63FFC43A2A36@Vista>
I object entirely!
I have had No trouble with Lucas electrics.
Try working on a Japanese system if you want Confusing, and subtle
problems...
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton" <smokeandsteam at gmail.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
A Lucas built Intenet...hmmm...that might explain intermittent
failures better than anything else that has been proposed so far
More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter than is
getting through at the moment
Aidrian
On 4/3/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bill,
> There does seem to be problems which are beyond my control.
> We are considering moving to the alternate Yahoo Groups list. Would you
> like
> to be included?
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
>>
>> Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the
>> Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bill Robertson
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat Apr 3 17:07:39 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:07:39 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
PLEASEREAD
In-Reply-To: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Any group is fine by me.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:26 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
PLEASEREAD
> As Aidrian notes:
>>
>> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
>> than is getting through at the moment
>>
>> Aidrian
>>
> ***********************************
> The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the
> "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web
> host we are currently using.
>
> The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has
> become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have
> knowledge or control access over anything on the list other than the web
> interface produced for List Managers.
>
> I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
>
> Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the
> Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are
> being blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some
> members.
>
> I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About
> 6 people replied. To me, this means:
> 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who
> responded to my request.
> 3. Only 6 people care
>
> I have reached the end of what I can do.
>
>>>>>I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on
>>>>>what to do. <<<<
>
> In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be
> included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work
> properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
> Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I
> deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules
> for joining in the future.
> The list address is:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet
> messages in this email format.
>
> 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us
> now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
> 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the
> Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the
> Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the
> system is broken.
> 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by
> name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact
> list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about
> a potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the
> Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be
> involved.
> 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through
> the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the
> Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
>
> I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to
> be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and
> that's no good.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Manager
> The Rovernet
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
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> favourite sites. Download it now
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 17:29:43 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:29:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] possible remedy - PLEASE READ
In-Reply-To: <4BB7AADF.1070104@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <775942.66333.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Glen,
I'll try to work my way through your questions and eventually hope to cover all your answers.
I've learned 5 different software systems to run the Rovernet mailing list over the years. I am not sure if I want to learn a 6th system.
The RCCC annual general meeting is in a few weeks. I hope to be able to give them a report and see if the club would like to propose and vote on a motion or a few.
Anyone wanting to make a suggestion about the Rovernet or <rovernet.ca> could write to the Club Secretary of the RCCC <wreynold-at-uniserve-dot-com>
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] possible remedy - PLEASE READ
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 1:53 PM
> Eric,
>
> I believe the Mailman software is more trouble than it is
> worth for a
> list this size, now that there are other options. In the
> past, it was
> the best way to go. Are you paying for a server to support
> Mailman? If
> so, it would save the RCCC if that expense was eliminated.
>
> I went to the Yahoo site and signed in with the only Yahoo
> address I can
> recall having, and it doesn't recognize me as a member.
> That's not a
> defect with Yahoo groups, but it's been a long time since I
> got any mail
> from Yahoo groups.
>
> Can you describe how the Yahoo group would work? Can you
> opt to receive
> emails as we currently do, or do we have to sign in at
> Yahoo and use the
> web interface?
>
> At Google groups, you can make the list public or private.
> You also have
> about three ways to subscribe people, and the tightest
> option is by
> invitation only. If you wanted to, you could put an email
> address up at
> the Group home page and have people request to join. Yahoo
> may have
> similar options.
>
> Glen
> > ***********************************
> > The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was
> installed in the "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca>
> web site by an "engineer" from the web host we are currently
> using.
> >
> > The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman
> software and has become unavailable for consultation. I am
> on my own.? I don't have knowledge or control access
> over anything on the list other than the web interface
> produced for List Managers.
> >
> > I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to
> press.
> >
> > Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It
> *seems* if the Rovernet messages are being caught in one or
> more SPAM filters and are being blocked or discarded by the
> Internet Service Providers of some members.
> >
> > I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting
> Rovernet email. About 6 people replied. To me, this means:
> > 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> > 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more
> people than who responded to my request.
> > 3. Only 6 people care
> >
> > I have reached the end of what I can do.
> >
> >???
> >>>>> I am proposing a discussion among
> interested Rovernet subscribers on what to do.
> <<<<
> >>>>>? ? ? ?
> ???
> >
> > In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they
> would like to be included an an alternative Mailing List if
> the main list fails to work properly. I do have a list of
> names in the "Contacts" for that list.
> > Some people were able to join that list and send
> adverts and Spam email. I deleted their messages and email
> addresses and I should tighten the rules for joining in the
> future.
> > The list address is:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> >
> > You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue
> receiving Rovernet messages in this email format.
> >
> > 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet
> email messages, tell us now. (In other words - what is the
> degree of our problem?)
> > 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be
> switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> > 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to
> be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> > 4. If most of the members do not respond to this
> email, I will believe the system is broken.
> > 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the
> membership list, name by name (240 people or so), copy an
> email address and copy it into a contact list on a
> <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a
> message about a potential change. I can cross-check this
> against the contacts in the Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and
> eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
> > 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to
> be engaged through the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off
> the Mailman version of the Rovernet and we will continue
> with the Yahoo Groups version.
> >
> > I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the
> current situation to be very frustrating and I am sensing
> frustration on the part of others and that's no good.
> >
> > Eric Russell
> > List Manager
> > The Rovernet
> >
> >
> >? ?
> ???__________________________________________________________________
> > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the
> web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now
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> >
> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go
> to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> >
> >???
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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>
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From rovernet at shaw.ca Sat Apr 3 17:37:39 2010
From: rovernet at shaw.ca (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:37:39 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy
-PLEASEREAD
In-Reply-To: <16209463B3034E8891A682F0CB778240@Vista>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAMgLQjxnuB0W5pwh4wemHngEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
Thanks, Paul.
I'll see that you remain connected.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Netspace
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:08 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy
-PLEASEREAD
Any group is fine by me.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:26 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
PLEASEREAD
> As Aidrian notes:
>>
>> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
>> than is getting through at the moment
>>
>> Aidrian
>>
> ***********************************
> The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the
> "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web
> host we are currently using.
>
> The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has
> become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have
> knowledge or control access over anything on the list other than the web
> interface produced for List Managers.
>
> I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
>
> Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the
> Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are
> being blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some
> members.
>
> I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About
> 6 people replied. To me, this means:
> 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who
> responded to my request.
> 3. Only 6 people care
>
> I have reached the end of what I can do.
>
>>>>>I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on
>>>>>what to do. <<<<
>
> In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be
> included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work
> properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
> Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I
> deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules
> for joining in the future.
> The list address is:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet
> messages in this email format.
>
> 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us
> now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
> 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the
> Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the
> Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the
> system is broken.
> 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by
> name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact
> list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about
> a potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the
> Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be
> involved.
> 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through
> the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the
> Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
>
> I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to
> be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and
> that's no good.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Manager
> The Rovernet
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your
> favourite sites. Download it now
> http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure
to scroll down the whole page.
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sat Apr 3 17:38:35 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:38:35 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
In-Reply-To: <708443.98671.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4BB75092.5000107@comcast.net>
<708443.98671.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <kncfr5hllbue4p3q1iilld1l3vu542f02k@4ax.com>
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>Glen et al,
>I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this Mailman thing.
>Ref: The Peter Principle
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
>
>Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by Yahoo Groups?
Eric,
A you know the Rover Car Club of Australia group is on Yahoo and has
been now for many years. I have recently also started on behalf of
another member a dedicated Rover 75/MGZT group, this time using Google
just as a comparison.
Both to me work just fine. Yahoo seems to me a little easier from List
Management point of view. The administrator can test and reactivate
bouncing members, suspend or ban unruly members, (not that the RCCA
has these of course!!! ) etc a bit easier.
Both seem to occasionally get caught in Spam Traps, but over the
years, I have had no complaints about messages not getting thru.
The member does not need to have registered with either Yahoo or
Google to get and post the emails, but to access the Group web page to
see files and photos etc the member does need to register.
Seems to me maybe time to give you a rest and give Yahoo a go?
Cheers,
Peter H
From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Apr 3 18:56:36 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:56:36 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] ERIC read this!
Message-ID: <4BB7C7A4.6050100@comcast.net>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 19:13:36 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:13:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] ERIC read this!
In-Reply-To: <4BB7C7A4.6050100@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <813920.65154.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Glen,
All I saw was "An embedded message was scrubbed." If it included HTML code and was sent through the Rovernet Mailman list, the HTML code was removed.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] ERIC read this!
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 3:56 PM
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From DevlinS at bp.com Sat Apr 3 19:11:07 2010
From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor))
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:11:07 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
PLEASEREAD
References: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15709D235@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com>
Hi Eric,
I am receiving the present exchanges regarding Mailman but have received little else recently. Not keen on Yahoo groups.
Sorry you seems to be having so many problems with the list at the moment, I'm sure all your efforts are appreciated by the silent majority. Best of luck.
Stewart
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of Eric Russell
Sent: Sat 03/04/2010 20:26
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy - PLEASEREAD
As Aidrian notes:
>
> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
> than is getting through at the moment
>
> Aidrian
>
***********************************
The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web host we are currently using.
The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have knowledge or control access over anything on the list other than the web interface produced for List Managers.
I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are being blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some members.
I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About 6 people replied. To me, this means:
1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who responded to my request.
3. Only 6 people care
I have reached the end of what I can do.
>>>>I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on what to do. <<<<
In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules for joining in the future.
The list address is:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet messages in this email format.
1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the system is broken.
5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about a potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and that's no good.
Eric Russell
List Manager
The Rovernet
__________________________________________________________________
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From raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com Sat Apr 3 19:21:04 2010
From: raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com (Ray Wilkins)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:21:04 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
PLEASE READ
In-Reply-To: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BB7CD60.4090908@bigpond.com>
Eric,
I appear to be receiving all emails but then how do I know if I am not
receiving some? Quite a conundrum. Anyhow, I would be willing to
participate in an alternate list. Keep up the good work.
Ray Wilkins
Melbourne Australia
On 4/04/2010 5:26 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> As Aidrian notes:
>
>> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
>> than is getting through at the moment
>>
>> Aidrian
>>
>>
> ***********************************
> The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the "engine room" of the<Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web host we are currently using.
>
> The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have knowledge or control access over anything on the list other than the web interface produced for List Managers.
>
> I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
>
> Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are being blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some members.
>
> I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About 6 people replied. To me, this means:
> 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who responded to my request.
> 3. Only 6 people care
>
> I have reached the end of what I can do.
>
>
>>>>> I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on what to do.<<<<
>>>>>
> In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
> Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules for joining in the future.
> The list address is:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet messages in this email format.
>
> 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
> 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the system is broken.
> 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact list on a<rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about a potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
> 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
>
> I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and that's no good.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Manager
> The Rovernet
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now
> http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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>
>
>
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From kkinard at att.net Sat Apr 3 19:55:05 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:55:05 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
PLEASE READ
In-Reply-To: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BB7D559.6020409@att.net>
Eric Russell wrote:
Hi Eric et al,
I seem to be getting everything OK. How do I tell if I'm not getting it?
Just keep me on whatever list works and let me know what I need to do.
This is a holiday weekend and many members may not see this post until
Monday.
roverly,
Kent K.
> As Aidrian notes:
>
>> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
>> than is getting through at the moment
>>
>> Aidrian
>>
>>
> ***********************************
> The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the "engine room" of the<Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web host we are currently using.
>
> The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have knowledge or control access over anything on the list other than the web interface produced for List Managers.
>
> I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
>
> Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are being blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some members.
>
> I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About 6 people replied. To me, this means:
> 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who responded to my request.
> 3. Only 6 people care
>
> I have reached the end of what I can do.
>
>
>>>>> I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on what to do.<<<<
>>>>>
> In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
> Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules for joining in the future.
> The list address is:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet messages in this email format.
>
> 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
> 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the system is broken.
> 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact list on a<rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about a potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the Yahoo Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
> 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
>
> I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and that's no good.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Manager
> The Rovernet
>
>
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From gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net Sat Apr 3 20:14:39 2010
From: gwarrensmith at zoominternet.net (G. Warren Smith)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 20:14:39 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
In-Reply-To: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet .ca>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net>
I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
think I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in
the confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA)
equivalent or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
Thanks!
Warren
G. Warren Smith
101 Ayyar Court
Slippery Rock, PA 16057
From dirk at vy-tek.com Sat Apr 3 20:24:49 2010
From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:24:49 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.176.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <84D1068DA4C449A6962B359FB1C5AAAE@DirkPC2>
Hello Everyone,
I know I have received an awful lot of trouble shooting mails from the
Rovernet so I am not having problems. I suspect the troubles are on the
receiving end not on the sending end. Local services are always upgrading
spam software so this is likely it. I would suggest that the people who are
not getting mail take this up with their service provider and see what they
have to say.
I for one have been very happy with how things have been working and in all
likelihood if we change to something else it will come with it's own issues
so we would be no better off.
Ok, I am ready for so Rover discussions now, we could talk about Rostyles
wheels and Magnum 500s or something like that.... I think Glen has a stash
of 3 or 4 set NOS sets he will give away.
My 2 cents
Dirk
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4. Re: Hello (Eric Russell)
5. Re: Hello (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
6. Re: Hello (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
7. Rovernet woes - possible remedy - PLEASE READ (Eric Russell)
8. Re: Rovernet woes - possible remedy - PLEASE READ (Magnet)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:51:08 +0000
From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
Message-ID: <BAY119-W7977A87E830B2939353DBDE1B0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the Prince of
Darkness........no news for weeks
Cheers
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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:14:54 -0400
From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
Message-ID: <4BB7778E.30907 at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Eric Russell wrote:
> Glen et al,
> I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this Mailman thing.
> Ref: The Peter Principle
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
>
> Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by Yahoo Groups?
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> What do you think?
>
> Eric
> List Admin
>
Eric, from what I can tell from my research, the Mailman software is not
difficult in terms of routine administration but becomes a very geeky
command-line proposition when one needs to troubleshoot it. So, don't feel
bad if you decide it is more trouble than it is worth, if it's going to be
problems. Your version of Mailman is only one minor revision behind the
absolute newest. At this point, there may be easier ways to accomplish the
same result, and nobody wants you tearing your hair out if there's no need.
I know Google Groups can perfectly simulate the current list operation as
well as supply a web interface. You know more about Yahoo.
One thing I'm not clear on is how widespread the problems are. I know you
want the list to work for everyone, but is it just a few people like me who
could do work-arounds?
Whatever you choose to do will have my support.
Glen
how many people are actually experiencing trouble?
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: slatskars at comcast.net
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
Message-ID:
<108753239.1679641270317186666.JavaMail.root at sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comc
ast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Eric,
I also follow the MGB group, on MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com and it seems to work
flawlessly.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 8:00:58 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
Glen et al,
I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this Mailman thing.
Ref: The Peter Principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by Yahoo Groups?
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
What do you think?
Eric
List Admin
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not
dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test 1111
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 7:28 AM
> Glen Wilson wrote:
> > Send and receive capability confirmed, but I think a
> couple of my test messages disappeared. Let's assume that
> all is well.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go
> to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> >
> Bad news: The last four messages in the archives did not
> come out to me.
>
> When I view a Rovernet message, reply to is rovernet at rovernet.ca
> and that works fine.
>
> So, I seem to be able to send reliably, but do not see
> every message. I have the spam filters completely disabled,
> and web interface messages match what's in my email
> program.
>
> Glen
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
Message-ID: <946400.66071.qm at web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Bill,
There does seem to be problems which are beyond my control.
We are considering moving to the alternate Yahoo Groups list. Would you like
to be included?
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
>
> Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the
> Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Robertson
> ???
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:37:10 -0700
From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <smokeandsteam at gmail.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
Message-ID:
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A Lucas built Intenet...hmmm...that might explain intermittent
failures better than anything else that has been proposed so far
More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter than is
getting through at the moment
Aidrian
On 4/3/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bill,
> There does seem to be problems which are beyond my control.
> We are considering moving to the alternate Yahoo Groups list. Would you
like
> to be included?
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
>>
>> Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the
>> Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bill Robertson
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:39:27 +0200
From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
Message-ID: <A7FB6AC03BAF4C20A72348F5E0BF2EA0 at rw>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
I?ve got and I?m still getting all Rovernet mails without continuously
problems.
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
>
> Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the
> Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Robertson
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:26:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
PLEASE READ
Message-ID: <724248.17733.qm at web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
As Aidrian notes:
>
> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
> than is getting through at the moment
>
> Aidrian
>
***********************************
The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the
"engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web
host we are currently using.
The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has
become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have knowledge
or control access over anything on the list other than the web interface
produced for List Managers.
I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the Rovernet
messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are being blocked
or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some members.
I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About 6
people replied. To me, this means:
1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who responded
to my request.
3. Only 6 people care
I have reached the end of what I can do.
>>>>I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on
what to do. <<<<
In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be
included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work
properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I
deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules
for joining in the future.
The list address is:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet
messages in this email format.
1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us
now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the Yahoo
Groups alternative, tell us now.
3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the
Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the
system is broken.
5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by
name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact
list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about a
potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the Yahoo
Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through
the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the
Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to
be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and
that's no good.
Eric Russell
List Manager
The Rovernet
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:53:31 -0400
From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes - possible
remedy - PLEASE READ
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP682174CFAE851C83DE1C6B911B0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi Eric,
Seems to be working OK now. It was very quiet for a couple of days, and
a message I posted never showed up, but as I say, it seems to be OK now,
your conversation with Glen and all the various test messages arrived.
Cheers,
-- Bill D.
===========================================
Eric Russell wrote:
> As Aidrian notes:
>
>> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
>> than is getting through at the moment
>>
>> Aidrian
>>
>>
> ***********************************
> The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was installed in the
"engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an "engineer" from the web
host we are currently using.
>
> The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman software and has
become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own. I don't have knowledge
or control access over anything on the list other than the web interface
produced for List Managers.
>
> I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
>
> Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It *seems* if the
Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and are being
blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some members.
>
> I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting Rovernet email. About
6 people replied. To me, this means:
> 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people than who
responded to my request.
> 3. Only 6 people care
>
> I have reached the end of what I can do.
>
>
>>>>> I am proposing a discussion among interested Rovernet subscribers on
what to do. <<<<
>>>>>
>
> In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they would like to be
included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list fails to work
properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for that list.
> Some people were able to join that list and send adverts and Spam email. I
deleted their messages and email addresses and I should tighten the rules
for joining in the future.
> The list address is:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue receiving Rovernet
messages in this email format.
>
> 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email messages, tell us
now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
> 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be switched to the
Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be switched to the
Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I will believe the
system is broken.
> 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership list, name by
name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it into a contact
list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and send a message about a
potential change. I can cross-check this against the contacts in the Yahoo
Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish to be involved.
> 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be engaged through
the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman version of the
Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups version.
>
> I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the current situation to
be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the part of others and
that's no good.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Manager
> The Rovernet
>
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 20:47:35 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:47:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet sending and receiving
In-Reply-To: <84D1068DA4C449A6962B359FB1C5AAAE@DirkPC2>
Message-ID: <667747.2678.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Dirk,
Glad to hear from you on this troublesome topic. I received a similar positive note from another digest user so that's good.
I am concerned about how the Rovernet is being perceived by professional SPAM blocking systems. The only way I can tell is to take soundings from rovernet users. Unfortunately, the replies are few compared to the total registered and that creates uncertainty about the system.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Dirk Burrowes <dirk at vy-tek.com> wrote:
> From: Dirk Burrowes <dirk at vy-tek.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 1
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 5:24 PM
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I know I have received an awful lot of trouble shooting
> mails from the
> Rovernet so I am not having problems. I suspect the
> troubles are on the
> receiving end not on the sending end. Local services are
> always upgrading
> spam software so this is likely it. I would suggest that
> the people who are
> not getting mail take this up with their service provider
> and see what they
> have to say.
>
> I for one have been very happy with how things have been
> working and in all
> likelihood if we change to something else it will come with
> it's own issues
> so we would be no better off.
>
> Ok, I am ready for so Rover discussions now, we could talk
> about Rostyles
> wheels and Magnum 500s or something like that.... I think
> Glen has a stash
> of 3 or 4 set NOS sets he will give away.
>
> My 2 cents
> Dirk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of rovernet-request at rovernet.ca
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:53 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 1
>
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> ???1. Hello (Bill Robertson)
> ???2. Re: Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666 (Glen
> Wilson)
> ???3. Re: Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666 (slatskars at comcast.net)
> ???4. Re: Hello (Eric Russell)
> ???5. Re: Hello (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
> ???6. Re: Hello (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
> ???7. Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
> PLEASE??? READ (Eric Russell)
> ???8. Re: Rovernet woes - possible remedy -
> PLEASE??? READ (Magnet)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:51:08 +0000
> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> Message-ID: <BAY119-W7977A87E830B2939353DBDE1B0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by the
> Prince of
> Darkness........no news for weeks
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Robertson
> ???
> ????????
> ?????? ???
> ?
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:14:54 -0400
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> ??? <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now:
> Test 666
> Message-ID: <4BB7778E.30907 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
>
> Eric Russell wrote:
> > Glen et al,
> > I think I have reached my level of incompetance on
> this Mailman thing.
> > Ref: The Peter Principle
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
> >
> > Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by
> Yahoo Groups?
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Eric
> > List Admin
> >???
>
> Eric, from what I can tell from my research, the Mailman
> software is not
> difficult in terms of routine administration but becomes a
> very geeky
> command-line proposition when one needs to troubleshoot it.
> So, don't feel
> bad if you decide it is more trouble than it is worth, if
> it's going to be
> problems. Your version of Mailman is only one minor
> revision behind the
> absolute newest. At this point, there may be easier ways to
> accomplish the
> same result, and nobody wants you tearing your hair out if
> there's no need.
>
> I know Google Groups can perfectly simulate the current
> list operation as
> well as supply a web interface. You know more about Yahoo.
>
> One thing I'm not clear on is how widespread the problems
> are. I know you
> want the list to work for everyone, but is it just a few
> people like me who
> could do work-arounds?
>
> Whatever you choose to do will have my support.
>
> Glen
>
> how many people are actually experiencing trouble?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC)
> From: slatskars at comcast.net
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> ??? <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now:
> Test 666
> Message-ID:
> ???
> <108753239.1679641270317186666.JavaMail.root at sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comc
> ast.net>
> ???
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
> Eric,
>
>
>
> I also follow the MGB group, on MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com
> and it seems to work
> flawlessly.
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 8:00:58 AM GMT -08:00
> US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now:
> Test 666
>
> Glen et al,
> I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this
> Mailman thing.
> Ref: The Peter Principle
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
>
> Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by
> Yahoo Groups?
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> What do you think?
>
> Eric
> List Admin
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian,
> 1979; "I'm not
> dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test 1111
> > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>
> > Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 7:28 AM
> > Glen Wilson wrote:
> > > Send and receive capability confirmed, but I
> think a
> > couple of my test messages disappeared. Let's assume
> that
> > all is well.
> > >
> > > Glen
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe to the list or change your
> settings go
> > to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
> > >
> > Bad news: The last four messages in the archives did
> not
> > come out to me.
> >
> > When I view a Rovernet message, reply to is rovernet at rovernet.ca
>
> > and that works fine.
> >
> > So, I seem to be able to send reliably, but do not see
>
> > every message. I have the spam filters completely
> disabled,
> > and web interface messages match what's in my email
> > program.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go
> to
> > this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
> >
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> ??? <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> Message-ID: <946400.66071.qm at web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Bill,
> There does seem to be problems which are beyond my
> control.
> We are considering moving to the alternate Yahoo Groups
> list. Would you like
> to be included?
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian,
> 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail,
> 1975
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
> >
> > Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by
> the
> > Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bill Robertson
> >? ???
> > ????????
> > ?????? ???
> > ?
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:37:10 -0700
> From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <smokeandsteam at gmail.com>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> ??? <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> Message-ID:
> ??? <o2x204ec4391004031137u867dfbd3u9a09712bc3604760 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> A Lucas built Intenet...hmmm...that might explain
> intermittent
> failures better than anything else that has been proposed
> so far
>
> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam filter
> than is
> getting through at the moment
>
> Aidrian
>
> On 4/3/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Bill,
> > There does seem to be problems which are beyond my
> control.
> > We are considering moving to the alternate Yahoo
> Groups list. Would you
> like
> > to be included?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of
> Brian, 1979;
> > "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy
> Grail, 1975
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> >> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
> >>
> >> Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit
> by the
> >> Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Bill Robertson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >? ?
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:39:27 +0200
> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> ??? <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> Message-ID: <A7FB6AC03BAF4C20A72348F5E0BF2EA0 at rw>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
> charset="iso-8859-1";
> ??? reply-type=original
>
>
> I?ve got and I?m still getting all Rovernet mails without
> continuously
> problems.
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Hello
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Received: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:51 AM
> >
> > Did i fall off the map or did the Rovernet get hit by
> the
> > Prince of Darkness........no news for weeks
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bill Robertson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:26:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> ??? <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes -
> possible remedy -
> ??? PLEASE??? READ
> Message-ID: <724248.17733.qm at web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> As Aidrian notes:
> >
> > More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam
> filter
> > than is getting through at the moment
> >
> > Aidrian
> >
> ***********************************
> The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was
> installed in the
> "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an
> "engineer" from the web
> host we are currently using.
>
> The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman
> software and has
> become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own.?
> I don't have knowledge
> or control access over anything on the list other than the
> web interface
> produced for List Managers.
>
> I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to press.
>
> Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It
> *seems* if the Rovernet
> messages are being caught in one or more SPAM filters and
> are being blocked
> or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of some
> members.
>
> I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting
> Rovernet email. About 6
> people replied. To me, this means:
> 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more people
> than who responded
> to my request.
> 3. Only 6 people care
>
> I have reached the end of what I can do.
>
> >>>>I am proposing a discussion among
> interested Rovernet subscribers on
> what to do. <<<<
>
> In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they
> would like to be
> included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list
> fails to work
> properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for
> that list.
> Some people were able to join that list and send adverts
> and Spam email. I
> deleted their messages and email addresses and I should
> tighten the rules
> for joining in the future.
> The list address is:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue
> receiving Rovernet
> messages in this email format.
>
> 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet email
> messages, tell us
> now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
> 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be
> switched to the Yahoo
> Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to be
> switched to the
> Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> 4. If most of the members do not respond to this email, I
> will believe the
> system is broken.
> 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the membership
> list, name by
> name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it
> into a contact
> list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and
> send a message about a
> potential change. I can cross-check this against the
> contacts in the Yahoo
> Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish
> to be involved.
> 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to be
> engaged through
> the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman
> version of the
> Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups
> version.
>
> I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the
> current situation to
> be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the
> part of others and
> that's no good.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Manager
> The Rovernet
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:53:31 -0400
> From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> ??? <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes -
> possible
> ??? remedy - PLEASE??? READ
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP682174CFAE851C83DE1C6B911B0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Seems to be working OK now.? It was very quiet for a
> couple of days, and
> a message I posted never showed up, but as I say, it seems
> to be OK now,
> your conversation with Glen and all the various test
> messages arrived.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Bill D.
>
> ===========================================
>
>
> Eric Russell wrote:
> > As Aidrian notes:
> >???
> >> More Rovernet stuff is getting caught in the Spam
> filter
> >> than is getting through at the moment
> >>
> >> Aidrian
> >>
> >>? ???
> > ***********************************
> > The Rovernet is using free Mailman software which was
> installed in the
> "engine room" of the <Rovernet.ca> web site by an
> "engineer" from the web
> host we are currently using.
> >
> > The "engineer" really is not familiar with the Mailman
> software and has
> become unavailable for consultation. I am on my own.?
> I don't have knowledge
> or control access over anything on the list other than the
> web interface
> produced for List Managers.
> >
> > I have pressed as many buttons as I know how to
> press.
> >
> > Some Rovernet subscribers are reporting problems. It
> *seems* if the
> Rovernet messages are being caught in one or more SPAM
> filters and are being
> blocked or discarded by the Internet Service Providers of
> some members.
> >
> > I asked subscribers to tell me if they were getting
> Rovernet email. About
> 6 people replied. To me, this means:
> > 1. My message got lost in the flurry of test emails
> > 2. The Rovernet emails are not getting out to more
> people than who
> responded to my request.
> > 3. Only 6 people care
> >
> > I have reached the end of what I can do.
> >
> >???
> >>>>> I am proposing a discussion among
> interested Rovernet subscribers on
> what to do. <<<<
> >>>>>? ? ? ?
> ???
> >
> > In earlier postings, I asked people to tell me if they
> would like to be
> included an an alternative Mailing List if the main list
> fails to work
> properly. I do have a list of names in the "Contacts" for
> that list.
> > Some people were able to join that list and send
> adverts and Spam email. I
> deleted their messages and email addresses and I should
> tighten the rules
> for joining in the future.
> > The list address is:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> >
> > You will need to be pro-active if you want to continue
> receiving Rovernet
> messages in this email format.
> >
> > 1. If you can read this message and other Rovernet
> email messages, tell us
> now. (In other words - what is the degree of our problem?)
> > 2. If you can read this message and are willing to be
> switched to the
> Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> > 3. If you can read this message and are NOT willing to
> be switched to the
> Yahoo Groups alternative, tell us now.
> > 4. If most of the members do not respond to this
> email, I will believe the
> system is broken.
> > 5. If the system is broken, I can go through the
> membership list, name by
> name (240 people or so), copy an email address and copy it
> into a contact
> list on a <rovernet_bulletin> Yahoo email account and
> send a message about a
> potential change. I can cross-check this against the
> contacts in the Yahoo
> Groups Rover_net list and eliminate people who don't wish
> to be involved.
> > 6. Once we have engaged contact with those who wish to
> be engaged through
> the Rovernet mailing list, I can turn off the Mailman
> version of the
> Rovernet and we will continue with the Yahoo Groups
> version.
> >
> > I invite discussion on these topics. I have found the
> current situation to
> be very frustrating and I am sensing frustration on the
> part of others and
> that's no good.
> >
> > Eric Russell
> > List Manager
> > The Rovernet
> >
> >
> >? ?
> ???__________________________________________________________________
> > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the
> web, and bookmark your
> favourite sites. Download it now
> > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
> >
> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go
> to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> >
> >
> >???
>
>
>
>
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Sun Apr 4 03:57:15 2010
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 03:57:15 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet.
Message-ID: <SNT105-W232A0255D794E59183125F8E1A0@phx.gbl>
I have not been recieving rovernet digests either. I suspect that the issue is with hotmail, rather than rovernet itself. We had a problem at my local flying club with bulk emails from the club to members not getting to hotmail accounts. I have not had a chance to check my settings or take it up with hotmail, as I am busy at NatRove 2010 in Adelaide. I will post some photos when I get back on a flickr or photo bucket account when I get back. If we did go down the path of the yahoo group, then photos could be posted there. This would be the one advantage of the Yahoo group.
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From kkinard at att.net Sun Apr 4 06:52:21 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 05:52:21 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
In-Reply-To: <D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
<D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <4BB86F65.7080708@att.net>
Hi Warren,
I will check Monday. I may have one.
Kent K.
G. Warren Smith wrote:
> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
> think I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in
> the confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA)
> equivalent or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Warren
>
> G. Warren Smith
> 101 Ayyar Court
> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>
>
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From magnet at roverclub.org Sun Apr 4 07:52:31 2010
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:52:31 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
In-Reply-To: <D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
<D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP73015683F8A8E59D5526DC911A0@phx.gbl>
I'd be interested in the collective wisdom on this as well. When the
sender on my P6B failed, I went through all the replacements on the
shelf at Canadian Tire and could not find anything that was a physical
match, let alone electrical. The Rover item has what is effectively a
bolt thread, while all the replacements had either a 1/8 or 1/4 inch
pipe thread. In the end, I used some sort of adapter to mate the
threads. Electrically, putting about 68 ohms in series with the sender
gave the correct readings, but your mileage may vary, as they say,
depending on the particular sender you use.
I seem to recall having the same problem with my '73 Series III Land
Rover. It would be interesting to see if the LR uses the same sender as
the P6B.
Cheers,
-- Bill Daddis
==============================================
G. Warren Smith wrote:
> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
> think I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in
> the confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA)
> equivalent or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Warren
>
> G. Warren Smith
> 101 Ayyar Court
> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
From gwlucas at granite.mb.ca Sun Apr 4 10:50:33 2010
From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca (Glen Lucas)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:50:33 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <4BB86F65.7080708@att.net>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net>
<4BB86F65.7080708@att.net>
Message-ID: <B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop>
Hello,
At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a question
related to keeping the cars alive.
The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder portion
of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the Austin
Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this as
well.
Regards,
Glen Lucas
P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
> Hi Warren,
> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>
> Kent K.
>
> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I think
>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) equivalent
>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Warren
>>
>> G. Warren Smith
>> 101 Ayyar Court
>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>
>
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> sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Sun Apr 4 11:17:14 2010
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:17:14 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net>
<B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop>
Message-ID: <D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
Hi Glen,
I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the lines
but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
#110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
Ben Saunders
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Glen Lucas
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
Hello,
At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a question
related to keeping the cars alive.
The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder portion
of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the Austin
Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this as
well.
Regards,
Glen Lucas
P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
> Hi Warren,
> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>
> Kent K.
>
> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I think
>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) equivalent
>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Warren
>>
>> G. Warren Smith
>> 101 Ayyar Court
>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure
to scroll down the whole page.
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Apr 4 11:42:49 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Intermittant problems - suggestion
Message-ID: <159936.78407.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi, again,
We seem to be having intermittant problems with the Mailman version of the Rovernet.
Some service providers are letting messages through and some are not. The anti-SPAM rules may have been tightened and some people are being left out.
I am suggesting that you also join our back-up list here:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
If you post to the Mailman version of Rovernet:
<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
please also send a copy to the back-up list.
CC: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
We need to decide what works most consistently for most people.
Eric
List Admin
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From gwlucas at granite.mb.ca Sun Apr 4 12:19:46 2010
From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca (Glen Lucas)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:19:46 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net><B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop>
<D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
Message-ID: <485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop>
Thanks Ben,
Moss Motors show a Lockheed replacement for the Girling system used in the
Healey 3000. I am pretty sure they are compatible. However, Moss charges
$400 and when we add freight and brokerage the cost gets a bit high. JRW
will rebuild the Girling for about the same price. Again, plus shipping
etc.
The piece is very simple and I suspect anyone who has worked with leather
will be able to make one. The key is to build a press to form the leather
into a cup. Very much the same process as making shoes. The original from
my car is in one piece and has just gotten soft from contact with brake
fluid. If I cannot find someone else to supply, I think I will try to make
one before putting down that kind of money. Necessity is the mother of
invention, after all.
Regards,
Glen Lucas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
> Hi Glen,
> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the lines
> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>
> Ben Saunders
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
> Hello,
>
> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a question
> related to keeping the cars alive.
>
> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder
> portion
>
> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the Austin
> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this as
> well.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen Lucas
>
> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>
>
>> Hi Warren,
>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>
>> Kent K.
>>
>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
>>> think
>
>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) equivalent
>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>> G. Warren Smith
>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
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> sure
> to scroll down the whole page.
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Sun Apr 4 12:24:32 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:24:32 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net> <B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop>
<D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
Message-ID: <4BB8BD40.8020002@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Glen,
Either a replacement servo as Ben suggests, or a rebuild of the Girling
MkII cylinder is viable, but there are multiple assist ratios available
in new servos.
What is wrong with the leather seal on your servo? Typically the
leather seal in the vacuum drum does not need replacement. Servo
rebuild kits come with a length of extruded foam rubber rod that gets
packed behind the existing leather seal to renew the ability of the seal
to press against vacuum drum. A related issue is that Girling rebuild
kits often came with a foam rod that was too large in diameter or not
soft enough, such that the seal was too tight against the drum and the
vacuum piston would stick in the cylinder.
If the leather seal in your servo is in fact damaged, then it should be
possible to find a good used piston and seal to use in a rebuild -- I
may have spare. If you are going the rebuild route, then you may also
need to have the hydraulic cylinder bore sleeved in brass or stainless.
--Steve Manwell
Ben Saunders wrote:
> Hi Glen,
> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the lines
> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>
> Ben Saunders
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
> Hello,
>
> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a question
> related to keeping the cars alive.
>
> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder portion
>
> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the Austin
> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this as
> well.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen Lucas
>
> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>
>
>
>> Hi Warren,
>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>
>> Kent K.
>>
>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I think
>>>
>
>
>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) equivalent
>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>> G. Warren Smith
>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>
>>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure
> to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
>
>
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>
>
From rovercar at comcast.net Sun Apr 4 12:27:43 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:27:43 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Support for Eric's Efforts
In-Reply-To: <159936.78407.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <159936.78407.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BB8BDFF.6030202@comcast.net>
There seems to be a misunderstanding on the part of some that all of the
test messages and discussion of Rovernet problems, are meant to be
critical of Eric's management of the list. Nothing could be farther from
the truth. Firstly, those of us who have been engaged in this discussion
have been attempting to assist Eric in troubleshooting what he describes
as "intermittant problems with the Mailman version of the Rovernet."
Secondly, if you are receiving (or think you are receiving) all of the
Rovernet postings, have some concern for the so far undetermined number
of Rovernet members who are not. Thirdly, if you receive your Rovernet
messages in Digest format, don't participate in ongoing discussions on a
daily basis, and receive only one message per week and skim through
what's in it, you are not in a position to judge the scope or root of
the problem.
If you receive individual email messages from Rovernet, the only way you
can possibly know if you are receiving ALL of the messages is to check
the Rovernet archives at this address
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or
http://www.roverclub.ca/rovernet.htm and compare the messages there
with those you received from Rovernet in your email inbox. You may see
that you have received every message, and you may find some never made
it to your inbox.
If you want to help Eric, check to see if you are missing messages and
send him a direct email ONLY if you are having a problem. This will let
him know if there are a lot of people with problems or just a few. Eric
is busy, so don't be offended if you do not receive a response to your
email. Eric's address is p6rovers AT yahoo.com and you need to put the @
in the appropriate place.
We all appreciate Eric's efforts in keeping Rovernet working very
reliably for all of these years and making the RCCC's forum a real
anchor point for those of us who love Rover automobiles. A couple of
weeks ago, a poll was taken and the vast majority of us voiced our
support for keeping the Rovernet just as it is. We like the way we
currently communicate via Rovernet. The only discussion about making
changes to the Rovernet has to do with Eric's investigation of whether
to continue using the present Mailman software (which can be complicated
and arcane) or to change to another solution. The main consideration is
reliability, and we are not even sure if the present intermittent
problems are due to the Mailman software or to some internet service
providers blacklisting some subset of services into which our Rovernet
has been caught like a fish in an overly broad net.
Eric has also asked for your assistance in the message quoted below. If
you make the effort to do as he asks and join or update your membership
in the Yahoo group, it will DRAMATICALLY reduce the amount of work Eric
has to do if changes are made to the list software or if the present
system goes from intermittent glitches to full-on failure. I have been
enrolled in the Rovernet Yahoo group for some time and have not
received any spam as a result, so don't let that concern you.
Thank you, Eric.
Glen
Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi, again,
> We seem to be having intermittant problems with the Mailman version of the Rovernet.
>
> Some service providers are letting messages through and some are not. The anti-SPAM rules may have been tightened and some people are being left out.
>
> I am suggesting that you also join our back-up list here:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> If you post to the Mailman version of Rovernet:
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>
> please also send a copy to the back-up list.
> CC: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>
> We need to decide what works most consistently for most people.
> Eric
> List Admin
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
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From eruditefluffwad at yahoo.com Sun Apr 4 12:30:53 2010
From: eruditefluffwad at yahoo.com (Erudite Fluffwad)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] No testing required
In-Reply-To: <mailman.185.1270340677.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <262003.46234.qm@web113106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
FYI to all who are having trouble (assuming you even receive this!):
Rovernet digests- all of them- are coming in loud and clear through my Yahoo email. I check my emails individually- no outlook or other mail fetching programs (too paranoid)- so perhaps that is one culprit?
Gotta love the irony though. The one email server that no one wants to go near is the one that is actually getting through!
Either way, if we move, please take me with.
Laine
Sir Bedevere: What makes you think
she's a witch?
Peasant 3: Well, she turned me into a newt!
Sir
Bedevere: A newt?
Peasant 3: [meekly after a long pause] ... I
got better.
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From jaguru at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 4 12:32:51 2010
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:32:51 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net><B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop><D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
<485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop>
Message-ID: <83C224B52BC34D689300AF0CB0A9AD5A@JamesDeanPC1>
I believe that brake servo is made in Australia; at least the (slightly
different) one for Jaguar MKII is, which is sold by XK's Unlimited and Welsh
Jaguar. (Probably around $350) That one should work; though there are 2
boost pressures available; inquire. The lower pressure is probably used on
Jaguar MKI, MKII, XK150; The higher pressure may be on 3.8S; not sure ask
the seller. The Australian members may know where to get it cheaper, since
it is made there. It is a pretty versatile booster. I have used it on XK120,
when converting to disc brakes, and located it in the right front fender.
You could mount it any place. James Dean, Ft. Lauderdale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Lucas" <gwlucas at granite.mb.ca>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> Thanks Ben,
>
> Moss Motors show a Lockheed replacement for the Girling system used in the
> Healey 3000. I am pretty sure they are compatible. However, Moss charges
> $400 and when we add freight and brokerage the cost gets a bit high. JRW
> will rebuild the Girling for about the same price. Again, plus shipping
> etc.
>
> The piece is very simple and I suspect anyone who has worked with leather
> will be able to make one. The key is to build a press to form the leather
> into a cup. Very much the same process as making shoes. The original
> from my car is in one piece and has just gotten soft from contact with
> brake fluid. If I cannot find someone else to supply, I think I will try
> to make one before putting down that kind of money. Necessity is the
> mother of invention, after all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen Lucas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
>
>> Hi Glen,
>> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
>> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the lines
>> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
>> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
>> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
>> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>>
>> Ben Saunders
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a
>> question
>> related to keeping the cars alive.
>>
>> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder
>> portion
>>
>> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
>> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the
>> Austin
>> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this
>> as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Glen Lucas
>>
>> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>>
>>
>>> Hi Warren,
>>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>>
>>> Kent K.
>>>
>>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
>>>> think
>>
>>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) equivalent
>>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Warren
>>>>
>>>> G. Warren Smith
>>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure
>> to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
From rovercar at comcast.net Sun Apr 4 12:35:46 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:35:46 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net><B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop> <D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
<485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop>
Message-ID: <4BB8BFE2.4060903@comcast.net>
When I rebuilt my P4 servo (MKII style), I ran across something stating
that the leather was originally worked with Castor oil. I think it was
stated in the rebuild kit. I went to my local pharmacy, bought a small
bottle of Castor oil and worked it into the leather. A substantial
amount of crud was released from the leather, and it softened up quite a
bit. The bits that still remained stiff were in a place that never came
in contact with the metal. When I reassembled the servo it worked just
fine whereas it had been completely non-functional before.
The kit I used was obtained from a company that restored Sunbeam Tigers.
Glen
Glen Lucas wrote:
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> Thanks Ben,
>
> Moss Motors show a Lockheed replacement for the Girling system used in
> the Healey 3000. I am pretty sure they are compatible. However, Moss
> charges $400 and when we add freight and brokerage the cost gets a bit
> high. JRW will rebuild the Girling for about the same price. Again,
> plus shipping etc.
>
> The piece is very simple and I suspect anyone who has worked with
> leather will be able to make one. The key is to build a press to form
> the leather into a cup. Very much the same process as making shoes.
> The original from my car is in one piece and has just gotten soft from
> contact with brake fluid. If I cannot find someone else to supply, I
> think I will try to make one before putting down that kind of money.
> Necessity is the mother of invention, after all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen Lucas
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
>
>> Hi Glen,
>> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
>> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the
>> lines
>> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
>> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
>> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
>> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>>
>> Ben Saunders
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
>> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a
>> question
>> related to keeping the cars alive.
>>
>> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder
>> portion
>>
>> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
>> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the
>> Austin
>> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used
>> this as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Glen Lucas
>>
>> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>>
>>
>>> Hi Warren,
>>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>>
>>> Kent K.
>>>
>>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
>>>> think
>>
>>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA)
>>>> equivalent
>>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Warren
>>>>
>>>> G. Warren Smith
>>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page.
>> Be sure
>> to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page.
>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
From jaguru at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 4 12:38:10 2010
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:38:10 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] New Question, Need Sundym rear vent glass
In-Reply-To: <D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net><B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop>
<D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
Message-ID: <D342663F6E4645C2A58A5E6E8879F9C6@JamesDeanPC1>
I need some Sundym non-opening rear vent glass; that is with no holes, as
used on 3500S or late 2000, 2 pieces.. In either US or England is fine..
Does anyone have some? Contact me directly jaguru at bellsouth.net , or phone
1954JAGUARS or toll free 1 877 524 8787..Thank you, James Dean, Ft.
Lauderdale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
> Hi Glen,
> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the lines
> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>
> Ben Saunders
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
> Hello,
>
> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a question
> related to keeping the cars alive.
>
> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder
> portion
>
> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the Austin
> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this as
> well.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen Lucas
>
> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>
>
>> Hi Warren,
>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>
>> Kent K.
>>
>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
>>> think
>
>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) equivalent
>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>> G. Warren Smith
>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure
> to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
From rovercar at comcast.net Sun Apr 4 12:41:59 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:41:59 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Support for Eric's Efforts
Message-ID: <4BB8C157.4070307@comcast.net>
There seems to be a misunderstanding on the part of some that all of the
test messages and discussion of Rovernet problems, are meant to be
critical of Eric's management of the list. Nothing could be farther from
the truth. Firstly, those of us who have been engaged in this discussion
have been attempting to assist Eric in troubleshooting what he describes
as "intermittant problems with the Mailman version of the Rovernet."
Secondly, if you are receiving (or think you are receiving) all of the
Rovernet postings, have some concern for the so far undetermined number
of Rovernet members who are not. Thirdly, if you receive your Rovernet
messages in Digest format, don't participate in ongoing discussions on a
daily basis, and receive only one message per week and skim through
what's in it, you are not in a position to judge the scope or root of
the problem.
If you receive individual email messages from Rovernet, the only way you
can possibly know if you are receiving ALL of the messages is to check
the Rovernet archives at this address
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
<http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca> or
http://www.roverclub.ca/rovernet.htm
<http://www.roverclub.ca/rovernet.htm> and compare the messages there
with those you received from Rovernet in your email inbox. You may see
that you have received every message, and you may find some never made
it to your inbox.
If you want to help Eric, check to see if you are missing messages and
send him a direct email ONLY if you are having a problem. This will let
him know if there are a lot of people with problems or just a few. Eric
is busy, so don't be offended if you do not receive a response to your
email. Eric's address is p6rovers AT yahoo.com and you need to put the @
in the appropriate place.
We all appreciate Eric's efforts in keeping Rovernet working very
reliably for all of these years and making the RCCC's forum a real
anchor point for those of us who love Rover automobiles. A couple of
weeks ago, a poll was taken and the vast majority of us voiced our
support for keeping the Rovernet just as it is. We like the way we
currently communicate via Rovernet. The only discussion about making
changes to the Rovernet has to do with Eric's investigation of whether
to continue using the present Mailman software (which can be complicated
and arcane) or to change to another solution. The main consideration is
reliability, and we are not even sure if the present intermittent
problems are due to the Mailman software or to some internet service
providers blacklisting some subset of services into which our Rovernet
has been caught like a fish in an overly broad net.
Eric has also asked for your assistance in the message quoted below. If
you make the effort to do as he asks and join or update your membership
in the Yahoo group, it will DRAMATICALLY reduce the amount of work Eric
has to do if changes are made to the list software or if the present
system goes from intermittent glitches to full-on failure. I have been
enrolled in the Rovernet Yahoo group for some time and have not
received any spam as a result, so don't let that concern you.
Thank you, Eric.
Glen
Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi, again,
> We seem to be having intermittant problems with the Mailman version
of the Rovernet.
>
> Some service providers are letting messages through and some are not.
The anti-SPAM rules may have been tightened and some people are being
left out.
>
> I am suggesting that you also join our back-up list here:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/>
>
> If you post to the Mailman version of Rovernet:
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca <mailto:rovernet%40rovernet.ca>>
>
> please also send a copy to the back-up list.
> CC: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com <mailto:Rover_net%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> We need to decide what works most consistently for most people.
> Eric
> List Admin
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
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From quakertech at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 12:45:26 2010
From: quakertech at gmail.com (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:45:26 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Support for Eric's Efforts
Message-ID: <w2x13d9cc421004040945w46e150e2ncd0f7ddcc78f74d4@mail.gmail.com>
Support for Eric's Efforts
There seems to be a misunderstanding on the part of some that all of the
test messages and discussion of Rovernet problems, are meant to be
critical of Eric's management of the list. Nothing could be farther from
the truth. Firstly, those of us who have been engaged in this discussion
have been attempting to assist Eric in troubleshooting what he describes
as "intermittant problems with the Mailman version of the Rovernet."
Secondly, if you are receiving (or think you are receiving) all of the
Rovernet postings, have some concern for the so far undetermined number
of Rovernet members who are not. Thirdly, if you receive your Rovernet
messages in Digest format, don't participate in ongoing discussions on a
daily basis, and receive only one message per week and skim through
what's in it, you are not in a position to judge the scope or root of
the problem.
If you receive individual email messages from Rovernet, the only way you
can possibly know if you are receiving ALL of the messages is to check
the Rovernet archives at this address
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or
http://www.roverclub.ca/rovernet.htm and compare the messages there
with those you received from Rovernet in your email inbox. You may see
that you have received every message, and you may find some never made
it to your inbox.
If you want to help Eric, check to see if you are missing messages and
send him a direct email ONLY if you are having a problem. This will let
him know if there are a lot of people with problems or just a few. Eric
is busy, so don't be offended if you do not receive a response to your
email. Eric's address is p6rovers AT yahoo.com and you need to put the @
in the appropriate place.
We all appreciate Eric's efforts in keeping Rovernet working very
reliably for all of these years and making the RCCC's forum a real
anchor point for those of us who love Rover automobiles. A couple of
weeks ago, a poll was taken and the vast majority of us voiced our
support for keeping the Rovernet just as it is. We like the way we
currently communicate via Rovernet. The only discussion about making
changes to the Rovernet has to do with Eric's investigation of whether
to continue using the present Mailman software (which can be complicated
and arcane) or to change to another solution. The main consideration is
reliability, and we are not even sure if the present intermittent
problems are due to the Mailman software or to some internet service
providers blacklisting some subset of services into which our Rovernet
has been caught like a fish in an overly broad net.
Eric has also asked for your assistance in the message quoted below. If
you make the effort to do as he asks and join or update your membership
in the Yahoo group, it will DRAMATICALLY reduce the amount of work Eric
has to do if changes are made to the list software or if the present
system goes from intermittent glitches to full-on failure. I have been
enrolled in the Rovernet Yahoo group for some time and have not
received any spam as a result, so don't let that concern you.
Thank you, Eric.
Glen
Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi, again,
> We seem to be having intermittant problems with the Mailman version of the Rovernet.
>
> Some service providers are letting messages through and some are not. The anti-SPAM rules may have been tightened and some people are being left out.
>
> I am suggesting that you also join our back-up list here:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> If you post to the Mailman version of Rovernet:
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>
> please also send a copy to the back-up list.
> CC: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>
> We need to decide what works most consistently for most people.
> Eric
> List Admin
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Apr 4 12:47:21 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rover_net] Support for Eric's
Efforts
In-Reply-To: <4BB8BDFF.6030202@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <811508.83099.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks Glen,
Things have bumped along pretty well for years.
I have read about increased amounts of SPAM and I think internet service providers are rising to the challenge. Mailing lists are probably now suspect.
?
I am investigating moving the web host for all our Internet operations to another location with one view being to make our Internet details more credible to the anti-SPAM systems.
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As it happens, this message, a copy to the back-up list at Rover_net at yahoogroups.com has appeared first in my INBOX. The Mailman version has yet to appear at this time.? Thanks for double posting, Glen. There may be a problem with *me* receiving.
Eric
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"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sun, 4/4/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
Subject: [Rover_net] Support for Eric's Efforts
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>, Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 9:27 AM
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There seems to be a misunderstanding on the part of some that all of the
test messages and discussion of Rovernet problems, are meant to be
critical of Eric's management of the list. Nothing could be farther from
the truth. Firstly, those of us who have been engaged in this discussion
have been attempting to assist Eric in troubleshooting what he describes
as "intermittant problems with the Mailman version of the Rovernet."
Secondly, if you are receiving (or think you are receiving) all of the
Rovernet postings, have some concern for the so far undetermined number
of Rovernet members who are not. Thirdly, if you receive your Rovernet
messages in Digest format, don't participate in ongoing discussions on a
daily basis, and receive only one message per week and skim through
what's in it, you are not in a position to judge the scope or root of
the problem.
If you receive individual email messages from Rovernet, the only way you
can possibly know if you are receiving ALL of the messages is to check
the Rovernet archives at this address
http://rovernet. ca/mailman/ listinfo/ rovernet_ rovernet. ca or
http://www.roverclu b.ca/rovernet. htm and compare the messages there
with those you received from Rovernet in your email inbox. You may see
that you have received every message, and you may find some never made
it to your inbox.
If you want to help Eric, check to see if you are missing messages and
send him a direct email ONLY if you are having a problem. This will let
him know if there are a lot of people with problems or just a few. Eric
is busy, so don't be offended if you do not receive a response to your
email. Eric's address is p6rovers AT yahoo.com and you need to put the @
in the appropriate place.
We all appreciate Eric's efforts in keeping Rovernet working very
reliably for all of these years and making the RCCC's forum a real
anchor point for those of us who love Rover automobiles. A couple of
weeks ago, a poll was taken and the vast majority of us voiced our
support for keeping the Rovernet just as it is. We like the way we
currently communicate via Rovernet. The only discussion about making
changes to the Rovernet has to do with Eric's investigation of whether
to continue using the present Mailman software (which can be complicated
and arcane) or to change to another solution. The main consideration is
reliability, and we are not even sure if the present intermittent
problems are due to the Mailman software or to some internet service
providers blacklisting some subset of services into which our Rovernet
has been caught like a fish in an overly broad net.
Eric has also asked for your assistance in the message quoted below. If
you make the effort to do as he asks and join or update your membership
in the Yahoo group, it will DRAMATICALLY reduce the amount of work Eric
has to do if changes are made to the list software or if the present
system goes from intermittent glitches to full-on failure. I have been
enrolled in the Rovernet Yahoo group for some time and have not
received any spam as a result, so don't let that concern you.
Thank you, Eric.
Glen
Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi, again,
> We seem to be having intermittant problems with the Mailman version of the Rovernet.
>
> Some service providers are letting messages through and some are not. The anti-SPAM rules may have been tightened and some people are being left out.
>
> I am suggesting that you also join our back-up list here:
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>
> If you post to the Mailman version of Rovernet:
> <rovernet at rovernet. ca>
>
> please also send a copy to the back-up list.
> CC: Rover_net at yahoogrou ps.com
>
> We need to decide what works most consistently for most people.
> Eric
> List Admin
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From: pjemail at aol.com (pjemail at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:50:25 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
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With regard to the oil presure sender units, I have replacement units (which look different) available at ?35.00 plus postage. I can probably still get original ones at about ?100.00.
Regards,
Pierre Janusz
RPS (Rover Parts Services)
-----Original Message-----
From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:52
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
I'd be interested in the collective wisdom on this as well. When the sender on my P6B failed, I went through all the replacements on the shelf at Canadian Tire and could not find anything that was a physical match, let alone electrical. The Rover item has what is effectively a bolt thread, while all the replacements had either a 1/8 or 1/4 inch pipe thread. In the end, I used some sort of adapter to mate the threads. Electrically, putting about 68 ohms in series with the sender gave the correct readings, but your mileage may vary, as they say, depending on the particular sender you use.
I seem to recall having the same problem with my '73 Series III Land Rover. It would be interesting to see if the LR uses the same sender as the P6B.
Cheers,
-- Bill Daddis
==============================================
G. Warren Smith wrote:
> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I > think I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in > the confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) > equivalent or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Warren
>
> G. Warren Smith
> 101 Ayyar Court
> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be > sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Sun Apr 4 12:53:04 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:53:04 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop>
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Glen,
A North American rebuilder may be more cost effective vs. shipping both
ways to the UK. Also, if you are paying for a rebuild from whatever
source, make sure they are sleeving the bore unless the existing bore is
not corroded or scored. (The Girling servo actually has two separate
bores, but I imagine it is more critical to make sure the sealing
surface is smooth in the main bore vs. the small control bore.)
Here is one US rebuilder: http://www.applehydraulics.com/brakes.htm
(scroll down to the servo section about half way down, and look for the
photo of Girling MkII servo.) Incidently the late Jaguar XKE brake
servo is internally the same as the 3500S servo, so that's another Rover
resource from this rebuilder. I have experience dealing with Apple on
lever shock absorber rebuilds, but not brakes. They should be OK to
deal with -- ask for Lazar if you call.
The two Girling servos that I have rebuilt did not have damaged leather
seals even though they too had leaked plenty of brake fluid into the
vacuum drum, leading to the tell-tale white exhaust. Also, the leather
seal is meant to be thoroughly coated in grease to help with the seal
against the vacuum cylinder and lubricate between seal and cylinder. I
would expect the grease to preserve the leather against brake fluid
damage to some extent too.
--Steve
P.S. Looks like Rovernet is both sending and receiving my emails again
-- hurray!
Glen Lucas wrote:
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> Thanks Ben,
>
> Moss Motors show a Lockheed replacement for the Girling system used in
> the Healey 3000. I am pretty sure they are compatible. However, Moss
> charges $400 and when we add freight and brokerage the cost gets a bit
> high. JRW will rebuild the Girling for about the same price. Again,
> plus shipping etc.
>
> The piece is very simple and I suspect anyone who has worked with
> leather will be able to make one. The key is to build a press to form
> the leather into a cup. Very much the same process as making shoes.
> The original from my car is in one piece and has just gotten soft from
> contact with brake fluid. If I cannot find someone else to supply, I
> think I will try to make one before putting down that kind of money.
> Necessity is the mother of invention, after all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen Lucas
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
>
>> Hi Glen,
>> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
>> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the
>> lines
>> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
>> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
>> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
>> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>>
>> Ben Saunders
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
>> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
>> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a
>> question
>> related to keeping the cars alive.
>>
>> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder
>> portion
>>
>> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
>> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the
>> Austin
>> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used
>> this as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Glen Lucas
>>
>> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>>
>>
>>> Hi Warren,
>>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>>
>>> Kent K.
>>>
>>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
>>>> think
>>
>>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA)
>>>> equivalent
>>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Warren
>>>>
>>>> G. Warren Smith
>>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page.
>> Be sure
>> to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page.
>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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>
>
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From rovercar at comcast.net Sun Apr 4 12:55:29 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:55:29 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Support 2
Message-ID: <4BB8C481.7030309@comcast.net>
As if to prove my point, my last two posts (sent from two entirely
separate ISPs) showed up in the Archives but did not show up in my inbox
at either site.
Eric reports that my message to the Yahoo group appeared quickly while
the Mailman message had not appeared as of the time of his writing. My
symptoms were the same. So, we know that messages that show up in the
archives have not necessarily been sent out to everyone on the list.
God bless you, Eric.
From dmesmg at juno.com Sun Apr 4 15:03:09 2010
From: dmesmg at juno.com (dmesmg at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:03:09 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rover_net] Support for Eric's
Efforts
Message-ID: <20100404.150309.2348.0.dmesmg@juno.com>
Glen and Eric,
I definitely did not interpret this discussion as negative in any
way--appears to be a solid investigation into causes and options. I
would like to offer my sincere thanks to Eric especially for all he does
for the group on the technical front.
(I am only receiving yahoo notes at the moment --the influx of
'rovernet.ca' notes has been sporadic at best --off for a month at a
time).
Best regards,
Dan Suter
Rochester,NY,USA
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From kkinard at att.net Sun Apr 4 17:46:55 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:46:55 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <4BB8BD40.8020002@alum.swarthmore.edu>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net> <B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop> <D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
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Glen,
I will echo Steve's comments. I have had my Girling booster on my P4 100
apart four times so far and it still sticks. I have several Lockheed
type boosters and think I will rebuild and install one in the P4 rather
than fool with the Girling booster again. I had one leather seal that
simply parted at the joint. It seems the leather is simply glued
togather to make the band. The booster itself is not hard to rebuild but
the rubber spacer that goes behind the seal is really too thick and they
don't supply enough leather grease with the rebuild kits.
Roverly,
Kent K.
S Manwell wrote:
> Glen,
>
> Either a replacement servo as Ben suggests, or a rebuild of the
> Girling MkII cylinder is viable, but there are multiple assist ratios
> available in new servos.
> What is wrong with the leather seal on your servo? Typically the
> leather seal in the vacuum drum does not need replacement. Servo
> rebuild kits come with a length of extruded foam rubber rod that gets
> packed behind the existing leather seal to renew the ability of the
> seal to press against vacuum drum. A related issue is that Girling
> rebuild kits often came with a foam rod that was too large in diameter
> or not soft enough, such that the seal was too tight against the drum
> and the vacuum piston would stick in the cylinder.
>
> If the leather seal in your servo is in fact damaged, then it should
> be possible to find a good used piston and seal to use in a rebuild --
> I may have spare. If you are going the rebuild route, then you may
> also need to have the hydraulic cylinder bore sleeved in brass or
> stainless.
>
> --Steve Manwell
>
From gwlucas at granite.mb.ca Sun Apr 4 18:24:17 2010
From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca (Glen Lucas)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:24:17 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <4BB908CF.5060701@att.net>
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Message-ID: <E74FBA04433C4FD5B8A1EB6E2A0F2A6F@laptop>
Hi Kent. Good to hear from you.
In the past when I have rebuilt this type of servo, I did not find enough
grease in the seal kit either. I do not think the intent is to lubricate
the cylinder walls, but rather the rubber ring. However, I found some of
the "old style" mechanics locally rebuilding these things with graphite as a
lubricant. You purchase it in an aerosol can and apply liberally. It dries
fairly quickly and will get the job done. Work the seal in and out of the
cylinder until the piston moves with moderate pressure. The spring should
not push the piston out. If it does, I suggest there is too much lubricant
and the boot will not seal. This requires vacuum or air pressure on the
other side. The spring just keeps the piston moving evenly. Now re-attach
the piston assembly to the main body of the servo and it should work.
With respect to the boot, the ones I have seen in the past are formed from
one piece. It looks like they start out as a flat piece of leather formed
in a mold of some sort. Shoe makers, hand pumps and upholsterers use the
technique with some success. I think the tire pump in the trunk uses this
system.
If I can get this thing to work, I will be happy to try re-building one of
your spares.
Never give up until you are under the soil or you get called to dinner. ;-)
Regards
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>;
<Rover_net at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Glen,
> I will echo Steve's comments. I have had my Girling booster on my P4 100
> apart four times so far and it still sticks. I have several Lockheed type
> boosters and think I will rebuild and install one in the P4 rather than
> fool with the Girling booster again. I had one leather seal that simply
> parted at the joint. It seems the leather is simply glued togather to make
> the band. The booster itself is not hard to rebuild but the rubber spacer
> that goes behind the seal is really too thick and they don't supply enough
> leather grease with the rebuild kits.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> S Manwell wrote:
>> Glen,
>>
>> Either a replacement servo as Ben suggests, or a rebuild of the Girling
>> MkII cylinder is viable, but there are multiple assist ratios available
>> in new servos.
>> What is wrong with the leather seal on your servo? Typically the leather
>> seal in the vacuum drum does not need replacement. Servo rebuild kits
>> come with a length of extruded foam rubber rod that gets packed behind
>> the existing leather seal to renew the ability of the seal to press
>> against vacuum drum. A related issue is that Girling rebuild kits often
>> came with a foam rod that was too large in diameter or not soft enough,
>> such that the seal was too tight against the drum and the vacuum piston
>> would stick in the cylinder.
>>
>> If the leather seal in your servo is in fact damaged, then it should be
>> possible to find a good used piston and seal to use in a rebuild --
>> I may have spare. If you are going the rebuild route, then you may also
>> need to have the hydraulic cylinder bore sleeved in brass or stainless.
>>
>> --Steve Manwell
>>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Apr 4 19:47:53 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:47:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rover_net] Support for Eric's
Efforts
In-Reply-To: <20100404.150309.2348.0.dmesmg@juno.com>
Message-ID: <889973.762.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I received Dan's message on *both* the Mailman and the Rover_net Yahoo side. (Thanks for the support).
The service is irregular from the Mailman side. It could be due to the Domain Name Server we use or some other technical information in the full header which SPAM filters don't like.
I am investigating a variety of options behind the scenes but it's very useful to have feedback from the subscribers so that I can better explain what I see happening.
The duel posting (at the moment) is annoying for folk but useful as a fault-finding tool.
Eric
List Admin
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--- On Sun, 4/4/10, dmesmg at juno.com <dmesmg at juno.com> wrote:
> From: dmesmg at juno.com <dmesmg at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rover_net] Support for Eric's Efforts
> To: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: rovernet at rovernet.ca, Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> Received: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 12:03 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Glen and Eric,
> I definitely did not interpret this discussion as negative
> in any
> way--appears to be a solid investigation into causes and
> options.? I
> would like to offer my sincere thanks to Eric especially
> for all he does
> for the group on the technical front.?
>
> (I am only receiving yahoo notes at the moment --the influx
> of
> 'rovernet.ca' notes has been sporadic at best --off for a
> month at a
> time).???
>
> Best regards,
> Dan Suter
> Rochester,NY,USA
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From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:47:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rover_net] Support for Eric's
Efforts
In-Reply-To: <20100404.150309.2348.0.dmesmg@juno.com>
Message-ID: <889973.762.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I received Dan's message on *both* the Mailman and the Rover_net Yahoo side. (Thanks for the support).
The service is irregular from the Mailman side. It could be due to the Domain Name Server we use or some other technical information in the full header which SPAM filters don't like.
I am investigating a variety of options behind the scenes but it's very useful to have feedback from the subscribers so that I can better explain what I see happening.
The duel posting (at the moment) is annoying for folk but useful as a fault-finding tool.
Eric
List Admin
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sun, 4/4/10, dmesmg at juno.com <dmesmg at juno.com> wrote:
> From: dmesmg at juno.com <dmesmg at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rover_net] Support for Eric's Efforts
> To: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: rovernet at rovernet.ca, Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> Received: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 12:03 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Glen and Eric,
> I definitely did not interpret this discussion as negative
> in any
> way--appears to be a solid investigation into causes and
> options.? I
> would like to offer my sincere thanks to Eric especially
> for all he does
> for the group on the technical front.?
>
> (I am only receiving yahoo notes at the moment --the influx
> of
> 'rovernet.ca' notes has been sporadic at best --off for a
> month at a
> time).???
>
> Best regards,
> Dan Suter
> Rochester,NY,USA
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Sun Apr 4 20:15:36 2010
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:15:36 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet woes
Message-ID: <9CE216B9-9B2A-4A62-AECE-78E8C246B073@telusplanet.net>
Hello Eric et al.
Would have replied sooner but Rovernet would not recognize emails sent
from my iphone.
I have formed a habit using the monthly archives to follow Rovernet. I
have compared the archives with received emails and it appears that I
have received everything.
If the group needs to move I am fine with that.
Roy Babiuk
From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Sun Apr 4 20:33:15 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:33:15 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <E74FBA04433C4FD5B8A1EB6E2A0F2A6F@laptop>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net> <B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop> <D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1><4BB8BD40.8020002@alum.swarthmore.edu> <4BB908CF.5060701@att.net>
<E74FBA04433C4FD5B8A1EB6E2A0F2A6F@laptop>
Message-ID: <4BB92FCB.3050205@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Hi Glen,
My take on the Girling rebuild is slightly different. As far as I can
tell, the vacuum piston must be returned by the big spring after vacuum
is released. If the piston seal is too tight against the vacuum
cylinder or if there isn't enough lubrication between the seal and the
cylinder, then the brakes stick on if the spring can't return the
piston. This is what happened with my first attempt at rebuilding the
servo for my 3 litre -- the brakes stuck on more and more each time I
pressed the pedal, and the problem turned out to be the oversize foam
rubber rod making the seal too tight. In that case I re-used the
original foam rod in the second attempt and then the servo worked fine.
When a pressure signal comes from the brake master cylinder, the valve
body on the side of the servo applies vacuum to the spring side of the
vacuum piston, and atmospheric pressure to the other side via the pipe
on the side of the vacuum cylinder. Atmospheric pressure pushes the
piston against the spring, increasing pressure on the outlet brake
line. When the brake is released, the valve body equalizes pressure on
both sides of the vacuum piston, so it's up to the big spring to push it
back to the released brake position.
Also, I don't see a need for grease between the foam rubber rod and the
inside of the leather seal, so I have always understood that the black
grease in some kits is to lubricate the seal and the cylinder wall of
the vacuum drum.
The spray graphite sounds like a good lead as an alternate or supplement
to the grease packet that may or may not be in the kit.
--Steve
Glen Lucas wrote:
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hi Kent. Good to hear from you.
>
> In the past when I have rebuilt this type of servo, I did not find
> enough grease in the seal kit either. I do not think the intent is to
> lubricate the cylinder walls, but rather the rubber ring. However, I
> found some of the "old style" mechanics locally rebuilding these
> things with graphite as a lubricant. You purchase it in an aerosol
> can and apply liberally. It dries fairly quickly and will get the job
> done. Work the seal in and out of the cylinder until the piston moves
> with moderate pressure. The spring should not push the piston out. If
> it does, I suggest there is too much lubricant and the boot will not
> seal. This requires vacuum or air pressure on the other side. The
> spring just keeps the piston moving evenly. Now re-attach the piston
> assembly to the main body of the servo and it should work.
>
> With respect to the boot, the ones I have seen in the past are formed
> from one piece. It looks like they start out as a flat piece of
> leather formed in a mold of some sort. Shoe makers, hand pumps and
> upholsterers use the technique with some success. I think the tire
> pump in the trunk uses this system.
>
> If I can get this thing to work, I will be happy to try re-building
> one of your spares.
>
> Never give up until you are under the soil or you get called to
> dinner. ;-)
>
> Regards
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>; <Rover_net at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
>
>> Please also join the back-up group at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>> AND then send a CC: copy to:
>> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>> to test this system.
>> *
>> *
>> Glen,
>> I will echo Steve's comments. I have had my Girling booster on my P4
>> 100 apart four times so far and it still sticks. I have several
>> Lockheed type boosters and think I will rebuild and install one in
>> the P4 rather than fool with the Girling booster again. I had one
>> leather seal that simply parted at the joint. It seems the leather is
>> simply glued togather to make the band. The booster itself is not
>> hard to rebuild but the rubber spacer that goes behind the seal is
>> really too thick and they don't supply enough leather grease with the
>> rebuild kits.
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>> S Manwell wrote:
>>> Glen,
>>>
>>> Either a replacement servo as Ben suggests, or a rebuild of the
>>> Girling MkII cylinder is viable, but there are multiple assist
>>> ratios available in new servos.
>>> What is wrong with the leather seal on your servo? Typically the
>>> leather seal in the vacuum drum does not need replacement. Servo
>>> rebuild kits come with a length of extruded foam rubber rod that
>>> gets packed behind the existing leather seal to renew the ability of
>>> the seal to press against vacuum drum. A related issue is that
>>> Girling rebuild kits often came with a foam rod that was too large
>>> in diameter or not soft enough, such that the seal was too tight
>>> against the drum and the vacuum piston would stick in the cylinder.
>>>
>>> If the leather seal in your servo is in fact damaged, then it should
>>> be possible to find a good used piston and seal to use in a rebuild
>>> -- I may have spare. If you are going the rebuild route, then you
>>> may also need to have the hydraulic cylinder bore sleeved in brass
>>> or stainless.
>>>
>>> --Steve Manwell
>>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page.
>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From rovercar at comcast.net Sun Apr 4 20:56:13 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:56:13 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <4BB92FCB.3050205@alum.swarthmore.edu>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net> <B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop> <D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1><4BB8BD40.8020002@alum.swarthmore.edu> <4BB908CF.5060701@att.net> <E74FBA04433C4FD5B8A1EB6E2A0F2A6F@laptop>
<4BB92FCB.3050205@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: <4BB9352D.1020303@comcast.net>
You guys might want to check out this page:
http://www.head2head.free-online.co.uk/Rover/servo.htm
I used it as my guide for a successful rebuild, including reusing the
old piece of foam. Be sure to follow the link to the original kit
instructions because there are useful details in them.
The Other Glen
S Manwell wrote:
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hi Glen,
>
> My take on the Girling rebuild is slightly different. As far as I can
> tell, the vacuum piston must be returned by the big spring after
> vacuum is released. If the piston seal is too tight against the
> vacuum cylinder or if there isn't enough lubrication between the seal
> and the cylinder, then the brakes stick on if the spring can't return
> the piston. This is what happened with my first attempt at rebuilding
> the servo for my 3 litre -- the brakes stuck on more and more each
> time I pressed the pedal, and the problem turned out to be the
> oversize foam rubber rod making the seal too tight. In that case I
> re-used the original foam rod in the second attempt and then the servo
> worked fine.
>
> When a pressure signal comes from the brake master cylinder, the valve
> body on the side of the servo applies vacuum to the spring side of the
> vacuum piston, and atmospheric pressure to the other side via the pipe
> on the side of the vacuum cylinder. Atmospheric pressure pushes the
> piston against the spring, increasing pressure on the outlet brake
> line. When the brake is released, the valve body equalizes pressure
> on both sides of the vacuum piston, so it's up to the big spring to
> push it back to the released brake position.
>
> Also, I don't see a need for grease between the foam rubber rod and
> the inside of the leather seal, so I have always understood that the
> black grease in some kits is to lubricate the seal and the cylinder
> wall of the vacuum drum.
>
> The spray graphite sounds like a good lead as an alternate or
> supplement to the grease packet that may or may not be in the kit.
>
> --Steve
>
>
> Glen Lucas wrote:
>> Please also join the back-up group at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>> AND then send a CC: copy to:
>> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>> to test this system.
>> *
>> *
>> Hi Kent. Good to hear from you.
>>
>> In the past when I have rebuilt this type of servo, I did not find
>> enough grease in the seal kit either. I do not think the intent is
>> to lubricate the cylinder walls, but rather the rubber ring.
>> However, I found some of the "old style" mechanics locally rebuilding
>> these things with graphite as a lubricant. You purchase it in an
>> aerosol can and apply liberally. It dries fairly quickly and will
>> get the job done. Work the seal in and out of the cylinder until the
>> piston moves with moderate pressure. The spring should not push the
>> piston out. If it does, I suggest there is too much lubricant and
>> the boot will not seal. This requires vacuum or air pressure on the
>> other side. The spring just keeps the piston moving evenly. Now
>> re-attach the piston assembly to the main body of the servo and it
>> should work.
>>
>> With respect to the boot, the ones I have seen in the past are formed
>> from one piece. It looks like they start out as a flat piece of
>> leather formed in a mold of some sort. Shoe makers, hand pumps and
>> upholsterers use the technique with some success. I think the tire
>> pump in the trunk uses this system.
>>
>> If I can get this thing to work, I will be happy to try re-building
>> one of your spares.
>>
>> Never give up until you are under the soil or you get called to
>> dinner. ;-)
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>; <Rover_net at yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>>
>>
>>> Please also join the back-up group at:
>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>> AND then send a CC: copy to:
>>> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>>> to test this system.
>>> *
>>> *
>>> Glen,
>>> I will echo Steve's comments. I have had my Girling booster on my P4
>>> 100 apart four times so far and it still sticks. I have several
>>> Lockheed type boosters and think I will rebuild and install one in
>>> the P4 rather than fool with the Girling booster again. I had one
>>> leather seal that simply parted at the joint. It seems the leather
>>> is simply glued togather to make the band. The booster itself is not
>>> hard to rebuild but the rubber spacer that goes behind the seal is
>>> really too thick and they don't supply enough leather grease with
>>> the rebuild kits.
>>>
>>> Roverly,
>>> Kent K.
>>>
>>> S Manwell wrote:
>>>> Glen,
>>>>
>>>> Either a replacement servo as Ben suggests, or a rebuild of the
>>>> Girling MkII cylinder is viable, but there are multiple assist
>>>> ratios available in new servos.
>>>> What is wrong with the leather seal on your servo? Typically the
>>>> leather seal in the vacuum drum does not need replacement. Servo
>>>> rebuild kits come with a length of extruded foam rubber rod that
>>>> gets packed behind the existing leather seal to renew the ability
>>>> of the seal to press against vacuum drum. A related issue is that
>>>> Girling rebuild kits often came with a foam rod that was too large
>>>> in diameter or not soft enough, such that the seal was too tight
>>>> against the drum and the vacuum piston would stick in the cylinder.
>>>>
>>>> If the leather seal in your servo is in fact damaged, then it
>>>> should be possible to find a good used piston and seal to use in a
>>>> rebuild -- I may have spare. If you are going the rebuild route,
>>>> then you may also need to have the hydraulic cylinder bore sleeved
>>>> in brass or stainless.
>>>>
>>>> --Steve Manwell
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page.
>>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page.
>> Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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>>
>>
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From boulter.t.h at bigpond.com Mon Apr 5 00:53:32 2010
From: boulter.t.h at bigpond.com (Tanya&Hugh Boulter)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:53:32 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <o2x204ec4391004031137u867dfbd3u9a09712bc3604760@mail.gmail.com>
<724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <28226B4B7FE7433DB119B2D4897EC292@Boulter>
Hi There,
Firstly, Happy Easter!
I have a very late Mk 111 Auto Saloon which I have recently purchased.
It was a bit of a barn find not having been used for almost 15 years.
After some fresh petrol, checking the plugs and spark, I almost got the car
to start. I have two fairly good goes at getting the car to start. It was
very close to starting and even ran for a few cycles and stopped.
I highlight that I have been churning away on the starter a bit but have
been giving it regular periods to cool down and I have not yet flattened
the battery.
I have fitted new plugs yesterday and ordered a new coil and a set of leads.
After installing the plugs I had high expectations of the cat starting, but
when I turned the key the warning lights have come on as usual but the
starter will not crank and the electrical system does not seem to be
drawing, as the lights are not dimming at all when the key is held in the
starter position.
I thought I had blown a fuse, but other items on the same circuit are
functioning.
Learned Gentlemen, does any body have any ideas?
Cheers,
Hugh
Hugh Boulter
Canberra ACT
Australia
1967 P5 Auto Saloon
1968 P5B auto Coupe
1973 P6B 3500S
1975 P6B 3500
LR 1969 S2A LWB
LR 2001 RR 4.0S
LR 2003 Discovery 4.0
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 01:48:26 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:48:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (Mark III starting trouble)
In-Reply-To: <28226B4B7FE7433DB119B2D4897EC292@Boulter>
Message-ID: <546909.57450.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hugh,
You are posting your request at a time when we are trying to determine the level of trouble some members have been having with sending and receiving Rovernet mail.
Your request may or may not get out to all our members. I have set up a back-up list and members are adding their names and posting to the main list <rovernet at rovernet.ca> with a copy (CC:) to the Yahoo Groups list. If you think you might be interested, here's a link.
Eric Russell
List Admin
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sun, 4/4/10, Tanya&Hugh Boulter <boulter.t.h at bigpond.com> wrote:
> From: Tanya&Hugh Boulter <boulter.t.h at bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 9:53 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
>
> Hi There,
>
> Firstly, Happy Easter!
>
> I have a very late Mk 111 Auto Saloon which I have recently
> purchased.
>
> It was a bit of a barn find not having been used for almost
> 15 years.
>
> After some fresh petrol, checking the plugs and spark, I
> almost got the car
> to start. I have two fairly good goes at getting the car to
> start. It was
> very close to starting and even ran for a few cycles and
> stopped.
>
> I highlight that I have been churning away on the starter a
> bit but have
> been giving it regular periods to cool down and I?
> have not yet flattened
> the battery.
>
> I have fitted new plugs yesterday and ordered a new coil
> and a set of leads.
>
> After installing the plugs I had high expectations of the
> cat starting, but
> when I turned the key the warning lights have come on as
> usual but the
> starter will not crank and the electrical system does not
> seem to be
> drawing, as the lights are not dimming at all when the key
> is held in the
> starter position.
>
> I thought I had blown a fuse, but other items on the same
> circuit are
> functioning.
>
> Learned Gentlemen, does any body have any ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Hugh
>
> Hugh Boulter
> Canberra ACT
> Australia
>
>
>
> 1967 P5 Auto Saloon
> 1968 P5B auto Coupe
> 1973 P6B 3500S
> 1975 P6B 3500
>
> LR 1969 S2A LWB
> LR 2001 RR 4.0S
> LR 2003 Discovery 4.0
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com Mon Apr 5 01:56:53 2010
From: raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com (Ray Wilkins)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:56:53 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
Message-ID: <4BB97BA5.60303@bigpond.com>
Hello All,
I did reply to one of Eric's earlier emails but it seems to have been
lost in the ether. However, I do seem to be receiving all other posts.
Does the 'plain text' rule still apply? I now use Thunderbird as my
email client but I have been choosing the plain text format. I hope this
post appears.
Regards,
Ray Wilkins
Melbourne Australia
From vmitps at netspace.net.au Mon Apr 5 02:21:20 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:21:20 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <28226B4B7FE7433DB119B2D4897EC292@Boulter>
References: <o2x204ec4391004031137u867dfbd3u9a09712bc3604760@mail.gmail.com><724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<28226B4B7FE7433DB119B2D4897EC292@Boulter>
Message-ID: <7ABFE1785DCC4A64A616B1DFFE2B51CD@Vista>
Solenoid is not happy.
Not sure where they are on a P5, but follow the big lead from the starter
which will go to it.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tanya&Hugh Boulter" <boulter.t.h at bigpond.com>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
>
> Hi There,
>
> Firstly, Happy Easter!
>
> I have a very late Mk 111 Auto Saloon which I have recently purchased.
>
> It was a bit of a barn find not having been used for almost 15 years.
>
> After some fresh petrol, checking the plugs and spark, I almost got the
> car
> to start. I have two fairly good goes at getting the car to start. It was
> very close to starting and even ran for a few cycles and stopped.
>
> I highlight that I have been churning away on the starter a bit but have
> been giving it regular periods to cool down and I have not yet flattened
> the battery.
>
> I have fitted new plugs yesterday and ordered a new coil and a set of
> leads.
>
> After installing the plugs I had high expectations of the cat starting,
> but
> when I turned the key the warning lights have come on as usual but the
> starter will not crank and the electrical system does not seem to be
> drawing, as the lights are not dimming at all when the key is held in the
> starter position.
>
> I thought I had blown a fuse, but other items on the same circuit are
> functioning.
>
> Learned Gentlemen, does any body have any ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Hugh
>
> Hugh Boulter
> Canberra ACT
> Australia
>
>
>
> 1967 P5 Auto Saloon
> 1968 P5B auto Coupe
> 1973 P6B 3500S
> 1975 P6B 3500
>
> LR 1969 S2A LWB
> LR 2001 RR 4.0S
> LR 2003 Discovery 4.0
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon Apr 5 05:23:14 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:23:14 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081FA3@Server.adoptsec.local>
References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081FA3@Server.adoptsec.local>
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:21:19 +0900, you wrote:
>Interesting to see how much this old chap goes for?.
>
>
>
>http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=EUR&screen=lotdetailsNoFlash&iSaleItemNo=4552182&iSaleNo=18209&iSaleSectionNo=2
Did you see? Sold for ?12,075 inclusive of Buyer's Premium.
Cheers,
Peter H
From DevlinS at bp.com Mon Apr 5 05:35:15 2010
From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor))
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:35:15 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
References: <4BB97BA5.60303@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15709D236@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com>
Hi,
I also replied to one of Eric's earlier posts but it did not appear, now trying a copy to the Yahoo group to see if that works.
Stewart Devlin
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of Ray Wilkins
Sent: Mon 05/04/2010 06:56
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Hello All,
I did reply to one of Eric's earlier emails but it seems to have been
lost in the ether. However, I do seem to be receiving all other posts.
Does the 'plain text' rule still apply? I now use Thunderbird as my
email client but I have been choosing the plain text format. I hope this
post appears.
Regards,
Ray Wilkins
Melbourne Australia
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 07:14:35 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 04:14:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
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<mtajr5pm57b1gma0a1iecec0ghvcs1ajno@4ax.com>
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pretty car!
________________________________
From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Cc: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 5:23:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:21:19 +0900, you wrote:
>Interesting to see how much this old chap goes for?.
>
>
>
>http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=EUR&screen=lotdetailsNoFlash&iSaleItemNo=4552182&iSaleNo=18209&iSaleSectionNo=2
Did you see? Sold for ?12,075 inclusive of Buyer's Premium.
Cheers,
Peter H
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From jLewis at wsscwater.com Mon Apr 5 08:30:23 2010
From: jLewis at wsscwater.com (Lewis, Joseph (Michael))
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:30:23 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
In-Reply-To: <4BB7778E.30907@comcast.net>
References: <708443.98671.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4BB7778E.30907@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B263CD0849EEED4496950A6F1247AB6C074035@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root>
For what it's worth, I'm experiencing no problems with the Rovernet. I'm
getting all the stuff you guys write and responses and I know we have
heavy spam filters here at WSSC.
J. Michael Lewis
WSSC
14501 Sweitzer Lane
Laurel MD 20707
301.206.7054
fax 301.206.7110
(c) 240.687.8055
jlewis at wsscwater.com
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of Glen Wilson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:15 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
Eric Russell wrote:
> Glen et al,
> I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this Mailman thing.
> Ref: The Peter Principle
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
>
> Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by Yahoo Groups?
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> What do you think?
>
> Eric
> List Admin
>
Eric, from what I can tell from my research, the Mailman software is not
difficult in terms of routine administration but becomes a very geeky
command-line proposition when one needs to troubleshoot it. So, don't
feel bad if you decide it is more trouble than it is worth, if it's
going to be problems. Your version of Mailman is only one minor revision
behind the absolute newest. At this point, there may be easier ways to
accomplish the same result, and nobody wants you tearing your hair out
if there's no need.
I know Google Groups can perfectly simulate the current list operation
as well as supply a web interface. You know more about Yahoo.
One thing I'm not clear on is how widespread the problems are. I know
you want the list to work for everyone, but is it just a few people like
me who could do work-arounds?
Whatever you choose to do will have my support.
Glen
how many people are actually experiencing trouble?
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From gwlucas at granite.mb.ca Mon Apr 5 08:45:33 2010
From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca (Glen Lucas)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:45:33 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <28226B4B7FE7433DB119B2D4897EC292@Boulter>
References: <o2x204ec4391004031137u867dfbd3u9a09712bc3604760@mail.gmail.com><724248.17733.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<28226B4B7FE7433DB119B2D4897EC292@Boulter>
Message-ID: <555CE0E45C6E4591875A8C0B843A3BDA@laptop>
Hi Hugh,
Congrats on you find.
I think the next thing I would check is to see if you have accidentally
dislodged the wires from the starter relay. Have a look on your firewall or
follow the wires from the switch down to the starter. You will likely find
something off there.
Trying to start a sleeping car means lots of arms and elbows bumping stuff.
Regards,
Glen Lucas
If you need one more test,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tanya&Hugh Boulter" <boulter.t.h at bigpond.com>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
>
> Hi There,
>
> Firstly, Happy Easter!
>
> I have a very late Mk 111 Auto Saloon which I have recently purchased.
>
> It was a bit of a barn find not having been used for almost 15 years.
>
> After some fresh petrol, checking the plugs and spark, I almost got the
> car
> to start. I have two fairly good goes at getting the car to start. It was
> very close to starting and even ran for a few cycles and stopped.
>
> I highlight that I have been churning away on the starter a bit but have
> been giving it regular periods to cool down and I have not yet flattened
> the battery.
>
> I have fitted new plugs yesterday and ordered a new coil and a set of
> leads.
>
> After installing the plugs I had high expectations of the cat starting,
> but
> when I turned the key the warning lights have come on as usual but the
> starter will not crank and the electrical system does not seem to be
> drawing, as the lights are not dimming at all when the key is held in the
> starter position.
>
> I thought I had blown a fuse, but other items on the same circuit are
> functioning.
>
> Learned Gentlemen, does any body have any ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Hugh
>
> Hugh Boulter
> Canberra ACT
> Australia
>
>
>
> 1967 P5 Auto Saloon
> 1968 P5B auto Coupe
> 1973 P6B 3500S
> 1975 P6B 3500
>
> LR 1969 S2A LWB
> LR 2001 RR 4.0S
> LR 2003 Discovery 4.0
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon Apr 5 08:14:31 2010
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:14:31 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net><B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop><D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1>
<485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop>
Message-ID: <429B140EE7FB47EAB6042CBB0DA78240@SD1>
Glen,
Is the car RHD or LHD and is the master cylinder under the frame cross
member or is it the type that is on the firewall?
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Glen Lucas
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:20 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
Thanks Ben,
Moss Motors show a Lockheed replacement for the Girling system used in the
Healey 3000. I am pretty sure they are compatible. However, Moss charges
$400 and when we add freight and brokerage the cost gets a bit high. JRW
will rebuild the Girling for about the same price. Again, plus shipping
etc.
The piece is very simple and I suspect anyone who has worked with leather
will be able to make one. The key is to build a press to form the leather
into a cup. Very much the same process as making shoes. The original from
my car is in one piece and has just gotten soft from contact with brake
fluid. If I cannot find someone else to supply, I think I will try to make
one before putting down that kind of money. Necessity is the mother of
invention, after all.
Regards,
Glen Lucas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
> Hi Glen,
> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the lines
> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>
> Ben Saunders
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
> Hello,
>
> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a question
> related to keeping the cars alive.
>
> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder
> portion
>
> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the Austin
> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this as
> well.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen Lucas
>
> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>
>
>> Hi Warren,
>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>
>> Kent K.
>>
>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
>>> think
>
>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) equivalent
>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>> G. Warren Smith
>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure
> to scroll down the whole page.
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>
>
>
>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 11:57:31 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:57:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
In-Reply-To: <B263CD0849EEED4496950A6F1247AB6C074035@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root>
Message-ID: <1931518456.2129441270483051344.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
I am away from my home computer, but still getting everything O. K. I am still on Comcast which was one of the problem ISP's. Too awkward to try the yahoo thing until I get home. Please do not drop the existing before Friday.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lewis (Michael)" <jLewis at wsscwater.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2010 5:30:23 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
For what it's worth, I'm experiencing no problems with the Rovernet. I'm
getting all the stuff you guys write and responses and I know we have
heavy spam filters here at WSSC.
J. Michael Lewis
WSSC
14501 Sweitzer Lane
Laurel MD 20707
301.206.7054
fax 301.206.7110
(c) 240.687.8055
jlewis at wsscwater.com
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of Glen Wilson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:15 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
Eric Russell wrote:
> Glen et al,
> I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this Mailman thing.
> Ref: The Peter Principle
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
>
> Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by Yahoo Groups?
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> What do you think?
>
> Eric
> List Admin
>
Eric, from what I can tell from my research, the Mailman software is not
difficult in terms of routine administration but becomes a very geeky
command-line proposition when one needs to troubleshoot it. So, don't
feel bad if you decide it is more trouble than it is worth, if it's
going to be problems. Your version of Mailman is only one minor revision
behind the absolute newest. At this point, there may be easier ways to
accomplish the same result, and nobody wants you tearing your hair out
if there's no need.
I know Google Groups can perfectly simulate the current list operation
as well as supply a web interface. You know more about Yahoo.
One thing I'm not clear on is how widespread the problems are. I know
you want the list to work for everyone, but is it just a few people like
me who could do work-arounds?
Whatever you choose to do will have my support.
Glen
how many people are actually experiencing trouble?
To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 12:05:41 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:05:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
In-Reply-To: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15709D236@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com>
Message-ID: <716732.28108.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Stewart,
Glen rightfully pointed out in a private email that your post to the list appeared in the archives but it did not come through the server system to my INBOX.
I DID get this message from the Yahoo Groups side......
Thanks for investigating for us.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) <DevlinS at bp.com> wrote:
> From: Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) <DevlinS at bp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Cc: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:35 AM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hi,
>
> I also replied to one of Eric's earlier posts but it did
> not appear, now trying a copy to the Yahoo group to see if
> that works.
>
> Stewart Devlin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> on behalf of Ray Wilkins
> Sent: Mon 05/04/2010 06:56
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hello All,
>
> I did reply to one of Eric's earlier emails but it seems to
> have been
> lost in the ether. However, I do seem to be receiving all
> other posts.
> Does the 'plain text' rule still apply? I now use
> Thunderbird as my
> email client but I have been choosing the plain text
> format. I hope this
> post appears.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ray Wilkins
> Melbourne Australia
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 12:09:03 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
In-Reply-To: <B263CD0849EEED4496950A6F1247AB6C074035@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root>
Message-ID: <875774.79699.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks for the, further, and good news.
Still can't make sense of it.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Lewis, Joseph (Michael) <jLewis at wsscwater.com> wrote:
> From: Lewis, Joseph (Michael) <jLewis at wsscwater.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Monday, April 5, 2010, 5:30 AM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> For what it's worth, I'm experiencing no problems with the
> Rovernet. I'm
> getting all the stuff you guys write and responses and I
> know we have
> heavy spam filters here at WSSC.
>
> J. Michael Lewis
>
> WSSC
> 14501 Sweitzer Lane
> Laurel MD???20707
> 301.206.7054
> fax 301.206.7110
> (c) 240.687.8055
> jlewis at wsscwater.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On Behalf Of Glen Wilson
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:15 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now:
> Test 666
>
> Eric Russell wrote:
> > Glen et al,
> > I think I have reached my level of incompetance on
> this Mailman thing.
> > Ref: The Peter Principle
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
> >
> > Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by
> Yahoo Groups?
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Eric
> > List Admin
> >???
>
> Eric, from what I can tell from my research, the Mailman
> software is not
>
> difficult in terms of routine administration but becomes a
> very geeky
> command-line proposition when one needs to troubleshoot it.
> So, don't
> feel bad if you decide it is more trouble than it is worth,
> if it's
> going to be problems. Your version of Mailman is only one
> minor revision
>
> behind the absolute newest. At this point, there may be
> easier ways to
> accomplish the same result, and nobody wants you tearing
> your hair out
> if there's no need.
>
> I know Google Groups can perfectly simulate the current
> list operation
> as well as supply a web interface. You know more about
> Yahoo.
>
> One thing I'm not clear on is how widespread the problems
> are. I know
> you want the list to work for everyone, but is it just a
> few people like
>
> me who could do work-arounds?
>
> Whatever you choose to do will have my support.
>
> Glen
>
> how many people are actually experiencing trouble?
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 12:11:31 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:11:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
In-Reply-To: <1931518456.2129441270483051344.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <111988.80581.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Slats,
Glad you are still getting signals.
No plans to drop existing system at the moment. Still fault-finding.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Mon, 4/5/10, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Monday, April 5, 2010, 8:57 AM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> I am away from my home computer, but still getting
> everything O. K. I am still on Comcast which was one of the
> problem ISP's. Too awkward to try the yahoo thing until I
> get home. Please do not drop the existing before Friday.
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Lewis (Michael)" <jLewis at wsscwater.com>
>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2010 5:30:23 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> Pacific
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now:
> Test 666
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> For what it's worth, I'm experiencing no problems with the
> Rovernet. I'm
> getting all the stuff you guys write and responses and I
> know we have
> heavy spam filters here at WSSC.
>
> J. Michael Lewis
>
> WSSC
> 14501 Sweitzer Lane
> Laurel MD 20707
> 301.206.7054
> fax 301.206.7110
> (c) 240.687.8055
> jlewis at wsscwater.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>
> On Behalf Of Glen Wilson
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:15 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now:
> Test 666
>
> Eric Russell wrote:
> > Glen et al,
> > I think I have reached my level of incompetance on
> this Mailman thing.
> > Ref: The Peter Principle
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
> >
> > Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by
> Yahoo Groups?
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Eric
> > List Admin
> >
>
> Eric, from what I can tell from my research, the Mailman
> software is not
>
> difficult in terms of routine administration but becomes a
> very geeky
> command-line proposition when one needs to troubleshoot it.
> So, don't
> feel bad if you decide it is more trouble than it is worth,
> if it's
> going to be problems. Your version of Mailman is only one
> minor revision
>
> behind the absolute newest. At this point, there may be
> easier ways to
> accomplish the same result, and nobody wants you tearing
> your hair out
> if there's no need.
>
> I know Google Groups can perfectly simulate the current
> list operation
> as well as supply a web interface. You know more about
> Yahoo.
>
> One thing I'm not clear on is how widespread the problems
> are. I know
> you want the list to work for everyone, but is it just a
> few people like
>
> me who could do work-arounds?
>
> Whatever you choose to do will have my support.
>
> Glen
>
> how many people are actually experiencing trouble?
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 12:14:45 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:14:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] thanks @ Q re wire wheels
Message-ID: <381636.38017.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi all,
Thanks to everyone who has been working on sorting out glitches - it's very much appreciated.
Also:? Does anyone know the correct size tire for fitment to the factory 2000 TC wire wheels?
TIA,
Jim
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From rovernet at shaw.ca Mon Apr 5 12:18:55 2010
From: rovernet at shaw.ca (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:18:55 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
In-Reply-To: <4BB97BA5.60303@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAleJEIJvEg0m9GmtpC6QyMwEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
Ray,
I am not sure about whether or not the Yahoo groups is set for Plain, HTML,
or both. I'm still peddling as fast as I can. The Mailman version was set
for Plain Text only as that was a standard recommendation for mailing lists
as a security measure for members.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Ray Wilkins
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:57 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Hello All,
I did reply to one of Eric's earlier emails but it seems to have been
lost in the ether. However, I do seem to be receiving all other posts.
Does the 'plain text' rule still apply? I now use Thunderbird as my
email client but I have been choosing the plain text format. I hope this
post appears.
Regards,
Ray Wilkins
Melbourne Australia
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From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 12:22:59 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:22:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <555CE0E45C6E4591875A8C0B843A3BDA@laptop>
Message-ID: <655756734.2143501270484579669.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Hi Hugh,
I would start by charging your battery fully and while that was in process, I would check all the connections and grounds involved in the starting circuit. You obviously are not getting power to the starting solenoid or the other side of it (ground) to complete the circuit. But, recognize that in addition to having voltage to something, you must also have enough contact surface at the connection to carry the required current. The large wires from the battery and starter are there for a reason and if the entire surface of the connectors is not used, you in effect have a small wire rather than a large one. When you do sort your problem, I am certain that it will be 1. A loose wire, 2. A dirty or corroded connection (including inside the starter switch), or 3. A weak battery.
Fortunately, even though I am out of town, I do have my great copy of MGB Electrical Systems with me. I will look at that shortly, but wanted to get my first thoughts out to you.
Slats
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From gwlucas at granite.mb.ca Mon Apr 5 13:14:02 2010
From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca (Glen Lucas)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:14:02 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <429B140EE7FB47EAB6042CBB0DA78240@SD1>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net><B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop><D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1><485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop>
<429B140EE7FB47EAB6042CBB0DA78240@SD1>
Message-ID: <F3E2B405AB8647C282F446E1898EEF8E@laptop>
Hi Ben,
It is LHD with the master under the frame member.
Thanks,
Glen L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Glen,
> Is the car RHD or LHD and is the master cylinder under the frame cross
> member or is it the type that is on the firewall?
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:20 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> Thanks Ben,
>
> Moss Motors show a Lockheed replacement for the Girling system used in the
> Healey 3000. I am pretty sure they are compatible. However, Moss charges
> $400 and when we add freight and brokerage the cost gets a bit high. JRW
> will rebuild the Girling for about the same price. Again, plus shipping
> etc.
>
> The piece is very simple and I suspect anyone who has worked with leather
> will be able to make one. The key is to build a press to form the leather
> into a cup. Very much the same process as making shoes. The original
> from
> my car is in one piece and has just gotten soft from contact with brake
> fluid. If I cannot find someone else to supply, I think I will try to
> make
> one before putting down that kind of money. Necessity is the mother of
> invention, after all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen Lucas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
>
>> Hi Glen,
>> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
>> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the lines
>> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
>> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
>> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
>> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>>
>> Ben Saunders
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a
>> question
>> related to keeping the cars alive.
>>
>> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder
>> portion
>>
>> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
>> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the
>> Austin
>> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this
>> as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Glen Lucas
>>
>> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>>
>>
>>> Hi Warren,
>>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>>
>>> Kent K.
>>>
>>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
>>>> think
>>
>>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) equivalent
>>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Warren
>>>>
>>>> G. Warren Smith
>>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure
>> to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
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> sure
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From anders at xoz.dk Mon Apr 5 13:14:14 2010
From: anders at xoz.dk (anders at xoz.dk)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:14:14 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <F3E2B405AB8647C282F446E1898EEF8E@laptop>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
<D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net>
<4BB86F65.7080708@att.net>
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P? ferie. Hjemme igen 11. April.
From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 14:00:50 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:00:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] registration
Message-ID: <535601216.2196591270490450033.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 14:05:26 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:05:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test #2
Message-ID: <1609508363.2198871270490726832.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Test #2. I did not capitalize Rover_ net
Slats
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From rovernet at shaw.ca Mon Apr 5 14:07:37 2010
From: rovernet at shaw.ca (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:07:37 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] registration
In-Reply-To: <535601216.2196591270490450033.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAA3blxmRk/8Ea9eBHA9KoaDgEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
Slats,
Registered for emergency back-up.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of slatskars at comcast.net
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:01 AM
To: rovernet
Cc: rover_net at yahoo.com
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] registration
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
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From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 14:08:42 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:08:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test #2
In-Reply-To: <1609508363.2198871270490726832.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <177400359.2200191270490922257.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
I guess that I did something wrong on my registration with Yahoo. I keep getting my cc's and messages rejected! Oh well, I give up for now. I need breakfast, blood sugar is low.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: slatskars at comcast.net
To: "rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Cc: "Rover net" <Rover_net at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2010 11:05:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test #2
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Test #2. I did not capitalize Rover_ net
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From DevlinS at bp.com Mon Apr 5 14:27:51 2010
From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor))
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:27:51 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
References: <716732.28108.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15709D237@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com>
Hi Eric,
I received my own message back this time from rovernet_bounces at rovernet.ca but I also received a bounce message from Yahoo groups saying my message would not be accepted because I had not subscribed. So I am now confused as to why my message appeared this time and not the time before from rovernet.ca?
Stewart
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Stewart,
Glen rightfully pointed out in a private email that your post to the list appeared in the archives but it did not come through the server system to my INBOX.
I DID get this message from the Yahoo Groups side......
Thanks for investigating for us.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) <DevlinS at bp.com> wrote:
> From: Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) <DevlinS at bp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Cc: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:35 AM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hi,
>
> I also replied to one of Eric's earlier posts but it did
> not appear, now trying a copy to the Yahoo group to see if
> that works.
>
> Stewart Devlin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> on behalf of Ray Wilkins
> Sent: Mon 05/04/2010 06:56
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hello All,
>
> I did reply to one of Eric's earlier emails but it seems to
> have been
> lost in the ether. However, I do seem to be receiving all
> other posts.
> Does the 'plain text' rule still apply? I now use
> Thunderbird as my
> email client but I have been choosing the plain text
> format. I hope this
> post appears.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ray Wilkins
> Melbourne Australia
>
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From DevlinS at bp.com Mon Apr 5 14:36:53 2010
From: DevlinS at bp.com (Devlin, Stewart (Contractor))
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:36:53 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
References: <716732.28108.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CB789FF3A7FFD944A990968C777DA15709D23C@bp1clais002.bp1.ad.bp.com>
Eric,
I appear to be receiving messages addressed to rovernet at roverenet.ca "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts" from rovernet_bounces at rovernet.ca, my last reply appeared but my first one did not. You say that you received my message via Yahoo Groups but I received a bounce message back from them saying it would not be delivered because I had not subscribed.
Confused!
Stewart
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca on behalf of Eric Russell
Sent: Mon 05/04/2010 17:05
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Cc: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Stewart,
Glen rightfully pointed out in a private email that your post to the list appeared in the archives but it did not come through the server system to my INBOX.
I DID get this message from the Yahoo Groups side......
Thanks for investigating for us.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) <DevlinS at bp.com> wrote:
> From: Devlin, Stewart (Contractor) <DevlinS at bp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Cc: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:35 AM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hi,
>
> I also replied to one of Eric's earlier posts but it did
> not appear, now trying a copy to the Yahoo group to see if
> that works.
>
> Stewart Devlin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> on behalf of Ray Wilkins
> Sent: Mon 05/04/2010 06:56
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Trouble
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hello All,
>
> I did reply to one of Eric's earlier emails but it seems to
> have been
> lost in the ether. However, I do seem to be receiving all
> other posts.
> Does the 'plain text' rule still apply? I now use
> Thunderbird as my
> email client but I have been choosing the plain text
> format. I hope this
> post appears.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ray Wilkins
> Melbourne Australia
>
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> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 17:59:37 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:59:37 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SPAM filters vs ISP blacklisting
In-Reply-To: <B263CD0849EEED4496950A6F1247AB6C074035@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root>
References: <708443.98671.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4BB7778E.30907@comcast.net>
<B263CD0849EEED4496950A6F1247AB6C074035@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root>
Message-ID: <4BBA5D49.3050706@comcast.net>
Micahael Lewis' post quoted below makes a good point.
I think it is useful to make a distinction between SPAM software and ISP
blacklisting done by heavy-duty IT people at your ISP. I'm sure others
on the list know more about this than I do, but here are the basics.
SPAM software is usually something that the customer has control of
regardless of whether it is installed on your home computer or on the
remote computers of your Internet Service Provider (like Comcast) or
your online email service (like Gmail or Yahoo mail). I can go into my
Comcast account settings and turn the SPAM filtering completely off
(which I have done). I have NO user-installed anti-virus software on my
computer because my operating system is Linux, which does not have a lot
of security holes (like Windows) that have to be plugged by an add-on
program. Bored yet?
I have no SPAM filters in operation, and Michael Lewis (who works for a
government agency) has plenty of SPAM protection he cannot turn off.
Michael seems to get all of his Rovernet messages in spite of this SPAM
protection, but I get my messages intermittently with no SPAM software
in use.
The other mechanism to block incoming service is something your Internet
Service Provider (ISP) does behind the scenes that you have no control
over. Your ISP may BLACKLIST any number of outside entities from
connecting with their computers. These will usually be sites that are
known to be hackers, attack sites or sites that might otherwise do
damage to the ISP's system. These sites are blocked not by domain name
(such as the Rovernet domain rovernet.ca). They are blocked by IP
address (something like 194.163.2.1).
I have a Gmail account subscribed to Rovernet. About half the messages
go into the SPAM folder, but messages in the SPAM folder can be view,
read or moved to another folder. You can also "educate" the SPAM filter
to let messages like them go directly to the inbox.
If the IP address sending messages is BLACKLISTED by the ISP, it will
never get to the SPAM filter to be blocked. Since an IP address is
either blocked or nor blocked, the delivery of Rovernet messages should
not be intermittent. Furthermore, if Rovernet messages are being blocked
by a variety of ISPs, they would ALL have to be blacklisting the
Rovernet ISP. Since the Rovernet is not a malicious entity, it is
probably not INTENTIONALLY blacklisted by ANY ISP.
This leaves three possibilities that Eric is trying to track down:
1. The MAILMAN software that performs the entire mailing list operation
is somehow corrupted and not functioning properly. (possible, but not
all that likely)
2. The server where MAILMAN is installed is not functioning reliably
(not likely).
3. The manner in which the Rovernet's MAILMAN software is installed on
the server and the way server is configured is making it difficult or
impossible for the ISP blacklisting filters to determine whether or not
the Rovernet IP address is from a potentially hazardous computer. (most
likely, in my opinion).
Based upon my limited knowledge of IT matters, I think that the
Rovernet's MAILMAN software may need to be reinstalled on another server
(remote computer) to solve this problem. This would probably result in a
temporary, though brief, interruption of the Rovernet service. Eric has
to decide whether or not this is necessary. If such a big move proves
necessary, Eric has to decide whether to stay with MAILMAN or change
over to a simpler and possibly more up to date method of providing the
same Rovernet functionality we all enjoy.
Since the Rovernet is a Rover Car Club of Canada operation, Eric needs
to consult with the other club officers. Since there are other web
services (such as websites) on the present server, Eric needs to choose
the best solution both in terms of continuing a reliable Rovernet and
not disrupting any other web-based services he is responsible for.
If you ARE one of the people having problem with Rovernet reception,
please stay in touch and remain active. If not for Eric or yourself or
Roverdom, then do it for me. This is the only mailing list with low
enough membership standards to have not thrown me off yet, and my email
box might always be empty without Rovernet. ;-)
GRW
Lewis, Joseph (Michael) wrote:
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> For what it's worth, I'm experiencing no problems with the Rovernet. I'm
> getting all the stuff you guys write and responses and I know we have
> heavy spam filters here at WSSC.
>
> J. Michael Lewis
>
> WSSC
> 14501 Sweitzer Lane
> Laurel MD 20707
> 301.206.7054
> fax 301.206.7110
> (c) 240.687.8055
> jlewis at wsscwater.com
>
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 18:09:57 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SPAM filters vs ISP blacklisting
In-Reply-To: <4BBA5D49.3050706@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <844389.1112.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
We're just going out so I will read this message when I return.
I searched an IP blocking search site and found them following (my notes follow).
*******************************
Results of 64.91.237.2 [Rovernet.ca IP]
Blocking List Websites
ordb.org Not Available
spamcop.net 64.91.237.2 not listed in bl.spamcop.net
spamhaus.org Not Available
cbl.abuseat.org ip address 64.91.237.2 is not currently listed in the cbl.
spambag.org Not Available
wpbl.pc9.org wpbl database record for ip 64.91.237.2 (lookup another)
bl.csma.biz the host 64.91.237.2 has never been listed
spam-rbl.com Not Available
dnsbl.burnt-tech.com 64.91.237.2 was not found in the dnsbl.
*******************************
I then went to "Spamcop" and "Spamhaus" particularly and rechecked the IP address of <rovernet.ca>. Our IP address is not on any hit list of Spamming sites.
My research continues........
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SPAM filters vs ISP blacklisting
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:59 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Micahael Lewis' post quoted below makes a good point.
>
> I think it is useful to make a distinction between SPAM
> software and ISP blacklisting done by heavy-duty IT people
> at your ISP. I'm sure others on the list know more about
> this than I do, but here are the basics. SPAM software is
> usually something that the customer has control of
> regardless of whether it is installed on your home computer
> or on the remote computers of your Internet Service Provider
> (like Comcast) or your online email service (like Gmail or
> Yahoo mail). I can go into my Comcast account settings and
> turn the SPAM filtering completely off (which I have done).
> I have NO user-installed anti-virus software on my computer
> because my operating system is Linux, which does not have a
> lot of security holes (like Windows) that have to be plugged
> by an add-on program.? Bored yet?
>
> I have no SPAM filters in operation, and Michael Lewis (who
> works for a government agency) has plenty of SPAM protection
> he cannot turn off. Michael seems to get all of his Rovernet
> messages in spite of this SPAM protection, but I get my
> messages intermittently with no SPAM software in use.
>
> The other mechanism to block incoming service is something
> your Internet Service Provider (ISP) does behind the scenes
> that you have no control over. Your ISP may BLACKLIST any
> number of outside entities from connecting with their
> computers. These will usually be sites that are known to be
> hackers, attack sites or sites that might otherwise do
> damage to the ISP's system. These sites are blocked not by
> domain name (such as the Rovernet domain rovernet.ca). They
> are blocked by IP address (something like 194.163.2.1).
>
> I have a Gmail account subscribed to Rovernet. About half
> the messages go into the SPAM folder,? but messages in
> the SPAM folder can be view, read or moved to another
> folder. You can also "educate" the SPAM filter to let
> messages like them go directly to the inbox.
>
> If the IP address sending messages is BLACKLISTED by the
> ISP, it will never get to the SPAM filter to be blocked.
> Since an IP address is either blocked or nor blocked, the
> delivery of Rovernet messages should not be intermittent.
> Furthermore, if Rovernet messages are being blocked by a
> variety of ISPs, they would ALL have to be blacklisting the
> Rovernet ISP. Since the Rovernet is not a malicious entity,
> it is probably not INTENTIONALLY blacklisted by ANY ISP.
>
> This leaves three possibilities that Eric is trying to
> track down:
>
> 1. The MAILMAN software that performs the entire mailing
> list operation is somehow corrupted and not functioning
> properly. (possible, but not all that likely)
> 2. The server where MAILMAN is installed is not?
> functioning reliably (not likely).
> 3. The manner in which the Rovernet's MAILMAN software is
> installed on the server and the way server is configured is
> making it difficult or impossible for the ISP blacklisting
> filters to determine whether or not the Rovernet IP address
> is from a potentially hazardous computer. (most likely, in
> my opinion).
>
> Based upon my limited knowledge of IT matters, I think that
> the Rovernet's MAILMAN software may need to be reinstalled
> on another server (remote computer) to solve this problem.
> This would probably result in a temporary, though brief,
> interruption of the Rovernet service. Eric has to decide
> whether or not this is necessary. If such a big move proves
> necessary, Eric has to decide whether to stay with MAILMAN
> or change over to a simpler and possibly more up to date
> method of providing the same Rovernet functionality we all
> enjoy.
>
> Since the Rovernet is a Rover Car Club of Canada operation,
> Eric needs to consult with the other club officers. Since
> there are other web services (such as websites) on the
> present server, Eric needs to choose the best solution both
> in terms of continuing a reliable Rovernet and not
> disrupting any other web-based services he is responsible
> for.
>
> If you ARE one of the people having problem with Rovernet
> reception, please stay in touch and remain active. If not
> for Eric or yourself or Roverdom, then do it for me. This is
> the only mailing list with low enough membership standards
> to have not thrown me off yet, and my email box might always
> be empty without Rovernet.???;-)
>
> GRW
>
> Lewis, Joseph (Michael) wrote:
> > Please also join the back-up group at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> > AND then send a CC: copy to:
> > Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> > to test this system.
> > *
> > *
> > For what it's worth, I'm experiencing no problems with
> the Rovernet. I'm
> > getting all the stuff you guys write and responses and
> I know we have
> > heavy spam filters here at WSSC.
> >
> > J. Michael Lewis
> >
> > WSSC
> > 14501 Sweitzer Lane
> > Laurel MD???20707
> > 301.206.7054
> > fax 301.206.7110
> > (c) 240.687.8055
> > jlewis at wsscwater.com
> >???
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 20:16:00 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:16:00 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SPAM filters vs ISP
blacklisting
In-Reply-To: <844389.1112.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <844389.1112.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BBA7D40.4010805@comcast.net>
Eric Russell wrote:
> We're just going out so I will read this message when I return.
> I searched an IP blocking search site and found them following (my notes follow).
> *******************************
> Results of 64.91.237.2 [Rovernet.ca IP]
>
I'll contact the guy I spoke to at Comcast with this IP address and
confirm whether or not there has been any blocking going on there.
> Blocking List Websites
> ordb.org Not Available
> spamcop.net 64.91.237.2 not listed in bl.spamcop.net
> spamhaus.org Not Available
> cbl.abuseat.org ip address 64.91.237.2 is not currently listed in the cbl.
> spambag.org Not Available
> wpbl.pc9.org wpbl database record for ip 64.91.237.2 (lookup another)
> bl.csma.biz the host 64.91.237.2 has never been listed
> spam-rbl.com Not Available
> dnsbl.burnt-tech.com 64.91.237.2 was not found in the dnsbl.
> *******************************
> I then went to "Spamcop" and "Spamhaus" particularly and rechecked the IP address of <rovernet.ca>. Our IP address is not on any hit list of Spamming sites.
>
> My research continues........
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
> --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SPAM filters vs ISP blacklisting
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Received: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:59 PM
>> Please also join the back-up group
>> at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>> AND then send a CC: copy to:
>> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>> to test this system.
>> *
>> *
>> Micahael Lewis' post quoted below makes a good point.
>>
>> I think it is useful to make a distinction between SPAM
>> software and ISP blacklisting done by heavy-duty IT people
>> at your ISP. I'm sure others on the list know more about
>> this than I do, but here are the basics. SPAM software is
>> usually something that the customer has control of
>> regardless of whether it is installed on your home computer
>> or on the remote computers of your Internet Service Provider
>> (like Comcast) or your online email service (like Gmail or
>> Yahoo mail). I can go into my Comcast account settings and
>> turn the SPAM filtering completely off (which I have done).
>> I have NO user-installed anti-virus software on my computer
>> because my operating system is Linux, which does not have a
>> lot of security holes (like Windows) that have to be plugged
>> by an add-on program. Bored yet?
>>
>> I have no SPAM filters in operation, and Michael Lewis (who
>> works for a government agency) has plenty of SPAM protection
>> he cannot turn off. Michael seems to get all of his Rovernet
>> messages in spite of this SPAM protection, but I get my
>> messages intermittently with no SPAM software in use.
>>
>> The other mechanism to block incoming service is something
>> your Internet Service Provider (ISP) does behind the scenes
>> that you have no control over. Your ISP may BLACKLIST any
>> number of outside entities from connecting with their
>> computers. These will usually be sites that are known to be
>> hackers, attack sites or sites that might otherwise do
>> damage to the ISP's system. These sites are blocked not by
>> domain name (such as the Rovernet domain rovernet.ca). They
>> are blocked by IP address (something like 194.163.2.1).
>>
>> I have a Gmail account subscribed to Rovernet. About half
>> the messages go into the SPAM folder, but messages in
>> the SPAM folder can be view, read or moved to another
>> folder. You can also "educate" the SPAM filter to let
>> messages like them go directly to the inbox.
>>
>> If the IP address sending messages is BLACKLISTED by the
>> ISP, it will never get to the SPAM filter to be blocked.
>> Since an IP address is either blocked or nor blocked, the
>> delivery of Rovernet messages should not be intermittent.
>> Furthermore, if Rovernet messages are being blocked by a
>> variety of ISPs, they would ALL have to be blacklisting the
>> Rovernet ISP. Since the Rovernet is not a malicious entity,
>> it is probably not INTENTIONALLY blacklisted by ANY ISP.
>>
>> This leaves three possibilities that Eric is trying to
>> track down:
>>
>> 1. The MAILMAN software that performs the entire mailing
>> list operation is somehow corrupted and not functioning
>> properly. (possible, but not all that likely)
>> 2. The server where MAILMAN is installed is not
>> functioning reliably (not likely).
>> 3. The manner in which the Rovernet's MAILMAN software is
>> installed on the server and the way server is configured is
>> making it difficult or impossible for the ISP blacklisting
>> filters to determine whether or not the Rovernet IP address
>> is from a potentially hazardous computer. (most likely, in
>> my opinion).
>>
>> Based upon my limited knowledge of IT matters, I think that
>> the Rovernet's MAILMAN software may need to be reinstalled
>> on another server (remote computer) to solve this problem.
>> This would probably result in a temporary, though brief,
>> interruption of the Rovernet service. Eric has to decide
>> whether or not this is necessary. If such a big move proves
>> necessary, Eric has to decide whether to stay with MAILMAN
>> or change over to a simpler and possibly more up to date
>> method of providing the same Rovernet functionality we all
>> enjoy.
>>
>> Since the Rovernet is a Rover Car Club of Canada operation,
>> Eric needs to consult with the other club officers. Since
>> there are other web services (such as websites) on the
>> present server, Eric needs to choose the best solution both
>> in terms of continuing a reliable Rovernet and not
>> disrupting any other web-based services he is responsible
>> for.
>>
>> If you ARE one of the people having problem with Rovernet
>> reception, please stay in touch and remain active. If not
>> for Eric or yourself or Roverdom, then do it for me. This is
>> the only mailing list with low enough membership standards
>> to have not thrown me off yet, and my email box might always
>> be empty without Rovernet. ;-)
>>
>> GRW
>>
>> Lewis, Joseph (Michael) wrote:
>>
>>> Please also join the back-up group at:
>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>> AND then send a CC: copy to:
>>> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>>> to test this system.
>>> *
>>> *
>>> For what it's worth, I'm experiencing no problems with
>>>
>> the Rovernet. I'm
>>
>>> getting all the stuff you guys write and responses and
>>>
>> I know we have
>>
>>> heavy spam filters here at WSSC.
>>>
>>> J. Michael Lewis
>>>
>>> WSSC
>>> 14501 Sweitzer Lane
>>> Laurel MD 20707
>>> 301.206.7054
>>> fax 301.206.7110
>>> (c) 240.687.8055
>>> jlewis at wsscwater.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
>> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>
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From anders at xoz.dk Mon Apr 5 20:16:17 2010
From: anders at xoz.dk (anders at xoz.dk)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:16:17 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SPAM filters vs
ISP blacklisting
In-Reply-To: <4BBA7D40.4010805@comcast.net>
References: <844389.1112.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4BBA7D40.4010805@comcast.net>
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P? ferie. Hjemme igen 11. April.
From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 20:19:16 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:19:16 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test - ignore
Message-ID: <4BBA7E04.4010800@comcast.net>
Test
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon Apr 5 23:23:12 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:23:12 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SPAM filters vs
ISP blacklisting
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On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:16:17 +0200, you wrote:
>P? ferie. Hjemme igen 11. April.
For those who cant speak Danish:
On vacation. Home again 11th April.
Peter the Great Dane
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 01:07:57 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:07:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SPAM filters vs ISP
blacklisting
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The great Dane will need to work with the Rovernet info page when he returns :-)
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] SPAM filters vs ISP blacklisting
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Cc: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, April 5, 2010, 8:23 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
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> AND then send a CC: copy to:
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> *
> *
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:16:17 +0200, you wrote:
>
> >P? ferie. Hjemme igen 11. April.
> For those who cant speak Danish:
> On vacation. Home again 11th April.
>
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Tue Apr 6 01:46:35 2010
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:46:35 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2010 Ride to Conquer Cancer
Message-ID: <34B36894-61EF-401E-AEE4-AE7B4176127C@telusplanet.net>
Fellow Rovernetters,
I am participating in this years ride to conquer cancer in Alberta's
majestic foothills on June 26 and 27th.
I will be cycling about 200 km over two days to raise funds for the
Alberta Cancer Foundation.
Funds raised through The Ride will directly support patients and
families at the Tom Baker Cancer Centre in Calgary,
the Cross Cancer Institute in Edmonton and 15 cancer centres
throughout Alberta. The Alberta Cancer Foundation provides
funding to a team of top doctors and scientists whose search for new
discoveries and improved patient outcomes will
have a real impact across Canada, and around the world.
I have set a modest goal to raise $3,000.00. So far I am almost
halfway there.
If anyone could make a donation towards this great cause, please click
on the link to my donation page:
https://secure2.convio.net/cfrca/site/Donation2?idb=57806651&df_id=1322&FR_ID=1332&PROXY_ID=2242600&1322.donation=form1&PROXY_TYPE=20&JServSessionIdr004=lp8bhju393.app209b
With sincere thanks;
Roy Babiuk
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From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Apr 6 04:44:00 2010
From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:44:00 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] BACK UP LIST
References: <546909.57450.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FCD4664F3FE74E63BA8DCA98528286DF@SN037535920331>
Hi Eric
I have sent in a request to join the back up list but seeing as I already
have a yahoo ID, instead of p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk it will appear as
P6estateman.
Cheers
Warmest regards
Mark
From bsaunders at firstva.com Tue Apr 6 08:45:18 2010
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:45:18 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <F3E2B405AB8647C282F446E1898EEF8E@laptop>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net><B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop><D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1><485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop><429B140EE7FB47EAB6042CBB0DA78240@SD1>
<F3E2B405AB8647C282F446E1898EEF8E@laptop>
Message-ID: <675058542C02412F99431BC6CBA73736@SD1>
Hey Glen,
Did you take a look at the servo on Ebay? If you wish I can send you a photo
of the one I have in my 1960 Rover 100. It works very well.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Glen Lucas
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:14 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Hi Ben,
It is LHD with the master under the frame member.
Thanks,
Glen L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Glen,
> Is the car RHD or LHD and is the master cylinder under the frame cross
> member or is it the type that is on the firewall?
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:20 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> Thanks Ben,
>
> Moss Motors show a Lockheed replacement for the Girling system used in the
> Healey 3000. I am pretty sure they are compatible. However, Moss charges
> $400 and when we add freight and brokerage the cost gets a bit high. JRW
> will rebuild the Girling for about the same price. Again, plus shipping
> etc.
>
> The piece is very simple and I suspect anyone who has worked with leather
> will be able to make one. The key is to build a press to form the leather
> into a cup. Very much the same process as making shoes. The original
> from
> my car is in one piece and has just gotten soft from contact with brake
> fluid. If I cannot find someone else to supply, I think I will try to
> make
> one before putting down that kind of money. Necessity is the mother of
> invention, after all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen Lucas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
>
>> Hi Glen,
>> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
>> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the lines
>> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
>> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
>> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
>> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>>
>> Ben Saunders
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a
>> question
>> related to keeping the cars alive.
>>
>> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder
>> portion
>>
>> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
>> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the
>> Austin
>> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this
>> as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Glen Lucas
>>
>> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>>
>>
>>> Hi Warren,
>>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>>
>>> Kent K.
>>>
>>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
>>>> think
>>
>>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA) equivalent
>>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Warren
>>>>
>>>> G. Warren Smith
>>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure
>> to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
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>
>
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> sure
> to scroll down the whole page.
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>
>
>
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> sure to scroll down the whole page.
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to scroll down the whole page.
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 12:47:57 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:47:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
Message-ID: <332972.41346.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
I can't recall if I've asked this question here before, but I'm reassembling my P6 rear calipers and am wondering what to use for lubing the self adjuster mechanism, handbrake mech, etc.
I'm thinking either that silglide stuff used to lube the sliding pins on modern calipers (I think it's some combo of moly and silicone greases) or regular anti-sieze compound.
Any opinions?
Nathan
From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Apr 6 13:07:10 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:07:10 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
In-Reply-To: <332972.41346.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <332972.41346.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1BDE3DE6-606E-496A-ACF6-759BEB064778@inkspotco.com>
High moly grease, like Molylube. It needs to be quite stiff. Do not use anything with silicone in it. Did you get a proper rebuild kit with a Girling instruction sheet? The sheet shows what points need lube on them.
Yours
Vern
On 2010-04-06, at 9:47 AM, Nathan Obuch wrote:
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> I can't recall if I've asked this question here before, but I'm reassembling my P6 rear calipers and am wondering what to use for lubing the self adjuster mechanism, handbrake mech, etc.
>
> I'm thinking either that silglide stuff used to lube the sliding pins on modern calipers (I think it's some combo of moly and silicone greases) or regular anti-sieze compound.
>
> Any opinions?
>
> Nathan
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
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From gwlucas at granite.mb.ca Tue Apr 6 14:14:57 2010
From: gwlucas at granite.mb.ca (Glen Lucas)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:14:57 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
In-Reply-To: <675058542C02412F99431BC6CBA73736@SD1>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net><4BB86F65.7080708@att.net><B6BF8E29D5674E16B5098E9361C93225@laptop><D737D0E559A543EEA298FF10F0456E15@SD1><485D5EAD3D7340439E56CB77311CE7D0@laptop><429B140EE7FB47EAB6042CBB0DA78240@SD1><F3E2B405AB8647C282F446E1898EEF8E@laptop>
<675058542C02412F99431BC6CBA73736@SD1>
Message-ID: <E218F7F1B083433AB8BB05F75E3B22BD@laptop>
Thank you, but, no I did not see the servo on EBay. I will look.
However, I decided to try building the needed part. I now have original
girling working power brakes in my car at a with the input from all of you,
a friend of mine who runs a shoe factory, $5.00 in leather and some
carpentry skills to make the mold.
What an awarding experience. This is what the hobby is all about for me.
Pushing the limits of my own skills and trying to "Do it myself"
Regards,
Glen L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hey Glen,
> Did you take a look at the servo on Ebay? If you wish I can send you a
> photo
> of the one I have in my 1960 Rover 100. It works very well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:14 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hi Ben,
>
> It is LHD with the master under the frame member.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glen L.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>
>
>> Please also join the back-up group at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>> AND then send a CC: copy to:
>> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>> to test this system.
>> *
>> *
>> Glen,
>> Is the car RHD or LHD and is the master cylinder under the frame cross
>> member or is it the type that is on the firewall?
>> Ben
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:20 PM
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>>
>> Please also join the back-up group at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>> AND then send a CC: copy to:
>> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
>> to test this system.
>> Thanks Ben,
>>
>> Moss Motors show a Lockheed replacement for the Girling system used in
>> the
>> Healey 3000. I am pretty sure they are compatible. However, Moss
>> charges
>> $400 and when we add freight and brokerage the cost gets a bit high. JRW
>> will rebuild the Girling for about the same price. Again, plus shipping
>> etc.
>>
>> The piece is very simple and I suspect anyone who has worked with leather
>> will be able to make one. The key is to build a press to form the
>> leather
>> into a cup. Very much the same process as making shoes. The original
>> from
>> my car is in one piece and has just gotten soft from contact with brake
>> fluid. If I cannot find someone else to supply, I think I will try to
>> make
>> one before putting down that kind of money. Necessity is the mother of
>> invention, after all.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Glen Lucas
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
>> To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>>
>>
>>> Hi Glen,
>>> I used a later designed remote booster in my 1960 Rover 100 and it works
>>> very well. I had to make a mounting bracket and re-rout some of the
>>> lines
>>> but it was not a lot of trouble and the booster cost less than trying to
>>> repair the original one. Here is an example that is on Ebay item
>>> #110504810699 at a buy now of $270 USD. Try J R Wadhams to see what a
>>> rebuild kit will cost at http://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/home.htm.
>>>
>>> Ben Saunders
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Glen Lucas
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:51 AM
>>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
>>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P4 100 Brake servo
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> At the risk of loosing this comment in the sea of tests, I have a
>>> question
>>> related to keeping the cars alive.
>>>
>>> The leather boot forming the seal in the vacuum canister or cylinder
>>> portion
>>>
>>> of the brake servo in my P4 needs replacement. Have any of you found a
>>> source? I do know the same servo set up and size was used in the
>>> Austin
>>> Healey line as well as the Rover. Perhaps other British cars used this
>>> as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Glen Lucas
>>>
>>> P.S. I have received many posts over the last several days.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net>
>>> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
>>> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Warren,
>>>> I will check Monday. I may have one.
>>>>
>>>> Kent K.
>>>>
>>>> G. Warren Smith wrote:
>>>>> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
>>>>> think
>>>
>>>>> I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in the
>>>>> confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA)
>>>>> equivalent
>>>>> or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren
>>>>>
>>>>> G. Warren Smith
>>>>> 101 Ayyar Court
>>>>> Slippery Rock, PA 16057
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure
>>> to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
>> sure
>> to scroll down the whole page.
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
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>
>
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> sure
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 14:31:20 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:31:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
In-Reply-To: <1BDE3DE6-606E-496A-ACF6-759BEB064778@inkspotco.com>
Message-ID: <828811.3291.qm@web110303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Vern,
I got my kit from Ruth @ ABC-- no instructions. However, the car came with several old partial kits (missing various seals) and the Girling instructions. I was thinking of scanning them to share with others- would that be helpful? Perhaps post them in the Roverview or on the club site?
I'll use Molylube grease.
Thanks!
Nathan
--- On Tue, 4/6/10, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 12:07 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> High moly grease, like Molylube. It needs to be quite
> stiff. Do not use anything with silicone in it. Did you get
> a proper rebuild kit with a Girling instruction sheet? The
> sheet shows what points need lube on them.
>
> Yours
> Vern
> On 2010-04-06, at 9:47 AM, Nathan Obuch wrote:
>
> > Please also join the back-up group at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
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> > to test this system.
> > *
> > *
> > I can't recall if I've asked this question here
> before, but I'm reassembling my P6 rear calipers and am
> wondering what to use for lubing the self adjuster
> mechanism, handbrake mech, etc.
> >
> > I'm thinking either that silglide stuff used to lube
> the sliding pins on modern calipers (I think it's some combo
> of moly and silicone greases) or regular anti-sieze
> compound.
> >
> > Any opinions?
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Inkspot Type & Design??? 250 864
> 5619??? in at inkspotco.com
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Tue Apr 6 17:27:11 2010
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:27:11 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP73015683F8A8E59D5526DC911A0@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.175.1270324407.13267.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <D1.CC.02127.75AD7BB4@cm-1.zoominternet.net>
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Think I got a replacement from Dermot Harvey. Dermot?
AvMedSafe
Geff and Julie McCarthy
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Portland OR 97210
503-241-8468
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-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Magnet
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:53 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oil Pressure Sender
I'd be interested in the collective wisdom on this as well. When the
sender on my P6B failed, I went through all the replacements on the
shelf at Canadian Tire and could not find anything that was a physical
match, let alone electrical. The Rover item has what is effectively a
bolt thread, while all the replacements had either a 1/8 or 1/4 inch
pipe thread. In the end, I used some sort of adapter to mate the
threads. Electrically, putting about 68 ohms in series with the sender
gave the correct readings, but your mileage may vary, as they say,
depending on the particular sender you use.
I seem to recall having the same problem with my '73 Series III Land
Rover. It would be interesting to see if the LR uses the same sender as
the P6B.
Cheers,
-- Bill Daddis
==============================================
G. Warren Smith wrote:
> I need a new sender for the oil pressure gauge for my 1970 3500S. I
> think I damaged my "Smiths" replacement trying to screw it tight in
> the confined space available. Is there a readily available (USA)
> equivalent or a best option for finding the appropriate part?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Warren
>
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From KG at dolby.com Tue Apr 6 17:59:45 2010
From: KG at dolby.com (Gundry, Kenneth)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:59:45 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] No problems
In-Reply-To: <4BB3C4DE.3050903@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <05BB196AB3DA6C4BBE11AB6C957581FE26F59FA8@sfo-exch-01.dolby.net>
I only look at Rovernet occasionally, but today found that there were 90+ messages since I last looked, many about problems. So for what it's worth, I seem to have no problem. I would prefer not to change to something run by Yahoo.
Ken Gundry, 1925 Rover 16/50 (San Francisco)
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Glen Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, 31 March, 2010 2:56 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.; Eric Russell
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] No messages
I have to go to the archives to see what's going on with Rovernet. I am not receiving messages, again, and don't know if this one will go through.
Glen
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 18:05:44 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] No problems
In-Reply-To: <05BB196AB3DA6C4BBE11AB6C957581FE26F59FA8@sfo-exch-01.dolby.net>
Message-ID: <379021.82008.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Ken,
I agree with you about Yahoo. That would be a last resort for me.
There are some suggestions being developed to present to the RCCC annual general meeting on April 17.
The funds from RCCC membership run the Rovernet through the present service. We might be able to improve the situation but we need to consider some options at the AGM. The more members we have the more options we have.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Tue, 4/6/10, Gundry, Kenneth <KG at dolby.com> wrote:
> From: Gundry, Kenneth <KG at dolby.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] No problems
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 2:59 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> I only look at Rovernet occasionally, but today found that
> there were 90+ messages since I last looked, many about
> problems.? So for what it's worth, I seem to have no
> problem.? I would prefer not to change to something run
> by Yahoo.
>
> Ken Gundry, 1925 Rover 16/50 (San Francisco)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On Behalf Of Glen Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, 31 March, 2010 2:56 PM
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.; Eric
> Russell
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] No messages
>
> I have to go to the archives to see what's going on with
> Rovernet. I am not receiving messages, again, and don't know
> if this one will go through.
>
> Glen
>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Tue Apr 6 20:24:42 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:24:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
In-Reply-To: <828811.3291.qm@web110303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <94080797.2875361270599882015.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Nathan,
I for one would like to see a copy in the Rover View.
Slats
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 23:03:37 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:03:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
In-Reply-To: <94080797.2875361270599882015.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <754052.25016.qm@web110301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Slats,
I scanned them in tonight (it's 3 PDF files.) I'll send them to you directly and the offer still stands if anyone wants to host them (RCCC site? include in the Roverview, etc.)
Nathan
--- On Tue, 4/6/10, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 7:24 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Nathan,
>
> I for one would like to see a copy in the Rover View.
>
> Slats
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Wed Apr 7 00:23:07 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:23:07 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
In-Reply-To: <754052.25016.qm@web110301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <94080797.2875361270599882015.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
<754052.25016.qm@web110301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <uk1or5dbj6d17m9v62nqpot6f93qbdnicc@4ax.com>
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:03:37 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>
>I scanned them in tonight (it's 3 PDF files.) I'll send them to you directly and the offer still stands if anyone wants to host them (RCCC site? include in the Roverview, etc.)
Sounds just the sort of thing to file on our (backup) Yahoo Group web
site.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/files/
Cheers,
Peter H
From slatskars at comcast.net Wed Apr 7 00:56:20 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:56:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
In-Reply-To: <754052.25016.qm@web110301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1106497935.2969481270616180226.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Thanks Nathan,
I have yet to tackle the brakes on my P-5. Never messed with a power booster. Always willing to learn something new, but a guide does help.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Obuch" <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2010 8:03:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Slats,
I scanned them in tonight (it's 3 PDF files.) I'll send them to you directly and the offer still stands if anyone wants to host them (RCCC site? include in the Roverview, etc.)
Nathan
--- On Tue, 4/6/10, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 7:24 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Nathan,
>
> I for one would like to see a copy in the Rover View.
>
> Slats
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 01:55:29 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:55:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
In-Reply-To: <754052.25016.qm@web110301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <120147.85026.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Send them along. Let's have a look.
p6rovers at yahoo.com
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Tue, 4/6/10, Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 8:03 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Slats,
>
> I scanned them in tonight (it's 3 PDF files.) I'll send
> them to you directly and the offer still stands if anyone
> wants to host them (RCCC site? include in the Roverview,
> etc.)
>
> Nathan
>
> --- On Tue, 4/6/10, slatskars at comcast.net
> <slatskars at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > From: slatskars at comcast.net
> <slatskars at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] p6 rear caliper lubrication
> > To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 7:24 PM
> > Please also join the back-up group
> > at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> > AND then send a CC: copy to:
> > Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> > to test this system.
> > *
> > *
> > Nathan,
> >
> > I for one would like to see a copy in the Rover View.
>
> >
> > Slats
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
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From den at aachenkennels.com Wed Apr 7 04:23:09 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:23:09 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Oils ain't Oils
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16082205@Server.adoptsec.local>
Hi Chaps,
The subject line should say 'oils ain't what they used to be' but
thought I would use the catch phrase from an old Ozzy commercial for my
question.
I'm getting to the stage of the Rover special build where I'm shortly
going to start filling the back axel, steering box, gearbox and engine
with oil.
So far I have been advice to use Penrite, Castrol, and Shell helix. And
one that's made by a small company in UK (forgot the name but do know I
will have to sell my granddaughter to buy it. Actually that's not a bad
idea might get enough money to finish the car).
Anyway what would the world of Rover people have to suggest on what to
use?
Forgot to say it's for a 1946 car with a 47 16HP engine and gearbox.
BTW sent this over to the RSR forum to see what they suggest.
Kind Regards.
Den Gallacher
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed Apr 7 04:48:32 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:48:32 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Oils ain't Oils
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References: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16082205@Server.adoptsec.local>
Message-ID: <A7CEFC871A4B4EDF9D86578C018A410C@Vista>
Avoid a thin oil since the oil pump and galleries are designed for thick.
20W50 ot 20W60 is fine.
Royce always used Shell oils (including in P2A), I'd say the basic Helix
would be fine.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com>
To: <RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au>
Cc: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:23 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Oils ain't Oils
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hi Chaps,
>
> The subject line should say 'oils ain't what they used to be' but
> thought I would use the catch phrase from an old Ozzy commercial for my
> question.
>
>
>
> I'm getting to the stage of the Rover special build where I'm shortly
> going to start filling the back axel, steering box, gearbox and engine
> with oil.
>
>
>
> So far I have been advice to use Penrite, Castrol, and Shell helix. And
> one that's made by a small company in UK (forgot the name but do know I
> will have to sell my granddaughter to buy it. Actually that's not a bad
> idea might get enough money to finish the car).
>
> Anyway what would the world of Rover people have to suggest on what to
> use?
>
>
>
> Forgot to say it's for a 1946 car with a 47 16HP engine and gearbox.
>
>
>
>
>
> BTW sent this over to the RSR forum to see what they suggest.
>
> Kind Regards.
>
> Den Gallacher
>
>
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 12:37:26 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:37:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rover_net] FW: P3 RV8
Message-ID: <80096.6664.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Peter is right.
I think the Rover Sports Register has recommended this site to post pictures. You might some more Rover stuff: <http://photobucket.com/>
?
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au> wrote:
From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au>
Subject: Re: [Rover_net] FW: P3 RV8
To: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
Cc: den at aachenkennels.com
Received: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:36 AM
?
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:52:00 +0800, you wrote:
> <<076.jpg>> Hi <<077.jpg>> A <<078.jpg>> ll <<074.jpg>> , <<075.jpg>>
>
>Have a look at the photos of a P3 that turned up at the recent Rove 2010
>in Adelaide.
Dennis,
I think Eric has the group set for no attachments.
Have you got a Photo site? If not why not try to post to the Yahoo
Group file section. Or if you like email them to me and I can put them
on the RCCA Flickr site?
Cheers,
Peter H
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From: erussellrv at yahoo.com (erussellrv at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:49:03 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell wants to share a group album on Photobucket
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erussellrv http://photobucket.com/Rovernet?track=share_email_album_view_click
I wanted share something on Photobucket with you!
If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the
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From: erussellrv at yahoo.com (erussellrv at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:49:04 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell wants to share a group album on Photobucket
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erussellrv http://photobucket.com/Rovernet?track=share_email_album_view_click
I wanted share something on Photobucket with you!
If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the
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From: erussellrv at yahoo.com (erussellrv at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:49:05 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Eric Russell wants to share a group album on Photobucket
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erussellrv http://photobucket.com/Rovernet?track=share_email_album_view_click
I wanted share something on Photobucket with you!
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 12:55:39 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:55:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Posting Photos
Message-ID: <460364.81906.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Here is a place to post photos.
The Group name is "Rovernet".
The password is: Rovernet
erussellrv <http://photobucket.com/Rovernet?track=share_email_album_view_click>
If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following into your browser: <http://gs346.photobucket.com/groups/p429/O9YD2MCZHM/?showNotificationLB=1&track=share_email_album_view_click>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 13:45:40 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:45:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Here is a place to post photos
Message-ID: <604695.27979.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Here is a place to post photos.
The Group name is "Rovernet".
The password is: Rovernet
erussellrv <http://photobucket.com/Rovernet?track=share_email_album_view_click>
If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following into your browser: <http://gs346.photobucket.com/groups/p429/O9YD2MCZHM/?showNotificationLB=1&track=share_email_album_view_click>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Wed Apr 7 15:22:53 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:22:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Oils ain't Oils
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Dennis,
What ever you use, add something like Cam Shield to it to increase the ZDDP level. It is to protect the cams and lifters.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com>
To: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
Cc: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2010 1:23:09 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet ] Oils ain't Oils
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Hi Chaps,
The subject line should say 'oils ain't what they used to be' but
thought I would use the catch phrase from an old Ozzy commercial for my
question.
I'm getting to the stage of the Rover special build where I'm shortly
going to start filling the back axel, steering box, gearbox and engine
with oil.
So far I have been advice to use Penrite, Castrol, and Shell helix. And
one that's made by a small company in UK (forgot the name but do know I
will have to sell my granddaughter to buy it. Actually that's not a bad
idea might get enough money to finish the car).
Anyway what would the world of Rover people have to suggest on what to
use?
Forgot to say it's for a 1946 car with a 47 16HP engine and gearbox.
BTW sent this over to the RSR forum to see what they suggest.
Kind Regards.
Den Gallacher
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Wed Apr 7 17:47:08 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:47:08 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rover_net] Posting Photos
In-Reply-To: <460364.81906.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <460364.81906.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <k7vpr512g371e5vjlslti6upvfgg761s4d@4ax.com>
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:55:39 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>Here is a place to post photos.
>The Group name is "Rovernet".
>The password is: Rovernet
>erussellrv <http://photobucket.com/Rovernet?track=share_email_album_view_click>
In this case though I have put Dennis' pics on our Flickr site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/
The P2 is certainly a lovely car.
Cheers,
Peter H
From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 19:51:59 2010
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:51:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Here is a place to post photos
In-Reply-To: <604695.27979.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <185366.39788.qm@web180502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Thanks Eric, I've posted a few pictures from a while ago. Of course with my Rover, it's still relevent to this day. LOL!
roland
1960 P5
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Here is a place to post photos
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:45 AM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Here is a place to post photos.
> The Group name is "Rovernet".
> The password is:? Rovernet
> erussellrv <http://photobucket.com/Rovernet?track=share_email_album_view_click>
>
>
> If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and
> paste the following into your browser: <http://gs346.photobucket.com/groups/p429/O9YD2MCZHM/?showNotificationLB=1&track=share_email_album_view_click>
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian,
> 1979;
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> 1975
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 19:59:30 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rover_net] FW: P3 RV8
In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608220C@Server.adoptsec.local>
Message-ID: <317261.23498.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi,
The Yahoo Groups back-up list has had a photo album section?since 2005.
Check it out here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/photos/album/0/list
?
It just seemed that some people wanted another way to do it.
?
We don't let the server send attachments. That is a security minefield for mailing lists.
Reference:
http://www.ualberta.ca/~pletendr/list-net.html
Eric
List Admin
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> wrote:
From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com>
Subject: RE: [Rover_net] FW: P3 RV8
To: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:10 PM
?
Good morning all.
Why not set up the Yahoo to accept photos as attachments. I have on the Rover Australia group at Yahoo. Done it for years with no problem and much easier than photo bucket or flicker. There are photos sent around yesterday on a P1 being restored here in Perth using Yahoo.
As said much easier than all that other stuffing around.
Den.
From: Rover_net at yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Rover_net at yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Eric Russell
Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2010 12:37 AM
To: Rover_net at yahoogrou ps.com
Cc: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rover_net] FW: P3 RV8
Peter is right.
I think the Rover Sports Register has recommended this site to post pictures. You might some more Rover stuff: <http://photobucket. com/>
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8. net.au <mailto:peterhut% 40activ8. net.au> > wrote:
From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8. net.au <mailto:peterhut% 40activ8. net.au> >
Subject: Re: [Rover_net] FW: P3 RV8
To: Rover_net at yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Rover_ net%40yahoogroup s.com>
Cc: den at aachenkennels. com <mailto:den% 40aachenkennels. com>
Received: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:36 AM
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:52:00 +0800, you wrote:
> <<076.jpg>> Hi <<077.jpg>> A <<078.jpg>> ll <<074.jpg>> , <<075.jpg>>
>
>Have a look at the photos of a P3 that turned up at the recent Rove 2010
>in Adelaide.
Dennis,
I think Eric has the group set for no attachments.
Have you got a Photo site? If not why not try to post to the Yahoo
Group file section. Or if you like email them to me and I can put them
on the RCCA Flickr site?
Cheers,
Peter H
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From slatskars at comcast.net Thu Apr 8 01:25:11 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:25:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fwd: ROVER 2000TC P6 SEDAN PARTS - $1 (St. Johns)
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A friend forwarded this link to me. This is in Portland, OR if anyone is interested. I can help if a set of local eyes is needed.
Slats
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To: slatskars at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2010 6:44:06 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: ROVER 2000TC P6 SEDAN PARTS - $1 (St. Johns)
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Selling Rover 2000 TC parts :
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From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Thu Apr 8 14:51:13 2010
From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:51:13 EDT
Subject: [Rovernet ] AOL in Australia
Message-ID: <668e2.67ada892.38ef7fa1@aol.com>
Hi All,
Eric and I exchanged messages today where I mentioned that
AOL in Australia is to be closed down on 31 May.
It also appears that in the meantime they are just letting all their
servers run down, I have had a Spam attack and lost all my unsaved email from
16th march to 5th April. I am sending this from an older computer just in
case of bugs.
I learned this from an AOL Techie who I had a long phone conversation
with yesterday Wednesday, while trying to get my email back. It has been
deleted from their server.
In Australia, AOL's "assets " are held by an outfit called Primus, who
apparently are only in the Broadband market. One of their previous little
nasty business practices was to cancel all AOL Accounts without warning. A
Techie I spoke to at that time made a statement to that effect. I also noticed
that BruceRover from Sydney went from AOL to Primus at that time. I won't.
I believe that Primus are based in Melbourne so this will only effect
AOL customers who get their email from those servers. Last time around the
techie told me that they still had 68,000 customers there, don't know about
this time. From the high hopes we had for AOL when it kicked off in Oz 12 -13
years ago, now with Primus it has turned into a complete and absolute
lemon. The latest Techie "Douglas", told me that Primus won't be paying their
licence fee to AOL after May 31. That is why it is all over down under.
Douglas told me a letter had been sent, I am yet to see it. Maybe
Primus can't afford the stamps. Can't understand that though considering the
extra amounts they charged my account during its "Fixed Price Contract".
Anyway, any AOL customers down here on or around my Island, we have
got six weeks. Good Luck.
Regards,
Mark Jones.
P.S. To add insult, I wrote this offline and now I can't even get a
connection. I'll try again in the morning.
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Thu Apr 8 15:51:38 2010
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:51:38 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test
666
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Message-ID: <A1ABA56FB74B41CC85C40EB90013AF15@SD1>
Hey Michael,
Good to hear you are still out there and I hope all is well with you and the
SD1. Your "other car" is kind of nice too. Don't see too many Interceptors
or SD1 around any more. I want to sell my SD1 so let me know if you run
across anyone that might be interested. We hope to make it up to Dirk's this
year and if you are going let me know so we can meet up on the trip. Not
sure if I will have a Rover to make the trip with but it might be a Land
Rover Discovery which is close.
Ben Saunders
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Lewis, Joseph (Michael)
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:30 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
For what it's worth, I'm experiencing no problems with the Rovernet. I'm
getting all the stuff you guys write and responses and I know we have
heavy spam filters here at WSSC.
J. Michael Lewis
WSSC
14501 Sweitzer Lane
Laurel MD 20707
301.206.7054
fax 301.206.7110
(c) 240.687.8055
jlewis at wsscwater.com
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of Glen Wilson
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:15 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Test 1111 Now: Test 666
Eric Russell wrote:
> Glen et al,
> I think I have reached my level of incompetance on this Mailman thing.
> Ref: The Peter Principle
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
>
> Is it time to test out our reserve Mailing List run by Yahoo Groups?
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> What do you think?
>
> Eric
> List Admin
>
Eric, from what I can tell from my research, the Mailman software is not
difficult in terms of routine administration but becomes a very geeky
command-line proposition when one needs to troubleshoot it. So, don't
feel bad if you decide it is more trouble than it is worth, if it's
going to be problems. Your version of Mailman is only one minor revision
behind the absolute newest. At this point, there may be easier ways to
accomplish the same result, and nobody wants you tearing your hair out
if there's no need.
I know Google Groups can perfectly simulate the current list operation
as well as supply a web interface. You know more about Yahoo.
One thing I'm not clear on is how widespread the problems are. I know
you want the list to work for everyone, but is it just a few people like
me who could do work-arounds?
Whatever you choose to do will have my support.
Glen
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 8 21:49:51 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fw: [Rover_net] NatRover 2010
Message-ID: <259441.90385.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Good on ya, mate.
We didn't get where you sent the photos but give us a hint and we have some options.
?
Hope you can get to Dirk's event in Fitchburg, Mass., USA, in June 18 - 21.
It's the largest Rover event in North America, as you probably know.
?
We have a *large* number of RCCC who attend the meet. Hope that record continues.
?
Eric
List Admin
?
?
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Thu, 4/8/10, jimr <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com> wrote:
From: jimr <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Rover_net] NatRover 2010
To: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 6:24 PM
?
I have just up loaded some photos of NatRover 2010, held in Adelaide, over easter. We had about 65 Rovers attend from all over Australia. The weather was great, sunny and dry.
The photo of the red Rover P6 with the bonnet up, shows the additional indentification plate, that is found on the New Zealand produced Rover 3500's.
There is a green 1907 Rover which they got out of the National Motor Museum for us. This car is registered for driving on the road. One attendee parked his 2004 Rover 75 next to it, to take a photo of one of the first Rovers and one of the last Rovers.
We displayed our Rovers down at Wigley Reserve, for all to see. Then we headed up to Carrige Hill, which is a stately home, and appropriate place for Rovers. We also went and visited a winery, and visited the National Motor Museum.
James.
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From raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com Fri Apr 9 01:10:22 2010
From: raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com (Ray Wilkins)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:10:22 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Practical Classics Magazine
Message-ID: <4BBEB6BE.7080808@bigpond.com>
Just to let you know, if you don't already, that the March 2010 edition
of Practical Classics has a buying guide for the Rover P4. I know those
overseas (outside of Australia) may have had this magazine already but
here in Australia we have to wait for the latest clipper ship to arrive
from old blighty and they are one down since the Cutty Sark was burnt down!
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From rovernet at shaw.ca Fri Apr 9 01:26:19 2010
From: rovernet at shaw.ca (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:26:19 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Practical Classics Magazine
In-Reply-To: <4BBEB6BE.7080808@bigpond.com>
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Good one...... Ray.
We have similar experience with the mail leaving here, going north by dog
sled to Alaska, Siberia, across northern Russia, and down Scandanavia to
London. :-)
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Ray Wilkins
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:10 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.;
RoverCarClubAust at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Rovernet ] Practical Classics Magazine
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Just to let you know, if you don't already, that the March 2010 edition
of Practical Classics has a buying guide for the Rover P4. I know those
overseas (outside of Australia) may have had this magazine already but
here in Australia we have to wait for the latest clipper ship to arrive
from old blighty and they are one down since the Cutty Sark was burnt down!
Ray Wilkins
Melbourne Australia
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From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 9 03:09:18 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 03:09:18 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Practical Classics Magazine
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAvSaH3BVDBkuOAR9OM/jZ+AEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
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Eric Russell wrote:
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Good one...... Ray.
>
> We have similar experience with the mail leaving here, going north by dog
> sled to Alaska, Siberia, across northern Russia, and down Scandanavia to
> London. :-)
>
> Eric
>
When the new issue comes out, I have mine sent ahead in time from the
Large Hadron Collider site in Switzerland thereby receiving it before it
has been published. That way, I can email corrections to the publisher
and read the corrected articles on my second pass through the magazine.
This technique also affords certain advantages when replying to
classified advertisements.
Glen
From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Fri Apr 9 15:57:38 2010
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:57:38 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
Message-ID: <SNT105-W63FAD850E8961205EAFDC08E150@phx.gbl>
I posted the photos for on the yahoo groups Rovernet site, in an album called NatRover 2010.
I have just found that hotmail has a place to insert the address of email lists, so that they will come through. I have not been getting Rovernet for a few weeks as well. If this message comes through then I have found a solution to the problem.
James.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 16:02:58 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:02:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W63FAD850E8961205EAFDC08E150@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <241070.69430.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
James,
We are reading you on the main Rovernet list at the moment.
Hope the weather was good.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Fri, 4/9/10, James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:57 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
>
> I posted the photos for on the yahoo groups Rovernet site,
> in an album called NatRover 2010.
>
> I have just found that hotmail has a place to insert the
> address of email lists, so that they will come through. I
> have not been getting Rovernet for a few weeks as well. If
> this message comes through then I have found a solution to
> the problem.
>
> James.
> ???
> ????????
> ?????? ???
> ?
> _________________________________________________________________
> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM
> protection.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 16:14:52 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:14:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W63FAD850E8961205EAFDC08E150@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <76196.3271.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Ah,.... yes....
Just saw the pictures. Great sunny day and masses of fine Rovers to see.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Fri, 4/9/10, James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:57 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
>
> I posted the photos for on the yahoo groups Rovernet site,
> in an album called NatRover 2010.
>
> I have just found that hotmail has a place to insert the
> address of email lists, so that they will come through. I
> have not been getting Rovernet for a few weeks as well. If
> this message comes through then I have found a solution to
> the problem.
>
> James.
> ???
> ????????
> ?????? ???
> ?
> _________________________________________________________________
> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM
> protection.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 16:19:28 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:19:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hotmail Safe List
Message-ID: <272552.68587.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Ah,...... this is what James meant by a safe list with Hotmail:
"Windows Live Hotmail's spam filtering options are great, and they can send a lot of the spam you'd usually find in your Windows Live Hotmail Inbox to the Junk Mail folder automatically. But the filters are not perfect and might catch an important message now and then by mistake.
As a precaution, you can add known senders to the Safe senders list. Hotmail will never regard mail from a sender on this list as spam. To make sure I'll never miss an issue of the About newsletters I have subscribed I have added "about.com" to the Windows Live Hotmail Safe senders list, for example.
Make Sure Windows Live Hotmail Doesn't Ban Important Mail as Junk
To prevent Hotmail from banning important messages as spam:
?Select Options | More Options... from the Windows Live Hotmail toolbar (or just Options if you use Windows Live Hotmail classic).
?Follow the Safe and blocked senders link under Junk e-mail.
?Click Safe senders.
?Type the email address or domain you want to put on the Safe senders list in the Sender or domain to mark as safe: entry field.
?To whitelist all About newsletters, for example, type "about.com".
?Click Add to list >>.
If you have subscribed to mailing lists, make sure their messages get through, too.
You can also have Windows Live Hotmail accept only mail from known senders."
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 16:23:39 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:23:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] ISP Mailing List blocking References
Message-ID: <884664.80112.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
If you have had Rovernet message problems, have a little read down the pages of this site in case anything applies to your situation.
http://www.123loadboard.com/faqs/pc-troubleshooting/spam.aspx#comcast
Eric
PS. It *is* talking a blocking about another communication system but there seemed to be useful advice which could be applied to the Rovernet list.
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Fri Apr 9 16:29:14 2010
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 16:29:14 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Hotmail Users, adding Rovernet as a Safe email list.
In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W63FAD850E8961205EAFDC08E150@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT105-W63FAD850E8961205EAFDC08E150@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT105-W5738CAF46C9A9E87B94F318E150@phx.gbl>
To set rovernet as a safe email address, first log into your hotmail account. Then on the top right hand corner, just under your name, there is a pull down menu, "Options". Pull down the menu and click on more options, and wait for the page to load.
Then click on the "Safe and blocked senders" which is just under the Junk e-Mail heading. Then on the next screen select "Safe mailing lists." Type in rovernet at rovernet.ca into the field, and click on the Add to list button. rovernet at rovernet.ca should now be in the Safe mailing lists, on the right hand side, and Rovernet should now arrive in your inbox.
James.
> From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:57:38 -0400
> Subject: [Rovernet ] NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
>
> I posted the photos for on the yahoo groups Rovernet site, in an album called NatRover 2010.
>
> I have just found that hotmail has a place to insert the address of email lists, so that they will come through. I have not been getting Rovernet for a few weeks as well. If this message comes through then I have found a solution to the problem.
>
> James.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
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From gofanu at cust.usachoice.net Fri Apr 9 17:05:05 2010
From: gofanu at cust.usachoice.net (Fletcher Millmore)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:05:05 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest?
Message-ID: <4BBF9681.8080006@usachoice.net>
All I know is that I last got a digest 3/17, until today's - which feels
like I am not in the right universe.
Please don't do anything that forces me into Yahoo. Please!
Since the beginning of my internet experience, c 1999, I have had
nothing but aggro with Yahoo and their silly procedures and BS signups.
I have with considerable effort jumped through all the hoops for several
groups of interest, occasionally getting as far as "Congratulations, you
have successfully joined Yahoo group XYZ", only to be unable to access
anything - and to find that my signed up identity is not available for a
next attempt, because "there is already an account by that name". When I
have successfully signed up, they do their superspy security updates and
I can't follow it. And every time I try it, Yahoo crap appears on my
computer.
>>>!!! I HATE Yahoo crap!!! <<<
I have managed to sign up for all sorts of other sites, boards, lists
etc, so while I am admittedly not a computer age person, I think I'm not
completely incompetent.
As a distant relation of Jonathan Swift, I always thought you had to be,
well, a Yahoo, to name your business/organization such.
FRM
From rovernet at shaw.ca Fri Apr 9 18:22:12 2010
From: rovernet at shaw.ca (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:22:12 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest?
In-Reply-To: <4BBF9681.8080006@usachoice.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAphvy9xiV80CS6sCVCWU5hQEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
Fletcher,
With the financial approval of the Rover Car Club of Canada at its AGM on
April 17, I am going to move all my non-profit groups to another web host.
It will be the same one that the UK-based Rover Sports Register uses.
I will be able to re-establish the Rovernet with the same Mailman software.
There are no ads or Spam with the Mailman list. I'll keep everyone
informed.
You're right - the "free" Yahoo list is not "free" if they extract
information and sell it on or use it to annoy and harass subscribers to a
mailing list.
This Mailman list is paid for by the membership dues of the members of the
Rover car Club of Canada and we don't ask for any payment by *anybody* who
joins the list, member or not.
I'll keep your thoughts in mind.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Fletcher Millmore
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 2:05 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest?
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
All I know is that I last got a digest 3/17, until today's - which feels
like I am not in the right universe.
Please don't do anything that forces me into Yahoo. Please!
Since the beginning of my internet experience, c 1999, I have had
nothing but aggro with Yahoo and their silly procedures and BS signups.
I have with considerable effort jumped through all the hoops for several
groups of interest, occasionally getting as far as "Congratulations, you
have successfully joined Yahoo group XYZ", only to be unable to access
anything - and to find that my signed up identity is not available for a
next attempt, because "there is already an account by that name". When I
have successfully signed up, they do their superspy security updates and
I can't follow it. And every time I try it, Yahoo crap appears on my
computer.
>>>!!! I HATE Yahoo crap!!! <<<
I have managed to sign up for all sorts of other sites, boards, lists
etc, so while I am admittedly not a computer age person, I think I'm not
completely incompetent.
As a distant relation of Jonathan Swift, I always thought you had to be,
well, a Yahoo, to name your business/organization such.
FRM
To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure
to scroll down the whole page.
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
From den at aachenkennels.com Fri Apr 9 19:53:10 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:53:10 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
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Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608223A@Server.adoptsec.local>
Sorry Chaps, but in the 12 years or so I have used Yahoo groups I have
never incounterd any sort of the problems that I have been reading
about.
Downloading photos is as easy as just attaching them to your mail. Never
have issues with spammers. In addition, any man with a dog can teach it
to find your email address. The only hassle I find is when a new bod
wants to join unless you know him than he stays on ' moderated' until he
checks out.
Whenever I have had an issue I found the boffins behind the scene very
helpful and understanding that they are dealing with a ' TWIT' (the
adults called me that when young if I did something silly. Now it mean I
refer to myself as an 'old TWIT' meaning Trouble With Internet
Technology' (smile). Perhaps I could form a new group to look at Yahoo
problems and call it " the old Twits club" that in turn could be shorten
to ' To Twits' or we could ... Sorry I digress).
Anyway other than the possibilities that Yahoo is set up different (up
here) in Australia I've no answer to the difficulties experienced by
others users as I have never encountered the same problems that other
have with Yahoo. Ether as a member or as a moderator I recommend you all
have another bash at sorting your problems with it, once dont it is an
easy vehicle to use.
Den.
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Fri Apr 9 21:00:22 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:00:22 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608223A@Server.adoptsec.local>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAphvy9xiV80CS6sCVCWU5hQEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
<73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608223A@Server.adoptsec.local>
Message-ID: <i0jvr5tatuiv62turrn3p7puht0hojh596@4ax.com>
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:53:10 +0800, you wrote:
>Sorry Chaps, but in the 12 years or so I have used Yahoo groups I have
>never incounterd any sort of the problems that I have been reading
>about.
>
I agree with Dennis.
I have had the RCCA group with Yahoo since inception in 2004. Before
that I started a group for Melbourne Audio Club in 1999.
Both still are operating just fine.
In both cases they are not public but members only, so never any spam
problems.
The only problem I have had is with members accessing the web pages
such as the photos who are not registered with Yahoo.
So you have to put up with some advertising, the Net is full of the
stuff these days, Google, Facebook etc, you tune out.
Cheers,
Peter H
From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Fri Apr 9 21:11:17 2010
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:11:17 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
In-Reply-To: <76196.3271.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT105-W63FAD850E8961205EAFDC08E150@phx.gbl>,
<76196.3271.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT105-W48FE3CA90561005FD228C48E140@phx.gbl>
I think that it should be rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca address that needs to be on the safe list, for rovernet to get through. I have just added it, and I am trying again to see what happens this time. It appears that messages can get through, in non digest mode if the sender is on my contact list.
James.
> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:14:52 -0700
> From: p6rovers at yahoo.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Ah,.... yes....
> Just saw the pictures. Great sunny day and masses of fine Rovers to see.
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
> --- On Fri, 4/9/10, James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: James Radcliffe <j_radcliffe at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [Rovernet ] NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Received: Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:57 PM
> > Please also join the back-up group
> > at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> > AND then send a CC: copy to:
> > Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> > to test this system.
> > *
> > *
> >
> > I posted the photos for on the yahoo groups Rovernet site,
> > in an album called NatRover 2010.
> >
> > I have just found that hotmail has a place to insert the
> > address of email lists, so that they will come through. I
> > have not been getting Rovernet for a few weeks as well. If
> > this message comes through then I have found a solution to
> > the problem.
> >
> > James.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM
> > protection.
> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> > this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Fri Apr 9 21:16:41 2010
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:16:41 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] FW: NatRove 2010, and hotmail safe list.
In-Reply-To: <76196.3271.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT105-W63FAD850E8961205EAFDC08E150@phx.gbl>,
<76196.3271.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT105-W39A7DC5A683B3C5A260068E140@phx.gbl>
I think that it should be rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca as the address that needs to be on the safe list, for rovernet to get through. I have just added it, and I am trying again to see what happens this time. It appears that messages can get through, in non digest mode if the sender is on my contact list.
James.
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From kkinard at att.net Fri Apr 9 21:54:40 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:54:40 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest?
In-Reply-To: <4BBF9681.8080006@usachoice.net>
References: <4BBF9681.8080006@usachoice.net>
Message-ID: <4BBFDA60.3090107@att.net>
Hi Fletcher,
I have had the same experience...again this time after signing up. I
also hate Yahoo. If the pictures are posted and the front page says they
are, I can't get to them!
Roverepulsedly,
Kent K.
Fletcher Millmore wrote:
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> All I know is that I last got a digest 3/17, until today's - which
> feels like I am not in the right universe.
>
> Please don't do anything that forces me into Yahoo. Please!
>
> Since the beginning of my internet experience, c 1999, I have had
> nothing but aggro with Yahoo and their silly procedures and BS
> signups. I have with considerable effort jumped through all the hoops
> for several groups of interest, occasionally getting as far as
> "Congratulations, you have successfully joined Yahoo group XYZ", only
> to be unable to access anything - and to find that my signed up
> identity is not available for a next attempt, because "there is
> already an account by that name". When I have successfully signed up,
> they do their superspy security updates and I can't follow it. And
> every time I try it, Yahoo crap appears on my computer.
>
> >>>!!! I HATE Yahoo crap!!! <<<
> I have managed to sign up for all sorts of other sites, boards, lists
> etc, so while I am admittedly not a computer age person, I think I'm
> not completely incompetent.
>
> As a distant relation of Jonathan Swift, I always thought you had to
> be, well, a Yahoo, to name your business/organization such.
>
> FRM
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 9 22:00:13 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:00:13 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608223A@Server.adoptsec.local>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAphvy9xiV80CS6sCVCWU5hQEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
<73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608223A@Server.adoptsec.local>
Message-ID: <4BBFDBAD.8000508@comcast.net>
I'm not taking issue with Den or Peter regarding Yahoo, but Google
Groups seem to have a cleaner, more attractive presentation and don't
seem to be burdened by any ads or spam at all. I'm a little bit
mystified that no one else seems to have had any experience with them.
My only gripe with Yahoo services in general is that their primary sales
tactic seems to be to give you a free service with some designed-in
limitation or "nag" component and then try to "up-sell" you to a pay
service. It reminds me of "cripple-ware" in the software field where
some programs are advertised as freeware but are really shareware with
certain features are not functional.
GW
From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Apr 9 22:17:00 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:17:00 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Issues
Message-ID: <4BBFDF9C.30507@comcast.net>
Just in case anyone is interested, the Rovernet seems to have reverted
to normal for me on my original email address with no changes made.
We've experienced some confusion and some service problems, but I think
things will be back to normal if we can all just be patient for a couple
of weeks. I think that those of us who have been trying to sort things
out are in agreement that Eric has found the handle on this problem and
will have any intermittent problems sorted out after taking the steps he
has described.
We're in good hands, as long as Eric doesn't lose what's left of his
sanity in the next week or so.
;-)
Glen
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 9 23:30:33 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:30:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Issues
In-Reply-To: <4BBFDF9C.30507@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <315375.54443.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Well,....... I *was* around the bend but I'm coming back now. I believe a solution is within grasp. If things are working now - good. Things will work better ....... soon.
Eric
PS. I have managed Rovernet on "Majordomo", "Lyris Beta", "Lyris Established", "Topica", "Yahoo Groups", and, at the moment,.... "Mailman". I prefer "Mailman". I think it's best for management and best for members. We have a Yahoo Group as a back-up and people can post photos there. Malcolm is gathering his article and pictures on "Things they don't tell you about rear calipers in the WM." Well,...... no...... it's not actually *called* that but we will soon have it in our "Practical Tips" section on the RCCC website.
Malcolm is also going to gather pictures about the Easter Annual Rover in New Zealand, which he attended. We'll post photos both on the Yahoo Rover_net and on our own website. (This is a long "PS",... sorry.)
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Issues
> To: "Rovernet.ca" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, April 9, 2010, 7:17 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Just in case anyone is interested, the Rovernet seems to
> have reverted to normal for me on my original email address
> with no changes made.
>
> We've experienced some confusion and some service problems,
> but I think things will be back to normal if we can all just
> be patient for a couple of weeks. I think that those of us
> who have been trying to sort things out are in agreement
> that Eric has found the handle on this problem and will have
> any intermittent problems sorted out after taking the steps
> he has described.
>
> We're in good hands, as long as Eric doesn't lose what's
> left of his sanity in the next week or so.
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From gofanu at cust.usachoice.net Sat Apr 10 00:34:11 2010
From: gofanu at cust.usachoice.net (Fletcher Millmore)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:34:11 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest? more
Message-ID: <4BBFFFC3.3040004@usachoice.net>
I went looking and found the last month's messages caught in spam
filters. I have no clue as to how these are set up, but whatever it is
happened a couple of years ago when my ISP switched to Google mail
through the ISP. Now evidently something changed 17 Mar, must be an
Irish thing, yes?
I stand by my hatred of Yahoo, but am in line for Den's TWITS club. I
would use said club to beat a fundamental understanding of the English
language into some computer instruction writer's heads.
FRM
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sat Apr 10 00:50:12 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:50:12 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <4BBFDBAD.8000508@comcast.net>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAATPJ/oCCoR0mDAEliL1vePsKAAAAQAAAAphvy9xiV80CS6sCVCWU5hQEAAAAA@shaw.ca>
<73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608223A@Server.adoptsec.local>
<4BBFDBAD.8000508@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6l00s5t36r3lpqt0rcvp5nsmisddjbide8@4ax.com>
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:00:13 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm not taking issue with Den or Peter regarding Yahoo, but Google
>Groups seem to have a cleaner, more attractive presentation and don't
>seem to be burdened by any ads or spam at all. I'm a little bit
Glen,
I mentioned in a previous email I do use Google Groups (perhaps one
you did not get?). I have a discussion group for Rover 75/MGZT which I
manage. I tried using Google as an alternative to Yahoo.
From an Admin point of view I prefer Yahoo, you can do more
"management" of the list than with Google, but as a receiver of emails
I cant see much difference.
Cheers,
Peter H
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 10 01:00:30 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 22:00:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest? more
In-Reply-To: <4BBFFFC3.3040004@usachoice.net>
Message-ID: <976339.31351.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Letcher,
Are you saying (I Hope) that you have been able to change your Spam filter to accept Rovernet messages?
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net> wrote:
> From: Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest? more
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:34 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> I went looking and found the last month's messages caught
> in spam filters. I have no clue as to how these are set up,
> but whatever it is happened a couple of years ago when my
> ISP switched to Google mail through the ISP. Now evidently
> something changed 17 Mar, must be an Irish thing, yes?
> I stand by my hatred of Yahoo, but am in line for Den's
> TWITS club. I would use said club to beat a fundamental
> understanding of the English language into some computer
> instruction writer's heads.
>
> FRM
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 10 01:02:41 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 22:02:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest? more
In-Reply-To: <976339.31351.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <914543.72338.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Type. Sorry.
FLETCHER.
Trouble with the Shift F key.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest? more
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, April 9, 2010, 10:00 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Letcher,
> Are you saying (I Hope) that you have been able to change
> your Spam filter to accept Rovernet messages?
>
> Eric
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian,
> 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail,
> 1975
>
>
> --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest? more
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Received: Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:34 PM
> > Please also join the back-up group
> > at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> > AND then send a CC: copy to:
> > Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> > to test this system.
> > *
> > *
> > I went looking and found the last month's messages
> caught
> > in spam filters. I have no clue as to how these are
> set up,
> > but whatever it is happened a couple of years ago when
> my
> > ISP switched to Google mail through the ISP. Now
> evidently
> > something changed 17 Mar, must be an Irish thing,
> yes?
> > I stand by my hatred of Yahoo, but am in line for
> Den's
> > TWITS club. I would use said club to beat a
> fundamental
> > understanding of the English language into some
> computer
> > instruction writer's heads.
> >
> > FRM
> >
> > To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go
> to
> > this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> >
>
>
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From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Apr 10 01:21:10 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:21:10 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] driving in the rain.
References: <4BBFDF9C.30507@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608223E@Server.adoptsec.local>
Is this lot below all gobble de gook ....????
Den.
PS I like Letcher has a certain tone to it....(smile)
How to achieve good vision while driving during a heavy downpour.
We are not sure why this is effective, but try it when it rains heavily.
This method was told by a Police friend who had experienced and
confirmed it.
It is useful ... even driving at night.
Most motorists will turn on the HIGH or FASTEST wiper speed during heavy
downpours, yet the visibility in front of the windshield is still bad.
In the event you face such a situation, put on your SUN GLASSES. Any
model will do. All of a sudden, the visibility in front of your
windshield is perfectly clear, as if there is no rain.
Make sure you always carry a pair of SUN GLASSES in your car. You are
not only helping yourself to drive more safely with good vision, but
also might save your friend's
life by giving him this idea.
Try it yourself and share it with your friends! You still see the drops
on the windshield, but not the sheet of falling rain. You can also see
where the rain bounces off the road... This also works to eliminate the
"blindness" from passing vehicles spraying you and the "kickup" if you
are following another car, truck or tractor trailer rig.
They ought to teach this tip in driver's training ... it really does
work.
This warning is a good one !
I wonder how many people know about this .......
A 36 year old female had an accident several weeks ago and totaled her
car. A resident of Kilgore , Texas she was traveling between
Gladewater
& Kilgore. It was raining, though not excessively, when her car
suddenly began to hydro-plane and literally flew through the air. She
was not seriously injured but very stunned at the sudden occurrence!
When she explained to the highway patrolman what had happened, he told
her something that every driver should know - NEVER DRIVE IN THE RAIN
WITH YOUR CRUISE CONTROL ON. She thought she was being cautious by
setting the cruise control and maintaining a safe consistent speed in
the rain.
But the highway patrolman told her that if the cruise control is on when
your car begins to hydro-plane and your tires lose contact with the
pavement, your car will accelerate to a higher rate of speed making you
take off like an airplane. She told the patrolman that was exactly what
had occurred.
The patrolman said this warning should be listed on the driver's seat
sun-visor ... NEVER USE THE CRUISE CONTROL WHEN THE PAVEMENT IS WET OR
ICY ... along with the airbag warning. We tell our teenagers to set the
cruise control and drive a safe speed, but we don't tell them to use the
cruise control only when the pavement is dry.
The only person the accident victim found, who knew this besides the
patrolman, was a man who had a similar accident, totaled his car and
sustained severe injuries.
NOTE: Some vehicles (like the Toyota Sienna Limited XLE) will not allow
you to set the cruise control when the windshield wipers are on.
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From petewibb at gmail.com Sat Apr 10 01:38:10 2010
From: petewibb at gmail.com (petewibb)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:08:10 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] Please don't do anything that forces me into Yahoo.
Please!
Message-ID: <r2zf91bc6a91004092238l243e1f7q85bce991457c62eb@mail.gmail.com>
Fletcher I feel your pain.
I'm in Australia which is proposing to filter the internet very soon,
although my computer has come out in sympathy already and refuses to load
the yahoo groups pages unless I use a VPN (virtual private network) and
"pretend" I'm loading the page from California ... go figure.
I dont know if my ISP is blocking yahoo groups or there is a problem
somewhere but I'd much rather stay with the email list as is....
Yahoo is not a very user friendly place for me most times and yet others
love it, I can manage with it at a painful struggle but I'd rather pull a
coupla teeth.
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:47 AM,
> From: Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net>
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Troubles w/ digest?
> Message-ID: <4BBF9681.8080006 at usachoice.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> All I know is that I last got a digest 3/17, until today's - which feels
> like I am not in the right universe.
>
> Please don't do anything that forces me into Yahoo. Please!
>
> Since the beginning of my internet experience, c 1999, I have had
> nothing but aggro with Yahoo and their silly procedures and BS signups.
> I have with considerable effort jumped through all the hoops for several
> groups of interest, occasionally getting as far as "Congratulations, you
> have successfully joined Yahoo group XYZ", only to be unable to access
> anything - and to find that my signed up identity is not available for a
> next attempt, because "there is already an account by that name". When I
> have successfully signed up, they do their superspy security updates and
> I can't follow it. And every time I try it, Yahoo crap appears on my
> computer.
>
> >>>!!! I HATE Yahoo crap!!! <<<
>
> I have managed to sign up for all sorts of other sites, boards, lists
> etc, so while I am admittedly not a computer age person, I think I'm not
> completely incompetent.
>
> As a distant relation of Jonathan Swift, I always thought you had to be,
> well, a Yahoo, to name your business/organization such.
>
> FRM
>
>
>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Sat Apr 10 11:34:50 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:34:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
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The most active?list that I deal with is the MGB group, which is on Yahoo. I have never had any difficulty with this list. So, for my two cents, I see no problem with Yahoo.
From my limited experience, it seems that the problem was with Comcast. Once Glen got to them the problem went away. Thanks Glen! I don't know what other ISP's had difficulty, if any, as those with problems have not identified their ISP's.
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From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Apr 10 13:46:31 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:46:31 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <666740451.4374391270913690036.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <4BC0B977.8030301@comcast.net>
slatskars at comcast.net wrote:
> From my limited experience, it seems that the problem was with Comcast. Once Glen got to them the problem went away. Thanks Glen! I don't know what other ISP's had difficulty, if any, as those with problems have not identified their ISP's.
>
> Slats
>
It's hard for me to believe that my phone call to New Jersey fixed
Slats' problem 3000 miles away in Washington State. However, I am always
willing to take credit for something good.
;-)
On a serious note, I'd like to make a suggestion. From time to time, the
idea has been put forward that the list should be divided into two
groups, P6 and Other. I have always objected to this. However, when Eric
reinstalls the operating system on a new server and has the MAILMAN
software working at 100% efficiency, I think the list show be subdivided
into two lists, one for people who like Yahoo and the other for people
who don't like Yahoo. The recent rancor has embittered both sides to the
point where I just don't believe that these two opposing camps can
co-exist on the same mailing list. I know this will make more work for
Eric, but at least the Rovernet will be able to remain viable in some form.
;-)
Glen (smileys, guys)
From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Apr 10 13:51:44 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:51:44 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] OT News
Message-ID: <4BC0BAB0.5080304@comcast.net>
My wife was just watching tv and came up to tell me there is a news
report that Julia Child poached chickens on many occasions.
There is video tape to substantiate these charges.
Glen
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 10 15:46:56 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:46:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <4BC0B977.8030301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <248966.15578.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Good try, Glen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
:-)
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 10:46 AM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> slatskars at comcast.net
> wrote:
> > From my limited experience, it seems that the problem
> was with Comcast. Once Glen got to them the problem went
> away. Thanks Glen! I don't know what other ISP's had
> difficulty, if any, as those with problems have not
> identified their ISP's.
> > Slats???
>
> It's hard for me to believe that my phone call to New
> Jersey fixed Slats' problem 3000 miles away in Washington
> State. However, I am always willing to take credit for
> something good.
>
> ;-)
>
> On a serious note, I'd like to make a suggestion. From time
> to time, the idea has been put forward that the list should
> be divided into two groups, P6 and Other. I have always
> objected to this. However, when Eric reinstalls the
> operating system on a new server and has the MAILMAN
> software working at 100% efficiency, I think the list show
> be subdivided into two lists, one for people who like Yahoo
> and the other for people who don't like Yahoo. The recent
> rancor has embittered both sides to the point where I just
> don't believe that these two opposing camps can co-exist on
> the same mailing list. I know this will make more work for
> Eric, but at least the Rovernet will be able to remain
> viable in some form.
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen? (smileys, guys)
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Sat Apr 10 17:50:11 2010
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:50:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <4BC0B977.8030301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <593478.72751.qm@web180509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
I don't have a problem with yahoo groups either. I belong to the Willys Group, the CJMC, the Suzuki Group, Punky and Lew, the Buell Group and all are on Yahoo. Few, if any, spam that does get through gets ousted almost immediately
roland
>
> On a serious note, I'd like to make a suggestion. From time
> to time, the idea has been put forward that the list should
> be divided into two groups, P6 and Other. I have always
> objected to this. However, when Eric reinstalls the
> operating system on a new server and has the MAILMAN
> software working at 100% efficiency, I think the list show
> be subdivided into two lists, one for people who like Yahoo
> and the other for people who don't like Yahoo. The recent
> rancor has embittered both sides to the point where I just
> don't believe that these two opposing camps can co-exist on
> the same mailing list. I know this will make more work for
> Eric, but at least the Rovernet will be able to remain
> viable in some form.
>
> ;-)
>
> Glen? (smileys, guys)
From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sat Apr 10 18:04:25 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:34:25 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] Forum vehicles
In-Reply-To: <hpqpft+dpqp@eGroups.com>
References: <hpqpft+dpqp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4BC0F5E9.2050405@ozemail.com.au>
Hi all
Just got back from 2 weeks away and it seems as though the sky has fallen!
200 odd emails!!
;-)
My AU$0.02 worth ........
Coming in at a late stage, I apologise if I rake up what has already been discussed .....
I am not really interested in background "nuts n bolts" of any mailing list now. (BTDT!!)
The vehicle is not important, providing it is reliable and easily managed ........
All we should ask is that the community can get back on topic and be a viable resource for all folks owning the Rover marque.
BTW I am also a member of 4 Yahoo! forums.
Messages can be public, readable to all, pictures are optional, but if not allowed, can be posted to a members file area.
Digests are good for some folks, BUT, must be managed correctly when replying.
On 4/11/2010 6:40 AM, Bill wrote:
> I agree with Peter.......not only have i never had a problem with yahoo.....the fact that you can post pictures etc makes it a better alternative to the lengthy digest emails....the ones that are replied to 10 times...LOL
> I'm a fan
> Bill Robertson
>
>
From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sat Apr 10 18:13:05 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:43:05 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <593478.72751.qm@web180509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <593478.72751.qm@web180509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BC0F7F1.202@ozemail.com.au>
Hi
One of the Yahoo! groups I belong to has been attacked by a persistent spammer using a Gmail account. (Google is currently investigating)
The problem seems to be that the group's *owner* has lost interest and the 3 moderators have to manually clean up the mess when it re-appears.
The moderators do not have the permissions needed to set up the forum to pre-register member applications before they join the community.
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 4/11/2010 7:20 AM, roland wrote:
> I don't have a problem with yahoo groups either. I belong to the Willys Group, the CJMC, the Suzuki Group, Punky and Lew, the Buell Group and all are on Yahoo. Few, if any, spam that does get through gets ousted almost immediately
>
> roland
From slatskars at comcast.net Sat Apr 10 18:56:19 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:56:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] OT News
In-Reply-To: <4BC0BAB0.5080304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1464015527.4460941270940179319.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Glen,
That was probably Chicken Eggs! You have been out in the sun too long.
;?- )
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:51:44 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet ] OT News
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
My wife was just watching tv and came up to tell me there is a news
report that Julia Child poached chickens on many occasions.
There is video tape to substantiate these charges.
Glen
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 10 19:03:25 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:03:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Forum vehicles
In-Reply-To: <4BC0F5E9.2050405@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <280090.58238.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Well,..... that's what happens when you go on holiday. The grass on the lawn grows longer, the water pipe bursts, the water heater leaks, and ....... the Rovernet acts up.
1. Some people had trouble receiving and/or sending messages.
2. Some people had *no* problem.
3. It took a while to sort that out.
4. One of our many Internet savvy members found out that the IP address of the web host that the Rovernet uses is on a SPAM list somewhere. That might be the cause of the problem.
5. Providing the RCCC agrees to spend some more of the members' money, there is a more reputable web host to which we can move the Rovernet and everything else.
6. We should be able to get back to normal before the end of the month.
7. It was quiet around here - nobody talking about cars, until the mechanics of the mailing lists started acting up. Gave us something to talk about.
8. Oh, yes....... sorry about your inbox :-), :-)
Eric
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 10 19:06:50 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rover_net] Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <hpqpft+dpqp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <424946.83174.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
There is a header on the digest version that asks for some help from the users on that long, wordy, message.
There is a also a reference to use of the digest on the Rovernet home page:
http://www.ualberta.ca/~pletendr/list-net.html
Even the Yahoo groups version has a digest option.
?
What can ya do, eh?
?
?
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Bill <douluvnascar at yahoo.ca> wrote:
From: Bill <douluvnascar at yahoo.ca>
Subject: [Rover_net] Yahoo
To: Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 2:10 PM
?
I agree with Peter....... not only have i never had a problem with yahoo.....the fact that you can post pictures etc makes it a better alternative to the lengthy digest emails....the ones that are replied to 10 times...LOL
I'm a fan
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From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Apr 10 20:31:27 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:31:27 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
References: <593478.72751.qm@web180509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<4BC0F7F1.202@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608224C@Server.adoptsec.local>
Hi Dave,
I belonged to the same group untill I returned from the Rove and stopped
my membership. Had a brilliant time at the Rove you guys did a smashing
job?
Eric, I never noticed that the RCCC pays for this group untill I read
point 5. (5. Providing the RCCC agrees to spend some more of the
members' money, there is a more reputable web host to which we can move
the Rovernet and everything else.)
That's a big ask of any not for profit club! How much do they spend
annually on the list? It's good enough that folks spend their free time
working for all us Rover people but to also spend money is a very big
ask. More so when there are free group vehicles you can use.
Ether Gmail or Yahoo once set up are both free which must be a big plus
in their favour. As a bit of a win win I do like the idea of the two
addresses running side by side (if possible that is) and have Yahoo set
up to receive photos or Gmail. My point here is both make it easy to
send photos with just a simple click and drag one can store them in your
own file for future use. In addition, is much easier to point to
something in the photo such as: - "the top screw in the top left hand
corner has to go in first or this is a photo of the modification to the
bracket, sorry about the two dogs shagging they belong to my
neighbour...
A picture paints a thousand words...
BTW, had a bit of a win yesterday. I needed two new top caps for the
kingpins on the Rover special which are 23.45 mm in Dia. Not being able
to find any was starting to become a bit of a worry with my last hope
being able to source some at this year's Motor mart at Beauluie ( I can
never spell the name of that place ). Driving past a hot rod shop I
stopped to ask if they sold split pin kits which they dont. However
during the conversation the subject of kingpins arose and blow me down
he had a set of 23.50 mm brass ones in stock. Message here chaps is dont
disregard these hot rod or car custom shops when sourcing spares.
Den.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of David Read
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2010 6:13 AM
To: The Rover Car .......
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Hi
One of the Yahoo! groups I belong to has been attacked by a persistent
spammer using a Gmail account. (Google is currently investigating)
The problem seems to be that the group's *owner* has lost interest and
the 3 moderators have to manually clean up the mess when it re-appears.
The moderators do not have the permissions needed to set up the forum to
pre-register member applications before they join the community.
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 4/11/2010 7:20 AM, roland wrote:
> I don't have a problem with yahoo groups either. I belong to the
Willys Group, the CJMC, the Suzuki Group, Punky and Lew, the Buell Group
and all are on Yahoo. Few, if any, spam that does get through gets
ousted almost immediately
>
> roland
To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page. Be
sure to scroll down the whole page.
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 10 22:02:34 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:02:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
In-Reply-To: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD1608224C@Server.adoptsec.local>
Message-ID: <342571.245.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Dennis,
I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you. The RCCC pays for web hosting. The Rovernet is a sub-domain. From Rovernet springs "the Rovernet".
Stop me if you had heard this before......
I have used the following types of software for running the Rovernet:
Majordomo
Lyris Beta
Lyris Final version
Topica
Yahoo
Mailman
Mailman is the best. There is no advertising, no spam, easiest to manage for administration, easily directed to any person's email, smartphone, Blackberry, iPhone, etc., etc.
The RCCC is willing to support the Rovernet.
We just have to discuss moving away from one web host to a more reputable firm.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com> wrote:
> From: Dennis Gallacher <den at aachenkennels.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 5:31 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hi Dave,
> I belonged to the same group untill I returned from the
> Rove and stopped
> my membership. Had a brilliant time at the Rove you guys
> did a smashing
> job?
>
> Eric, I never noticed that the RCCC pays for this group
> untill I read
> point 5. (5. Providing the RCCC agrees to spend some more
> of the
> members' money, there is a more reputable web host to which
> we can move
> the Rovernet and everything else.)
> ? That's a big ask of any not for profit club! How
> much do they spend
> annually on the list? It's good enough that folks spend
> their free time
> working for all us Rover people but to also spend money is
> a very big
> ask. More so when there are free group vehicles you can
> use.
>
> Ether Gmail or Yahoo once set up are both free which must
> be a big plus
> in their favour. As a bit of a win win I do like the idea
> of the two
> addresses running side by side (if possible that is) and
> have Yahoo set
> up to receive photos or Gmail. My point here is both make
> it easy to
> send photos with just a simple click and drag one can store
> them in your
> own file for future use. In addition, is much easier to
> point to
> something in the photo such as: - "the top screw in the top
> left hand
> corner has to go in first or this is a photo of the
> modification to the
> bracket, sorry about the two dogs shagging they belong to
> my
> neighbour...
>
> A picture paints a thousand words...
>
>
> BTW, had a bit of a win yesterday. I needed two new top
> caps for the
> kingpins on the Rover special which are 23.45 mm in Dia.
> Not being able
> to find any was starting to become a bit of a worry with my
> last hope
> being able to source some at this year's Motor mart at
> Beauluie ( I can
> never spell the name of that place ). Driving past a hot
> rod shop I
> stopped to ask if they sold split pin kits which they dont.
> However
> during the conversation the subject of kingpins arose and
> blow me down
> he had a set of 23.50 mm brass ones in stock. Message here
> chaps is dont
> disregard these hot rod or car custom shops when sourcing
> spares.
>
> Den.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On Behalf Of David Read
> Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2010 6:13 AM
> To: The Rover Car .......
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] I don't mind Yahoo
>
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Hi
> One of the Yahoo! groups I belong to has been attacked by a
> persistent
> spammer using a Gmail account. (Google is currently
> investigating)
> The problem seems to be that the group's *owner* has lost
> interest and
> the 3 moderators have to manually clean up the mess when it
> re-appears.
> The moderators do not have the permissions needed to set up
> the forum to
> pre-register member applications before they join the
> community.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> On 4/11/2010 7:20 AM, roland wrote:
>
> > I don't have a problem with yahoo groups either. I
> belong to the
> Willys Group, the CJMC, the Suzuki Group, Punky and Lew,
> the Buell Group
> and all are on Yahoo. Few, if any, spam that does get
> through gets
> ousted almost immediately
> >
> > roland
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be
> sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>
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From gbbourque at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 08:33:06 2010
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:33:06 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1970 Rover 3500S
In-Reply-To: <s2k982f148d1003311339m87648c49gf144aeb91daadde6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <p6estate@blueyonder.co.uk>
<3826-4BA42EFC-4682@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>
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Message-ID: <s2j982f148d1004110533v4f3ced01v19c449156770b126@mail.gmail.com>
Hello Albert,
I am happy to hear that you got the oil pressure sender that you needed
and that you have a functional computer again!!
Garrett
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:39 PM, garrett bourque <gbbourque at gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello Albert,
> Were you able to get through to Ruth at All British Cars? She was a
> little distracted during the Olympics, but has been pretty good to deal with
> otherwise.
> Garrett
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Albert Boasberg <ABoasberg at webtv.net>wrote:
>
>> Dear Mark:
>>
>> I am looking for an oil pressure sending unit for this car.
>>
>> The part requested is for the guage, not for the dashboard warning
>> light.
>>
>> I also need the round Viking badge or decal that mounts in the center
>> of the boot lid.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Albert
>>
>>
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Sun Apr 11 20:22:59 2010
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:22:59 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W39A7DC5A683B3C5A260068E140@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT105-W63FAD850E8961205EAFDC08E150@phx.gbl>, ,
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From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:25:40 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W39A7DC5A683B3C5A260068E140@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT105-W63FAD850E8961205EAFDC08E150@phx.gbl>, ,
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From rovernet at shaw.ca Sun Apr 11 20:29:26 2010
From: rovernet at shaw.ca (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:29:26 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W39B2E61712A20CA8CB32048E120@phx.gbl>
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Yep, received.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of James Radcliffe
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:23 PM
To: Rover Net
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
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to test this system.
*
*
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From: rover2000tc at gmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:27:27 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test message.
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Mon Apr 12 12:54:21 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] FS: black vinyl rear seat & 4 door cards
Message-ID: <133760.63141.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi all,
I have got a complete black vinyl rear seat (Series I?), as well as 4 black door cards and 2 shin bins, that I need to get rid of - will never use them, they should go to a good home, and to top it off I'm moving to NY this summer & don't want to lug them with me (but am happy to do so if someone in NY/the Northeast/Canada wants them.? They are in excellent shape, with just a couple of small tears in the vinyl.? The biggest problem is that the foam in the upright cushions has turned to powder.? The cushions still can serve as good patterns.
Pictures of the seat are here:? http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/RoverP6RearSeats?feat=directlink? I have not yet taken pictures of the door cards, but can do so if someone wants me to.
Regards,
Jim
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From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Apr 12 22:31:15 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:31:15 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent re: RoveAmerica 2010
Message-ID: <4BC3D773.1080602@comcast.net>
Kent,
If you're heading up to Dirk's from Texas in June, you might be
interested in a new trailer...of sorts.
http://tinyurl.com/ycpph43
Roverequippedproperly,
Glen
From kkinard at att.net Mon Apr 12 22:37:35 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:37:35 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent re: RoveAmerica 2010
In-Reply-To: <4BC3D773.1080602@comcast.net>
References: <4BC3D773.1080602@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BC3D8EF.5070802@att.net>
...and if I have the winning bid, I'll have to live in it because my
wife will kick me out and I'll still need something to tow it with.
Roverboardedly,
Kent K.
> Kent,
>
> If you're heading up to Dirk's from Texas in June, you might be
> interested in a new trailer...of sorts.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ycpph43
>
> Roverequippedproperly,
>
> Glen
From rover2000tc at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 23:24:00 2010
From: rover2000tc at gmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:24:00 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent re: RoveAmerica 2010
In-Reply-To: <4BC3D8EF.5070802@att.net>
References: <4BC3D773.1080602@comcast.net> <4BC3D8EF.5070802@att.net>
Message-ID: <q2y14f46da41004122024vdaec3cfg558b9e0f82b6d9b4@mail.gmail.com>
.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
> Please also join the back-up group at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> ...and if I have the winning bid, I'll have to live in it because my wife
> will kick me out and I'll still need something to tow it with.
> Roverboardedly,
> Kent K.
>>
>> Kent,
>
>> If you're heading up to Dirk's from Texas in June, you might be interested
>> in a new trailer...of sorts.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ycpph43
>>
>> Roverequippedproperly,
>>
>> Glen
>
>
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>
I will be definitely heading to Dirk's in June. I will be driving my
Rover 2000 TC. It will be my second Rover event for the year. At
NatRove in Adelaide we had one attendee who made it to the event, but
his car only made it to Wagga Wagga. It had a bent inlet valve, and
this was the second time that this had happened. He was given an award
for coming, but for his car not making it. In 2 years time I am going
to drive my Rover to Queensland, although I will be giving the car a
thorough service prior to departure. Perhaps the Rover club of NSW
needs to buy a trailer like this. NatRove lacked the technical support
facilities of RoverAmerica, and I did find it a bit inconvenient doing
up the bolt that hold on the bracket which holds on the exhaust on my
Rover 2000 automatic, in the grass at Wigley reserve in Glenelg
Adelaide. The Vytek shop would have been much better for this!
James
From rovercar at comcast.net Tue Apr 13 01:25:05 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:25:05 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent re: RoveAmerica 2010
In-Reply-To: <4BC3D8EF.5070802@att.net>
References: <4BC3D773.1080602@comcast.net> <4BC3D8EF.5070802@att.net>
Message-ID: <4BC40031.20702@comcast.net>
Kent Kinard wrote:
> ...and if I have the winning bid, I'll have to live in it because my
> wife will kick me out and I'll still need something to tow it with.
> Roverboardedly,
> Kent K.
Maybe Sheila would enjoy a trip to England and Ireland to pick it up.
I'm sure you could round up a sufficient number of coracles in Eire to
float it back to Prince Edward Island. Please stop by at my place on
your way west!
Glen
From kkinard at att.net Tue Apr 13 08:30:43 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:30:43 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent Roves and RoveAmerica 2010
In-Reply-To: <4BC40031.20702@comcast.net>
References: <4BC3D773.1080602@comcast.net> <4BC3D8EF.5070802@att.net>
<4BC40031.20702@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BC463F3.6080609@att.net>
Hi Glen,
The last time we were in England we spent our time at the NEC, stripping
SD1's in breakers yards, and driving the backwoods of Wales at night in
the rain to find Ian Richardson's Creamery. We found the Creamery but no
dairy products, only stacks of 460 Ford aluminium blocks left over from
a Cobra project and a curious set of Rover cylinder heads with Chevy
valves and nicely done ports. He wanted to know if I would be interested
in distributing these heads in the US. Alas, I only had money for the
trip to Wales, not the Wildcat heads, much less the front money for the
distributorship.
I might not ever be able to get Sheila back to the UK. I'll be doing
good to get her to Fitchburg. The odds of us coming have improved
slightly, however.
Rovereminiscently,
Kent K.
> Maybe Sheila would enjoy a trip to England and Ireland to pick it up.
> I'm sure you could round up a sufficient number of coracles in Eire to
> float it back to Prince Edward Island. Please stop by at my place on
> your way west!
>
> Glen
From bsaunders at firstva.com Tue Apr 13 09:27:25 2010
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:27:25 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent Roves and RoveAmerica 2010
In-Reply-To: <4BC463F3.6080609@att.net>
References: <4BC3D773.1080602@comcast.net>
<4BC3D8EF.5070802@att.net><4BC40031.20702@comcast.net>
<4BC463F3.6080609@att.net>
Message-ID: <9B3DD214996B487190F186F238B9DEF9@SD1>
Hey Kent,
You are welcome to stay with us here in Virginia for a stop over on your way
if it is convenient. We are about 14 hours from Dirks and plan to go along
with Gordon.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Kent Kinard
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:31 AM
To: The Rover Car .......
Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent Roves and RoveAmerica 2010
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Hi Glen,
The last time we were in England we spent our time at the NEC, stripping
SD1's in breakers yards, and driving the backwoods of Wales at night in
the rain to find Ian Richardson's Creamery. We found the Creamery but no
dairy products, only stacks of 460 Ford aluminium blocks left over from
a Cobra project and a curious set of Rover cylinder heads with Chevy
valves and nicely done ports. He wanted to know if I would be interested
in distributing these heads in the US. Alas, I only had money for the
trip to Wales, not the Wildcat heads, much less the front money for the
distributorship.
I might not ever be able to get Sheila back to the UK. I'll be doing
good to get her to Fitchburg. The odds of us coming have improved
slightly, however.
Rovereminiscently,
Kent K.
> Maybe Sheila would enjoy a trip to England and Ireland to pick it up.
> I'm sure you could round up a sufficient number of coracles in Eire to
> float it back to Prince Edward Island. Please stop by at my place on
> your way west!
>
> Glen
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From kkinard at att.net Tue Apr 13 10:59:30 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:59:30 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent Roves and RoveAmerica 2010
In-Reply-To: <9B3DD214996B487190F186F238B9DEF9@SD1>
References: <4BC3D773.1080602@comcast.net> <4BC3D8EF.5070802@att.net><4BC40031.20702@comcast.net> <4BC463F3.6080609@att.net>
<9B3DD214996B487190F186F238B9DEF9@SD1>
Message-ID: <4BC486D2.20005@att.net>
Hi Ben,
Thank you for the kind invitation, but if we can go we will fly. I don't
have the time to drive and Sheila's back won't take that many hours on
the road. I should know a little more about our plans in the next few days.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Ben Saunders wrote:
> Hey Kent,
> You are welcome to stay with us here in Virginia for a stop over on your way
> if it is convenient. We are about 14 hours from Dirks and plan to go along
> with Gordon.
>
> Ben
>
From bsaunders at firstva.com Tue Apr 13 12:29:48 2010
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:29:48 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent Roves and RoveAmerica 2010
In-Reply-To: <4BC486D2.20005@att.net>
References: <4BC3D773.1080602@comcast.net> <4BC3D8EF.5070802@att.net><4BC40031.20702@comcast.net> <4BC463F3.6080609@att.net><9B3DD214996B487190F186F238B9DEF9@SD1>
<4BC486D2.20005@att.net>
Message-ID: <1902A26238A54B109506EA3579DBBB9A@SD1>
We'll leave on the landing lights.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Kent Kinard
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:00 AM
To: The Rover Car .......
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Kent Roves and RoveAmerica 2010
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Hi Ben,
Thank you for the kind invitation, but if we can go we will fly. I don't
have the time to drive and Sheila's back won't take that many hours on
the road. I should know a little more about our plans in the next few days.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Ben Saunders wrote:
> Hey Kent,
> You are welcome to stay with us here in Virginia for a stop over on your
way
> if it is convenient. We are about 14 hours from Dirks and plan to go along
> with Gordon.
>
> Ben
>
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Thu Apr 15 20:52:30 2010
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:52:30 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] First drive
Message-ID: <DE4EC020-232A-43E5-B466-64B0C7C8CA3B@telusplanet.net>
Finally!!!
Threw the battery in my series 1 70 TC resto project after work today.
After pulling the reserve tap, hand actuating the fuel pump and sweet
talking the ol' boy with promises of new springs and fresh paint,
several attempts at the ignition switch got the engine running for the
first time since christmas!
My son and his friend were videoing the event on my iphone while I
backed down the driveway to take a quick trip around the block. Their
running commentary is hilarious.
This quick trip should hold me for a wee bit as I arrange for the next
round of restoration.
I can't wait until this car becomes my spring/summer/fall daily driver.
Sadly that won't be this summer unless someone has a spare winning
lotto ticket they're not using.... : )
Roy
From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 20:54:02 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:54:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] First drive
In-Reply-To: <DE4EC020-232A-43E5-B466-64B0C7C8CA3B@telusplanet.net>
References: <DE4EC020-232A-43E5-B466-64B0C7C8CA3B@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <986874.60000.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Congrats!! It's a great feeling, isn't it?
Jim
________________________________
From: Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 8:52:30 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] First drive
Please also join the back-up group at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
AND then send a CC: copy to:
Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
to test this system.
*
*
Finally!!!
Threw the battery in my series 1 70 TC resto project after work today.
After pulling the reserve tap, hand actuating the fuel pump and sweet talking the ol' boy with promises of new springs and fresh paint, several attempts at the ignition switch got the engine running for the first time since christmas!
My son and his friend were videoing the event on my iphone while I backed down the driveway to take a quick trip around the block. Their running commentary is hilarious.
This quick trip should hold me for a wee bit as I arrange for the next round of restoration.
I can't wait until this car becomes my spring/summer/fall daily driver.
Sadly that won't be this summer unless someone has a spare winning lotto ticket they're not using.... : )
Roy
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 23:46:03 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:46:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] First drive
In-Reply-To: <DE4EC020-232A-43E5-B466-64B0C7C8CA3B@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <91280.5151.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Roy,
Video you say?
A person could upload it to YouTube and more Rover entertainment could be available to a wider audience. For example:
http://www.roverclub.ca/blogsandvideos.htm
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net> wrote:
> From: Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] First drive
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 5:52 PM
> Please also join the back-up group
> at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> AND then send a CC: copy to:
> Rover_net at yahoogroups.com
> to test this system.
> *
> *
> Finally!!!
>
> Threw the battery in my series 1 70 TC resto project after
> work today.
> After pulling the reserve tap, hand actuating the fuel pump
> and sweet talking the ol' boy with promises of new springs
> and fresh paint, several attempts at the ignition switch got
> the engine running for the first time since christmas!
> My son and his friend were videoing the event on my iphone
> while I backed down the driveway to take a quick trip around
> the block. Their running commentary is hilarious.
> This quick trip should hold me for a wee bit as I arrange
> for the next round of restoration.
> I can't wait until this car becomes my spring/summer/fall
> daily driver.
> Sadly that won't be this summer unless someone has a spare
> winning lotto ticket they're not using.... : )
>
> Roy
>
>
> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to
> this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page.
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From den at aachenkennels.com Fri Apr 16 05:27:00 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:27:00 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] oils aint oils.
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160822C7@Server.adoptsec.local>
Who amongst you rover chaps has heard of a product called " Morey's"
heavy duty oil stabiliser.? If you have what are your thoughts on its
use?.
Kind Regards.
Den Gallacher
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 16 11:58:27 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:58:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
Message-ID: <362217.23555.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi,
I took a survey of a cross-section of Rovernet users.
I found mixed results.
Some people who were reporting problems have noted a return to normal.
Other folk using the digest mentioned erratic behaviour so I subscribd one of my addresses to the digest to look for myself.
Some subscribers did not respond to my request for information using both my Yahoo address and one supplied from my ISP. My survey is incomplete, in those cases.
*** I have cleaned up the header of each message and rescinded the request to also post to the back-up list until further notice. Just send your message to the main list address: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> ***
Some Internet Service Providers have reviewed their approach to SPAM prevention and have placed the IP address that the Rovernet uses with its current web host on a Spam list. I will try to change service providers and let you know if we have done that. You shouldn't notice a negative difference.
*** I have included some links I found to fix anti-Spam problems some users have found with Hotmail, Comcast, and Gmail on the Rovernet home page, here:
http://www.rovernet.ca/
***
Thanks for the support expressed by many members.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Fri Apr 16 12:06:07 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:06:07 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
References: <362217.23555.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <858407B3496B4275BC4209A53E620B54@rw>
I?ve got all messages loud and clear over here in Germany - not any problems
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
An: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. April 2010 17:58
Betreff: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
> Hi,
> I took a survey of a cross-section of Rovernet users.
> I found mixed results.
>
> Some people who were reporting problems have noted a return to normal.
>
> Other folk using the digest mentioned erratic behaviour so I subscribd one of
> my addresses to the digest to look for myself.
>
> Some subscribers did not respond to my request for information using both my
> Yahoo address and one supplied from my ISP. My survey is incomplete, in those
> cases.
>
> *** I have cleaned up the header of each message and rescinded the request to
> also post to the back-up list until further notice. Just send your message to
> the main list address: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> ***
>
> Some Internet Service Providers have reviewed their approach to SPAM
> prevention and have placed the IP address that the Rovernet uses with its
> current web host on a Spam list. I will try to change service providers and
> let you know if we have done that. You shouldn't notice a negative difference.
>
> *** I have included some links I found to fix anti-Spam problems some users
> have found with Hotmail, Comcast, and Gmail on the Rovernet home page, here:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/
> ***
>
>
> Thanks for the support expressed by many members.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Fri Apr 16 12:29:34 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:29:34 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Rovernet nuisance reduction
In-Reply-To: <858407B3496B4275BC4209A53E620B54@rw>
References: <362217.23555.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<858407B3496B4275BC4209A53E620B54@rw>
Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE30220141D@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel>
Here in Italy everything is ok.
Best regards, Gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
Inviato: venerd? 16 aprile 2010 18.06
A: The Rover Car .......
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
I?ve got all messages loud and clear over here in Germany - not any problems
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
An: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. April 2010 17:58
Betreff: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
> Hi,
> I took a survey of a cross-section of Rovernet users.
> I found mixed results.
>
> Some people who were reporting problems have noted a return to normal.
>
> Other folk using the digest mentioned erratic behaviour so I subscribd one of
> my addresses to the digest to look for myself.
>
> Some subscribers did not respond to my request for information using both my
> Yahoo address and one supplied from my ISP. My survey is incomplete, in those
> cases.
>
> *** I have cleaned up the header of each message and rescinded the request to
> also post to the back-up list until further notice. Just send your message to
> the main list address: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> ***
>
> Some Internet Service Providers have reviewed their approach to SPAM
> prevention and have placed the IP address that the Rovernet uses with its
> current web host on a Spam list. I will try to change service providers and
> let you know if we have done that. You shouldn't notice a negative difference.
>
> *** I have included some links I found to fix anti-Spam problems some users
> have found with Hotmail, Comcast, and Gmail on the Rovernet home page, here:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/
> ***
>
>
> Thanks for the support expressed by many members.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 16 12:38:02 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:38:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Rovernet nuisance reduction
In-Reply-To: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE30220141D@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel>
Message-ID: <1911.22998.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
eccellente
Eric
**********************************************
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
****************************************
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
> From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Rovernet nuisance reduction
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Friday, April 16, 2010, 9:29 AM
> Here in Italy everything is ok.
>
> Best regards, Gianluca.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
> Inviato: venerd? 16 aprile 2010 18.06
> A: The Rover Car .......
> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
>
>
> I?ve got all messages loud and clear over here in Germany
> - not any problems
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
>
>
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> An: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 16. April 2010 17:58
> Betreff: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
>
>
> > Hi,
> > I took a survey of a cross-section of Rovernet users.
> > I found mixed results.
> >
> > Some people who were reporting problems have noted a
> return to normal.
> >
> > Other folk using the digest mentioned erratic
> behaviour so I subscribd one of
> > my addresses to the digest to look for myself.
> >
> > Some subscribers did not respond to my request for
> information using both my
> > Yahoo address and one supplied from my ISP. My survey
> is incomplete, in those
> > cases.
> >
> > *** I have cleaned up the header of each message and
> rescinded the request to
> > also post to the back-up list until further notice.
> Just send your message to
> > the main list address: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> ***
> >
> > Some Internet Service Providers have reviewed their
> approach to SPAM
> > prevention and have placed the IP address that the
> Rovernet uses with its
> > current web host on a Spam list. I will try to change
> service providers and
> > let you know if we have done that. You shouldn't
> notice a negative difference.
> >
> > *** I have included some links I found to fix
> anti-Spam problems some users
> > have found with Hotmail, Comcast, and Gmail on the
> Rovernet home page, here:
> > http://www.rovernet.ca/
> > ***
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the support expressed by many members.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> > "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of
> Brian, 1979;
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> Grail, 1975
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 16 12:40:49 2010
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:40:49 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
References: <362217.23555.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP268FB0A52B265525695DF6950E0@phx.gbl>
Hi Eric
No problems on PEI
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From britishrover at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 15:30:31 2010
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:30:31 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Water Pump Needed
In-Reply-To: <21567-4B929964-520@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>
References: <bsaunders@firstva.com>
<21567-4B929964-520@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <t2uc0b3db341004161230h40ace766j44a8cd37c9d71b9@mail.gmail.com>
Albert,
Did U ever find a source for ur Rover V8 Water Pump??
Inquiring minds, need to know..;o)
Dave Moorefield
Asheville, North Carolina
On 3/6/10, Albert Boasberg <ABoasberg at webtv.net> wrote:
> Hi Ben:
>
> I am in San Francisco.
>
> I would prefer to have one that is already rebuilt, if possible.
>
> Thanks and with best regards.
>
> Albert
>
>
>
From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Fri Apr 16 18:53:03 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:23:03 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
In-Reply-To: <362217.23555.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <362217.23555.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BC8EA4F.6070004@ozemail.com.au>
Coming thru loud and clear on both lists here in Oz Eric.
Thanks for your ongoing untiring efforts.
A list coordinator's job can be a frustrating exercise at times. BTDT!!
;-)
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 4/17/2010 1:28 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi,
> I took a survey of a cross-section of Rovernet users.
> I found mixed results.
<snip>
> I have included some links I found to fix anti-Spam problems some users have found with Hotmail, Comcast, and Gmail on the Rovernet home page, here:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/
>
> Thanks for the support expressed by many members.
>
> Eric
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Fri Apr 16 20:20:47 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
In-Reply-To: <4BC8EA4F.6070004@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <954137.25852.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks to Peter and David, again, and again, for their long-time support.
Peter makes some interesting points about subscribers.
When the Mailman system is working, it is very admin friendly. There are no commercials, the server counts the number of bounces and then automatically stops sending more mail, I can add or subtract messages, edit welcoming pages, on and on.
I think James spotted a major problem when he found that the IP address of the web host we use can be found on an anti-Spam blacklist. That is probably because one of their customers signed up for a web account and used it to create havoc.
I believe that problem will be solved shortly when we move away from that host to to another host whose IP address DOES NOT appear on a blacklist. We should be able to reinstall the Mailman list and start fresh.
I have gathered sufficient info from the kind folk who give me the feedback I need to make decisions.
The Rovernet is an alternative to the Forum approach. There is an excellent forum (which I read almost daily) but I have to make the decision and go to the website and read Rover info. The Rovernet gets deleivered to your door (well,..... desktop, laptop, Blackberry, SmartPhone, etc., etc.).
Thanks again for the support and feedback.
"Thin red line..... bulldog spirit, press-on regardless,......"
"However....., when you're up to your ass in alligators, it's a hard job to remind yourself that your original job was to drain the swamp!"
Bye for now,....
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Friday, April 16, 2010, 3:53 PM
> Coming thru loud and clear on both
> lists here in Oz Eric.
>
> Thanks for your ongoing untiring efforts.
> A list coordinator's job can be a frustrating exercise at
> times. BTDT!!
>
> ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
> On 4/17/2010 1:28 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I took a survey of a cross-section of Rovernet users.
> > I found mixed results.
> <snip>
>
> > I have included some links I found to fix anti-Spam
> problems some users have found with Hotmail, Comcast, and
> Gmail on the Rovernet home page, here:
> > http://www.rovernet.ca/
> >
> > Thanks for the support expressed by many members.
> >
> > Eric
>
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From giannid at bigpond.com Sun Apr 18 01:08:39 2010
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:08:39 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P3 test run around Wales
In-Reply-To: <954137.25852.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <954137.25852.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <302E2AE6-05BF-4E2E-9797-5890313B7838@bigpond.com>
hi Netters
I am looking at trying to recreate a test run around Wales in 2011
Michael Brown writing in The Autocar, September 9 1949 describes a run
around through what looks like a very scenic area of Wales including
the Elan Valley.
My wife's family come from Pembrokeshire so we would combine a tour
for me and a research trip for her.
I am thinking of taking my 4 light and selling it in UK rather than
shipping it home again
could anyone help with the following questions?
1. shipping, anyone with knowledge or experience of shipping into UK
2 selling an imported car in UK. My preference would be to pre sell it
before traveling to make it easier. don't know how many 4 lights there
are in the UK but mostly 6 lights in Australia, not surprisingly given
production numbers
3. what does fuel cost in the UK these days?
4. is there a Welsh Rover club or other suitable contacts as i would
love to visit Rover lovers en-route from Southampton or around Wales
Cheers Gianni
Gianni D'Ortenzio
1948 P3 4 light
1949 P3 6 light
1969 P5BC
1971 P6B
2004 Landrover Defender
From den at aachenkennels.com Sun Apr 18 21:50:43 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:50:43 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] P3 test run around Wales
References: <954137.25852.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<302E2AE6-05BF-4E2E-9797-5890313B7838@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD160822E4@Server.adoptsec.local>
Morning Gianni,
I can put you in touch with the firm I use to bring cars to OZ. Give me
a call 089 455 2354 I'm in Perth West Oz.
( like you I married a girl from Taffy land good aint they)
Den.Gallacher
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of Gianni D'Ortenzio
Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2010 1:09 PM
To: The Rover Car .......
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P3 test run around Wales
hi Netters
I am looking at trying to recreate a test run around Wales in 2011
Michael Brown writing in The Autocar, September 9 1949 describes a run
around through what looks like a very scenic area of Wales including
the Elan Valley.
My wife's family come from Pembrokeshire so we would combine a tour
for me and a research trip for her.
I am thinking of taking my 4 light and selling it in UK rather than
shipping it home again
could anyone help with the following questions?
1. shipping, anyone with knowledge or experience of shipping into UK
2 selling an imported car in UK. My preference would be to pre sell it
before traveling to make it easier. don't know how many 4 lights there
are in the UK but mostly 6 lights in Australia, not surprisingly given
production numbers
3. what does fuel cost in the UK these days?
4. is there a Welsh Rover club or other suitable contacts as i would
love to visit Rover lovers en-route from Southampton or around Wales
Cheers Gianni
Gianni D'Ortenzio
1948 P3 4 light
1949 P3 6 light
1969 P5BC
1971 P6B
2004 Landrover Defender
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From michael.maher at virgin.net Mon Apr 19 05:17:40 2010
From: michael.maher at virgin.net (Mike Maher)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:17:40 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] P3 test run around Wales
References: <954137.25852.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<302E2AE6-05BF-4E2E-9797-5890313B7838@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <002801cadfa1$29e4a720$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0>
Hi Gianni,
To answer the fourth point first, I'm sure the RSR would be able to help.
(www.thersr.co.uk) There are all year round meetings Depending on what
time of year you will be visiting, there may be Rover rallies to attend.
Shipping - I know Den Gallacher has shipped vehicles from the UK to
Australia, he may have some ideas.
Visitors can and do use their cars on foreign plates, although they they
arrive at ferry ports in their cars. Insurance is mandatory.
In terms of importing a car, there will be some VAT (Value added tax) to pay
on import and cars will usually be shipped into either Southampton or
Liverpool docks. See
(http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_10014606)
You will need to find out about licensing arrangements. - There may not be
a period during which you can drive on foreign plates as the car is being
imported for sale here. - (See
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022583).
The RSR can help if you really want to navigate the red tape, with dating
certificates and help submitting form V55/5 - application to register a pre
used vehicle.
In any case if you intend to sell, you will need to factor some costs of
registration as described below into your plans, either registering the car
and paying the fees or expecting a lower sale value.
Vehicles have to be insured (cost varies) and have passed a roadworthiness
test known as the MOT (cost around ?50, many garages specialise). All UK
registered vehicles must carry at least third party insurance and display an
excise licence in the windscreen (windshield), pre 1973 cars are at present
zero rated, i.e. the license is free, younger cars pay on a sliding scale.
There will be a registration fee payable to the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle
Licensing Agency) that issues a registration. You will need identification
to buy registration plates.
World wide, the RSR knows of twenty two 60 sports saloons built in 1948, and
4 built in
1949. The figures for the 75 sports saloon are:- 108 (1948) and
58 (1949). Not all of these will be roadworthy, but the majority are in the
UK.
Fuel in the UK is costly. This is because there is a large tax element.
Basic unleaded fuel at present in the UK is
around ?1.17 to ?1.20 per litre, and it is more expensive at Motorway fuel
stops.
I hope all the red tape and cost don't put you off. If you need more detail
or help from the RSR, please contact me
Best regards
Mike Maher
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com>
To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P3 test run around Wales
> hi Netters
> I am looking at trying to recreate a test run around Wales in 2011
> Michael Brown writing in The Autocar, September 9 1949 describes a run
> around through what looks like a very scenic area of Wales including the
> Elan Valley.
> My wife's family come from Pembrokeshire so we would combine a tour for
> me and a research trip for her.
> I am thinking of taking my 4 light and selling it in UK rather than
> shipping it home again
> could anyone help with the following questions?
> 1. shipping, anyone with knowledge or experience of shipping into UK
> 2 selling an imported car in UK. My preference would be to pre sell it
> before traveling to make it easier. don't know how many 4 lights there
> are in the UK but mostly 6 lights in Australia, not surprisingly given
> production numbers
> 3. what does fuel cost in the UK these days?
> 4. is there a Welsh Rover club or other suitable contacts as i would love
> to visit Rover lovers en-route from Southampton or around Wales
>
> Cheers Gianni
> Gianni D'Ortenzio
> 1948 P3 4 light
> 1949 P3 6 light
> 1969 P5BC
> 1971 P6B
> 2004 Landrover Defender
>
>
>
>
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon Apr 19 07:29:34 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:29:34 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P3 test run around Wales
In-Reply-To: <002801cadfa1$29e4a720$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0>
References: <954137.25852.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <302E2AE6-05BF-4E2E-9797-5890313B7838@bigpond.com>
<002801cadfa1$29e4a720$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0>
Message-ID: <4BCC3E9E.6090209@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Gianni,
I was considering a similar plan last year involving a Morgan car and
the Morgan Motor Company centenary activities. I found that if a car
had been previously sold new to the UK market, such that VAT had already
been paid, then theoretically there were no or minimal import duties. A
car that was originally exported and sold new outside the UK is a
different matter: you may have pay both import duty at 10% and VAT at
17.5%. The 27% added cost put the brakes on that idea, and I found
another avenue to having use of a Morgan in the UK for the event.
All of the above only applies if a car is being sent to the UK to stay
or to be re-sold, it's different where the car is "visiting" and will
leave the UK again within a few months.
--Steve Manwell
Mike Maher wrote:
> Hi Gianni,
>
> .....
>
> In terms of importing a car, there will be some VAT (Value added tax)
> to pay
> on import and cars will usually be shipped into either Southampton or
> Liverpool docks. See
> (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_10014606)
>
>
> ....
From giannid at bigpond.com Mon Apr 19 18:02:10 2010
From: giannid at bigpond.com (Gianni D'Ortenzio)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:02:10 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P3 test run around Wales
In-Reply-To: <002801cadfa1$29e4a720$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0>
References: <954137.25852.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<302E2AE6-05BF-4E2E-9797-5890313B7838@bigpond.com>
<002801cadfa1$29e4a720$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0>
Message-ID: <30F27396-99CB-44CD-8381-7C7E5E7EB26F@bigpond.com>
many thanks for helpful comments
am wading through UK Customs site and certainly easier to take it back
home but the transport cost look like about 3000 AUD each way making
it potentially prohibitive
if I could pay one way, use it and sell for say at least 6000 AUD,
then it would be self financing as it were
two way transport cost would make either a UK purchase or rental
(would a modern Rover 75 be rental still?) much more attractive or
even a new Renault deal out of Paris with buy back but then no real
recreation other than in my own mind!
It being over 50 years old seems helpful
will give Dennis a Call to hear his thoughts directly
Cheers Gianni
On 19/04/2010, at 7:17 PM, Mike Maher wrote:
> Hi Gianni,
>
> To answer the fourth point first, I'm sure the RSR would be able to
> help.
> (www.thersr.co.uk) There are all year round meetings Depending on
> what
> time of year you will be visiting, there may be Rover rallies to
> attend.
>
> Shipping - I know Den Gallacher has shipped vehicles from the UK to
> Australia, he may have some ideas.
>
> Visitors can and do use their cars on foreign plates, although they
> they
> arrive at ferry ports in their cars. Insurance is mandatory.
>
> In terms of importing a car, there will be some VAT (Value added
> tax) to pay
> on import and cars will usually be shipped into either Southampton or
> Liverpool docks. See
> (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_10014606
> )
>
> You will need to find out about licensing arrangements. - There may
> not be
> a period during which you can drive on foreign plates as the car is
> being
> imported for sale here. - (See
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022583)
> .
>
> The RSR can help if you really want to navigate the red tape, with
> dating
> certificates and help submitting form V55/5 - application to
> register a pre
> used vehicle.
>
> In any case if you intend to sell, you will need to factor some
> costs of
> registration as described below into your plans, either registering
> the car
> and paying the fees or expecting a lower sale value.
>
> Vehicles have to be insured (cost varies) and have passed a
> roadworthiness
> test known as the MOT (cost around ?50, many garages specialise).
> All UK
> registered vehicles must carry at least third party insurance and
> display an
> excise licence in the windscreen (windshield), pre 1973 cars are at
> present
> zero rated, i.e. the license is free, younger cars pay on a sliding
> scale.
> There will be a registration fee payable to the DVLA (Driver and
> Vehicle
> Licensing Agency) that issues a registration. You will need
> identification
> to buy registration plates.
>
> World wide, the RSR knows of twenty two 60 sports saloons built in
> 1948, and 4 built in
> 1949. The figures for the 75 sports saloon are:- 108 (1948) and
> 58 (1949). Not all of these will be roadworthy, but the majority are
> in the UK.
>
> Fuel in the UK is costly. This is because there is a large tax
> element. Basic unleaded fuel at present in the UK is
> around ?1.17 to ?1.20 per litre, and it is more expensive at
> Motorway fuel stops.
>
> I hope all the red tape and cost don't put you off. If you need
> more detail or help from the RSR, please contact me
>
> Best regards
>
> Mike Maher
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gianni D'Ortenzio" <giannid at bigpond.com
> >
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P3 test run around Wales
>
>
>> hi Netters
>> I am looking at trying to recreate a test run around Wales in 2011
>> Michael Brown writing in The Autocar, September 9 1949 describes a
>> run
>> around through what looks like a very scenic area of Wales
>> including the
>> Elan Valley.
>> My wife's family come from Pembrokeshire so we would combine a
>> tour for
>> me and a research trip for her.
>> I am thinking of taking my 4 light and selling it in UK rather than
>> shipping it home again
>> could anyone help with the following questions?
>> 1. shipping, anyone with knowledge or experience of shipping into UK
>> 2 selling an imported car in UK. My preference would be to pre sell
>> it
>> before traveling to make it easier. don't know how many 4 lights
>> there
>> are in the UK but mostly 6 lights in Australia, not surprisingly
>> given
>> production numbers
>> 3. what does fuel cost in the UK these days?
>> 4. is there a Welsh Rover club or other suitable contacts as i
>> would love
>> to visit Rover lovers en-route from Southampton or around Wales
>>
>> Cheers Gianni
>> Gianni D'Ortenzio
>> 1948 P3 4 light
>> 1949 P3 6 light
>> 1969 P5BC
>> 1971 P6B
>> 2004 Landrover Defender
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe to the list or change your settings go to this page.
>> Be
>> sure to scroll down the whole page.
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>
>>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 00:09:26 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 2000 TC for sale
Message-ID: <58430.50349.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi,
There is another Rover 2000 TC for sale in British Columbia.
Check out the new listing at:
http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm
?
It's not as bad as you might think.
We currently have the greatest number of RCCC members ever.
?
At least one Rover we recently sold through the website went to a new member. The car had been sitting loved, but unused, in safe storage for years. Now "it's alive", and owned by a new member.
?
The Rovers exchange hands and are passed along to younger folk. That's a good thing.
?
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
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From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:21:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 2000 TC for sale
Message-ID: <621828.80545.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi,
There is another Rover 2000 TC for sale in British Columbia.
Check out the new listing at:
http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm
It's not as bad as you might think.
We currently have the greatest number of RCCC members ever.
At least one Rover we recently sold through the website went to a new member. The car had been sitting loved, but unused, in safe storage for years. Now "it's alive", and owned by a new member.
The Rovers exchange hands and are passed along to younger folk. That's a good thing.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From mp349 at xtra.co.nz Tue Apr 20 07:11:28 2010
From: mp349 at xtra.co.nz (Michael Pellow)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:11:28 +1200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet nuisance reduction
In-Reply-To: <362217.23555.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <362217.23555.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BCD8BE0.80908@xtra.co.nz>
On 17/04/2010 3:58 a.m., Eric Russell wrote:
> Hi,
> I took a survey of a cross-section of Rovernet users.
> I found mixed results.
>
> Some people who were reporting problems have noted a return to normal.
>
> Other folk using the digest mentioned erratic behaviour so I subscribd one of my addresses to the digest to look for myself.
>
> Some subscribers did not respond to my request for information using both my Yahoo address and one supplied from my ISP. My survey is incomplete, in those cases.
>
> *** I have cleaned up the header of each message and rescinded the request to also post to the back-up list until further notice. Just send your message to the main list address:<rovernet at rovernet.ca> ***
>
> Some Internet Service Providers have reviewed their approach to SPAM prevention and have placed the IP address that the Rovernet uses with its current web host on a Spam list. I will try to change service providers and let you know if we have done that. You shouldn't notice a negative difference.
>
> *** I have included some links I found to fix anti-Spam problems some users have found with Hotmail, Comcast, and Gmail on the Rovernet home page, here:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/
> ***
>
>
> Thanks for the support expressed by many members.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
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>
I have had no problems receiving mssgs I am with Telecom NZ as my ISP
who are lined to yaho
Michel Pellow
From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 10:44:09 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 2000 TC for sale & slight topic hijack
In-Reply-To: <621828.80545.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <621828.80545.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <129923.59905.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Nice-looking car!
Would anyone happen to have one of those front license plate holders?? I'm going to need something for my TC when I move to NY.? I have what I believe is a correct Rover item that consists of a long bar that bolts under the bumper and has a flat square metal plate welded to the middle of it.? Which if either is correct for my car ('71 Federal TC)?
TIA,
Jim
________________________________
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 1:21:05 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 2000 TC for sale
Hi,
There is another Rover 2000 TC for sale in British Columbia.
Check out the new listing at:
http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm
It's not as bad as you might think.
We currently have the greatest number of RCCC members ever.
At least one Rover we recently sold through the website went to a new member. The car had been sitting loved, but unused, in safe storage for years. Now "it's alive", and owned by a new member.
The Rovers exchange hands and are passed along to younger folk. That's a good thing.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 20:36:02 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:36:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 11 ACR repair question
Message-ID: <439145.22506.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi all,
My TC has not been charging. The main brown/white wire had come off the alternator, and the connector (and what appeared to be 1 or 2 plastic rectangular insulators?) disintegrated. When I tried to take off the brush holder,the badly rusted threaded post and nut came off in one piece.
Pics here: http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/Rover2000TCAlternatorRepairs?feat=directlink
Any suggestions for an easy & inexpensive fix? Does anyone have the internal piece that bolts inside the alternator rear cover that holds the post where the primary wire from the battery connects?
I do have 2 18 ACR units that are supposed to be good - is it worth installing them & rewiring given that the car has factory AC, a radio, and I plan to add spot & fog lights? Right now I need to get her running to use as a daily driver while my Subaru has her head gaskets replaced - late in May (assuming the ash cloud goes away) a friend is coming over from the UK to help me sort my cars for the move,and at that time we could fit a GM unit or such.
TIA for any help - apologies if I've asked this question before.
Am really looking forward to meeting the NY/NE folks - sorry I will miss RoveAmerica this year, but we will be there next year!
Cheers,
Jim
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 22:01:56 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:01:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Was: 11 ACR repair question, now alternator alts.
In-Reply-To: <439145.22506.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <105242.20447.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Jim,
Obtain a rebuilt Delco-Remy alternator and fit it to your car.
I bought 2, over the years, (2 cars) from a local car parts place.
There's one on eBay:
http://tinyurl.com/yyvprgq
I have a little visual on the RCCC website:
http://www.roverclub.ca/alternator.html
I can put you in touch with the clever guy who first fitted one of these to his Rover (unless he'd like to jump in, himself). :-)
The parts are also readily available if there is a later problem.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jim Cumberland <fjcumberland at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Jim Cumberland <fjcumberland at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] 11 ACR repair question
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 5:36 PM
> Hi all,
>
> My TC has not been charging.? The main brown/white
> wire had come off the alternator, and the connector (and
> what appeared to be 1 or 2 plastic rectangular insulators?)
> disintegrated.? When I tried to take off the brush
> holder,the badly rusted threaded post and nut came off in
> one piece.
>
> Pics here:? http://picasaweb.google.com/fjcumberland/Rover2000TCAlternatorRepairs?feat=directlink
>
> Any suggestions for an easy & inexpensive fix??
> Does anyone have the internal piece that bolts inside the
> alternator rear cover that holds the post where the primary
> wire from the battery connects??
>
> I do have 2 18 ACR units that are supposed to be good - is
> it worth installing them & rewiring given that the car
> has factory AC, a radio, and I plan to add spot & fog
> lights?? Right now I need to get her running to use as
> a daily driver while my Subaru has her head gaskets replaced
> - late in May (assuming the ash cloud goes away) a friend is
> coming over from the UK to help me sort my cars for the
> move,and at that time we could fit a GM unit or such.
>
> TIA for any help - apologies if I've asked this question
> before.
>
> Am really looking forward to meeting the NY/NE folks -
> sorry I will miss RoveAmerica this year, but we will be
> there next year!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
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From suzieq at senet.com.au Tue Apr 20 22:13:57 2010
From: suzieq at senet.com.au (Sue and Shaun McKenzie)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:43:57 +0930
Subject: [Rovernet ] Does it work
Message-ID: <48FB8542725C4BFDB53C3D1BB69BBA95@computer>
Shaun in Australia making sure it works.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 22:53:58 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:53:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Does it work
In-Reply-To: <48FB8542725C4BFDB53C3D1BB69BBA95@computer>
Message-ID: <589348.44072.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
It works for me.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Sue and Shaun McKenzie <suzieq at senet.com.au> wrote:
> From: Sue and Shaun McKenzie <suzieq at senet.com.au>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Does it work
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 7:13 PM
> Shaun in Australia making sure it
> works.
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From lafbery at telus.net Tue Apr 20 23:17:13 2010
From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:17:13 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Does it work
In-Reply-To: <589348.44072.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <589348.44072.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1E6399FBE00F4171A7356AD53CE9C631@ChloePC>
Hi Eric,
I've had no trouble at all through all of this.
Barry
P2
P3
P5
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Does it work
> It works for me.
> Eric
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
> --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Sue and Shaun McKenzie <suzieq at senet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> From: Sue and Shaun McKenzie <suzieq at senet.com.au>
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Does it work
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Received: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 7:13 PM
>> Shaun in Australia making sure it
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 23:27:05 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:27:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Does it work
In-Reply-To: <1E6399FBE00F4171A7356AD53CE9C631@ChloePC>
Message-ID: <654710.68685.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks for the feedback.
There have been some Internet Service Providers who may have been using an anti-Spam list on which the IP address of our current web host resides probably due to one of their customers creating Spam. However, if the technical service of a web host does not step in and deal with the problem, all the websites using that shared IP address become blacklisted.
The RCCC and the Rovernet will move to a more reputable firm. That may take a few weeks.
Then again, some subscribers who reported a stoppage, have had their service restored. Sounds like British Rail in the early 60's. LOL
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Barry & Shirley Lafbery <lafbery at telus.net> wrote:
> From: Barry & Shirley Lafbery <lafbery at telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Does it work
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 8:17 PM
> Hi Eric,
> ? ? ? ???I've had no trouble
> at all through all of this.
>
> Barry
> P2
> P3
> P5
>
>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Does it work
>
>
> > It works for me.
> > Eric
> >
> > "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of
> Brian, 1979;
> > "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy
> Grail, 1975
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Sue and Shaun McKenzie <suzieq at senet.com.au>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Sue and Shaun McKenzie <suzieq at senet.com.au>
> >> Subject: [Rovernet ] Does it work
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Received: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 7:13 PM
> >> Shaun in Australia making sure it
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Tue Apr 20 23:34:31 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (vmitps at netspace.net.au)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Does it work
In-Reply-To: <654710.68685.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <654710.68685.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1271820871.4bce7247c70ee@webmail.netspace.net.au>
The most feared announcement in Sydney:
"The trains are running late and out of timetable order."
That's assuming you can understand the announcement, which is always done by an
immigrant with a heavy accent.
PVS
>
> Then again, some subscribers who reported a stoppage, have had their service
> restored. Sounds like British Rail in the early 60's. LOL
>
> Eric
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed Apr 21 06:45:09 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:45:09 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Do you like it?
In-Reply-To: <1E6399FBE00F4171A7356AD53CE9C631@ChloePC>
References: <589348.44072.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<1E6399FBE00F4171A7356AD53CE9C631@ChloePC>
Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE3022329C0@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel>
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270562482607&fromMakeT
rack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:it
Do you like it?
It looks very original, fit for a trip in the center.
Best regardss, gianluca.
From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Wed Apr 21 20:57:46 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:57:46 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Still trying to receive and 2200 rebore
Message-ID: <BAY119-W2187CC2CDCEE51B0E293F5DE080@phx.gbl>
Just seeing if i receive any posts yet....still not getting any........Just wondering what the amount the 2000 block has to be bored out to accept 2200 pistons....approx....they have the pistons for the exact size....just my piece of mind
Cheers
Bill Robertson
_________________________________________________________________
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 21:31:37 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:31:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Still trying to receive and 2200 rebore
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W2187CC2CDCEE51B0E293F5DE080@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <930474.88155.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Bill,
I received this message through the Rovernet system.
I have added some advice to members at the bottom of the home page of the Rovernet, here:
http://www.rovernet.ca/
Write to me offline and I will give you the email address of someone on this list who rebored my 2000 into a 2200 standard. If he is willing to make this information public, I could post it on the RCCC website under "Practical Tips".
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Wed, 4/21/10, Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Still trying to receive and 2200 rebore
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Received: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 5:57 PM
>
> Just seeing if i receive any posts yet....still not getting
> any........Just wondering what the amount the 2000 block has
> to be bored out to accept 2200 pistons....approx....they
> have the pistons for the exact size....just my piece of
> mind
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill Robertson
>
>
> ???
> ????????
> ?????? ???
> ?
> _________________________________________________________________
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 21:34:05 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:34:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Still trying to receive and 2200 rebore
In-Reply-To: <930474.88155.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2054.26685.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Sorry,
I should have said, "......in the Club...." not "....... on this list...."
Eric
PS. Caught this after I read the post via the server :-(
From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Sat Apr 24 12:05:19 2010
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:05:19 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
Message-ID: <COL111-DS17ADEC89ABBA1437B76C5283060@phx.gbl>
Testing
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Apr 24 13:41:49 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS17ADEC89ABBA1437B76C5283060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <210708.68172.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Got this test. Are you receiving or has MSN joined changed their anti-Spam anti-mailing list routine as well.
Eric
"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
--- On Sat, 4/24/10, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE <lacpsyd6 at msn.com> wrote:
> From: LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Received: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 9:05 AM
> Testing
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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From slatskars at comcast.net Sat Apr 24 13:42:25 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
In-Reply-To: <COL111-DS17ADEC89ABBA1437B76C5283060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <71312760.9870311272130945393.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Test good!
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:05:19 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
Testing
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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From david at davidwalter.net Sat Apr 24 14:08:18 2010
From: david at davidwalter.net (David Walter)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:08:18 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
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Test good
David
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> Test good!
>
> Slats
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sat Apr 24 14:13:25 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:13:25 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
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Ok
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
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Gesendet: Samstag, 24. April 2010 20:08
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet ] Test
> Test good
>
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>> Test good!
>>
>> Slats
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>> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sun Apr 25 05:17:41 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:17:41 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Italian P6 3500 S
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<48C00AD602034F4CB415180B64C047B6@rw>
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http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=bhc33shk2dqe
Seems that the seats were re-covered
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon Apr 26 13:20:41 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:20:41 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: English 200TC in lunar grey
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http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300419538483&ssPageNam
e=STRK:MEWAX:IT
rover 2000tc p6 in lunar grey,rover is in very good condition has mot
till march next year,and has historic road tax (free )has large history
file,hand books,workshop manuals.body work in very good condition, but
needs slight paint work repairs drivers seat in poor condition.please
call me on 07743444934 ,would rather bidders to view ,to avoid change of
mind after bidding.many thanks .hi regards a few emails on mileage
speedo must of gone back to 0 in 1990 when the mileage was 96,962. rover
has many replacement parts over the years brakes calipers stainless
exhaust ,have many receipts to prove all parts,and at least 20 old mots
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de
Inviato: domenica 25 aprile 2010 11.18
A: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Oggetto: [Rovernet ] Italian P6 3500 S
http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=bhc33shk2dqe
Seems that the seats were re-covered
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon Apr 26 19:06:39 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:06:39 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: English 200TC in lunar grey
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:20:41 +0200, you wrote:
>
>
>http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300419538483&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
>
And an early model 3500 Vitesse
http://cgi.ebay.it/ROVER-3500-SD1-VITESSE_W0QQitemZ150436130594QQ
Cheers,
Peter H
From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Mon Apr 26 21:16:16 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:16:16 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 1
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I'm now receiving........thanks for all your efforts
Bill Robertson
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> 5. Re: Test (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
> 6. Italian P6 3500 S (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:05:19 -0600
> From: "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
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> Testing
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> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Test
> Message-ID: <210708.68172.qm at web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> Got this test. Are you receiving or has MSN joined changed their anti-Spam anti-mailing list routine as well.
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/24/10, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE <lacpsyd6 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > From: LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
> > Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
> > To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Received: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 9:05 AM
> > Testing
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC)
> From: slatskars at comcast.net
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> Test good!
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:05:19 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
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> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:08:18 -0700
> From: "David Walter" <david at davidwalter.net>
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Test
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> Test good
>
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <slatskars at comcast.net>
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:42 AM
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>
> > Test good!
> >
> > Slats
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
> > To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:05:19 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:13:25 +0200
> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Test
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> Ok
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
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>
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "David Walter" <david at davidwalter.net>
> An: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 24. April 2010 20:08
> Betreff: Re: [Rovernet ] Test
>
>
> > Test good
> >
> > David
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <slatskars at comcast.net>
> > To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Test
> >
> >
> >> Test good!
> >>
> >> Slats
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
> >> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:05:19 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:17:41 +0200
> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Italian P6 3500 S
> Message-ID: <4AEDBE2C22C2485CA1246A4661D5AA09 at rw>
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>
> http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=bhc33shk2dqe
>
> Seems that the seats were re-covered
>
>
> Rudiger
> www.RoverP6.info
>
>
>
>
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Mon Apr 26 21:18:53 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:18:53 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Repost 3500S P6 servo seals
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Hi all ''''not sure that my message got out.......i need the 2 seals or grommetts for my brake servo that hold the non return valves,,,,,,,,,,anyone know where to get them....parts book calls for one but they are both the same size
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Apr 26 21:43:22 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:43:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 1
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<BAY119-W35B49E3D621F401D5243FCDE030@phx.gbl>
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Bill,
WHEW!
So,....... are you coming to?RoveAmerica '10 where we can all commiserate about the vagaries of Internet service?? :-)
Eric
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
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To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 6:16:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 1
I'm now receiving........thanks for all your efforts
Bill Robertson
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> 4. Re: Test (David Walter)
> 5. Re: Test (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
> 6. Italian P6 3500 S (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:05:19 -0600
> From: "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
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> Testing
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Test
> Message-ID: <210708.68172.qm at web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> Got this test. Are you receiving or has MSN joined changed their anti-Spam anti-mailing list routine as well.
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
> "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/24/10, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE <lacpsyd6 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > From: LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
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> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 24. April 2010 20:08
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> >> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:17:41 +0200
> From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
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> Subject: [Rovernet ] Italian P6 3500 S
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Apr 26 21:46:23 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:46:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Repost 3500S P6 servo seals
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Bill,
I lost track.
Are you trying to replace the large grommet in the servo can that holds the non-return valve or are you trying to replace two grommets in two cans?
Otherwise, I only know of one grommet per can.
Eric
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
From: Bill Robertson <rover2000nut at hotmail.com>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 6:18:53 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] Repost 3500S P6 servo seals
Hi all ''''not sure that my message got out.......i need the 2 seals or grommetts for my brake servo that hold the non return valves,,,,,,,,,,anyone know where to get them....parts book calls for one but they are both the same size
Thanks
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Tue Apr 27 09:58:31 2010
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:58:31 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 1
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Behalf Of Eric Russell
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 1
Bill,
WHEW!
So,....... are you coming to?RoveAmerica '10 where we can all commiserate
about the vagaries of Internet service?? :-)
Eric
?"Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
"I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975
----- Original Message ----
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To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 6:16:16 PM
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I'm now receiving........thanks for all your efforts
Bill Robertson
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:05:19 -0600
> From: "LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE" <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
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> To: "The Rover Car ......." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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> Got this test. Are you receiving or has MSN joined changed their anti-Spam
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> Eric
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> "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979;
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> --- On Sat, 4/24/10, LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
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> > From: LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
> > Subject: [Rovernet ] Test
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> >> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:17:41 +0200
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> Subject: [Rovernet ] Italian P6 3500 S
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> Seems that the seats were re-covered
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> Rudiger
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Thu Apr 29 08:35:29 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:35:29 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] [Rover_net] 3500S brake servo
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Message-ID: <4BD97D11.3000309@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Hi Bill,
This source offers most 3500S servo and master cylinder parts including
the push rod for the servo:
https://www.xksunlimited.com/xks/merchant.ihtml?id=49&step=2
See "E-type master cylinders and servos"
They don't list the gromets that you are looking for though -- let us
know if you find something that works.
--Steve
Bill wrote:
> i need 2 of the grommetts for the brake servo non return valves...listed in the parts book as seals for non return valve...Rover part # 606031..........or LO3865-733.....anyone know where to get them....mine are cracked.....i guess i could just look for grommetts that fit but i'd like the real thing if possible
> Thanks
> bill Robertson
>
>
>
>
>