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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 1 01:27:12 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:27:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Starting a blog
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Very well done, Peter.
Checked out the blog and read your accounts and saw your pictures. Seemed like an excellent combination of media.
Eric
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Starting a blog
Hi Den and members,
To start a blog, try Blogger.com: https://www.blogger.com/start
It is quite simple and even I have managed to start one (see below link) to
record the work done on my car:
http://peter-myroverp6b.blogspot.com/
Happy blogging...
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 1 01:32:28 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:32:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blogs and such
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We have a members page where we can provide hot links to RCCC members' blogs and videos. At the moment only Dave LaChance is presented but if any other RCCC members on the Rovernet have set up a blog or have a YouTube video, let me know and I'll prepare the linkage.
Here ya go for now :-)
http://www.roverclub.ca/blogsandvideos.htm
Eric
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From peter_m at amnet.net.au Mon Feb 1 04:05:54 2010
From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:05:54 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blogs and such
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Thanks Eric,
I'd be grateful if you would register my blog which is located at
http://peter-myroverp6b.blogspot.com/
My early preference was for a blog because of the ability to add text to
explain the pictures.
I should add that I have just come in from collecting the Rover which now
has a new 3-core radiator. I'll report in a separate post once we have had
some hot weather in which to test it.
Cheers
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:56:07 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blogs and such
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You mean it ever gets cool in Perth?
> Thanks Eric,
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> I'd be grateful if you would register my blog which is located at
> http://peter-myroverp6b.blogspot.com/
>
> My early preference was for a blog because of the ability to add text to
> explain the pictures.
>
> I should add that I have just come in from collecting the Rover which now
> has a new 3-core radiator. I'll report in a separate post once we have had
> some hot weather in which to test it.
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> Cheers
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> Peter Mitchell
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Mon Feb 1 06:15:43 2010
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:15:43 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Blogs and such
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Hi Eric
Please add my blog to the link www.irishroversbooks.com
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Tue Feb 2 20:47:07 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:47:07 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Some Events Photos
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Cheers,
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From jaguru at bellsouth.net Tue Feb 2 22:17:56 2010
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:17:56 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Need a 3500S servo
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I need a used 3500S servo. I would assume it needs to be rebuilt. Does
anyone hve one? Thank you, James Dean, Ft. Lauderdale
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> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:18:18 +0800, you wrote:
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>>Hi Den and members,
>>
>>To start a blog, try Blogger.com: https://www.blogger.com/start
>
> If you dont want to go the way of Blogging, you can just open a photo
> account with Flickr. I have a couple of Pro accounts including one for
> RCCA, but normal ones are free. You just upload your photos and you
> can choose who you want to view them.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/
>
>
> Cheers,
>
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From kkinard at att.net Wed Feb 3 08:38:15 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:38:15 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Need a 3500S servo
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James Dean wrote:
> I need a used 3500S servo. I would assume it needs to be rebuilt. Does
> anyone hve one? Thank you, James Dean, Ft. Lauderdale
Hi James,
I have several. Is the old one missing entirely? Just a rebuildable
core would be rather expensive. Do you need the "can" or the slave
cylinder or both?
Roverly,
Kent K.
From den at aachenkennels.com Thu Feb 4 08:46:16 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:46:16 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] don't build them like they used to
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Looks like these two are having fun, wait till you see the fuel tank.
Methinks there is another special in the making, wonder what they will
do with it.
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVwBOlCSPx8
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From slatskars at comcast.net Thu Feb 4 09:32:08 2010
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] don't build them like they used to
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I have done a similar thing to move my MGBGT on my property. I used the fuel tank off of my old riding mower for a gravity feed fuel supply/ It had a connection coming out of the lower front. Worked fine, that and a jumper battery. Saves a lot of hassle to get on somewhere close by under its own power.
Slats
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Looks like these two are having fun, wait till you see the fuel tank.
Methinks there is another special in the making, wonder what they will do with it.
. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVwBOlCSPx8
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Bush Mechanics fuel tank.
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> I have done a similar thing to move my MGBGT on my property. I used the fuel tank off of my old riding mower for a gravity feed fuel supply/ It had a connection coming out of the lower front. Worked fine, that and a jumper battery. Saves a lot of hassle to get on somewhere close by under its own power.
I put fuel in the windscreen washer tank on my Rover 2000, so I could drive it back into the shed, while the fuel tank was out being cleaned and lined. It worked fine, you just had to keep pressing the windscreen washer switch when the motor started to lean out a bit.
I first saw this particular trick on a program called "bush mechanics", back in 2001.
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] don't build them like they used to
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Bush Mechanics was one of the funniest shows I have seen.
They are driving a clapped out EJ Holden wagon through the NT desert and hit a washout, Something breaks and it stops.
I'd get a bit panicky at that point, broken in 33 degree heat in a desert...
Not them. Just sit in the car and argue about whose fault it was...
PVS
I first saw this particular trick on a program called "bush mechanics", back in 2001.
James.
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From den at aachenkennels.com Thu Feb 4 18:34:17 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 08:34:17 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] You have received a YouTube video!
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081D64@Server.adoptsec.local>
Not sure if I sent this one.
Not for me but a very nice car all the same. I say not for me as I
would have used a 3.9 Rover engine running on gas..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhxnvNZqiY
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From ABoasberg at webtv.net Thu Feb 4 20:45:28 2010
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:45:28 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Core
In-Reply-To: Ray Wilkins <raymond.wilkins@bigpond.com>'s message of Fri, 05
Feb 2010 09:54:58 +1100
Message-ID: <5562-4B6B7838-2327@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>
I need a heater core for my 1969 Rover TC 2000.
Thanks for all suggestions.
Albert
From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Thu Feb 4 21:26:24 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 18:26:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Core
In-Reply-To: <5562-4B6B7838-2327@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>
References: <5562-4B6B7838-2327@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>
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I may have one, but it will be late Sat or Sun before I can look for it.
Jim
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Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 8:45:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Core
I need a heater core for my 1969 Rover TC 2000.
Thanks for all suggestions.
Albert
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From vern at inkspotco.com Thu Feb 4 21:31:43 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 18:31:43 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Core
In-Reply-To: <5562-4B6B7838-2327@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>
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Albert
Are you sure it cannot be repaired? Does it leak or is there no heat?
Taking the heater out is a major chore, in the sense that it's fiddly and you have to take off lots of other stuff. If you really do need a core, no problem there.
Yours
Vern
On 2010-02-04, at 5:45 PM, Albert Boasberg wrote:
> I need a heater core for my 1969 Rover TC 2000.
>
> Thanks for all suggestions.
>
> Albert
>
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Fri Feb 5 06:13:30 2010
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 07:13:30 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Core
References: <5562-4B6B7838-2327@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>
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Hi Albert
I have three or four here om PEI if you can;t find one closer to home.
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From ABoasberg at webtv.net Fri Feb 5 09:09:17 2010
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 06:09:17 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Core
In-Reply-To: Vern Klukas <vern@inkspotco.com>'s message of Thu, 4 Feb 2010
18:31:43 -0800
Message-ID: <18382-4B6C268D-42@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>
Dear Vern:
The heater core I have does give off warmth, but it leaks.
Thanks for any suggestions you might have to replace it.
Best regards,
Albert
From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Fri Feb 5 12:27:58 2010
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:27:58 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Cores.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1265389219.31788.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1265389219.31788.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <SNT105-W12FAD379C7FFB480980768E540@phx.gbl>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:45:28 -0800
> From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
> To: raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com, rovernet at rovernet.ca (The original
> list for Rover car enthusiasts.)
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Core
> Message-ID: <5562-4B6B7838-2327 at storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII
>
> I need a heater core for my 1969 Rover TC 2000.
>
> Thanks for all suggestions.
>
> Albert
>
*************************
JR Wadhams has them on an exchange basis. 35 pounds for one which has been cleaned out, or 75 pounds for one which has been re-cored. Have you tired taking the core you have to a radiator repair shop and see if they can repair it, or re-core it? I suspect that the blower unit on the Rover 2000 is common to a few other cars, and sometimes they can match the core part to matrixes which are still in production. See if you can find a radiator repair shop which specialises in british cars a bit.
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From rovercar at comcast.net Fri Feb 5 17:48:27 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:48:27 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater Cores.
In-Reply-To: <SNT105-W12FAD379C7FFB480980768E540@phx.gbl>
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>
> JR Wadhams has them on an exchange basis. 35 pounds for one which has
> been cleaned out, or 75 pounds for one which has been re-cored. Have
> you tired taking the core you have to a radiator repair shop and see
> if they can repair it, or re-core it? I suspect that the blower unit
> on the Rover 2000 is common to a few other cars, and sometimes they
> can match the core part to matrixes which are still in production. See
> if you can find a radiator repair shop which specialises in british
> cars a bit.
>
> James.
>
Since Albert is in California, Wadhams doesn't seem to make sense.
Albert, I'm afraid you'll have to do the disassembly and then see what
your options are. I'd be interested to hear from others in the States
about radiator repair shops in your area. The shops in mine don't seem
to be interested in repairing old metal radiators, anymore. I have
replaced a couple of heater cores in American Chevrolets from the
mid-90's and have been surprised at how compact and inexpensive the
radiator cores have been ($20-30 USD). If I had Albert's problem, I
would probably see if I find a new generic replacement such as this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PLI-399204/?rtype=10
or maybe an MGB core:
http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/mg/full.aspx?Page=90
or take it to a nice NAPA store and ask for something similar from their
stock.
Any way you go, you have to get the old one out.
Glen
From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sat Feb 6 07:46:54 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:46:54 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 trike
References: <18382-4B6C268D-42@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <82FFEDC2FB344B99833AE91D99B0E86E@rw>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/austin7nut/4332387198/
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Sat Feb 6 10:11:17 2010
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:11:17 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Heater cores.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1265389219.31788.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1265389219.31788.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <SNT105-W44FC4837663A4FDC56DB478E530@phx.gbl>
> JR Wadhams has them on an exchange basis. 35 pounds for one which has
> been cleaned out, or 75 pounds for one which has been re-cored. Have
> you tired taking the core you have to a radiator repair shop and see
> if they can repair it, or re-core it? I suspect that the blower unit
> on the Rover 2000 is common to a few other cars, and sometimes they
> can match the core part to matrixes which are still in production. See
> if you can find a radiator repair shop which specialises in british
> cars a bit.
>
> James.
>
>Since Albert is in California, Wadhams doesn't seem to make sense.
>Albert, I'm afraid you'll have to do the disassembly and then see what
>your options are. I'd be interested to hear from others in the States
>about radiator repair shops in your area. The shops in mine don't seem
>to be interested in repairing old metal radiators, anymore. I have
>replaced a couple of heater cores in American Chevrolets from the
>mid-90's and have been surprised at how compact and inexpensive the
>radiator cores have been ($20-30 USD). If I had Albert's problem, I
>would probably see if I find a new generic replacement such as this:
>http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PLI-399204/?rtype=10
>or maybe an MGB core:
>http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/mg/full.aspx?Page=90
>or take it to a nice NAPA store and ask for something similar from their
>stock.
>Any way you go, you have to get the old one out.
>Glen
There is a guy in Penn yan named Ron who owns Radiator World. He checked the radiator on my Rover 2000,
for a very reasonable price. He cleaned out the fuel tank and lined it. I also had a radiator on a Komatsu
forklift fixed by him. It had a few leaks which he soldered up. He does a lot of work on tractor cores,
which are all metal of course.
His number if anyone could use him is (315) 536-2745. He is on 140 South Street, Penn Yan. Not sure how
economical to ship a Radiator to him, but a heater core would not be too bad.
If you do match up a heater core, can you let us know so Hank and myself can add it to the database of
interchanges. Does your local NAPA have intelligent life? They can be very helpful if the do, and completely
useless if the do not have intelegent life.
James.
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From ktcontino at yahoo.com Sat Feb 6 10:58:47 2010
From: ktcontino at yahoo.com (Kristopher Contino)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:58:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover p4
Message-ID: <206010.13574.qm@web112318.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
I have a rover 1954 P4 75 that I have to get rid of ASAP. I have title in hand but can no longer keep this car in storage. Best offer. Kris
From peterispeter at comcast.net Sat Feb 6 10:52:23 2010
From: peterispeter at comcast.net (peter king)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:52:23 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Creams or Conditioners for Leather
Car Seats
In-Reply-To: <455565.36751.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: 25 Jan
<BAY120-W13C5095B3D75E94FE1BBD3B85D0@phx.gbl><000601ca9f75$260d3430$72279c90$@ca>
<4B60B2F7.5070105@comcast.net>
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<4B611B5F.5000401@comcast.net>
<455565.36751.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A0A4017A-7D34-4E01-BE9E-DA1E971C779B@comcast.net>
Another product to consider is Leatherique leather conditioner. You
can look them up on the web. They carry cleaners, conditioners and
dyes, which they will custom mix to your sample. The conditioning
product comes in quart bottles, and I used it on my MKIII cardboard-
stiff back seat tops and other dry areas. I applied it by hand
several times in warm weather, and it brought the leather back to a
pliable condition.
Peter
From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 11:25:52 2010
From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 08:25:52 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover p4
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Where are you and where is the car?
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Kristopher Contino <ktcontino at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have a rover 1954 P4 75 that I have to get rid of ASAP. I have title in hand but can no longer keep this car in storage. Best offer. ?Kris
From rababiuk at telusplanet.net Sat Feb 6 11:53:14 2010
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 09:53:14 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] was leather conditioner,
now vinyl/rubber conditioner
Message-ID: <C11C0BA8-8B86-452D-A338-73724D12B8AD@telusplanet.net>
I was intrigued by all the various responses for the best conditioners
for leather seats, but was unable to contribute as my car has a
complete vinyl interior.
The vinyl on my seats is in good shape but is sun faded in many areas.
One of my goals for the coming summer is to clean and prep my interior
and use vinyl dye to restore the color.
SEM makes the cleaner, prep and many colors of dye,
of which an appropriate tan shade seems to be available. Has anyone
else colored their seats?
After doing this, I would like to keep the seats in good nick. What
conditioners are being used by those with vinyl seats?
My cars previous owner had purchased many rubber seals and I have
purchased some more recently.
What is the best dressing to keep these rubber parts in good shape?
Are there any tried and true products to restore any of the original
1970's rubber still on the car such as sill bungs, gearbox filler
grommet etc?
Thanks for any assistance.
Roy
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Feb 6 13:05:48 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:05:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] was leather conditioner,
now vinyl/rubber conditioner
In-Reply-To: <C11C0BA8-8B86-452D-A338-73724D12B8AD@telusplanet.net>
References: <C11C0BA8-8B86-452D-A338-73724D12B8AD@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <734522.14625.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Roy,
I would suggest Meguires Products available in Canada.
Ref: http://www.meguiars.com/
According to the people who painted my Rover, Meguires was painter friendly because it must avoid silicone.
I found that the vinyl and plastic spray worked well with rubber and silicone rubber seals on the car.
The polishes work well. There is a special way they produce product so that the compound is more agressive straight from the bottle and then breaks down. I usually followed the number scheme on the bottle. I found out, much later, that the the Yellow Wax should be applied over the Show Car polish as it protects against the elements longer.
Back to vinyl......... Meguires Vinyl/Rubber protectant.
AUTOGLYM is another excellent line of product but it is not available as easily as Meguires.
http://www.autoglym.co.uk/enGB/default.asp
Their leather care product is excellent but you noted that you had leather seats. They also have a vinyl and rubber spray.
Best wishes,
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 8:53:14 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] was leather conditioner, now vinyl/rubber conditioner
I was intrigued by all the various responses for the best conditioners for leather seats, but was unable to contribute as my car has a complete vinyl interior.
The vinyl on my seats is in good shape but is sun faded in many areas.
One of my goals for the coming summer is to clean and prep my interior and use vinyl dye to restore the color.
SEM makes the cleaner, prep and many colors of dye,
of which an appropriate tan shade seems to be available. Has anyone else colored their seats?
After doing this, I would like to keep the seats in good nick. What conditioners are being used by those with vinyl seats?
My cars previous owner had purchased many rubber seals and I have purchased some more recently.
What is the best dressing to keep these rubber parts in good shape?
Are there any tried and true products to restore any of the original 1970's rubber still on the car such as sill bungs, gearbox filler grommet etc?
Thanks for any assistance.
Roy
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From burkhaj at earthlink.net Sat Feb 6 13:29:10 2010
From: burkhaj at earthlink.net (John Burkhard)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:29:10 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover p4
Message-ID: <380-22010266182910937@earthlink.net>
Where is your P4 and what sort of shape is it in?
> [Original Message]
> From: Kristopher Contino <ktcontino at yahoo.com>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: 2/6/2010 7:58:47 AM
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover p4
>
> I have a rover 1954 P4 75 that I have to get rid of ASAP. I have title in
hand but can no longer keep this car in storage. Best offer. Kris
>
>
>
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Feb 6 13:58:48 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:58:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] was leather conditioner,
now vinyl/rubber conditioner TYPO corrected
In-Reply-To: <734522.14625.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C11C0BA8-8B86-452D-A338-73724D12B8AD@telusplanet.net>
<734522.14625.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <382953.42183.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Typo
Should have read:
'Their leather care product is excellent but you noted that you had *VINYL* seats. They also have a vinyl and rubber spray.'
Best wishes,
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Feb 6 16:12:58 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:12:58 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] vinyl/rubber conditioner
In-Reply-To: <382953.42183.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C11C0BA8-8B86-452D-A338-73724D12B8AD@telusplanet.net> <734522.14625.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<382953.42183.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B6DDB5A.2070706@comcast.net>
Regarding rubber, if you have an electronics or audio-video supply shop
nearby, you might want to see if they have bottles of a liquid intended
to clean and condition rubber drive wheels such as you might have in a
tape machine. I had a bottle of this stuff that I used on small rubber
parts and sometimes wiped across window gaskets that seemed to condition
and blacken the rubber nicely. There was no pigment in this fluid; it
was clear in the bottle.
Glen
From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sat Feb 6 17:17:53 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 23:17:53 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] P6 TC video clip
References: <18382-4B6C268D-42@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <B9658E38D485439E85099A9B06F15535@rw>
http://www.hemmings.com/users/140338/video/81.html
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sat Feb 6 19:05:29 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:05:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
Message-ID: <610234.51676.qm@web110305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Does anyone make one?
Alternately, does anyone know of a starter for a more popular car which interchanges with the P6? (I'm thinking that if the OEM Rover starter is the same as [for example only] an Austin-Healey 3000 or something that I may be able to find a gear reduction starter for a Healey 3000 which will also fit the Rover....
I could have sworn that I saw a p6 2000 advertised on the RCC's website years ago which said it was fitted with a gear reduction starter....
Nathan
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Feb 6 19:44:04 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:44:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
In-Reply-To: <610234.51676.qm@web110305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Here's what I found:
1. On the bottom of every Rovernet message, is a link to the old Rovernet archives. I was able to link up all the old archives with software that allows the archives to be better searchable than the current archives.
2. So, I searched for "Gear reduction starters"
3. I had quite a selection of old messages to choose so I clicked on one. That lead me to a hot link that someone supplied as a suggestion.
4. Here's the hotlink:
http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
To: NEW RovernetRovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 4:05:29 PM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
Does anyone make one?
Alternately, does anyone know of a starter for a more popular car which interchanges with the P6? (I'm thinking that if the OEM Rover starter is the same as [for example only] an Austin-Healey 3000 or something that I may be able to find a gear reduction starter for a Healey 3000 which will also fit the Rover....
I could have sworn that I saw a p6 2000 advertised on the RCC's website years ago which said it was fitted with a gear reduction starter....
Nathan
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From den at aachenkennels.com Sat Feb 6 20:49:24 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:49:24 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
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For the next club magazine..
http://jalopnik.com/399525/amazing-barn-find-aussie-man-hoards-297-class
ic-cars
[Den Gallacher]
From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sat Feb 6 21:02:10 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:02:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
In-Reply-To: <501151.31383.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <902010.81328.qm@web110312.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Thanks for looking, Eric. Was that a gentle hint that I should have searched the archives myself? Anyway, I never knew how to do that, but now I do. Thanks! I'll try contacting TS Imported and see what they can do.
Nathan
--- On Sat, 2/6/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 6:44 PM
> Here's what I found:
> 1. On the bottom of every Rovernet message, is a link to
> the old Rovernet archives. I was able to link up all the old
> archives with software that allows the archives to be better
> searchable than the current archives.
>
> 2. So, I searched for "Gear reduction starters"
>
> 3. I had quite a selection of old messages to choose so I
> clicked on one. That lead me to a hot link that someone
> supplied as a suggestion.
>
> 4. Here's the hotlink:
> http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop
> (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> To: NEW RovernetRovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 4:05:29 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter
> for 2000TC
>
> Does anyone make one?
>
> Alternately, does anyone know of a starter for a more
> popular car which interchanges with the P6? (I'm thinking
> that if the OEM Rover starter is the same as [for example
> only] an Austin-Healey 3000 or something that I may be able
> to find a gear reduction starter for a Healey 3000 which
> will also fit the Rover....
>
> I could have sworn that I saw a p6 2000 advertised on the
> RCC's website years ago which said it was fitted with a gear
> reduction starter....
>
>
> Nathan
>
>
> ? ? ?
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Feb 6 22:55:22 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:55:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Was: Gear reduction starter for 2000TC;
now Rovernet archives
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No.
We have so many new members who weren't with us from the beginning.
We have had to move Rovernet servers over the years and the have suffered Rovernet server crashes so that the original archives were lost.
The current Rovernet has a set of archives that is maintained by the software but only from its date of inception at the <rovernet.ca> address.
The previous server administrators were willing to co-ordinate with me and send me the last available archives in a form which I could salvage. I was able to set this up with software which provides a searchable index.
The current software, called "Mailman" sets up its own archive which is not so easily searchable as the earlier ones which use third party software to provide information. Very few people would know that. ie. Very few people would know that there is a vast amount of information available to members but they have to search two different archives in two different ways.
Hopefully, that clarifies the resources which are available to subscribers of the Rovernet.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 6:02:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
Thanks for looking, Eric. Was that a gentle hint that I should have searched the archives myself? Anyway, I never knew how to do that, but now I do. Thanks! I'll try contacting TS Imported and see what they can do.
Nathan
--- On Sat, 2/6/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 6:44 PM
> Here's what I found:
> 1. On the bottom of every Rovernet message, is a link to
> the old Rovernet archives. I was able to link up all the old
> archives with software that allows the archives to be better
> searchable than the current archives.
>
> 2. So, I searched for "Gear reduction starters"
>
> 3. I had quite a selection of old messages to choose so I
> clicked on one. That lead me to a hot link that someone
> supplied as a suggestion.
>
> 4. Here's the hotlink:
> http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop
> (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> To: NEW RovernetRovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 4:05:29 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter
> for 2000TC
>
> Does anyone make one?
>
> Alternately, does anyone know of a starter for a more
> popular car which interchanges with the P6? (I'm thinking
> that if the OEM Rover starter is the same as [for example
> only] an Austin-Healey 3000 or something that I may be able
> to find a gear reduction starter for a Healey 3000 which
> will also fit the Rover....
>
> I could have sworn that I saw a p6 2000 advertised on the
> RCC's website years ago which said it was fitted with a gear
> reduction starter....
>
>
> Nathan
>
>
>
>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Sun Feb 7 00:53:45 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 05:53:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
In-Reply-To: <902010.81328.qm@web110312.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Moss Motors carries gear reduction starters for MGB's at $280.00 US. I do not know if that will fit a P-6.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Obuch" <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2010 6:02:10 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
Thanks for looking, Eric. Was that a gentle hint that I should have searched the archives myself? Anyway, I never knew how to do that, but now I do. Thanks! I'll try contacting TS Imported and see what they can do.
Nathan
--- On Sat, 2/6/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 6:44 PM
> Here's what I found:
> 1. On the bottom of every Rovernet message, is a link to
> the old Rovernet archives. I was able to link up all the old
> archives with software that allows the archives to be better
> searchable than the current archives.
>
> 2. So, I searched for "Gear reduction starters"
>
> 3. I had quite a selection of old messages to choose so I
> clicked on one. That lead me to a hot link that someone
> supplied as a suggestion.
>
> 4. Here's the hotlink:
> http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> ?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop
> (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> To: NEW RovernetRovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 4:05:29 PM
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter
> for 2000TC
>
> Does anyone make one?
>
> Alternately, does anyone know of a starter for a more
> popular car which interchanges with the P6? (I'm thinking
> that if the OEM Rover starter is the same as [for example
> only] an Austin-Healey 3000 or something that I may be able
> to find a gear reduction starter for a Healey 3000 which
> will also fit the Rover....
>
> I could have sworn that I saw a p6 2000 advertised on the
> RCC's website years ago which said it was fitted with a gear
> reduction starter....
>
>
> Nathan
>
>
> ? ? ?
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rovercar at comcast.net Sun Feb 7 02:39:39 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:39:39 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
In-Reply-To: <501151.31383.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <610234.51676.qm@web110305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<501151.31383.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B6E6E3B.5040803@comcast.net>
Eric Russell wrote:
> Here's the hotlink:
> http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/
>
> Eric
>
Ted's TSi website is moving like molasses! Has anyone gotten past the
basic framework of links? It's just loading and loading...
Ted definitely has gear reduction starters to fit the 3500S V8, but I
wasn't aware that he had them for the 2000 4-cyl, as well. He's mostly
into Rover V8 stuff as a result of racing TR8's and (I think) SD1's. He
deals with a lot of MGB V8 conversion people. One of the interesting
things that Ted can do is rebuild the little front/rear brake
proportioning valve on the SD1 to give more brake bias toward the rear.
Rover apparently wanted to avoid rear wheel lockup, and the front brakes
of the SD1 do almost all of the work. A bit more rear braking can
benefit a high performance SD1 but you need to rebore that little valve
body to get it. Ted seems to be a very decent sort of man, and very
knowledgeable.
Glen
From gjkzscruggs at verizon.net Sun Feb 7 11:02:46 2010
From: gjkzscruggs at verizon.net (Scruggs Family)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:02:46 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Vinyl coloring
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References: <mailman.18.1265508123.27710.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <008601caa80e$fdb07950$f9116bf0$@net>
A few years ago I tried a vinyl coloring product called "Molecu-Bond" on the
trim piece that goes under the rear window of my 2000 TC. Although I've yet
to install it I've left it in the sun for a few weeks and will occasionally
try to scratch it and it looks as good as when I applied it. Says that it
works on leather, vinyl and plastics. Their web site is
http://www.bryndana.com/ but I found it at a local Pep Boys. Note that it
comes in an array of colors.
Regards,
Gross Scruggs
Annapolis MD
From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sun Feb 7 11:49:05 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:49:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
In-Reply-To: <4B6E6E3B.5040803@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <828813.30975.qm@web110303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Yes, Glen, it appears TSI mostly lists starters for the V8.
Does anyone know the correct original Lucas p/n for the starter for a '69 2000 TC? It appears there are two versions (pre engaged and not) My Rover manual lists (for the TC) M45G-26164A and the pre-engaged version LU M418G. I'm unsure which is fitted to my car. Do these numbers cross reference to any more popular brit cars?
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 1:39 AM
> Eric Russell wrote:
> > Here's the hotlink:
> > http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/
> >
> > Eric
> >???
>
> Ted's TSi website is moving like molasses! Has anyone
> gotten past the basic framework of links? It's just loading
> and loading...
>
> Ted definitely has gear reduction starters to fit the 3500S
> V8, but I wasn't aware that he had them for the 2000 4-cyl,
> as well. He's mostly into Rover V8 stuff as a result of
> racing TR8's and (I think) SD1's. He deals with a lot of MGB
> V8 conversion people. One of the interesting things that Ted
> can do is rebuild the little front/rear brake proportioning
> valve on the SD1 to give more brake bias toward the rear.
> Rover apparently wanted to avoid rear wheel lockup, and the
> front brakes of the SD1 do almost all of the work. A bit
> more rear braking can benefit a high performance SD1 but you
> need to rebore that little valve body to get it. Ted seems
> to be a very decent sort of man, and very knowledgeable.
>
> Glen
>
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From fjcumberland at yahoo.com Sun Feb 7 11:57:27 2010
From: fjcumberland at yahoo.com (Jim Cumberland)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:57:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Vinyl coloring
In-Reply-To: <008601caa80e$fdb07950$f9116bf0$@net>
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<008601caa80e$fdb07950$f9116bf0$@net>
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Thanks - I was just looking to get some vinyl dye (was looking @ SEM) for some period sports seat covers.
________________________________
From: Scruggs Family <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 11:02:46 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Vinyl coloring
A few years ago I tried a vinyl coloring product called "Molecu-Bond" on the
trim piece that goes under the rear window of my 2000 TC. Although I've yet
to install it I've left it in the sun for a few weeks and will occasionally
try to scratch it and it looks as good as when I applied it. Says that it
works on leather, vinyl and plastics. Their web site is
http://www.bryndana.com/ but I found it at a local Pep Boys. Note that it
comes in an array of colors.
Regards,
Gross Scruggs
Annapolis MD
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Sun Feb 7 13:18:49 2010
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:18:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] don't build them like they used to
Message-ID: <146406.59675.qm@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Slats, et al, just did something similar to my 1956 Willys pickup that has been sitting in a garage for the last 10 years.
roland
--- On Thu, 2/4/10, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote:
From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] don't build them like they used to
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 6:32 AM
I have done a similar thing to move my MGBGT on my property. I used the fuel tank off of my old riding mower for a gravity feed fuel supply/ It had a connection coming out of the lower front. Worked fine, that and a jumper battery. Saves a lot of hassle to get on somewhere close by under its own power.
?
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Gallacher" <den at aachenkennels.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:46:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] don't build them like they used to
?
?
Looks like these two are having fun, wait till you see the fuel tank.
?
Methinks there is another special in the making, wonder what they will do with it.
?
?
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Sun Feb 7 17:01:10 2010
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:01:10 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
In-Reply-To: <828813.30975.qm@web110303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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A P4 105 starter works perfectly in my '69 2000 TC.
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:49:05 -0800
> From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
>
> Yes, Glen, it appears TSI mostly lists starters for the V8.
>
> Does anyone know the correct original Lucas p/n for the starter for a '69 2000 TC? It appears there are two versions (pre engaged and not) My Rover manual lists (for the TC) M45G-26164A and the pre-engaged version LU M418G. I'm unsure which is fitted to my car. Do these numbers cross reference to any more popular brit cars?
>
> Nathan
>
> --- On Sun, 2/7/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
> > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 1:39 AM
> > Eric Russell wrote:
> > > Here's the hotlink:
> > > http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
> > Ted's TSi website is moving like molasses! Has anyone
> > gotten past the basic framework of links? It's just loading
> > and loading...
> >
> > Ted definitely has gear reduction starters to fit the 3500S
> > V8, but I wasn't aware that he had them for the 2000 4-cyl,
> > as well. He's mostly into Rover V8 stuff as a result of
> > racing TR8's and (I think) SD1's. He deals with a lot of MGB
> > V8 conversion people. One of the interesting things that Ted
> > can do is rebuild the little front/rear brake proportioning
> > valve on the SD1 to give more brake bias toward the rear.
> > Rover apparently wanted to avoid rear wheel lockup, and the
> > front brakes of the SD1 do almost all of the work. A bit
> > more rear braking can benefit a high performance SD1 but you
> > need to rebore that little valve body to get it. Ted seems
> > to be a very decent sort of man, and very knowledgeable.
> >
> > Glen
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From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:59:48 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
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P4 work but theoretically shouldn't!
They have 10 tooth pinions, P6 have 11 teeth.
However I ran one in my TC for years and it was the most reliable.
PVS
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Sharpe
To: rover net
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
A P4 105 starter works perfectly in my '69 2000 TC.
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:49:05 -0800
> From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
>
> Yes, Glen, it appears TSI mostly lists starters for the V8.
>
> Does anyone know the correct original Lucas p/n for the starter for a '69 2000 TC? It appears there are two versions (pre engaged and not) My Rover manual lists (for the TC) M45G-26164A and the pre-engaged version LU M418G. I'm unsure which is fitted to my car. Do these numbers cross reference to any more popular brit cars?
>
> Nathan
>
> --- On Sun, 2/7/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
> > To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 1:39 AM
> > Eric Russell wrote:
> > > Here's the hotlink:
> > > http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
> > Ted's TSi website is moving like molasses! Has anyone
> > gotten past the basic framework of links? It's just loading
> > and loading...
> >
> > Ted definitely has gear reduction starters to fit the 3500S
> > V8, but I wasn't aware that he had them for the 2000 4-cyl,
> > as well. He's mostly into Rover V8 stuff as a result of
> > racing TR8's and (I think) SD1's. He deals with a lot of MGB
> > V8 conversion people. One of the interesting things that Ted
> > can do is rebuild the little front/rear brake proportioning
> > valve on the SD1 to give more brake bias toward the rear.
> > Rover apparently wanted to avoid rear wheel lockup, and the
> > front brakes of the SD1 do almost all of the work. A bit
> > more rear braking can benefit a high performance SD1 but you
> > need to rebore that little valve body to get it. Ted seems
> > to be a very decent sort of man, and very knowledgeable.
> >
> > Glen
> >
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Feb 7 20:00:10 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:00:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electronic Ignition
Message-ID: <6812.36768.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi,
I have revised our RCCC page on electronic ignition:
http://www.roverclub.ca/electronic.html
On the Classic Rover Forum in the UK,
Link here: http://www.roverclub.ca/links.htm
a subscriber, "Vaultsman", was interested in changing his ignition to a Pertronix electronic type. I referred him to our page which had a few experiences and pictures. He enjoyed what he read and offered his words and pictures on his experiences with his P6B. The appropriate permissions and credits have been given. You might like to subscribe to the Forum and read what goes on over there. They are also nice folk.
So,......... we are beginning to have RHD and LHD categories.
That opens the invitation to anyone else who would like to contribute to this resource. Have a look at the page and if you have experiences, words, and/or pictures which you could contribute to the world of electronic ignition, please let me know so that we can expand the variety for Rover folk. It could RHD or LHD, as you can see.
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sun Feb 7 20:46:08 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:46:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
In-Reply-To: <8791B129DC4B43C394945605FED856AE@Vista>
Message-ID: <888351.78544.qm@web110303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
I suppose the size and shape of the teeth is more important than the number of teeth!
Now if I could only locate a supplier of gear reduction starters for the P4 :-)
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> wrote:
> From: Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 5:59 PM
>
>
>
> #yiv2142836066 .hmmessage P {
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>
>
>
> P4 work but theoretically
> shouldn't!
> They have 10 tooth pinions, P6 have
> 11 teeth.
> However I ran one in my TC for
> years and it was the most
> reliable.
> ?
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message
> -----
> From:
> Richard
> Sharpe
> To: rover net
>
> Sent: Monday,
> February 08, 2010 9:01
> AM
> Subject: Re:
> [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
> Gear reduction starter for 2000TC
>
> A P4 105 starter works perfectly
> in?my?'69 2000
> TC.
> ?
> > Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:49:05 -0800
> > From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Subject:
> Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for
> 2000TC
> >
>
> > Yes, Glen, it appears TSI mostly lists starters for
> the V8.
> >
>
> > Does anyone know the correct original Lucas p/n for
> the starter for a
> '69 2000 TC? It appears there are two versions (pre
> engaged and not) My Rover
> manual lists (for the TC) M45G-26164A and the pre-engaged
> version LU M418G.
> I'm unsure which is fitted to my car. Do these
> numbers cross reference to any
> more popular brit cars?
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > --- On Sun,
> 2/7/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> > > Subject: Re:
> [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for
> 2000TC
> > > To:
> "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 1:39
> AM
> > > Eric Russell wrote:
> > > > Here's the
> hotlink:
> > > > http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/
> > >
> >
> > > > Eric
> > > >???
> > >
>
> > > Ted's TSi website is moving like molasses!
> Has anyone
> >
> > gotten past the basic framework of links? It's
> just loading
> > >
> and loading...
> > >
> > > Ted definitely has gear reduction
> starters to fit the 3500S
> > > V8, but I wasn't aware that he had them
> for the 2000 4-cyl,
> > > as well. He's mostly into Rover V8 stuff as a
>
> result of
> > > racing TR8's and (I think) SD1's. He
> deals with a lot
> of MGB
> > > V8 conversion people. One of the interesting
> things that
> Ted
> > > can do is rebuild the little front/rear brake
> proportioning
> > > valve on the SD1 to give more brake bias toward
> the
> rear.
> > > Rover apparently wanted to avoid rear wheel
> lockup, and
> the
> > > front brakes of the SD1 do almost all of the
> work. A
> bit
> > > more rear braking can benefit a high performance
> SD1 but
> you
> > > need to rebore that little valve body to get it.
> Ted
> seems
> > > to be a very decent sort of man, and very
> knowledgeable.
> > >
> > > Glen
> > >
> > >
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Sun Feb 7 21:27:19 2010
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:27:19 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rover 2000TC Starters.
Message-ID: <SNT105-W13083D70D95CD7F2D5C8508E510@phx.gbl>
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> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:01:10 +0000
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Gear reduction starter for
> 2000TC
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> A P4 105 starter works perfectly in my '69 2000 TC.
>
> > Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:49:05 -0800
>
> P4 work but theoretically shouldn't!
> They have 10 tooth pinions, P6 have 11 teeth.
> However I ran one in my TC for years and it was the most reliable.
>
**********************************
I have used a Land Rover 6 cylinder starter in my Rover 2000 automatic for many years. I did have to change over the pinions though, a 10 tooth pinion would not work.
On my Rover 2000TC the starter is also a M100 starter, from a Land Rover 6 or P4, not sure which, and they are probably one in the same, I have not counted the teeth on this starter. I bought that one off Ebay as a Rover 2000 starter motor. Both of these starter spin the motor over faster.
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Mon Feb 8 07:24:54 2010
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:24:54 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electronic Ignition
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hi Eric
I seem to remember included in the installation instructions for
Petronix was that the plug gap should be increased to 35. Do you recall if
that is correct or just my imagination!!!
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 8 11:59:53 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:59:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electronic Ignition
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Ben,
I don't recall a reference to increasing the plug gap. My memory is not like it used to be so I have to rely on written information. These are two things I found:
http://www.roverclub.ca/p6electronic.html
http://www.pertronix.com/support/manuals/pdf/ignitor12vneg.pdf
Regards to you, Linda and the furry friends
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Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 4:24:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electronic Ignition
hi Eric
I seem to remember included in the installation instructions for Petronix was that the plug gap should be increased to 35. Do you recall if that is correct or just my imagination!!!
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From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Feb 8 12:58:21 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:58:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electronic Ignition
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Ben,
The Pertronix instructions do not have reference to opening the spark gap. In reality there is no reason to think that they would. All the ignitor does is replace the points function as a switch. Now back in the days of Capacitive Discharge ignitions, which did increase the spark, it was recommended to increase the gap to .035". That is probably where you mind was going.
Slats
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electronic Ignition
hi Eric
?? ? ? ? I seem to remember included in the installation instructions for
Petronix was that the plug gap should be increased to 35. Do you recall if
that is correct or just my imagination!!!
?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Best Regards Ben (irishrover)
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From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Feb 8 14:22:37 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:22:37 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electronic Ignition
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Eric Russell wrote:
> Regards to you, Linda and the furry friends
>
> Eric
>
>
Please...no references to furry Canadians. I don't know where Patrick
got that furry bit from. He replied to me offline, and there's no
problem, but he really did get angry at my needling him. I was a bit
surprised by that. Touchy, touchy, you people. Of course, he lives back
east and is much closer to that grouchy Dennis than he is to you laid
back West Coasters. Tristan and Sara seem to be doing just great, and we
think the change has done wonders for Tristan. All new and exciting, and
the Vancouver Quakers are apparently a lively group.
GW
From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Feb 8 16:58:39 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:58:39 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electronic Ignition
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I apologized to everyone. Of course, that was not intended to go out on
the list. This has been a terrible week for me in the online arena. The
only thing that partially excuses me is the fact that I have been on
heavy-duty painkillers this week due to the worst back pain I've ever
experienced in my life. There must be a mother lode of stupidity just
under the surface, though.
Again, my apologies.
Glen
Glen Wilson wrote:
> Eric Russell wrote:
>> Regards to you, Linda and the furry friends
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>
> Please...no references to furry Canadians. I don't know where Patrick
> got that furry bit from. He replied to me offline, and there's no
> problem, but he really did get angry at my needling him. I was a bit
> surprised by that. Touchy, touchy, you people. Of course, he lives
> back east and is much closer to that grouchy Dennis than he is to you
> laid back West Coasters. Tristan and Sara seem to be doing just great,
> and we think the change has done wonders for Tristan. All new and
> exciting, and the Vancouver Quakers are apparently a lively group.
>
> GW
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 8 18:34:21 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:34:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Electronic Ignition
Message-ID: <908919.6549.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hmmm,........ I imagine that you knew that the world would read your message as it came through the Rovernet server.
Ben knows what I mean. He has two lovely dogs and two furry kitties. We took a particular shine to Yoda who supplied better entertainment than the TV.
Geez for a minute there, I thought you said Vancouver Canucks :-)
I have to say we know more about the Vancouver Canucks than the Vancouver Quakers, but since our experience with Quaker folk has been excellent so far, I'll bet they're a good team too ;-)
Eric
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Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 11:22:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Electronic Ignition
Eric Russell wrote:
> Regards to you, Linda and the furry friends
>
> Eric
>
>
Please...no references to furry Canadians. I don't know where Patrick got that furry bit from. He replied to me offline, and there's no problem, but he really did get angry at my needling him. I was a bit surprised by that. Touchy, touchy, you people. Of course, he lives back east and is much closer to that grouchy Dennis than he is to you laid back West Coasters. Tristan and Sara seem to be doing just great, and we think the change has done wonders for Tristan. All new and exciting, and the Vancouver Quakers are apparently a lively group.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 8 18:38:13 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:38:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Fw: Electronic Ignition
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Glen,
Of course I read your second message only AFTER I dealt with the first one.
I put it down to old age. In fact, I am considering an additional motto:
"Old age and cunning will triumph over youth and enthusiasm every time." :-)
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From wreynold at uniserve.com Mon Feb 8 19:16:28 2010
From: wreynold at uniserve.com (Walter Reynolds)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:16:28 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Selling my P6
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Hi all. Just to let you all know, I am selling my 1968 P6 2000 SC
Automatic. Colour is Arden Green. My wife and I are downsizing, and the sale
of the Rover is a downside of the downsizing. Anyone interested should
contact me at my email address, wreynold at uniserve.com.
Walter
Pitt Meadows
British Columbia, Canada
From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Tue Feb 9 06:16:06 2010
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:16:06 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Furry Friends & Glen
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Hi Glen
Just to let you know that Yoda, my furry Canadian Keeshond was
not offended. Hope you will soon be feeling better, bad backs are no fun!
Regards Ben (irishrover)
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From rovercar at comcast.net Tue Feb 9 12:39:24 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:39:24 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Furry Friends & Glen
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BEN RODGERS wrote:
> Hi Glen
> Just to let you know that Yoda, my furry Canadian Keeshond
> was not offended. Hope you will soon be feeling better, bad backs are
> no fun!
> Regards Ben (irishrover)
>
>
Ben,
Well, the problem is in my back, but the symptom is in my leg and butt.
The old sciatic nerve deal. I may lose weight, though, since I have
found that I can make it into the kitchen but not back to the living
room couch. I have to be really hungry to risk being stranded on the
floor of the dining room. Usually, the nerve pain is something that
disappears in a day or two, but this has hung on for over two weeks, now.
If you like furry, you should slip below the border and get a Maine Coon
cat. We had one and loved it. They don't understand that they are cats
and mostly behave like small dogs. Mine was the only cat I ever had that
would run from the other end of the house when I called him by name.
Rover p6, turmeric, dove grey.
Those are just Rover content words to satisfy the NSA and the list
administrator regarding Rover content in this message.
He can be a really nasty old furry SOB if you don't have list-worthy
content and follow proper netiquette.
You know, my son left home and married a Vancouver girl to be closer to
Eric and Linda and go to the annual RCCC dinner.
Glen
From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Tue Feb 9 13:52:41 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:52:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Furry Friends & Glen
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Glen,
You should count yourself fortunate that none of us are taking advantage of your medicated state to dupe you into selling one of your Rovers for pennies on the dollar! Yes, the gentle folk of the Rovernet would NEVER do such a thing.
Nathan
--- On Tue, 2/9/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Furry Friends & Glen
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 11:39 AM
> BEN RODGERS wrote:
> > Hi Glen
> >? ? ? ? ???Just to
> let you know that Yoda, my furry Canadian Keeshond was not
> offended. Hope you will soon be feeling better, bad backs
> are no fun!
> >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ???Regards? Ben (irishrover)
> >
> >
> Ben,
>
> Well, the problem is in my back, but the symptom is in my
> leg and butt. The old sciatic nerve deal. I may lose weight,
> though, since I have found that I can make it into the
> kitchen but not back to the living room couch. I have to be
> really hungry to risk being stranded on the floor of the
> dining room. Usually, the nerve pain is something that
> disappears in a day or two, but this has hung on for over
> two weeks, now.
>
> If you like furry, you should slip below the border and get
> a Maine Coon cat. We had one and loved it. They don't
> understand that they are cats and mostly behave like small
> dogs. Mine was the only cat I ever had that would run from
> the other end of the house when I called him by name.
>
> Rover p6, turmeric, dove grey.
>
> Those are just Rover content words to satisfy the NSA and
> the list administrator regarding Rover content in this
> message.
>
> He can be a really nasty old furry SOB if you don't have
> list-worthy content and follow proper netiquette.
>
> You know, my son left home and married a Vancouver girl to
> be closer to Eric and Linda and go to the annual RCCC
> dinner.
>
> Glen
>
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From peter_m at amnet.net.au Tue Feb 9 17:39:06 2010
From: peter_m at amnet.net.au (Peter Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:39:06 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Walter - Selling my P6
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Walter,
I have been thinking that your P6 would be a mighty fine car to purchase,
and to keep over there for when my wife and I visit the northern dominion-
we are in Australia. Last time we were in Canada the Russells seemed to
have a reasonable amount of room on their front lawn to park it - I'll check
with them and get back to you. Or maybe Linda Russell will let me know
directly!
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From james.moison at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 17:55:24 2010
From: james.moison at gmail.com (james.moison at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:55:24 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Furry Friends & Glen
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I have a P-6 in Boise Idaho I would gladly take pennies on the dollar for. 208 407 7692
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From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:52:41
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Furry Friends & Glen
Glen,
You should count yourself fortunate that none of us are taking advantage of your medicated state to dupe you into selling one of your Rovers for pennies on the dollar! Yes, the gentle folk of the Rovernet would NEVER do such a thing.
Nathan
--- On Tue, 2/9/10, Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Glen Wilson <rovercar at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Furry Friends & Glen
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 11:39 AM
> BEN RODGERS wrote:
> > Hi Glen
> >? ? ? ? ???Just to
> let you know that Yoda, my furry Canadian Keeshond was not
> offended. Hope you will soon be feeling better, bad backs
> are no fun!
> >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ???Regards? Ben (irishrover)
> >
> >
> Ben,
>
> Well, the problem is in my back, but the symptom is in my
> leg and butt. The old sciatic nerve deal. I may lose weight,
> though, since I have found that I can make it into the
> kitchen but not back to the living room couch. I have to be
> really hungry to risk being stranded on the floor of the
> dining room. Usually, the nerve pain is something that
> disappears in a day or two, but this has hung on for over
> two weeks, now.
>
> If you like furry, you should slip below the border and get
> a Maine Coon cat. We had one and loved it. They don't
> understand that they are cats and mostly behave like small
> dogs. Mine was the only cat I ever had that would run from
> the other end of the house when I called him by name.
>
> Rover p6, turmeric, dove grey.
>
> Those are just Rover content words to satisfy the NSA and
> the list administrator regarding Rover content in this
> message.
>
> He can be a really nasty old furry SOB if you don't have
> list-worthy content and follow proper netiquette.
>
> You know, my son left home and married a Vancouver girl to
> be closer to Eric and Linda and go to the annual RCCC
> dinner.
>
> Glen
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Feb 9 19:41:21 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:41:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] S & G Walker
Message-ID: <880295.41628.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Richard, the Webmaster of the Classic Rover Forum in the UK reported a sad loss today when he said the following. Not all members of the Rovernet are on the Forum so I am helping to get the word out in Stephen`s memory.
Eric
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Steve Walker
by webmaster on Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:48 pm
I am sorry to have to report another sad loss in the P6 world.
I have today been informed by Roland Shaw, Steve's stepson, that Steve passed away during the early hours of Monday.
In Roland's message he said..
I
>feel that as the P6 world was such a big part of his & as a result
>our lives that his passing should not go without mention, although I do
>not know of the best & most suitable way to do this. We are quite
>happy for it to be mentioned on the forum.
Unfortunately,
I never had the pleasure of meeting Steve, but I'm sure many members
here have, and would like to express their sympathy to Roland and the
rest of Steve's family.
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From vern at inkspotco.com Tue Feb 9 19:47:20 2010
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:47:20 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] S & G Walker
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Sad news indeed. My sympathy and best wishes to Roland and the family.
Yours
Vern
On 2010-02-09, at 4:41 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Richard, the Webmaster of the Classic Rover Forum in the UK reported a sad loss today when he said the following. Not all members of the Rovernet are on the Forum so I am helping to get the word out in Stephen`s memory.
>
> Eric
>
> **********************************************************************************************************************************
>
> Steve Walker
> by webmaster on Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:48 pm
> I am sorry to have to report another sad loss in the P6 world.
>
> I have today been informed by Roland Shaw, Steve's stepson, that Steve passed away during the early hours of Monday.
>
> In Roland's message he said..
>
>
> I
>> feel that as the P6 world was such a big part of his & as a result
>> our lives that his passing should not go without mention, although I do
>> not know of the best & most suitable way to do this. We are quite
>> happy for it to be mentioned on the forum.
>
> Unfortunately,
> I never had the pleasure of meeting Steve, but I'm sure many members
> here have, and would like to express their sympathy to Roland and the
> rest of Steve's family.
> Richard Taylor
>
> Forum Owner
> ***************************************************************************************
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
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From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Feb 10 03:11:37 2010
From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (gray mark)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:11:37 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] S & G Walker
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our sincere condolences
Mark Gray, Editor RP6C
Angie Gray, Chairman RP6C
On 10 February 2010 00:41, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Richard, the Webmaster of the Classic Rover Forum in the UK reported a sad
> loss today when he said the following. Not all members of the Rovernet are
> on the Forum so I am helping to get the word out in Stephen`s memory.
>
> Eric
>
>
> **********************************************************************************************************************************
>
> Steve Walker
> by webmaster on Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:48 pm
> I am sorry to have to report another sad loss in the P6 world.
>
> I have today been informed by Roland Shaw, Steve's stepson, that Steve
> passed away during the early hours of Monday.
>
> In Roland's message he said..
>
>
> I
> >feel that as the P6 world was such a big part of his & as a result
> >our lives that his passing should not go without mention, although I do
> >not know of the best & most suitable way to do this. We are quite
> >happy for it to be mentioned on the forum.
>
> Unfortunately,
> I never had the pleasure of meeting Steve, but I'm sure many members
> here have, and would like to express their sympathy to Roland and the
> rest of Steve's family.
> Richard Taylor
>
> Forum Owner
>
> ***************************************************************************************
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
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From den at aachenkennels.com Wed Feb 10 08:34:48 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:34:48 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: [RoverAustralia] 1939 P2 electrical
problem
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Anyone have a suggestion.?
Den Gallacher
From: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
[mailto:RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Kimberley and
Martin Shaw
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 7:18 PM
To: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [RoverAustralia] 1939 P2 electrical problem
Hello all
the 1939 14hp will hopefully go over the pits next week for
licensing....if i can fix a small problem.
When the car is running, there is a visible short behind the lower coil
of the regulator (RB95). When I turn off the ignition, the car continues
to run. If I disconnect the battery, the car continues to run. The
regulator seems to be getting stuck "on", and being charged by the
generator. I had to pull the coil lead off to stop the engine.
Could it be 1) a faulty regulator ??
2) a badly adjusted regulator, or the wrong polarity
as I have changed the car to negative earth
3) a faulty ignition switch ?
4) a faulty generator ??
5) any other ideas ???
I look forward to your comments
Thanks
martin
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From gjkzscruggs at verizon.net Wed Feb 10 08:47:35 2010
From: gjkzscruggs at verizon.net (Scruggs Family)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:47:35 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
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Does anyone have any information on a red 2000 having being fitted with a
Ford V8 in, I think, the Los Angeles area? I've looked through the archives
and not found anything on the topic. I recall seeing what seemed to be a
newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have misplaced that as well.
Anyone know about this swap or anything similar? Pros or cons?
Regards,
Gross Scruggs
Annapolis MD, USA
From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Wed Feb 10 09:16:06 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:16:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
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The website ateupwithmotor.com has an article on the P6 and there are pictures of a red 2000 TC fitted with wire wheels and a Ford V-8. I'm assuming that's the car you're thinking of. Supposedly the Ford is a bit more compact than the Rover V-8. That's all I know!
Nathan
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> From: Scruggs Family <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 7:47 AM
> Does anyone have any information on a
> red 2000 having being fitted with a
> Ford V8 in, I think, the Los Angeles area?? I've
> looked through the archives
> and not found anything on the topic.? I recall seeing
> what seemed to be a
> newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have
> misplaced that as well.
>
>
> Anyone know about this swap or anything similar?? Pros
> or cons?
>
> Regards,
> Gross Scruggs
> Annapolis MD, USA
>
>
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Wed Feb 10 09:34:23 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:34:23 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
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Direct link to website:
http://ateupwithmotor.com/model-histories/family-cars/162-red-rover-p6.html
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Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
The website ateupwithmotor.com has an article on the P6 and there are pictures
of a red 2000 TC fitted with wire wheels and a Ford V-8. I'm assuming that's the
car you're thinking of. Supposedly the Ford is a bit more compact than the Rover
V-8. That's all I know!
Nathan
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> From: Scruggs Family <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 7:47 AM
> Does anyone have any information on a
> red 2000 having being fitted with a
> Ford V8 in, I think, the Los Angeles area? I've
> looked through the archives
> and not found anything on the topic. I recall seeing
> what seemed to be a
> newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have
> misplaced that as well.
>
>
> Anyone know about this swap or anything similar? Pros
> or cons?
>
> Regards,
> Gross Scruggs
> Annapolis MD, USA
>
>
>
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From pjemail at aol.com Wed Feb 10 09:46:46 2010
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:46:46 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
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I think that the car you are talking about is the one owned by Thomas Trafton in LA. I visited him on my trip to the US last summer and had a ride in it. He has owned it for several decades and put a V8 into it perhaps up to 10 years ago. It certainly can move!
Regards,
Pierre Janusz
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Sent: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:16
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
The website ateupwithmotor.com has an article on the P6 and there are pictures
f a red 2000 TC fitted with wire wheels and a Ford V-8. I'm assuming that's the
ar you're thinking of. Supposedly the Ford is a bit more compact than the Rover
-8. That's all I know!
Nathan
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 7:47 AM
Does anyone have any information on a
red 2000 having being fitted with a
Ford V8 in, I think, the Los Angeles area? I've
looked through the archives
and not found anything on the topic. I recall seeing
what seemed to be a
newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have
misplaced that as well.
Anyone know about this swap or anything similar? Pros
or cons?
Regards,
Gross Scruggs
Annapolis MD, USA
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From gjkzscruggs at verizon.net Wed Feb 10 10:32:23 2010
From: gjkzscruggs at verizon.net (Scruggs Family)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:32:23 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
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Thank you Nathan and Rudiger! That is the article I was remembering. Sure
wish there were contact information for the owner. Anyone else out there
done anything like this swap?
I looked it up yesterday... you can see this has been on my mind... and the
302 Ford is two inches narrower, 100lbs heavier and a lot more powerful than
the 3.5 liter Rover engine. Hmmm... a plan begins to form.
Regards,
Gross
From kkinard at att.net Wed Feb 10 11:26:10 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:26:10 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
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Hi Gross,
Yes, I have pictures somewhere. I corresponded with the owner some time
back. When I get a chance, I will dig up what I have. It is a well
done conversion. The owner mentioned only one problem with doing the
installation, something related to the oil pump.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Scruggs Family wrote:
> Does anyone have any information on a red 2000 having being fitted with a
> Ford V8 in, I think, the Los Angeles area? I've looked through the archives
> and not found anything on the topic. I recall seeing what seemed to be a
> newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have misplaced that as well.
>
>
> Anyone know about this swap or anything similar? Pros or cons?
>
> Regards,
> Gross Scruggs
> Annapolis MD, USA
>
>
From galmpton at shaw.ca Wed Feb 10 11:40:45 2010
From: galmpton at shaw.ca (galmpton)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:40:45 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: [RoverAustralia] 1939 P2
electricalproblem
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Hello all,
I am new to this forum and have had limited experience with the car in question, however
the last time I had this happen on a car, (although it was not a 1939 14 hp) the solenoid needed changing in that the low voltage wire to the points inside which is switched had mated to the full voltage starting wire which took unswitched power from the generator. Hence when the ignition was shut off, the charging voltage continued to run the car.
Good Luck
Al Gunnarson
Victoria BC
Canada
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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:34 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: [RoverAustralia] 1939 P2 electricalproblem
Anyone have a suggestion.?
Den Gallacher
From: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Kimberley and Martin Shaw
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 7:18 PM
To: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [RoverAustralia] 1939 P2 electrical problem
Hello all
the 1939 14hp will hopefully go over the pits next week for licensing....if i can fix a small problem.
When the car is running, there is a visible short behind the lower coil of the regulator (RB95). When I turn off the ignition, the car continues to run. If I disconnect the battery, the car continues to run. The regulator seems to be getting stuck "on", and being charged by the generator. I had to pull the coil lead off to stop the engine.
Could it be 1) a faulty regulator ??
2) a badly adjusted regulator, or the wrong polarity as I have changed the car to negative earth
3) a faulty ignition switch ?
4) a faulty generator ??
5) any other ideas ???
I look forward to your comments
Thanks
martin
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Wed Feb 10 11:41:38 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:41:38 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Red Rover
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The Red Rover in the pics i believe is Thomas Trafton's.........I keep bugging him to sell it to me but have yet got him to part with it.......Gorgeous car
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From jhdolan at sover.net Wed Feb 10 13:21:38 2010
From: jhdolan at sover.net (j D)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:21:38 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1939 P2 electrical problem
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Glad you wrote that- I've had the same problem but once, and that was
on an old tractor. I still don't know if I understand what was going
on, but the solenoid was changed out and every thing was dandy. Not
familiar with the wiring on the 1939 Rover, but they might be around
the same sophistication. I'd give that a look.
jim
'60 P5 MkI, etc...
Bethel, VT
> Hello all,
> I am new to this forum and have had limited experience with the car in
> question, however
> the last time I had this happen on a car, (although it was not a 1939
> 14 hp) the solenoid needed changing in that the low voltage wire to
> the points inside which is switched had mated to the full voltage
> starting wire which took unswitched power from the generator. Hence
> when the ignition was shut off, the charging voltage continued to run
> the car.
>
> Good Luck
> Al Gunnarson
> Victoria BC
> Canada
From dmaxwell at as.net Wed Feb 10 14:00:19 2010
From: dmaxwell at as.net (dmaxwell at as.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:00:19 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
Message-ID: <4b730243.273.7f01.1867809427@antelecom.net>
I'm in the process of fitting a Chevy 4.3L V6 with a
manual 5 speed in my '65 P5 Mk IIc. It fits in fine though
I have to move the power brake servo to a different
location. Hope to have it running by the end of this year
but that depends on time and $$$$!
David Maxwell
Tehachapi, California
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From: Kent Kinard
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:26:10 -0600
>Hi Gross,
>Yes, I have pictures somewhere. I corresponded with the
>owner some time back. When I get a chance, I will dig up
>what I have. It is a well done conversion. The owner
>mentioned only one problem with doing the installation,
>something related to the oil pump.
>
>Roverly,
>Kent K.
>
>Scruggs Family wrote:
>> Does anyone have any information on a red 2000 having
>> being fitted with a Ford V8 in, I think, the Los
Angeles
>> area? I've looked through the archives and not found
>> anything on the topic. I recall seeing what seemed to
be
>a newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have
>>misplaced that as well.
>>
>> Anyone know about this swap or anything similar? Pros
or
>>cons?
>> Regards,
>> Gross Scruggs
>> Annapolis MD, USA
>>
>>
>
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Wed Feb 10 15:24:45 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:24:45 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: [RoverAustralia] 1939 P2
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I would look at the ignition switch.
I have converted P4s to neg earth and the regulator (RB340 in one case) did not need adjusting.
The coil drive is through ignition switch - kill that and spark stops if the switch works.
PVS
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Anyone have a suggestion.?
Den Gallacher
From: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Kimberley and Martin Shaw
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 7:18 PM
To: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [RoverAustralia] 1939 P2 electrical problem
Hello all
the 1939 14hp will hopefully go over the pits next week for licensing....if i can fix a small problem.
When the car is running, there is a visible short behind the lower coil of the regulator (RB95). When I turn off the ignition, the car continues to run. If I disconnect the battery, the car continues to run. The regulator seems to be getting stuck "on", and being charged by the generator. I had to pull the coil lead off to stop the engine.
Could it be 1) a faulty regulator ??
2) a badly adjusted regulator, or the wrong polarity as I have changed the car to negative earth
3) a faulty ignition switch ?
4) a faulty generator ??
5) any other ideas ???
I look forward to your comments
Thanks
martin
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From vsimkins at btconnect.com Wed Feb 10 17:10:36 2010
From: vsimkins at btconnect.com (Ginny Simkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:10:36 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1939 P2 electrical problem (j D)
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Hi
Running on could be caused by the points sticking in the regulator causing
the field windings to be overfed; you would then get the dynamo warning
light illuminated dimly, and this would be just enough to keep the engine
running but you would probably find the engine stalls if you put any load on
it. You could test this theory by disconnecting the charge warning light
connector from the regulator.
If that proves to be the case, ie it's overcharging, that can be caused by
many things but commonly due to sticky points due to general wear and tear.
But if problem has just arisen since changing from positive to negative this
could explain points sticking if, when you changed it, you didn't change the
magnetic field polarity in the dynamo.
Have more ideas but need to take it a step at a time.
Jay
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> Glad you wrote that- I've had the same problem but once, and that was
> on an old tractor. I still don't know if I understand what was going
> on, but the solenoid was changed out and every thing was dandy. Not
> familiar with the wiring on the 1939 Rover, but they might be around
> the same sophistication. I'd give that a look.
>
> jim
> '60 P5 MkI, etc...
> Bethel, VT
>
>
>> Hello all,
>> I am new to this forum and have had limited experience with the car in
>> question, however
>> the last time I had this happen on a car, (although it was not a 1939
>> 14 hp) the solenoid needed changing in that the low voltage wire to
>> the points inside which is switched had mated to the full voltage
>> starting wire which took unswitched power from the generator. Hence
>> when the ignition was shut off, the charging voltage continued to run
>> the car.
>>
>> Good Luck
>> Al Gunnarson
>> Victoria BC
>> Canada
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:00:19 -0800
> From: dmaxwell at as.net
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> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
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> I'm in the process of fitting a Chevy 4.3L V6 with a
> manual 5 speed in my '65 P5 Mk IIc. It fits in fine though
> I have to move the power brake servo to a different
> location. Hope to have it running by the end of this year
> but that depends on time and $$$$!
> David Maxwell
> Tehachapi, California
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:26:10 -0600
>
>
>
>>Hi Gross,
>>Yes, I have pictures somewhere. I corresponded with the
>>owner some time back. When I get a chance, I will dig up
>>what I have. It is a well done conversion. The owner
>>mentioned only one problem with doing the installation,
>>something related to the oil pump.
>>
>>Roverly,
>>Kent K.
>>
>>Scruggs Family wrote:
>>> Does anyone have any information on a red 2000 having
>>> being fitted with a Ford V8 in, I think, the Los
> Angeles
>>> area? I've looked through the archives and not found
>>> anything on the topic. I recall seeing what seemed to
> be
>>a newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have
>>>misplaced that as well.
>>>
>>> Anyone know about this swap or anything similar? Pros
> or
>>>cons?
>>> Regards,
>>> Gross Scruggs
>>> Annapolis MD, USA
>>>
>>>
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> I would look at the ignition switch.
> I have converted P4s to neg earth and the regulator (RB340 in one case)
> did not need adjusting.
> The coil drive is through ignition switch - kill that and spark stops if
> the switch works.
>
> PVS
>
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> electricalproblem
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>
> Anyone have a suggestion.?
>
> Den Gallacher
>
>
>
> From: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
> [mailto:RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Kimberley and
> Martin Shaw
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 7:18 PM
> To: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
> Subject: [RoverAustralia] 1939 P2 electrical problem
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello all
>
> the 1939 14hp will hopefully go over the pits next week for
> licensing....if i can fix a small problem.
>
>
>
> When the car is running, there is a visible short behind the lower coil
> of the regulator (RB95). When I turn off the ignition, the car continues
> to run. If I disconnect the battery, the car continues to run. The
> regulator seems to be getting stuck "on", and being charged by the
> generator. I had to pull the coil lead off to stop the engine.
>
> Could it be 1) a faulty regulator ??
>
> 2) a badly adjusted regulator, or the wrong polarity
> as I have changed the car to negative earth
>
> 3) a faulty ignition switch ?
>
> 4) a faulty generator ??
>
> 5) any other ideas ???
>
> I look forward to your comments
>
> Thanks
>
> martin
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From den at aachenkennels.com Wed Feb 10 18:19:28 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:19:28 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000 or Lexus.
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If I where to go down the none rover V8 road for a Rover the engine I
would consider would be the Lexus quad cam v8. Certainly would be the
first one I would research for a P6. I know it will fit in the engine
bay of P2 so should fit into your project. 5 speed Toyota gear box and
P6 rear end. Cheap as chips down here in Oz and some mighty power
advantage without a lot of extra cost. I would also do a strait LPG
conversion.
Den Gallacher
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On Behalf Of Scruggs Family
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 11:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
Thank you Nathan and Rudiger! That is the article I was remembering.
Sure
wish there were contact information for the owner. Anyone else out
there
done anything like this swap?
I looked it up yesterday... you can see this has been on my mind... and
the
302 Ford is two inches narrower, 100lbs heavier and a lot more powerful
than
the 3.5 liter Rover engine. Hmmm... a plan begins to form.
Regards,
Gross
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From dirk at vy-tek.com Wed Feb 10 18:33:21 2010
From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:33:21 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 1939 P2 electrical problem
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Hello Martin,
I would first look at the ignition switch as it has tumbler with a number of
contacts. It is possible you have broken the phenolic insulator and you are
not actually turning off the car. Next I would look at the voltage
regulator.
Questions:
Why did you change the car to a negative ground? I prefer a positive ground
as you don't get the corrosion you get from a negative ground and I can't
see any other benefit unless you are fitting a modern radio
When you did this did you re-phase the generator?
Have you tried a different voltage regulator?
Good Luck and report back on what you find
Dirk
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From: j D <jhdolan at sover.net>
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Glad you wrote that- I've had the same problem but once, and that was on an
old tractor. I still don't know if I understand what was going on, but the
solenoid was changed out and every thing was dandy. Not familiar with the
wiring on the 1939 Rover, but they might be around the same sophistication.
I'd give that a look.
jim
'60 P5 MkI, etc...
Bethel, VT
> Hello all,
> I am new to this forum and have had limited experience with the car in
> question, however
> the last time I had this happen on a car, (although it was not a 1939
> 14 hp) the solenoid needed changing in that the low voltage wire to
> the points inside which is switched had mated to the full voltage
> starting wire which took unswitched power from the generator. Hence
> when the ignition was shut off, the charging voltage continued to run
> the car.
>
> Good Luck
> Al Gunnarson
> Victoria BC
> Canada
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I'm in the process of fitting a Chevy 4.3L V6 with a
manual 5 speed in my '65 P5 Mk IIc. It fits in fine though
I have to move the power brake servo to a different
location. Hope to have it running by the end of this year
but that depends on time and $$$$!
David Maxwell
Tehachapi, California
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From: Kent Kinard
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:26:10 -0600
>Hi Gross,
>Yes, I have pictures somewhere. I corresponded with the
>owner some time back. When I get a chance, I will dig up
>what I have. It is a well done conversion. The owner
>mentioned only one problem with doing the installation,
>something related to the oil pump.
>
>Roverly,
>Kent K.
>
>Scruggs Family wrote:
>> Does anyone have any information on a red 2000 having
>> being fitted with a Ford V8 in, I think, the Los
Angeles
>> area? I've looked through the archives and not found
>> anything on the topic. I recall seeing what seemed to
be
>a newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have
>>misplaced that as well.
>>
>> Anyone know about this swap or anything similar? Pros
or
>>cons?
>> Regards,
>> Gross Scruggs
>> Annapolis MD, USA
>>
>>
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I would look at the ignition switch.
I have converted P4s to neg earth and the regulator (RB340 in one case) did
not need adjusting.
The coil drive is through ignition switch - kill that and spark stops if the
switch works.
PVS
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electricalproblem
Anyone have a suggestion.?
Den Gallacher
From: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
[mailto:RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Kimberley and Martin
Shaw
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 7:18 PM
To: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [RoverAustralia] 1939 P2 electrical problem
Hello all
the 1939 14hp will hopefully go over the pits next week for
licensing....if i can fix a small problem.
When the car is running, there is a visible short behind the lower coil of
the regulator (RB95). When I turn off the ignition, the car continues to
run. If I disconnect the battery, the car continues to run. The regulator
seems to be getting stuck "on", and being charged by the generator. I had to
pull the coil lead off to stop the engine.
Could it be 1) a faulty regulator ??
2) a badly adjusted regulator, or the wrong polarity
as I have changed the car to negative earth
3) a faulty ignition switch ?
4) a faulty generator ??
5) any other ideas ???
I look forward to your comments
Thanks
martin
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Feb 10 20:06:34 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:06:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
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Hi,
I have had a discussion with Tom Trafton and if anyone is really keen on knowing more about his Rover, email me, and I will forward your message to him (in the interests of Internet security).
Eric
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Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 5:47:35 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
Does anyone have any information on a red 2000 having being fitted with a
Ford V8 in, I think, the Los Angeles area? I've looked through the archives
and not found anything on the topic. I recall seeing what seemed to be a
newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have misplaced that as well.
Anyone know about this swap or anything similar? Pros or cons?
Regards,
Gross Scruggs
Annapolis MD, USA
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Thu Feb 11 04:21:29 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:21:29 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] For sale, sadly
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Due to some extreme circumstances I have to sell:
P6B, was Royce Coles, he retrimmed it, has SD1 motor, stainless exhaust. Say
$2k.
2000TC parts car, good motor, box internals good but needs seals, rear
brakes good, 3500 springs, free.
PVS
From vmitps at netspace.net.au Thu Feb 11 04:21:59 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:21:59 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Oops I'm in Tasmania Australia
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu Feb 11 09:20:24 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:20:24 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Ford V8 in a 2000
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Please any photo?
best regards, gianluca.
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I'm in the process of fitting a Chevy 4.3L V6 with a manual 5 speed in my '65 P5 Mk IIc. It fits in fine though I have to move the power brake servo to a different location. Hope to have it running by the end of this year but that depends on time and $$$$!
David Maxwell
Tehachapi, California
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To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:26:10 -0600
>Hi Gross,
>Yes, I have pictures somewhere. I corresponded with the
>owner some time back. When I get a chance, I will dig up
>what I have. It is a well done conversion. The owner
>mentioned only one problem with doing the installation,
>something related to the oil pump.
>
>Roverly,
>Kent K.
>
>Scruggs Family wrote:
>> Does anyone have any information on a red 2000 having
>> being fitted with a Ford V8 in, I think, the Los Angeles
>> area? I've looked through the archives and not found
>> anything on the topic. I recall seeing what seemed to be
>a newspaper article and a couple of pictures but have
>>misplaced that as well.
>>
>> Anyone know about this swap or anything similar? Pros or
>>cons?
>> Regards,
>> Gross Scruggs
>> Annapolis MD, USA
>>
>>
>
>
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From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:56:09 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Bmw 1602 - 2002 rear bumper
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Dear friends,
excuse me, it is not an usual subject.
A mate of Bmw youngtimer Italia is looking for a spare part which
someone of us could have or find.
It is the central chrome part of a 1602 - 2002 Bmw rear bumper.
Any idea?
Please be so kind to let me know.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards, hear you soon, Gianluca.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:03:05 +1100
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Hello all from Oz.
I drive a 71 TC2000 but the engine needs reconditioning. I plan to swop the engine from a earlier model parts car, while the work is completed, perhaps a rebore to 2200. Please advise on the basic checks I should complete with the parts car engine before I do the swop. This car runs very well with good compression, clutch, geerbox etc. I plan to tune it carefully while still in the parts car, change engine oil full service etc. On the engine stand I plan to remove the water pump, side covers, thermostate and clean out the water jacket. Do the valve clearences, change it to an alternator. I don't want to drop the sump and check the bearings because I will end up rebuilding this engine. What else should I do ?? All advice greatly appreciated
Cheers Roger
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Feb 13 00:35:50 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:35:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
Message-ID: <647999.51159.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Linda and I just watched the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympic Games here in Vancouver 2010.
It made us prouder Canadians.
We hope that if you didn't get to watch the whole thing you might see some news clips. We thought it was very representative.
Go Canada Go,....... eh?
....and now... back to news at 11:00..... :-)
Eric and Linda Russell
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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From vmitps at netspace.net.au Sat Feb 13 00:52:08 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (vmitps at netspace.net.au)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:52:08 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Engine swop checks
In-Reply-To: <009001caabc2$3027a4b0$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf>
References: <009001caabc2$3027a4b0$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf>
Message-ID: <1266040328.4b763e083a207@webmail.netspace.net.au>
Check the starter motor shaft and gear.
I'd pull the head and do a valve grind. Watch out for the top chain tensioner.
Put the oil in the engine and box After installing them in the car.
In my experience the bigends themselves don't wear much so the bearings are easy
to change (no grind necessary).
PVS
Quoting roger matheson <roger.matheson at bigpond.com>:
> Hello all from Oz.
>
> I drive a 71 TC2000 but the engine needs reconditioning. I plan to swop the
> engine from a earlier model parts car, while the work is completed, perhaps a
> rebore to 2200. Please advise on the basic checks I should complete with the
> parts car engine before I do the swop. This car runs very well with good
> compression, clutch, geerbox etc. I plan to tune it carefully while still in
> the parts car, change engine oil full service etc. On the engine stand I
> plan to remove the water pump, side covers, thermostate and clean out the
> water jacket. Do the valve clearences, change it to an alternator. I don't
> want to drop the sump and check the bearings because I will end up rebuilding
> this engine. What else should I do ?? All advice greatly appreciated
>
> Cheers Roger
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From agale at iinet.net.au Sat Feb 13 02:34:30 2010
From: agale at iinet.net.au (Alan Gale)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:34:30 +0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
In-Reply-To: <647999.51159.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <647999.51159.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FB13E46AEA804BF18D206BEF44676449@wheatley>
But what have you got against Georgians?
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From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Sat Feb 13 08:55:18 2010
From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:55:18 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
In-Reply-To: <FB13E46AEA804BF18D206BEF44676449@wheatley>
References: <647999.51159.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
<FB13E46AEA804BF18D206BEF44676449@wheatley>
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I was impressed by the quick and heart felt response regarding the death of the "Georgian"
...it showed class !! and prioriety.
From: agale at iinet.net.au
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:34:30 +0800
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
But what have you got against Georgians?
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From allangrp at gis.net Sat Feb 13 11:10:27 2010
From: allangrp at gis.net (Joe Allan )
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:10:27 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
In-Reply-To: <647999.51159.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Canada should be proud indeed - Joe Allan
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Eric Russell
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:36 AM
To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
Linda and I just watched the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympic Games
here in Vancouver 2010.
It made us prouder Canadians.
We hope that if you didn't get to watch the whole thing you might see some
news clips. We thought it was very representative.
Go Canada Go,....... eh?
....and now... back to news at 11:00..... :-)
Eric and Linda Russell
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Feb 13 11:45:52 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:45:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
In-Reply-To: <COL114-W5E5E85C62550F45751584DE4C0@phx.gbl>
References: <647999.51159.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
<FB13E46AEA804BF18D206BEF44676449@wheatley>
<COL114-W5E5E85C62550F45751584DE4C0@phx.gbl>
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That was a stunning accident. I agree that influential people who spoke broke from their script and offered condolences and both the newly raised Canada and Olympic flags were returned to half-mast in respect. That was very respectful.
In the news this morning, the track organizers said that although they were going to insert protections at the location of the crash, the investigators found:
"In a joint statement they said Kumaritashvili was late coming out of the
next-to-last turn and failed to compensate. ?This resulted in a late entrance
into curve 16 and although the athlete worked to correct the problem, he
eventually lost control of the sled, resulting in the tragic accident.?
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
________________________________
From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 5:55:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
I was impressed by the quick and heart felt response regarding the death of the "Georgian"
...it showed class !! and prioriety.
________________________________
From: agale at iinet.net.au
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:34:30 +0800
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
But what have you got against Georgians?
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From rovercar at comcast.net Sat Feb 13 15:16:12 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:16:12 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
In-Reply-To: <944645.86610.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <647999.51159.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
<FB13E46AEA804BF18D206BEF44676449@wheatley> <COL114-W5E5E85C62550F45751584DE4C0@phx.gbl>
<944645.86610.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I was REALLY impressed with the Vancouver opening ceremony. It was
simply amazing, beautiful, moving and COOL!
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sat Feb 13 16:54:41 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:54:41 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT - WOW!
In-Reply-To: <4B77088C.9060300@comcast.net>
References: <647999.51159.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
<FB13E46AEA804BF18D206BEF44676449@wheatley> <COL114-W5E5E85C62550F45751584DE4C0@phx.gbl>
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:16:12 -0500, you wrote:
>simply amazing, beautiful, moving and COOL!
But not as cold as you were hoping for!! :-)
Bring on the water skiing!!
Cheers,
Peter H
From den at aachenkennels.com Sun Feb 14 08:18:06 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:18:06 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: David Walter's black P6B
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081E3D@Server.adoptsec.local>
From: Dennis Gallacher
Sent: Sunday, 14 February 2010 9:12 PM
To: 'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'
Subject: FW: David Walter's black P6B
Hi James,
Just got off the phone to our club treasurer. Have a read of the information he sent to me.
[Regards. Den Gallacher]
From: Alex Richards [mailto:alexrichards at westnet.com.au]
Sent: Sunday, 14 February 2010 8:44 PM
To: Dennis Gallacher
Subject: David Walter's black P6B
Hi Den,
I don't have much by way of info on the car as David was getting ready to migrate to the US just as I joined the club and the last we saw of it was at the Centenary Rove 2004 here in Perth. At the time, I had my hands full with the P4 so I did notice the car being trailered in but lost track of it all shortly afterwards.
However, you can get a lot more info from the following people including David, registrar Egginton and of course, Paul Fenton who did the work. Their e mails are as follows.
1) David Walter: david at davidwalter.net
2) Andrew Egginton: aegginton at westnet.com.au or drew at pitstop.net.au
3) Paul Fenton: paulandhelene at westnet.com.au or 9293 2559
The pictures attached are the same as before - no further information to add apart from the fact that Paul Fenton did just about all the work on it at David's request.
Hope this helps,
Alex.
There is a Rover East, and Rover West directory. Steve Manwell compiles the Rover east directory. John Burkhard maitains the Rovers West directory. Kent Kinard has John's email address ( kkinard at att.net <mailto:rovernet%40rovernet.ca?Subject=%5BRovernet%20-%20INTERNATIONAL%5D%20Introduction&In-Reply-To=662690.72126.qm%40web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ). Rudiger Wicke, might have an idea RoverP6 at gmx.de <mailto:RoverP6 at gmx.de> Have you seen his website, http://www.ruediger-wicke.de The other guy who might know would be Dirk Burrows, dirk at vy-tek.com.
If you do manage to get hold of him, I would be interested to know how he got on importing a car from Australia. My father had a large car collection, and some would be worth bringing over one day, if I could afford the shipping.
Have you tried putting a posting on Rovernet?
Regards,
James.
________________________________
Subject: RE: RoveAmerica 2010 Registration Confirmation
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:18:22 +0900
From: den at aachenkennels.com
To: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com
Had a look at the web site, sorry James but not Andre?s.
I believe the car I?m chasing is an Australian car restored here in Perth. I recall seeing a photo of it at Pebble Beach.
From: James Radcliffe [mailto:j_radcliffe at hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 13 February 2010 10:21 AM
To: Dennis Gallacher
Subject: FW: RoveAmerica 2010 Registration Confirmation
I have just located an email address for Andre. It is Andre1396 at sbcglobal.net
________________________________
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com
To: den at aachenkennels.com
Subject: RE: RoveAmerica 2010 Registration Confirmation
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:46:27 -0500
I think you are talking abouts Andre Shay's 3500 S. His car is kind of 2 tone black. http://www.roveramerica.com/roveramerica_Rovers.html
Click on Andre Shay. He is a machinist from Connecticut, and knows the 3500's very well. He did a carb conversion on his, to a Holley carb, and it runs very well.
I don't think Andre uses the internet that much. He does not seem to be on Rovernet. I might have some contact details in a Rover directory, which I may still have on the hotmail server, or on my computer. I can not find it right now, but I bet I have it here somewhere.
James.
________________________________
Subject: RE: RoveAmerica 2010 Registration Confirmation
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:40:55 +0900
From: den at aachenkennels.com
To: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com
Yes will be there.
Was hoping to have the special finished to take over for its first show however trying to find parts in OZ is hard so will have to wait till the next one.
Having a problem sourcing ether old or new spares prompted me to start the Rover Australia group email. Soon as I get a bit more spare time (???) I want to set up a parts register or list of all those people in Australia who have spares for P1 or P2 along with a list of who or where to get parts made or rebuilt.
Who is the chap over there who has the black P6. The reason I ask is we have a new club member who is rebuilding a P63500s. I was telling him about the black car and wondered if I could get hold of any photos to show him.
Den.
From: James Radcliffe [mailto:j_radcliffe at hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 12 February 2010 8:27 PM
To: Dennis Gallacher
Subject: RE: RoveAmerica 2010 Registration Confirmation
No, I have a Red 2000 TC, with rostyle wheels (ECA 7114). In Adelaide I have a White 2000 automatic.
Are you attending NatRove in Adelaide over Easter?
James.
________________________________
Subject: RE: RoveAmerica 2010 Registration Confirmation
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:23:47 +0900
From: den at aachenkennels.com
To: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com
James are you the chap with the black P6 with wire wheels?.
From: James Radcliffe [mailto:j_radcliffe at hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 10:07 AM
To: Dennis Gallacher
Subject: FW: RoveAmerica 2010 Registration Confirmation
Hi Dennis,
I am coming over to Adelaide for Rove 2010 over Easter. I am also involved with RoverAmerica 2010 which is held in Fitchburg, Massachussettes. Please find attached some information about RoverAmerica 2010. Can these be added as files on the RoverAustralia yahoo message board? We are having some visitors come over from the UK. I am currently the sole Australian attending. I reside most of the year US, but I do have a Rover in Australia, as well as one in the US. I would like to get the word out to any Australian Rover enthusiasts about RoverAmerica, who might be in the US from the 18th -20th June, so if they are in the area, then they could attend also.
Thanks,
James Radcliffe.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Feb 14 13:28:48 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:28:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Message-ID: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi,
My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months and I thought I would use today as an example and incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email from people whose address is not on the approved list SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a non-member to post to the list. I used to look at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so before I follow the route to the server, check through the messages, and then discard and ban those addresses.
Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer, your partner's computer, your child's computer - Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply so you click "Reply" say your piece and click "Send". The server knows that email is not coming from a registered address (it's coming from "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet messages from your registered address, it might not get through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click buttons to let it pass through).
2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in Plain Text. However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text format. If you think your message didn't get through, perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to deal with each person's message by me, individually - it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either stops the message entirely or lets the text go through without the attachments.
4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party, with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to find out the nature of the error message from the server. Please don't forward messages with attachments.
I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with each other, announce upcoming events, share information and help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and attachments and give your email address. If you get a list of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the Rovernet as an agent.
Eric Russell
List Admin
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Mon Feb 15 10:45:23 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:45:23 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B796C13.9080003@ozemail.com.au>
Hi all
For those unsure of how to set up their email client to send plain text ....
http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/qt/et070103.htm
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 2/14/2010 10:28 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
<snip>
2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in Plain Text. However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text format. If you think your message didn't get through, perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
<snip>
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sun Feb 14 16:43:14 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:43:14 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a8rgn59gd6bcbidnj922k5kdhnpkjncmfn@4ax.com>
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:28:48 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months and I thought I would use today as an example and incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
Thanks Eric.
Being a list coordinator for two groups, I can relate to much of what
you say.
Spam is just so much of a nuisance!! One of the groups is for the Car
Club and so is for financial members only, that is easy to keep the
spammers out.
The other group for Rover 75/MGZT is open to anyone with an interest
in these cars. However, I make a point of requesting real people
information from joiners. So far it has kept the spam bots out.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers,
Peter H
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Feb 14 16:58:01 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:58:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <a8rgn59gd6bcbidnj922k5kdhnpkjncmfn@4ax.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<a8rgn59gd6bcbidnj922k5kdhnpkjncmfn@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <147227.82842.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks for your support, Peter.
That's a good idea about requesting real information from real people!
At the moment, there seems to be a useful procedure done electronically. If an email address applies to join the list, the server sends a confirmation request back to that email address (Did you REALLY want to join this list?)
The nuisance factor is that if someone trolls the Internet and finds the Rovernet posting address - they have an email address to which they try to send SPAM. Unlike a regular person's Inbox, the Rovernet server stops the email from entering the Rovernet domain and bounces it back to me ("Here,....... YOU deal with it!")
The members don't see the SPAM but it seems to be increasing and diverting my attention from more positive tasks.
Now,......... if existing members, "Just play the game......." with their *own* posts, that will help.
Best wishes,
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
________________________________
From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 1:43:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:28:48 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months and I thought I would use today as an example and incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
Thanks Eric.
Being a list coordinator for two groups, I can relate to much of what
you say.
Spam is just so much of a nuisance!! One of the groups is for the Car
Club and so is for financial members only, that is easy to keep the
spammers out.
The other group for Rover 75/MGZT is open to anyone with an interest
in these cars. However, I make a point of requesting real people
information from joiners. So far it has kept the spam bots out.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers,
Peter H
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Feb 14 16:59:55 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:59:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <4B796C13.9080003@ozemail.com.au>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4B796C13.9080003@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <225563.80257.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
David,
Bless you again..........and again.........and again........ :-)
Eric
PS. You've always been there for me. Perhaps we'll meet when I'm back in Australia? - Spring of 2011....
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
________________________________
From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:45:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Hi all
For those unsure of how to set up their email client to send plain text ....
http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/qt/et070103.htm
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 2/14/2010 10:28 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
<snip>
2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in Plain Text. However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text format. If you think your message didn't get through, perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
<snip>
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Rovernet at rovernet.ca
Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
Here are the old Rovernet archives:
http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
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From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Sun Feb 14 18:36:01 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Eric,
This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been having.
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>
> ?Hi,
> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> and I thought I would use today as an example and
> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>
> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> from people whose address is not on the approved list
> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> non-member to post to the list.?? I used to look
> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> messages, and then discard and ban those
> addresses.
>
> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> (Call it address "A").? You decide to read a
> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> "Send".? The server knows that email is not
> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> messages from your registered address, it might not get
> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> buttons to let it pass through).
>
> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> Plain Text.
> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>
> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> illustrate the message.? The Rovernet server either
> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> without the attachments.
>
> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> find out
> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> don't forward messages with attachments.
>
> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> Rovernet as an agent.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Admin
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> it Now for Free!
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Feb 14 18:41:24 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:41:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <904720.30809.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks for the tip.
I'll do some research along the lines of inquiry you have illustrated.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
________________________________
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 3:36:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Eric,
This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been having.
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>
> Hi,
> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> and I thought I would use today as an example and
> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>
> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> from people whose address is not on the approved list
> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> messages, and then discard and ban those
> addresses.
>
> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> "Send". The server knows that email is not
> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> messages from your registered address, it might not get
> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> buttons to let it pass through).
>
> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> Plain Text.
> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>
> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> without the attachments.
>
> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> find out
> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> don't forward messages with attachments.
>
> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> Rovernet as an agent.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Admin
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> it Now for Free!
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
_______________________________________________
Rovernet mailing list
Rovernet at rovernet.ca
Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
Here are the old Rovernet archives:
http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sun Feb 14 19:31:43 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:31:43 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5q4hn55tb940g35fh0gnc60qpk98dqh2o5@4ax.com>
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>Eric,
>
>This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been having.
I think the reason is the Archives are freely available:
http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/
The Archives seem to contain full details of the posters' name and
addresses. Admittedly in this form:
<Peter Huttemeier peterhut at activ8.net.au> so would stop any bots
harvesting the address, but not really any human.
I am wondering Eric if it is possible to set this up as members'
access only? Or strip the email address completely somehow?
Cheers,
Peter H
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sun Feb 14 19:39:26 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:39:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <5q4hn55tb940g35fh0gnc60qpk98dqh2o5@4ax.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<5q4hn55tb940g35fh0gnc60qpk98dqh2o5@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <91951.56440.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Peter,
Following Nathan's post, I immediately contacted our web host tech support. He'll reply to me in due course.
I'll look into the server settings as well.
I hope changes can be made.......
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
________________________________
From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 4:31:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>Eric,
>
>This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been having.
I think the reason is the Archives are freely available:
http://rovernet.ca/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.ca/
The Archives seem to contain full details of the posters' name and
addresses. Admittedly in this form:
<Peter Huttemeier peterhut at activ8.net.au> so would stop any bots
harvesting the address, but not really any human.
I am wondering Eric if it is possible to set this up as members'
access only? Or strip the email address completely somehow?
Cheers,
Peter H
_______________________________________________
Rovernet mailing list
Rovernet at rovernet.ca
Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
Here are the old Rovernet archives:
http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
__________________________________________________________________
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From rovernet at rovernet.ca Mon Feb 15 00:46:27 2010
From: rovernet at rovernet.ca (The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:46:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet security
Message-ID: <803106.97067.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I have made security enhancements to the mailing list.
You may notice changes.
If the some of the changes are crippling, I'll have to review the situation.
I am awaiting a reply to my question on securing the Rovernet archives from our web host tech guy.
Hope it all works,
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
__________________________________________________________________
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 15 00:54:54 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:54:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Test
Message-ID: <916226.56149.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Made a tweak in the system.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon Feb 15 02:32:48 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:32:48 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Test
In-Reply-To: <916226.56149.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <916226.56149.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b4uhn5puu53mpdma3cj6c41tftmkgjaram@4ax.com>
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:54:54 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>Made a tweak in the system.
Received here in Australia.
Cheers,
Peter H
From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Mon Feb 15 22:07:43 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:07:43 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Test
In-Reply-To: <916226.56149.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <916226.56149.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B7A0BFF.3070601@ozemail.com.au>
Tweak received loud and clear here
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 2/14/2010 9:54 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
> Made a tweak in the system.
> Eric
>
From p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Feb 15 04:04:06 2010
From: p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk (p6estate at blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:04:06 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Test
References: <916226.56149.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A39770DAAB57404A8AFED550B1B1464B@SN037535920331>
Received in Wolverhampton UK, Cheers
Mark
Made a tweak in the system.
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon Feb 15 06:37:58 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:37:58 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Rovernet security
In-Reply-To: <803106.97067.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <803106.97067.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7EA0B53FA850DC43BE282D0A8AC85BE301DD57CA@E30IYLM1.risorse.enel>
Ok in Rome loud and clear!
Best regards, Gianluca.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Inviato: luned? 15 febbraio 2010 6.46
A: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet
Oggetto: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet security
I have made security enhancements to the mailing list.
You may notice changes.
If the some of the changes are crippling, I'll have to review the situation.
I am awaiting a reply to my question on securing the Rovernet archives from our web host tech guy.
Hope it all works,
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
__________________________________________________________________
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From roger.matheson at bigpond.com Mon Feb 15 07:36:57 2010
From: roger.matheson at bigpond.com (roger matheson)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:36:57 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Thanks to Eric more ideas please
Message-ID: <00c201caae3b$900f5d70$0100000a@owner1b4c6f2cf>
Thank you Eric for your time, expertise and commitment
to the list, that we all benfit from and value. It is much appreciated and it makes my Rovering so much more enjoyable
Please everyone ! I am still hoping for expert ideas for "surface" checks that I should undertake before an engine swop. Does anyone have experience of checking and re building an oil pump? Are parts (eg gears) available and if so from where. Does the housing tend to wear thereby increasing clearances beyond specified tolerances? All advice gratefully received.
Cheers from Roger in Oz
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From Pjemail at aol.com Mon Feb 15 09:37:14 2010
From: Pjemail at aol.com (Pjemail at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:37:14 EST
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Thanks to Eric more ideas please
Message-ID: <4baf.4ca57d1c.38aab61a@aol.com>
Dear Roger,
Please contact me off the Rovernet on _pjemail at aol.com_
(mailto:pjemail at aol.com) for any part you need for the re-build.
Regards,
Pierre Janusz
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From james.moison at gmail.com Mon Feb 15 10:38:40 2010
From: james.moison at gmail.com (james.moison at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:38:40 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Eric,
This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been having.
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>
> ?Hi,
> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> and I thought I would use today as an example and
> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>
> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> from people whose address is not on the approved list
> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> non-member to post to the list.?? I used to look
> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> messages, and then discard and ban those
> addresses.
>
> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> (Call it address "A").? You decide to read a
> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> "Send".? The server knows that email is not
> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> messages from your registered address, it might not get
> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> buttons to let it pass through).
>
> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> Plain Text.
> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>
> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> illustrate the message.? The Rovernet server either
> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> without the attachments.
>
> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> find out
> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> don't forward messages with attachments.
>
> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> Rovernet as an agent.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Admin
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> it Now for Free!
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
>_______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
_______________________________________________
Rovernet mailing list
Rovernet at rovernet.ca
Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
Here are the old Rovernet archives:
http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 15 11:54:39 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:54:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting per day of all the messages received.
I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many people like to see what is going on.
I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question. Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that as well:
http://www.classicroverforum.com/
Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
OPTION 1:
Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the question.
OPTION 2:
Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Eric,
This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been having.
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>
> Hi,
> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> and I thought I would use today as an example and
> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>
> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> from people whose address is not on the approved list
> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> messages, and then discard and ban those
> addresses.
>
> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> "Send". The server knows that email is not
> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> messages from your registered address, it might not get
> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> buttons to let it pass through).
>
> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> Plain Text.
> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>
> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> without the attachments.
>
> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> find out
> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> don't forward messages with attachments.
>
> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> Rovernet as an agent.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Admin
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> it Now for Free!
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
>_______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
_______________________________________________
Rovernet mailing list
Rovernet at rovernet.ca
Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
Here are the old Rovernet archives:
http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
__________________________________________________________________
The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
From lingfield51 at btopenworld.com Mon Feb 15 12:06:12 2010
From: lingfield51 at btopenworld.com (Partviking)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:06:12 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <934308.37509.qm@web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Option 2 does rather defeat the object of the Forum where as Option 1 allows all contributions to be seen by everyone. The problem with the Classic Rover Forum is that unless you go through clicking EVERY single topic heading then you may potentially miss something you would like to read and know about.
The downside (though personally I don't like the term but cannot think of an alternative) as James has identified is you do get everything...........warts an all, but c'mon James it's only a click of the delete button, is that so terrible? As Eric says you do have the Digest option.
Option 1 for me Eric! I may not post often but that don't mean I don't enjoy reading what others have to say....except Glenn of course then I just hit the delete button. :) :) Some of my best friends are furry Canadians! :)
Alan Francis (partviking)
________________________________
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, 15 February, 2010 16:54:39
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting per day of all the messages received.
I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many people like to see what is going on.
I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question. Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that as well:
http://www.classicroverforum.com/
Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
OPTION 1:
Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the question.
OPTION 2:
Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Eric,
This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been having.
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>
> Hi,
> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> and I thought I would use today as an example and
> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>
> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> from people whose address is not on the approved list
> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> messages, and then discard and ban those
> addresses.
>
> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> "Send". The server knows that email is not
> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> messages from your registered address, it might not get
> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> buttons to let it pass through).
>
> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> Plain Text.
> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>
> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> without the attachments.
>
> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> find out
> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> don't forward messages with attachments.
>
> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> Rovernet as an agent.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Admin
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> it Now for Free!
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
>_______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
_______________________________________________
Rovernet mailing list
Rovernet at rovernet.ca
Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
Here are the old Rovernet archives:
http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
__________________________________________________________________
The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
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From TBadrick at aol.com Mon Feb 15 12:09:53 2010
From: TBadrick at aol.com (TBadrick at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:09:53 EST
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Message-ID: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com>
Leave it the way it is please. The purpose of listservs is communication
and sharing. A listserv is as much a community as it is a source of
information. If you want something else, a listserv is probably not the right
place to be.
Every reader has the same tool called a delete button, if the title of the
email seems uninteresting, its really easy to not read it.
There are plenty of things we discuss that may not be of interest to me but
I love the group the way it is and want to thank Eric for all his hard
work and frankly the rest of you for such great posts
Tom
P4
In a message dated 2/15/2010 8:55:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
p6rovers at yahoo.com writes:
A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting
per day of all the messages received.
I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many
people like to see what is going on.
I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question.
Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the
reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format
where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to
read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that
as well:
http://www.classicroverforum.com/
Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
OPTION 1:
Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
others say about the question.
OPTION 2:
Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
answer unless it was you who asked the question.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box
doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how
to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Eric,
This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that
if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts
come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not
quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making
their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to
the SPAM issues you have been having.
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>
> Hi,
> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> and I thought I would use today as an example and
> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>
> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> from people whose address is not on the approved list
> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> messages, and then discard and ban those
> addresses.
>
> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> "Send". The server knows that email is not
> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> messages from your registered address, it might not get
> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> buttons to let it pass through).
>
> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> Plain Text.
> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>
> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> without the attachments.
>
> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> find out
> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> don't forward messages with attachments.
>
> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> Rovernet as an agent.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Admin
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> it Now for Free!
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>_______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
_______________________________________________
Rovernet mailing list
Rovernet at rovernet.ca
Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
Here are the old Rovernet archives:
http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 15 12:38:46 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:38:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <934308.37509.qm@web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Thanks for posting, Alan.
As a long-time veteran of this Rovernet and a subscriber to the Classic Forum, your measured view is important to this discussion.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
________________________________
From: Partviking <lingfield51 at btopenworld.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 9:06:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Option 2 does rather defeat the object of the Forum where as Option 1 allows all contributions to be seen by everyone. The problem with the Classic Rover Forum is that unless you go through clicking EVERY single topic heading then you may potentially miss something you would like to read and know about.
The downside (though personally I don't like the term but cannot think of an alternative) as James has identified is you do get everything...........warts an all, but c'mon James it's only a click of the delete button, is that so terrible? As Eric says you do have the Digest option.
Option 1 for me Eric! I may not post often but that don't mean I don't enjoy reading what others have to say....except Glenn of course then I just hit the delete button. :) :) Some of my best friends are furry Canadians! :)
Alan Francis (partviking)
________________________________
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, 15 February, 2010 16:54:39
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting per day of all the messages received.
I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many people like to see what is going on.
I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question. Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that as well:
http://www.classicroverforum.com/
Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
OPTION 1:
Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the question.
OPTION 2:
Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Eric,
This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been having.
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>
> Hi,
> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> and I thought I would use today as an example and
> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>
> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> from people whose address is not on the approved list
> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> messages, and then discard and ban those
> addresses.
>
> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> "Send". The server knows that email is not
> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> messages from your registered address, it might not get
> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> buttons to let it pass through).
>
> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> Plain Text.
> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>
> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> without the attachments.
>
> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> find out
> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> don't forward messages with attachments.
>
> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> Rovernet as an agent.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Admin
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> it Now for Free!
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
>_______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
_______________________________________________
Rovernet mailing list
Rovernet at rovernet.ca
Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
Here are the old Rovernet archives:
http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 15 12:55:21 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:55:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com>
References: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <200942.24121.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Thanks for your views, Tom.
The frequency of email coming from the Rovernet is adjustable.
1. By the subscriber
***You can choose to receive a message, each time it is posted by someone anywhere in the world.
***You can choose to receive a "Digest" or collection of Rovernet messages for one day but in *one* message with an index of subjects at the top.
2. By the list administrator.
**The individual message size is set at 40 KB. That can be set at a bigger or smaller number. It assumes the message is in Plain Text.
**The *digest* size is adjustable. How big in size before it is sent out - presently 30KB
*****I could set the size to be bigger or smaller. If the size is bigger, than it could be more than one day before a digest is transmitted.
**Should a digest be dispatched daily when the size threshold isn't reached: Yes or No
*****Presently, it is set at "Yes" so that there is one message a day if there is at least one message to send and it reaches 30KB.
There are ways to reduce the flow of Rovernet email.
The mailing list (Rovernet) method gets mail delivered to your door.
The Classic Forum method is that you go down to the shop to pick up your mail.
Hope that helps....
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
________________________________
From: "TBadrick at aol.com" <TBadrick at aol.com>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 9:09:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Leave it the way it is please. The purpose of listservs is
communication and sharing. A listserv is as much a community as it is a
source of information. If you want something else, a listserv is
probably not the right place to be.
Every reader has the same tool called a delete button, if the title of the
email seems uninteresting, its really easy to not read it.
There are plenty of things we discuss that may not be of interest to me but
I love the group the way it is and want to thank Eric for all his hard work and
frankly the rest of you for such great posts
Tom
P4
In a message dated 2/15/2010 8:55:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
p6rovers at yahoo.com writes:
A person
> can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting per day of
> all the messages received.
>
>I think I can divert replies so they don't
> appear on the list but many people like to see what is going on.
>
>I
> believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question. Another
> person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the reply.
> What if more people are interested in the reply?
>
>Another way to reduce
> the email box problem is move to a Forum format where each individual must go
> to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to read. That option is available
> through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that as
> well:
>http://www.classicroverforum.com/
>
>Perhaps we should take a
> poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>
>OPTION 1:
>Hands up, all
> those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the
> question.
>
>OPTION 2:
>Hands up, all those who would like to only see a
> question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the
> question.
>
>Eric
>
>
>
>
>"Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
>----- Original Message
> ----
>From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
>To:
> The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40
> AM
>Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
>Is
> there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't
> fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to clean
> a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
>Sent on the Sprint? Now
> Network from my BlackBerry?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nathan
> Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
>To:
> The original list for Rover car
> enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>Subject: Re: [Rovernet -
> INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
>Eric,
>
>This may or may not
> be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name,
> amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my
> e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of
> a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches,
> but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been
> having.
>
>Nathan
>
>
>--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell
> <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Eric Russell
> <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL]
> Rovernet Administrivia
>> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet"
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28
> PM
>>
>> Hi,
>> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these
> past few months
>> and I thought I would use today as an example
> and
>> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>>
>
>> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
>> copy
> of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
>> products, swamp
> land in some forgotten place, lottery
>> winnings, etc., etc.....) The
> server does not accept email
>> from people whose address is not on the
> approved list
>> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by
> a
>> non-member to post to the list. I used to look
>>
> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
>>
> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
>> before I follow
> the route to the server, check through the
>> messages, and then discard
> and ban those
>> addresses.
>>
>> Sometimes there are
> Rover connected messages in that
>> clogged mess. Here's where you can
> help.
>> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given
> address
>> (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
>>
> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
>> your
> partner's computer, your child's computer -
>> Call that address "B").
> You are motivated to reply
>> so you click "Reply" say your piece and
> click
>> "Send". The server knows that email is not
>> coming
> from a registered address (it's coming from
>> "B") and so I get a
> bounced message to deal with
>> (again..... time). By all means read
> Rovernet messages, but
>> please remember that if you are not sending
> Rovernet
>> messages from your registered address, it might not
> get
>> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
>>
> buttons to let it pass through).
>>
>> 2. The Rovernet server is
> set to accept messages of a
>> certain size that represent a typical,
> longish, email in
>> Plain Text.
>> However, if someone is
> using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
>> type, bold faced, underlined) the
> message gets too large
>> because of the extra lines of coding. That
> message gets
>> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain
> text
>> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
>>
> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>>
>> 3. The Rovernet server is
> security conscious and
>> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too
> great to
>> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
>>
> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
>> the Rovernet
> but wants to enhance it with pictures to
>> illustrate the message.
> The Rovernet server either
>> stops the message entirely or lets the text
> go through
>> without the attachments.
>>
>> 4. Sometimes
> people receive a message from a third party,
>> with attachments, and are
> motivated to *Forward* that
>> message to the Rovernet complete with
> attachments of
>> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying
> to
>> find out
>> the nature of the error message from the
> server. Please
>> don't forward messages with attachments.
>>
>
>> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
>> Rovernet
> is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
>> secure email system for
> Rover car owners to connect with
>> each other, announce upcoming events,
> share information and
>> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask
> on the
>> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
>>
> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
>> of
> interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
>> send it off
> (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
>> Rovernet as an
> agent.
>>
>> Eric Russell
>> List Admin
>>
>>
>
>> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
>> friends." - Aesop
> (c.620-560 BC)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>> The new Internet Explorer? 8 -
> Faster,
>> safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
>> it Now
> for Free!
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>
>>_______________________________________________
>> Rovernet
> mailing list
>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Here is where you can change
> your settings such as digest
>> mode or no-mail:
>>
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>> Here are the
> old Rovernet archives:
>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>>
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
>>
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Rovernet
> mailing list
>Rovernet at rovernet.ca
>Here is where you can change your
> settings such as digest mode or
> no-mail:
>http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>Here
> are the old Rovernet archives:
>http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>Join the Back-up list and post photos
> at:
>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon Feb 15 14:05:47 2010
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:05:47 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com>
References: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B799B0B.6020607@alum.swarthmore.edu>
I second what Tom has said -- i.e. my preference would be to stick with
Option 1. I was a subscriber to another list several years ago that was
set up like Option 2 -- as a result there was very little apparent
activity on the list, and another list (set up like option 1) covering
the same topic became much more popular. --Steve
>>OPTION 1:
Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
others say about the question.
OPTION 2:
Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read
an answer unless it was you who asked the question.<<
TBadrick at aol.com wrote:
> Leave it the way it is please. The purpose of listservs is
> communication and sharing. A listserv is as much a community as it is
> a source of information. If you want something else, a listserv is
> probably not the right place to be.
>
> Every reader has the same tool called a delete button, if the title of
> the email seems uninteresting, its really easy to not read it.
>
> There are plenty of things we discuss that may not be of interest to
> me but I love the group the way it is and want to thank Eric for all
> his hard work and frankly the rest of you for such great posts
>
> Tom
> P4
>
>
>
> 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for
> Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
>
From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Feb 15 14:57:40 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:57:40 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4B79A734.9010606@comcast.net>
james.moison at gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>
James, I think you've missed the entire point of the Rovernet which is
to submit a question to the entire body of members and receive a
cross-section of responses. This is not an online tech support service.
It is a forum, which is more conversation amongst members of a
community. Sometimes the response is incorrect and someone else reading
the message points this out. If there is no examination of the answers
supplied, they are much less dependable and perhaps much less useful.
As others will point out, you can change to the digest option if you
don't want your inbox filling up. I don't now what options you have when
you use a gadget with a 3-inch display like your Blackberry, but real
email software can be used to sort your email. I use Thunderbird for
reading my email and have created a message filter that automatically
sorts all of my Rovernet email messages into a folder called,
appropriately enough, Rovernet. When I want see what is going on at
Rovernet, I open that folder and read the messages there. My main inbox
shows only my personal and business messages without a lot of extraneous
messages interspersed.
Frankly, there are not enough messages from the Rovernet to really pile
up in my inbox. I'm always surprised when people complain about the
"huge" number of messages originating from Rovernet. Five or ten
messages per day is nothing. I started sorting my messages because of
another list I subscribe to that brings in about thirty messages per
day, most of which I have no interest in. When I visit that folder, I
immediately delete twenty or thirty messages just based on the subject
heading.
Anyway, the problem is not in Rovernet. The problem is that most of us
do not use the options available to us to manage our email intelligently.
Glen
From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Feb 15 15:10:08 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:10:08 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <4B799B0B.6020607@alum.swarthmore.edu>
References: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com>
<4B799B0B.6020607@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: <4B79AA20.9020900@comcast.net>
S Manwell wrote:
> I second what Tom has said -- i.e. my preference would be to stick
> with Option 1. I was a subscriber to another list several years ago
> that was set up like Option 2 -- as a result there was very little
> apparent activity on the list, and another list (set up like option 1)
> covering the same topic became much more popular. --Steve
Eric,
Leave the Rovernet as it is. It works and builds community as it is.
It's up to the individual to manage their incoming email to avoid
potential clutter.
Glen
From RoverP6 at gmx.de Mon Feb 15 15:24:29 2010
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:24:29 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
References: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com><4B799B0B.6020607@alum.swarthmore.edu>
<4B79AA20.9020900@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <DC93C97A59F04ADCA17D7CF1D8DFF71C@rw>
I agree, Glen
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Glen Wilson" <rovercar at comcast.net>
An: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Februar 2010 21:10
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Eric,
>
> Leave the Rovernet as it is. It works and builds community as it is. It's up
> to the individual to manage their incoming email to avoid potential clutter.
>
> Glen
From vmitps at netspace.net.au Mon Feb 15 15:42:09 2010
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (vmitps at netspace.net.au)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:42:09 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
Option 1
>
> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>
> OPTION 1:
> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others
> say about the question.
>
> OPTION 2:
> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't
> fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to
> clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Eric,
>
> This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if
> I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up
> which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure
> why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way
> into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM
> issues you have been having.
>
> Nathan
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> > To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
> >
> > Hi,
> > My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> > and I thought I would use today as an example and
> > incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
> >
> > The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> > copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> > products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> > winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> > from people whose address is not on the approved list
> > SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> > non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> > at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> > frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> > before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> > messages, and then discard and ban those
> > addresses.
> >
> > Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> > clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> > 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> > (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> > Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> > your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> > Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> > so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> > "Send". The server knows that email is not
> > coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> > "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> > (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> > please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> > messages from your registered address, it might not get
> > through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> > buttons to let it pass through).
> >
> > 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> > certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> > Plain Text.
> > However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> > type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> > because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> > stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> > format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> > perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
> >
> > 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> > doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> > deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> > it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> > the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> > illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> > stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> > without the attachments.
> >
> > 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> > with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> > message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> > pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> > find out
> > the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> > don't forward messages with attachments.
> >
> > I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> > Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> > secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> > each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> > help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> > Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> > attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> > of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> > send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> > Rovernet as an agent.
> >
> > Eric Russell
> > List Admin
> >
> >
> > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> > friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> > safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> > it Now for Free!
> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> > Rovernet mailing list
> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> > mode or no-mail:
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> > Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo!
> Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
>
>
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From lafbery at telus.net Mon Feb 15 15:48:45 2010
From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:48:45 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
Message-ID: <FD29968AC5F843A6B55497DD75FB5AD4@ChloePC>
Option 1 please
Barry
Option 1
>
> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>
> OPTION 1:
> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
> others
> say about the question.
>
> OPTION 2:
> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box
> doesn't
> fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to
> clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Eric,
>
> This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that
> if
> I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come
> up
> which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite
> sure
> why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way
> into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the
> SPAM
> issues you have been having.
>
> Nathan
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> > To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
> >
> > Hi,
> > My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> > and I thought I would use today as an example and
> > incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
> >
> > The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> > copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> > products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> > winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> > from people whose address is not on the approved list
> > SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> > non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> > at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> > frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> > before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> > messages, and then discard and ban those
> > addresses.
> >
> > Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> > clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> > 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> > (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> > Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> > your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> > Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> > so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> > "Send". The server knows that email is not
> > coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> > "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> > (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> > please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> > messages from your registered address, it might not get
> > through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> > buttons to let it pass through).
> >
> > 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> > certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> > Plain Text.
> > However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> > type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> > because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> > stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> > format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> > perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
> >
> > 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> > doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> > deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> > it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> > the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> > illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> > stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> > without the attachments.
> >
> > 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> > with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> > message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> > pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> > find out
> > the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> > don't forward messages with attachments.
> >
> > I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> > Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> > secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> > each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> > help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> > Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> > attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> > of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> > send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> > Rovernet as an agent.
> >
> > Eric Russell
> > List Admin
> >
> >
> > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> > friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> > safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> > it Now for Free!
> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> > Rovernet mailing list
> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> > mode or no-mail:
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> > Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for
> Yahoo!
> Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
>
>
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Tue Feb 16 11:13:04 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:13:04 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B7AC410.90100@ozemail.com.au>
I'm with Glenn
Leave it the way it is.
Rovernet should be an open forum where we receive a range of
solutions/replies.
OPTION 1
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 2/15/2010 8:54 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting per day of all the messages received.
>
> I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many people like to see what is going on.
>
> I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question. Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
>
> Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that as well:
> http://www.classicroverforum.com/
>
> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>
> OPTION 1:
> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the question.
>
> OPTION 2:
> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>
> Eric
>
From goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com Mon Feb 15 16:56:25 2010
From: goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com (Dennis Brooks)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:56:25 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <4B7AC410.90100@ozemail.com.au>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>,
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
<4B7AC410.90100@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <COL114-W16923F64C2A87EFC8B1E73DE4A0@phx.gbl>
I may as well chime in too...please keep things as they are...there may be some small consequences but I am willing to deal with them if/when they arise.
Dennis Brooks
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:13:04 -0800
> From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> I'm with Glenn
> Leave it the way it is.
> Rovernet should be an open forum where we receive a range of
> solutions/replies.
>
> OPTION 1
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> On 2/15/2010 8:54 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> > A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting per day of all the messages received.
> >
> > I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many people like to see what is going on.
> >
> > I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question. Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
> >
> > Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that as well:
> > http://www.classicroverforum.com/
> >
> > Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
> >
> > OPTION 1:
> > Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the question.
> >
> > OPTION 2:
> > Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
> >
> > Eric
> >
>
>
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From slatskars at comcast.net Mon Feb 15 17:13:45 2010
From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:13:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
Message-ID: <694324050.3898301266272025148.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Option 1! The number of emails on Rovernet is quite small. Notice how many times we get a test, just to see if it is still up.
Slats
----- Original Message -----
From: vmitps at netspace.net.au
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:42:09 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Option 1
>
> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
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From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon Feb 15 17:20:06 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:20:06 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <4B7AC410.90100@ozemail.com.au>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:13:04 -0800, you wrote:
>I'm with Glenn
>Leave it the way it is.
>Rovernet should be an open forum where we receive a range of
>solutions/replies.
Me too. I much prefer the email discussion group alternative to a web
based forum or message board approach.
There may be a point reached where membership is so large and postings
so frequent that a web based forum is a better way to go, but this
group is nowhere near that level.
A judicious use of the delete key is all that is required IMHO.
Cheers,
Peter H
From debby at michaelleeadv.com Mon Feb 15 15:57:25 2010
From: debby at michaelleeadv.com (MLAD mail)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:57:25 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
Message-ID: <E55C21135F824C6AB3CF5B0C16F4EE11@Debby1>
Definitely OPTION 1... I seldom ask or answer, but always read. It's
enjoyable to see what others are doing, Rover-wise. And I often save
messages with information/resources that might be useful at a later date.
-- Debby in Beaumont, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Option 1
>
> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>
> OPTION 1:
> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
> others
> say about the question.
>
> OPTION 2:
> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box
> doesn't
> fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to
> clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Eric,
>
> This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that
> if
> I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come
> up
> which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite
> sure
> why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way
> into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the
> SPAM
> issues you have been having.
>
> Nathan
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> > To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
> >
> > Hi,
> > My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> > and I thought I would use today as an example and
> > incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
> >
> > The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> > copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> > products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> > winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> > from people whose address is not on the approved list
> > SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> > non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> > at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> > frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> > before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> > messages, and then discard and ban those
> > addresses.
> >
> > Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> > clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> > 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> > (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> > Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> > your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> > Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> > so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> > "Send". The server knows that email is not
> > coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> > "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> > (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> > please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> > messages from your registered address, it might not get
> > through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> > buttons to let it pass through).
> >
> > 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> > certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> > Plain Text.
> > However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> > type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> > because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> > stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> > format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> > perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
> >
> > 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> > doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> > deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> > it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> > the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> > illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> > stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> > without the attachments.
> >
> > 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> > with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> > message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> > pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> > find out
> > the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> > don't forward messages with attachments.
> >
> > I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> > Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> > secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> > each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> > help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> > Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> > attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> > of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> > send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> > Rovernet as an agent.
> >
> > Eric Russell
> > List Admin
> >
> >
> > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> > friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> > safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> > it Now for Free!
> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> > Rovernet mailing list
> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> > mode or no-mail:
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> > Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for
> Yahoo!
> Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
>
>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 15 17:40:37 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:40:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <4B7AC410.90100@ozemail.com.au>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4B7AC410.90100@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <867878.10109.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hmmm,......... We have heard from most of the veterans. Their preference is Option 1. I am glad that I had a sense of the group.
I *have* moved to beef up security. Let me know if you see we need any more tweaking.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 8:13:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
I'm with Glenn
Leave it the way it is.
Rovernet should be an open forum where we receive a range of
solutions/replies.
OPTION 1
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 2/15/2010 8:54 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting per day of all the messages received.
>
> I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many people like to see what is going on.
>
> I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question. Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
>
> Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that as well:
> http://www.classicroverforum.com/
>
> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>
> OPTION 1:
> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the question.
>
> OPTION 2:
> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>
> Eric
>
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From galmpton at shaw.ca Mon Feb 15 17:52:34 2010
From: galmpton at shaw.ca (galmpton)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:52:34 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
Message-ID: <F90846B813E2495BB3CA07CF65E6FEBA@user789ad50f2d>
Option 1
Al Gunnarson
SD1
----- Original Message -----
From: <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Option 1
>
> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>
> OPTION 1:
> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
> others
> say about the question.
>
> OPTION 2:
> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box
> doesn't
> fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to
> clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Eric,
>
> This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that
> if
> I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come
> up
> which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite
> sure
> why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way
> into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the
> SPAM
> issues you have been having.
>
> Nathan
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> > To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
> >
> > Hi,
> > My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> > and I thought I would use today as an example and
> > incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
> >
> > The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> > copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> > products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> > winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> > from people whose address is not on the approved list
> > SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> > non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> > at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> > frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> > before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> > messages, and then discard and ban those
> > addresses.
> >
> > Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> > clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> > 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> > (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> > Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> > your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> > Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> > so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> > "Send". The server knows that email is not
> > coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> > "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> > (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> > please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> > messages from your registered address, it might not get
> > through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> > buttons to let it pass through).
> >
> > 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> > certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> > Plain Text.
> > However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> > type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> > because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> > stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> > format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> > perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
> >
> > 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> > doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> > deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> > it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> > the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> > illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> > stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> > without the attachments.
> >
> > 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> > with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> > message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> > pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> > find out
> > the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> > don't forward messages with attachments.
> >
> > I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> > Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> > secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> > each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> > help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> > Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> > attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> > of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> > send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> > Rovernet as an agent.
> >
> > Eric Russell
> > List Admin
> >
> >
> > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> > friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
> > safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
> > it Now for Free!
> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> > Rovernet mailing list
> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
> > mode or no-mail:
> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> > Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for
> Yahoo!
> Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
>
>
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From ilcommodor at aol.com Mon Feb 15 18:04:42 2010
From: ilcommodor at aol.com (ilcommodor at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:04:42 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <694324050.3898301266272025148.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <694324050.3898301266272025148.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8CC7CAA63F64CB1-6C4C-5328@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com>
Option 1. i don't know most of you folks, but your advice -- kind and
unkind -- is all worth having a look at.
jamie kitman
nyack, new york
1970 3500S
1980 3500
From rovercar at comcast.net Mon Feb 15 18:35:44 2010
From: rovercar at comcast.net (Glen Wilson)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:35:44 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <8CC7CAA63F64CB1-6C4C-5328@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com>
References: <694324050.3898301266272025148.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
<8CC7CAA63F64CB1-6C4C-5328@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B79DA50.8020204@comcast.net>
ilcommodor at aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Option 1. i don't know most of you folks, but your advice -- kind and
> unkind -- is all worth having a look at.
The only "unkind" posting I saw was the original post:
"Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within."
I don't consider Rovernet contributions to be spam. If I did, I wouldn't ask that the format of the list be changed to save me the effort of sifting through all of the worthless postings for that rare gem: a useful or enjoyable message. "Spam comes from within." A rather bizarre statement to post to a mailing list.
Glen
From hbob at bellsouth.net Mon Feb 15 18:40:20 2010
From: hbob at bellsouth.net (Bob Harris)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:40:20 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
Message-ID: <4B79DB64.6060803@bellsouth.net>
Option 1
Web based could be a great resource, but is there enough base?
1980 SD1
vmitps at netspace.net.au wrote:
> Option 1
>
>
>> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>>
>> OPTION 1:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others
>> say about the question.
>>
>> OPTION 2:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
>> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>>
>> Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't
>> fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to
>> clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
>> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if
>> I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up
>> which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure
>> why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way
>> into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM
>> issues you have been having.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>>> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>>> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
>>> and I thought I would use today as an example and
>>> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>>>
>>> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
>>> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
>>> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
>>> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
>>> from people whose address is not on the approved list
>>> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
>>> non-member to post to the list. I used to look
>>> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
>>> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
>>> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
>>> messages, and then discard and ban those
>>> addresses.
>>>
>>> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
>>> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
>>> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
>>> (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
>>> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
>>> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
>>> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
>>> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
>>> "Send". The server knows that email is not
>>> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
>>> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
>>> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
>>> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
>>> messages from your registered address, it might not get
>>> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
>>> buttons to let it pass through).
>>>
>>> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
>>> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
>>> Plain Text.
>>> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
>>> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
>>> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
>>> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
>>> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
>>> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>>>
>>> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
>>> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
>>> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
>>> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
>>> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
>>> illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
>>> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
>>> without the attachments.
>>>
>>> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
>>> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
>>> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
>>> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
>>> find out
>>> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
>>> don't forward messages with attachments.
>>>
>>> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
>>> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
>>> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
>>> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
>>> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
>>> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
>>> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
>>> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
>>> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
>>> Rovernet as an agent.
>>>
>>> Eric Russell
>>> List Admin
>>>
>>>
>>> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
>>> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>>> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
>>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>>
>>
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>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
>>
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From den at aachenkennels.com Mon Feb 15 18:42:31 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:42:31 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
References: <694324050.3898301266272025148.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><8CC7CAA63F64CB1-6C4C-5328@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com>
<4B79DA50.8020204@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16081E64@Server.adoptsec.local>
Option 1...den in Perth west Australia.
Still reading all those most enjoyable post on blueing my
tool...!!sticking it in hot cleaning solution is a bit of a worry I'm
trying to face upto.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
On Behalf Of Glen Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2010 7:36 AM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
ilcommodor at aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Option 1. i don't know most of you folks, but your advice -- kind and
> unkind -- is all worth having a look at.
The only "unkind" posting I saw was the original post:
"Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box
doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is
or how to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within."
I don't consider Rovernet contributions to be spam. If I did, I wouldn't
ask that the format of the list be changed to save me the effort of
sifting through all of the worthless postings for that rare gem: a
useful or enjoyable message. "Spam comes from within." A rather bizarre
statement to post to a mailing list.
Glen
From roverman2 at verizon.net Mon Feb 15 18:56:30 2010
From: roverman2 at verizon.net (Dermot Harvey)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:56:30 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet
Message-ID: <0A4276A7-B213-4E1D-8038-0183FDAF24D5@verizon.net>
Hi Group,
I think the list is fine the way it is.
Dermot Harvey
From kkinard at att.net Mon Feb 15 19:14:15 2010
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:14:15 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <4B799B0B.6020607@alum.swarthmore.edu>
References: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com>
<4B799B0B.6020607@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: <4B79E357.4040108@att.net>
Stick with option 1, please.
-Kent K.
S Manwell wrote:
> I second what Tom has said -- i.e. my preference would be to stick
> with Option 1. I was a subscriber to another list several years ago
> that was set up like Option 2 -- as a result there was very little
> apparent activity on the list, and another list (set up like option 1)
> covering the same topic became much more popular. --Steve
>
> >>OPTION 1:
> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
> others say about the question.
>
> OPTION 2:
> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read
> an answer unless it was you who asked the question.<<
>
> TBadrick at aol.com wrote:
>> Leave it the way it is please. The purpose of listservs is
>> communication and sharing. A listserv is as much a community as it is
>> a source of information. If you want something else, a listserv is
>> probably not the right place to be.
>> Every reader has the same tool called a delete button, if the title
>> of the email seems uninteresting, its really easy to not read it.
>> There are plenty of things we discuss that may not be of interest to
>> me but I love the group the way it is and want to thank Eric for all
>> his hard work and frankly the rest of you for such great posts
>>
>> Tom
>> P4
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
From vsimkins at btconnect.com Mon Feb 15 19:21:37 2010
From: vsimkins at btconnect.com (Ginny Simkins)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:21:37 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
References: <mailman.138.1266274345.24553.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <B70F9C2A50AE4DB2A2F1737CA2C3FAE0@mobile2>
Hello Eric,
Option 1 for us, please.
Can you allow 2 email addresses to work for one subscription? I recently
sent advice from this address (which isn't the one that's registered (see cc
address for registered email) but, for obvious reasons, it had to be checked
before sending to members. Would you be able to add this email address too?
I view on both so it would be good to be able to contribute from both
addresses.
All the best
Ginny
----- Original Message -----
From: <rovernet-request at rovernet.ca>
To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:52 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Rovernet Digest, Vol 20, Issue 29
> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to
> rovernet at rovernet.ca
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
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>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..."
>
>
> Please edit your digest reply by changing the subject line to the topic to
> which you are referring.
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Rovernet Administrivia (David Read)
> 2. Re: Rovernet Administrivia (Dennis Brooks)
> 3. Re: Rovernet Administrivia (slatskars at comcast.net)
> 4. Re: Rovernet Administrivia (Peter Huttemeier)
> 5. Re: Rovernet Administrivia (MLAD mail)
> 6. Re: Rovernet Administrivia (Eric Russell)
> 7. Re: Rovernet Administrivia (galmpton)
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:13:04 -0800
> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> Message-ID: <4B7AC410.90100 at ozemail.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I'm with Glenn
> Leave it the way it is.
> Rovernet should be an open forum where we receive a range of
> solutions/replies.
>
> OPTION 1
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> On 2/15/2010 8:54 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
>> A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE
>> posting per day of all the messages received.
>>
>> I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many
>> people like to see what is going on.
>>
>> I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question.
>> Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees
>> the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
>>
>> Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format
>> where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose
>> what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I
>> use that as well:
>> http://www.classicroverforum.com/
>>
>> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>>
>> OPTION 1:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
>> others say about the question.
>>
>> OPTION 2:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
>> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:56:25 -0400
> From: Dennis Brooks <goodmedicinedr at hotmail.com>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> Message-ID: <COL114-W16923F64C2A87EFC8B1E73DE4A0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> I may as well chime in too...please keep things as they are...there may be
> some small consequences but I am willing to deal with them if/when they
> arise.
>
>
>
> Dennis Brooks
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:13:04 -0800
>> From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>>
>> I'm with Glenn
>> Leave it the way it is.
>> Rovernet should be an open forum where we receive a range of
>> solutions/replies.
>>
>> OPTION 1
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> South Oz
>>
>>
>> On 2/15/2010 8:54 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
>> > A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE
>> > posting per day of all the messages received.
>> >
>> > I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many
>> > people like to see what is going on.
>> >
>> > I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question.
>> > Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees
>> > the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
>> >
>> > Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format
>> > where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose
>> > what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum.
>> > I use that as well:
>> > http://www.classicroverforum.com/
>> >
>> > Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>> >
>> > OPTION 1:
>> > Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
>> > others say about the question.
>> >
>> > OPTION 2:
>> > Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read
>> > an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>> >
>> > Eric
>> >
>>
>>
>
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> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:13:45 +0000 (UTC)
> From: slatskars at comcast.net
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
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>
> Option 1! The number of emails on Rovernet is quite small. Notice how many
> times we get a test, just to see if it is still up.
>
>
>
> Slats
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: vmitps at netspace.net.au
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:42:09 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Option 1
>
>>
>> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:20:06 +1100
> From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> Message-ID: <nshjn5l2v4b6dharued39qr5mngdrvb8j7 at 4ax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:13:04 -0800, you wrote:
>
>>I'm with Glenn
>>Leave it the way it is.
>>Rovernet should be an open forum where we receive a range of
>>solutions/replies.
>
> Me too. I much prefer the email discussion group alternative to a web
> based forum or message board approach.
>
> There may be a point reached where membership is so large and postings
> so frequent that a web based forum is a better way to go, but this
> group is nowhere near that level.
>
> A judicious use of the delete key is all that is required IMHO.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter H
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:57:25 -0600
> From: "MLAD mail" <debby at michaelleeadv.com>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> Message-ID: <E55C21135F824C6AB3CF5B0C16F4EE11 at Debby1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Definitely OPTION 1... I seldom ask or answer, but always read. It's
> enjoyable to see what others are doing, Rover-wise. And I often save
> messages with information/resources that might be useful at a later date.
> -- Debby in Beaumont, Texas
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
>
> Option 1
>
>>
>> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>>
>> OPTION 1:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
>> others
>> say about the question.
>>
>> OPTION 2:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
>> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>>
>> Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box
>> doesn't
>> fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to
>> clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
>> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that
>> if
>> I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts
>> come
>> up
>> which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite
>> sure
>> why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way
>> into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the
>> SPAM
>> issues you have been having.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>> > To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
>> > and I thought I would use today as an example and
>> > incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>> >
>> > The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
>> > copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
>> > products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
>> > winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
>> > from people whose address is not on the approved list
>> > SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
>> > non-member to post to the list. I used to look
>> > at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
>> > frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
>> > before I follow the route to the server, check through the
>> > messages, and then discard and ban those
>> > addresses.
>> >
>> > Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
>> > clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
>> > 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
>> > (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
>> > Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
>> > your partner's computer, your child's computer -
>> > Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
>> > so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
>> > "Send". The server knows that email is not
>> > coming from a registered address (it's coming from
>> > "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
>> > (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
>> > please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
>> > messages from your registered address, it might not get
>> > through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
>> > buttons to let it pass through).
>> >
>> > 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
>> > certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
>> > Plain Text.
>> > However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
>> > type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
>> > because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
>> > stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
>> > format. If you think your message didn't get through,
>> > perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>> >
>> > 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
>> > doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
>> > deal with each person's message by me, individually -
>> > it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
>> > the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
>> > illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
>> > stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
>> > without the attachments.
>> >
>> > 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
>> > with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
>> > message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
>> > pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
>> > find out
>> > the nature of the error message from the server. Please
>> > don't forward messages with attachments.
>> >
>> > I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
>> > Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
>> > secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
>> > each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
>> > help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
>> > Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
>> > attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
>> > of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
>> > send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
>> > Rovernet as an agent.
>> >
>> > Eric Russell
>> > List Admin
>> >
>> >
>> > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
>> > friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
>> > safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
>> > it Now for Free!
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>> > Rovernet mailing list
>> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
>> > mode or no-mail:
>> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>> > Here are the old Rovernet archives:
>> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
>> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Rovernet mailing list
>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or
>> no-mail:
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:40:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> Message-ID: <867878.10109.qm at web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hmmm,......... We have heard from most of the veterans. Their preference
> is Option 1. I am glad that I had a sense of the group.
>
> I *have* moved to beef up security. Let me know if you see we need any
> more tweaking.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 8:13:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> I'm with Glenn
> Leave it the way it is.
> Rovernet should be an open forum where we receive a range of
> solutions/replies.
>
> OPTION 1
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> On 2/15/2010 8:54 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
>> A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE
>> posting per day of all the messages received.
>>
>> I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many
>> people like to see what is going on.
>>
>> I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question.
>> Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees
>> the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
>>
>> Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format
>> where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose
>> what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I
>> use that as well:
>> http://www.classicroverforum.com/
>>
>> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>>
>> OPTION 1:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
>> others say about the question.
>>
>> OPTION 2:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
>> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:52:34 -0800
> From: "galmpton" <galmpton at shaw.ca>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
> <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> Message-ID: <F90846B813E2495BB3CA07CF65E6FEBA at user789ad50f2d>
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> reply-type=original
>
> Option 1
>
> Al Gunnarson
> SD1
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
> To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
>
> Option 1
>
>>
>> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>>
>> OPTION 1:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
>> others
>> say about the question.
>>
>> OPTION 2:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
>> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>>
>> Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box
>> doesn't
>> fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to
>> clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
>> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
>> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that
>> if
>> I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts
>> come
>> up
>> which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite
>> sure
>> why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way
>> into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the
>> SPAM
>> issues you have been having.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>> > To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
>> > and I thought I would use today as an example and
>> > incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>> >
>> > The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
>> > copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
>> > products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
>> > winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
>> > from people whose address is not on the approved list
>> > SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
>> > non-member to post to the list. I used to look
>> > at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
>> > frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
>> > before I follow the route to the server, check through the
>> > messages, and then discard and ban those
>> > addresses.
>> >
>> > Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
>> > clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
>> > 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
>> > (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
>> > Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
>> > your partner's computer, your child's computer -
>> > Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
>> > so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
>> > "Send". The server knows that email is not
>> > coming from a registered address (it's coming from
>> > "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
>> > (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
>> > please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
>> > messages from your registered address, it might not get
>> > through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
>> > buttons to let it pass through).
>> >
>> > 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
>> > certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
>> > Plain Text.
>> > However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
>> > type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
>> > because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
>> > stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
>> > format. If you think your message didn't get through,
>> > perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>> >
>> > 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
>> > doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
>> > deal with each person's message by me, individually -
>> > it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
>> > the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
>> > illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
>> > stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
>> > without the attachments.
>> >
>> > 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
>> > with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
>> > message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
>> > pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
>> > find out
>> > the nature of the error message from the server. Please
>> > don't forward messages with attachments.
>> >
>> > I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
>> > Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
>> > secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
>> > each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
>> > help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
>> > Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
>> > attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
>> > of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
>> > send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
>> > Rovernet as an agent.
>> >
>> > Eric Russell
>> > List Admin
>> >
>> >
>> > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
>> > friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
>> > safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
>> > it Now for Free!
>> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> > Rovernet mailing list
>> > Rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> > Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
>> > mode or no-mail:
>> > http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>> > Here are the old Rovernet archives:
>> > http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>> > Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
>> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Rovernet mailing list
>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or
>> no-mail:
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
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From kgraffy at mindspring.com Mon Feb 15 20:12:25 2010
From: kgraffy at mindspring.com (Kurt Graffy)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:12:25 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <22A71531-F8A7-4CAC-9E7F-E174A891297F@mindspring.com>
Option 1 is the way to go.
On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting per day of all the messages received.
>
> I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many people like to see what is going on.
>
> I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question. Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
>
> Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format where each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that as well:
> http://www.classicroverforum.com/
>
> Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>
> OPTION 1:
> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the question.
>
> OPTION 2:
> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
> To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>
> Eric,
>
> This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the SPAM issues you have been having.
>
> Nathan
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
>> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
>> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>>
>> Hi,
>> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
>> and I thought I would use today as an example and
>> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>>
>> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
>> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
>> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
>> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
>> from people whose address is not on the approved list
>> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
>> non-member to post to the list. I used to look
>> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
>> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
>> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
>> messages, and then discard and ban those
>> addresses.
>>
>> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
>> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
>> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
>> (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
>> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
>> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
>> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
>> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
>> "Send". The server knows that email is not
>> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
>> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
>> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
>> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
>> messages from your registered address, it might not get
>> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
>> buttons to let it pass through).
>>
>> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
>> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
>> Plain Text.
>> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
>> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
>> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
>> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
>> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
>> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>>
>> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
>> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
>> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
>> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
>> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
>> illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
>> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
>> without the attachments.
>>
>> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
>> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
>> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
>> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
>> find out
>> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
>> don't forward messages with attachments.
>>
>> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
>> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
>> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
>> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
>> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
>> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
>> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
>> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
>> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
>> Rovernet as an agent.
>>
>> Eric Russell
>> List Admin
>>
>>
>> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
>> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster,
>> safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get
>> it Now for Free!
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Rovernet mailing list
>> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest
>> mode or no-mail:
>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
>> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
>> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
>> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rovernet mailing list
> Rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Here is where you can change your settings such as digest mode or no-mail:
> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca
> Here are the old Rovernet archives:
> http://www.rovernet.ca/Old..Archives/
> Join the Back-up list and post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> The new Internet Explorer? 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
>
From webgeezer at warbaby.com Mon Feb 15 20:55:52 2010
From: webgeezer at warbaby.com (Robert Arnold)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:55:52 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.ma
il.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@b
da145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
Message-ID: <p0620073fc79fab3a5fce@[192.168.0.2]>
Definitely Option 1
>
> > Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>>
>> OPTION 1:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see
>>what others
>> say about the question.
>>
>> OPTION 2:
>> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
>> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>>
> > Eric
> >
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Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way
they ought to be."
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From joncarter at cox.net Mon Feb 15 23:11:22 2010
From: joncarter at cox.net (joncarter at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:11:22 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <FD29968AC5F843A6B55497DD75FB5AD4@ChloePC>
Message-ID: <20100215231122.L9YJP.709709.imail@fed1rmwml33>
I vote for Option 1 also. I rarely post but enjoy listening to the dialogue.
Jon Carter
Scottsdale, AZ
---- Barry & Shirley Lafbery <lafbery at telus.net> wrote:
> Option 1 please
> Barry
>
>
> Option 1
>
> >
> > Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
> >
> > OPTION 1:
> > Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
> > others
> > say about the question.
> >
> > OPTION 2:
> > Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
> > answer unless it was you who asked the question.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> >
> > Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box
> > doesn't
> > fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or how to
> > clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
> > Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
> > To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> > This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that
> > if
> > I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come
> > up
> > which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite
> > sure
> > why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their way
> > into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the
> > SPAM
> > issues you have been having.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> > > To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> > > and I thought I would use today as an example and
> > > incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
> > >
> > > The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> > > copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> > > products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> > > winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> > > from people whose address is not on the approved list
> > > SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> > > non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> > > at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> > > frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> > > before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> > > messages, and then discard and ban those
> > > addresses.
> > >
> > > Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> > > clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> > > 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> > > (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> > > Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> > > your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> > > Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> > > so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> > > "Send". The server knows that email is not
> > > coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> > > "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> > > (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> > > please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> > > messages from your registered address, it might not get
> > > through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> > > buttons to let it pass through).
> > >
> > > 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> > > certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> > > Plain Text.
> > > However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> > > type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> > > because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> > > stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> > > format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> > > perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
> > >
> > > 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> > > doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> > > deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> > > it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> > > the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> > > illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> > > stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> > > without the attachments.
> > >
> > > 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> > > with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> > > message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> > > pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> > > find out
> > > the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> > > don't forward messages with attachments.
> > >
> > > I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> > > Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> > > secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> > > each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> > > help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> > > Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> > > attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> > > of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> > > send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> > > Rovernet as an agent.
> > >
> > > Eric Russell
> > > List Admin
> > >
> > >
> > > "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
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From Nash4447 at cs.com Mon Feb 15 23:16:09 2010
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:16:09 EST
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] voting
Message-ID: <1ea90.79d7b55e.38ab7609@cs.com>
Option 1
Glenn Los Angeles
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From phing at videotron.ca Mon Feb 15 23:17:04 2010
From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:17:04 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <4B79AA20.9020900@comcast.net>
References: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com>
<4B799B0B.6020607@alum.swarthmore.edu> <4B79AA20.9020900@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000c01caaebe$e5a25200$b0e6f600$@ca>
Good Grief!!
I agree with Glen,Please leave things as they are
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Glen Wilson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:10 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
S Manwell wrote:
> I second what Tom has said -- i.e. my preference would be to stick
> with Option 1. I was a subscriber to another list several years ago
> that was set up like Option 2 -- as a result there was very little
> apparent activity on the list, and another list (set up like option 1)
> covering the same topic became much more popular. --Steve
Eric,
Leave the Rovernet as it is. It works and builds community as it is.
It's up to the individual to manage their incoming email to avoid
potential clutter.
Glen
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon Feb 15 23:42:05 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:42:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <000c01caaebe$e5a25200$b0e6f600$@ca>
References: <a578.5caa1e03.38aad9e1@aol.com>
<4B799B0B.6020607@alum.swarthmore.edu>
<4B79AA20.9020900@comcast.net> <000c01caaebe$e5a25200$b0e6f600$@ca>
Message-ID: <371742.62698.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
WHAT?
You agree with GLEN!
OK. It's agreed ...... we stay with option 1.... :-) ROFLMHO
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 8:17:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Good Grief!!
I agree with Glen,Please leave things as they are
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Glen Wilson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:10 PM
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
S Manwell wrote:
> I second what Tom has said -- i.e. my preference would be to stick
> with Option 1. I was a subscriber to another list several years ago
> that was set up like Option 2 -- as a result there was very little
> apparent activity on the list, and another list (set up like option 1)
> covering the same topic became much more popular. --Steve
Eric,
Leave the Rovernet as it is. It works and builds community as it is.
It's up to the individual to manage their incoming email to avoid
potential clutter.
Glen
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From peterispeter at comcast.net Mon Feb 15 23:15:47 2010
From: peterispeter at comcast.net (peter king)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:15:47 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <p0620073fc79fab3a5fce@[192.168.0.2]>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com><496476.43227.qm@web110306.ma
il.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@b
da145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<1266266529.4b79b1a1ad891@webmail.netspace.net.au>
<p0620073fc79fab3a5fce@[192.168.0.2]>
Message-ID: <392B9E87-30F7-4EE5-9B94-747ED8D47B4F@comcast.net>
Option 1 is my vote
peter
On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Robert Arnold wrote:
> Definitely Option 1
>
>
>>
>> > Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
>>>
>>> OPTION 1:
>>> Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also
>>> see what others
>>> say about the question.
>>>
>>> OPTION 2:
>>> Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and
>>> not read an
>>> answer unless it was you who asked the question.
>>>
>> > Eric
>> >
>
> --
>
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> (Long overdue for an update. One of these days...)
> --
>
> "Hope has two beautiful daughters: their names are anger and
> courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make
> them the way they ought to be."
>
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From gofanu at cust.usachoice.net Tue Feb 16 00:50:27 2010
From: gofanu at cust.usachoice.net (Fletcher Millmore)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:50:27 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia MKII
Message-ID: <4B7A3223.9080600@usachoice.net>
Definitely option 1, it's useless otherwise.
People who are willing to be PM'd can put their email for all to see,
and it looks like it's always there anyhow.
I'd appreciate it like crazy if everybody had to put a reasonable
approximation of their location up. Been a lot of "car for sale" etc
with no indication where on the planet it may be.
I get the digest,
!!!>>BUT:<<!!!
IF you have your system set to quote the message replied to, you are
making a mess. Be kind, snip it, or "compose mail to" with a better
subject line rather than hitting "reply".
I have had at least 6 digests today, because people keeping replying
with the whole tedious day's repeats. Yeah I got a delete button, but it
is a PITA to sort throught the dozens of headers, footers, "end of
digest" lines etc.
Can't be any easier for poor Eric than for me either - thanks guy!
And,
I'd hate to miss any gems of repartee!
FRM,
NW Penna, deep in snow
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Feb 16 01:23:12 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:23:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia MKII
In-Reply-To: <4B7A3223.9080600@usachoice.net>
References: <4B7A3223.9080600@usachoice.net>
Message-ID: <907230.19759.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Fletcher,
If I was nearby - I'd shake your hand.
If it's cold as you say, we'd be inside for "an adult beverage" getting warm by a fire :-)
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net>
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 9:50:27 PM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia MKII
Definitely option 1, it's useless otherwise.
People who are willing to be PM'd can put their email for all to see, and it looks like it's always there anyhow.
I'd appreciate it like crazy if everybody had to put a reasonable approximation of their location up. Been a lot of "car for sale" etc with no indication where on the planet it may be.
I get the digest,
!!!>>BUT:<<!!!
IF you have your system set to quote the message replied to, you are making a mess. Be kind, snip it, or "compose mail to" with a better subject line rather than hitting "reply".
I have had at least 6 digests today, because people keeping replying with the whole tedious day's repeats. Yeah I got a delete button, but it is a PITA to sort throught the dozens of headers, footers, "end of digest" lines etc.
Can't be any easier for poor Eric than for me either - thanks guy!
And,
I'd hate to miss any gems of repartee!
FRM,
NW Penna, deep in snow
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From ABoasberg at webtv.net Tue Feb 16 08:57:52 2010
From: ABoasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:57:52 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: ilcommodor@aol.com's message of Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:04:42 -0500
Message-ID: <13100-4B7AA460-7823@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>
I also vote for Option 1.
Albert
From nathanobuch at yahoo.com Tue Feb 16 10:54:31 2010
From: nathanobuch at yahoo.com (Nathan Obuch)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:54:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <91951.56440.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <321455.92732.qm@web110301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Eric,
Do let us know when the poll is closed! It seems like the overwhelming majority of people want option 1, as do I.
Cheers,
Nathan
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Feb 16 11:21:12 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:21:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <321455.92732.qm@web110301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <321455.92732.qm@web110301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <538542.11462.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Good idea.
THE POLL IS CLOSED.
We will stay with option 1.
Thanks for all the input.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 7:54:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Eric,
Do let us know when the poll is closed! It seems like the overwhelming majority of people want option 1, as do I.
Cheers,
Nathan
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From ianalice at shaw.ca Tue Feb 16 12:44:56 2010
From: ianalice at shaw.ca (Alice and Ian Potts)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:44:56 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <833746.82316.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<496476.43227.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<87267992-1266248175-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-877860607-@bda145.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
<426654.21025.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <25BBD6F72ABB4491BA32537D5F87136D@IandAlicePC>
No question about it, Eric, Option 1 does the greatest good for all! Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
A person can set their settings to receive a "digest" which is ONE posting
per day of all the messages received.
I think I can divert replies so they don't appear on the list but many
people like to see what is going on.
I believe that it can be changed so that a person might ask a question.
Another person replies but only the original asker of the question sees the
reply. What if more people are interested in the reply?
Another way to reduce the email box problem is move to a Forum format where
each individual must go to a web page, sign-in, and then choose what to
read. That option is available through the Classic Rover Forum. I use that
as well:
http://www.classicroverforum.com/
Perhaps we should take a poll on this list. I may have misjudged.
OPTION 1:
Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what
others say about the question.
OPTION 2:
Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an
answer unless it was you who asked the question.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: "james.moison at gmail.com" <james.moison at gmail.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:38:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Is there a way members can reply directly to eachother, so ny in. Box
doesn't fill up each day with 100 messages about how cool something is or
how to clean a sparkplug. The spam comes from within.
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Obuch <nathanobuch at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:01
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Eric,
This may or may not be related to the SPAM issue, but I have noticed that if
I Google my name, amongst other sordid things :-) some Rovernet posts come
up which include my e-mail address and the Rovernet address. I'm not quite
sure why the results of a private, subscription listserve are making their
way into google searches, but I wonder if this could be contributing to the
SPAM issues you have been having.
Nathan
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
>
> Hi,
> My Rovernet workload has ramped up these past few months
> and I thought I would use today as an example and
> incorporate ideas on how Rovernet subscribers can help me.
>
> The SPAM experts have obtained our address. They send a
> copy of their garbage to the list email address. (personal
> products, swamp land in some forgotten place, lottery
> winnings, etc., etc.....) The server does not accept email
> from people whose address is not on the approved list
> SO......... it arrives in my email box as a request by a
> non-member to post to the list. I used to look
> at each one when it was delivered. Now that it is happening
> frequently, I wait until it builds to 6 messages or so
> before I follow the route to the server, check through the
> messages, and then discard and ban those
> addresses.
>
> Sometimes there are Rover connected messages in that
> clogged mess. Here's where you can help.
> 1. You have subscribed to the Rovernet with a given address
> (Call it address "A"). You decide to read a
> Rovernet post from another computer (your work computer,
> your partner's computer, your child's computer -
> Call that address "B"). You are motivated to reply
> so you click "Reply" say your piece and click
> "Send". The server knows that email is not
> coming from a registered address (it's coming from
> "B") and so I get a bounced message to deal with
> (again..... time). By all means read Rovernet messages, but
> please remember that if you are not sending Rovernet
> messages from your registered address, it might not get
> through (sometimes I will recognize someone and click
> buttons to let it pass through).
>
> 2. The Rovernet server is set to accept messages of a
> certain size that represent a typical, longish, email in
> Plain Text.
> However, if someone is using Rich Text (fancy colour, font
> type, bold faced, underlined) the message gets too large
> because of the extra lines of coding. That message gets
> stopped and doesn't get through. Select a plain text
> format. If you think your message didn't get through,
> perhaps you didn't use Plain Text.
>
> 3. The Rovernet server is security conscious and
> doesn't accept attachments. The flood is too great to
> deal with each person's message by me, individually -
> it's computerized. Sometimes a person sends a message to
> the Rovernet but wants to enhance it with pictures to
> illustrate the message. The Rovernet server either
> stops the message entirely or lets the text go through
> without the attachments.
>
> 4. Sometimes people receive a message from a third party,
> with attachments, and are motivated to *Forward* that
> message to the Rovernet complete with attachments of
> pictures. That clogs the system and involves me trying to
> find out
> the nature of the error message from the server. Please
> don't forward messages with attachments.
>
> I hope that explains the situation more clearly. The
> Rovernet is supposed to be a smooth, safe, simple, and
> secure email system for Rover car owners to connect with
> each other, announce upcoming events, share information and
> help. If you would like to share pictures, ask on the
> Rovernet who would like to receive these pictures and
> attachments and give your email address. If you get a list
> of interested parties, develop an email with attachments and
> send it off (probably as a BCC copy) to them. Use the
> Rovernet as an agent.
>
> Eric Russell
> List Admin
>
>
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
> friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
>
>
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Tue Feb 16 21:18:08 2010
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:18:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
Message-ID: <866126.36411.qm@web180503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
OPTION 1:
Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the question.
OPTION 2:
Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
I like to see what others say as long as it's not just tagged onto everybody's responses. One of my other list has many members just hitting the reply button and it becomes an endless string of responses.
roland
From p6rovers at yahoo.com Tue Feb 16 22:02:41 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:02:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
In-Reply-To: <866126.36411.qm@web180503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <866126.36411.qm@web180503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <52752.5992.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I agree.
Mailing List etiquette requests that people edit their replies, delete non-essential information, and include only the main idea which triggered the response.
The etiquette also requests that digest users, hit reply, delete by highlighting and clicking backspace, all the words that don't apply and keep the main idea as above. It also requests digest users to change the subject to match the main idea which triggered their response.
Thanks for the post, Roland.
Eric
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 6:18:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Administrivia
OPTION 1:
Hands up, all those who would like to see a question and also see what others say about the question.
OPTION 2:
Hands up, all those who would like to only see a question and not read an answer unless it was you who asked the question.
I like to see what others say as long as it's not just tagged onto everybody's responses. One of my other list has many members just hitting the reply button and it becomes an endless string of responses.
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From MarkCoorparoo at aol.com Wed Feb 17 08:43:21 2010
From: MarkCoorparoo at aol.com (MarkCoorparoo at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:43:21 EST
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000 or Lexus.
Message-ID: <3ece.6febcdf2.38ad4c79@aol.com>
Hi All,
Just catching up again. Don't know if the Lexus V8 will go
into the P6 Engine Room but think it should considering a Gas Turbine was
intended as an option.
Apparently the Lexus will fit between an SD1's rails as a bloke I used
to know, who was in the Wrecking Yard Business, rang another bloke in SE Qld
who was doing it while I was present. This was about ten years ago and the
bloke I knew wouldn't tell me who the other bloke was. Trade Secret. It had
come about because I had been expounding to the bloke I knew, how I would
like to drop a BMW V12 into an SD1.
I am pretty sure it ( the BMW V12 ) would fit because the SD1 engine
room was designed to take either a Vertical Six or a Ninety Degree Eight, so a
Sixty Degree "Double Six" should fit. Even more so when the sweet little
Beam V12 was intended to go between Struts. A Jag would have had no hope.
The BMW V12 SD1 plot only started because Rover was a BMW "Brand", at
the time. Urrrgh.... I still like the idea though.
Any of these swaps always hits weak spots. The Toyota box would have to
be one the meaty late Supra boxes that were intended to be screwed on the
back of the Lexus. These are big boxes, so maybe a bit of tin beating may be
needed to upset the neighbors. A cut and shut surgery might also happen. I
have recently seen brand new six speeds advertised in local 'Hot Rod " type
magazines for about two and a half grand from memory. LS2's were about six
Gorillas and current, beautiful Holden IRS diff assy's, one and a half,
brand new. The diff housing is a work of art. No wonder the new Camaro was
designed in Melbourne.
On the third member, a lovely little Windsor sounds great but you can
easily get over 300 horse out of them at less than five and a half grand. That
is lots of torque, so we are going to break the right angle drive. Has
anyone attached a Jag back end to a P6, yet ???
Here in Oz, we have this fella called Hadfield, down in Ned Kelly
Country. He is the bloke who built the V12 '55 Chev. ( That is a 27 Litre V12 ).
He also makes all sorts of other great stuff, including a kit to bolt a Jag
rear into Holden Utes ( I still have a near dead, that will start, V8 4
speed HQ ute in the front yard that can be seen on Google Earth) . I once
considered this Half Car for that transplant.
That makes me wonder just how hard it would be to integrate a Jag IRS
into a P6.
I doubt if I will ever do this but float the idea on the back of the Red
P6 Ford revelation.
I had the thought ages ago but with an SD1 in mind ( My First SD1 which
is also still in the front yard). Might get back there one day. If all this
sounds too way out, the lunatics down in Adelaide used to have a pic on
their WebSite of a space frame with IRS all set to get mated with an average
TR7 shell in order to build a pretty good TR8. Very Interesting..
So, a P6 or other Rover SuperCar is plausible, I think the Yanks
(sorry) call it "Pro Touring " . The P6 can take bigger engines provided they
fit and are not too heavy. The power has to go through a transmission that
will be bigger than standard, so floor pan mods are required. What about
Autos ? Second Hand ZF Six - Seven speeds are going to become cheap in Oz
before too long, unless the the theives find a foriegn market for them. By the
way, the cars that the ZF and other great late auto's coming from in Oz, also
usually have great IRS as well. More great bits.
I think eventually, a P6 's ultimate development will come down to the
front suspenders. We can stick much bigger wheels (diameter ) on the front
that will allow much bigger brakes but you can't take the offset too far
out otherwise the thing will steer like a pig. Don't need to flare the guards
much, in fact the last P6 Race Car I saw, don't think the Guards were
flared at all ( will stand corrected when I find the pics). We can throw some
bracing in the front to try and stop the windscreen from cracking but
eventually the oddball P6 FrontEnd will be the limiting factor. It will either
break, or we modify the car so much that it is no longer a P6.
By the way, here in Oz, if the boys were going to stick the big tyres
and/or wheels on the back and were serious, instead of the "California Jack Up
" that the poor little Red Rover copped, they would have "Tubbed " the back
end. Kept its ride height right.
Oh, its getting late, haven't even got to the BMW V12 P6 idea yet but
for those in Oz, forget the Windsor, start with a Holden. Rover V8 came
from GM, they are cousins!!!..
Brocky used to say that the Holden is 20 years newer than the Small
Block Chev. They are also lighter and smaller ( I used to pick them up and throw
them on the workbench, now with Sciatica like Glen's, I would even try to
avoid picking up an iron head). Holden should have got the alloy V8 instead
of it being given away, Ozzies imagine a Rover powered EH !!!
The early thin wall cast blocks were very light but do break. A late
Statesman block with after Market Alloy Heads and a stroker kit (5.8 Litres),
should make 400 Horse all Day for about the same weight as a Rangie Cross
Bolt but on Carbs. Inject and blow they do make well over a thousand horse
but not for long. This is where the limit of the P6 chassis ends. I had a
look at the Camel P6 Rover Repco Holden in its day, the P6 frame is unique but
those guys were starting to chop it up.
Summary, check out websites, y'all. Harrop for brakes and Hoppers
Stoppers. Dyno Don for Yella Terra Stuff, Alloy Heads, Roller Rockers etc. Forget
where the strokers come from. Dellow in Sydney to join Gearboxes and Donks.
It is late, got to go and make some money. Don't forget Hadfield from
Castlemaine.
Bye All,
MWJ.
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From britcarnut at yahoo.com Wed Feb 17 13:25:40 2010
From: britcarnut at yahoo.com (Geoff K)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:25:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000
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No Rover content here, but seeing the V12 '55 Chevy referenced, I felt like responding...
That car was at the Half Moon Bay (California) "Dream Machines" show a few years back. To call it a V12 Chevy is like calling the Burj Dubai (sorry, Burj Khalifa now?) an office building. It has to be seen, in person, to be believed. It's basically an engine the size of a Mini Cooper squeezed into the outlines of a '55 Chevy. If I recall correctly, there are zero alterations to the basic shape of the car. But the interior consists of engine, lots of roll cage, and just enough space for a single seat and a driver. The workmanship is breathtaking. Unfortunately I didn't get to hear or see it run but I expect that it sounds and feels like the earthquake from hell.
One of the coolest custom cars I have ever seen.
Geoff
"This is the final test of a gentleman: his respect for those who can be of no possible service to him."
- William Lyon Phelps
>
> ? ? Here in Oz, we have this fella called
> Hadfield, down in Ned Kelly
> Country. He is the bloke who built the V12 '55 Chev. ( That
> is a 27 Litre V12 ).
> He also makes all sorts of other great stuff, including a
> kit to bolt a Jag
> rear into Holden Utes ( I still have a near dead,
> that? will start, V8 4
> speed HQ ute? in the front yard that can be seen on
> Google Earth) .? I once
> considered? this Half Car for that transplant.
From michael.maher at virgin.net Wed Feb 17 16:37:37 2010
From: michael.maher at virgin.net (Mike Maher)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:37:37 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000 or Lexus. - How
about a Rover built V12 in an SD1?
References: <3ece.6febcdf2.38ad4c79@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00e301cab019$6d65a790$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0>
Details of what must be the ultimate engine swop - the Rover SD1 27-litre V12 are at http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29&Itemid=19
Briefly,
There is a road legal matt black Rover SD1 powered by a 27-litre V12 Rover built Meteor tank engine (the unsupercharged version of the Merlin aero engine) capable of 200mph. These engines were built by Rover at the Acocks Green Factory in Birmingham. The engine has specially manufactured throttle bodies to get a smoother power delivery plus an Emerald ECU and delivers 1550lb/ft of torque at 1600rpm; at its 400rpm idling speed there is more torque than the cars original 3.5 litre V8 engine at redline. The drivetrain has parts from a Leyland Leopard bus - a set of reduction gears working in reverse to lower the torque delivered and at the same time increase the engine's rpm output to the Jaguar V12 TH 400 autobox. As installed in a Centurion tank, the engine only revs to 2500rpm. The back axle is from a Ford F150 pick-up truck. Half of the 27-litre block fits inside the engine bay, but the rest of it juts into the car's cabin. An LPG kit has been fitted to contain fuelling costs.
Some car!
best regards
Mike
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From bobslandies at hotmail.com Wed Feb 17 22:44:47 2010
From: bobslandies at hotmail.com (Robert Shannon)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:44:47 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet security
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Hi Eric,
Would you be able to unsubscribe me from this list as I now only have an interest in my early Series 1 Land Rovers. It has been very informative while I have been a subscriber and I wish you all well in the future.
Bob Shannon, Sydney Australia
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:46:27 -0800
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> From: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet security
>
> I have made security enhancements to the mailing list.
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed Feb 17 23:21:43 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:21:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet security
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OK. Done. Bye for now and best wishes.
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To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 7:44:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet security
Hi Eric,
Would you be able to unsubscribe me from this list as I now only have an interest in my early Series 1 Land Rovers. It has been very informative while I have been a subscriber and I wish you all well in the future.
Bob Shannon, Sydney Australia
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:46:27 -0800
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> From: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet security
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> I am awaiting a reply to my question on securing the Rovernet archives from our web host tech guy.
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From den at aachenkennels.com Thu Feb 18 03:35:32 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:35:32 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Jet 1
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Evening All,
For those of you who are into your P4. There is a show on Fox ( pay TV)
called Chop Shop U.K. In the current show they are chopping up two
Rover P4 and bit of a Jag and turning them into a replica of the jet 1.
Here is a YouTube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZlxQO2IGhI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOLksxpsU4A
I like it...although I think I would have gone for a Rover V8 highly
tuned of course..
Kind Regards.
Den Gallacher
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu Feb 18 04:56:02 2010
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:56:02 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Ford V8 in a 2000 or Lexus. -
Howabout a Rover built V12 in an SD1?
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Incredible! Splendid!
Thanks for these news.
A Rover SD1 war plane!
Best regards, gianluca.
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Inviato: mercoled? 17 febbraio 2010 22.38
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Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Ford V8 in a 2000 or Lexus. - Howabout a Rover built V12 in an SD1?
Details of what must be the ultimate engine swop - the Rover SD1 27-litre V12 are at http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29&Itemid=19
Briefly,
There is a road legal matt black Rover SD1 powered by a 27-litre V12 Rover built Meteor tank engine (the unsupercharged version of the Merlin aero engine) capable of 200mph. These engines were built by Rover at the Acocks Green Factory in Birmingham. The engine has specially manufactured throttle bodies to get a smoother power delivery plus an Emerald ECU and delivers 1550lb/ft of torque at 1600rpm; at its 400rpm idling speed there is more torque than the cars original 3.5 litre V8 engine at redline. The drivetrain has parts from a Leyland Leopard bus - a set of reduction gears working in reverse to lower the torque delivered and at the same time increase the engine's rpm output to the Jaguar V12 TH 400 autobox. As installed in a Centurion tank, the engine only revs to 2500rpm. The back axle is from a Ford F150 pick-up truck. Half of the 27-litre block fits inside the engine bay, but the rest of it juts into the car's cabin. An LPG kit has been fitted to contain fuelling costs.
Some car!
best regards
Mike
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From anders at xoz.dk Thu Feb 18 05:24:06 2010
From: anders at xoz.dk (Anders Hedelund)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:24:06 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] R: Ford V8 in a 2000 or Lexus.
- Howabout a Rover built V12 in an SD1?
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See it move and listen to it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDnSYRnj9Ic
...Anders
From peterhut at activ8.net.au Thu Feb 18 07:10:10 2010
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:10:10 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Jet 1
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:35:32 +0900, you wrote:
>Evening All,
>
>For those of you who are into your P4. There is a show on Fox ( pay TV)
>called Chop Shop U.K. In the current show they are chopping up two
>Rover P4 and bit of a Jag and turning them into a replica of the jet 1.
I have pics on the web site early last year. One of our members was
visiting Brooklands when they were filming and took these photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/sets/72157612303629235/
Cheers,
Peter H
From den at aachenkennels.com Fri Feb 19 20:09:55 2010
From: den at aachenkennels.com (Dennis Gallacher)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:09:55 +0900
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: [RoverAustralia] Info and fact
finding
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Anyone able to Help Steve?.
Den Gallacher
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Sent: Friday, 19 February 2010 7:47 PM
To: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [RoverAustralia] Info and fact finding
It wont be long befor I have finished my carport and I can start work on
my 1937 model. Can anyone suggest where I can obtain a parts list and
where I can look at a similar model? I wrote a letter to a person in the
UK who has a 1937 model asking if they could help me with photo's but as
yet I haven't got a reply. I need to look at a similar model so that I
dont over look possible missing bits.
I scraped back some of the paint and I can now say that the origional
paint was royal blue.
Regards Steve.
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From phing at videotron.ca Fri Feb 19 23:43:28 2010
From: phing at videotron.ca (Patrick Hiron)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:43:28 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: [RoverAustralia] Info and
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Den
Your friend should join the UK Rover sports Register, just Google them for
information on the RSR .The RSR publishes a work shop manual and parts list
for P2 1934 -1939 Rovers There are two guys in the UK who supply Pre WW2
Rover parts . Mike Couldry and Mike Evans , they both advertise regularly in
the RSR magazine " Freewheel "
Cheers
Patrick
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Anyone able to Help Steve?.
Den Gallacher
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It wont be long befor I have finished my carport and I can start work on my
1937 model. Can anyone suggest where I can obtain a parts list and where I
can look at a similar model? I wrote a letter to a person in the UK who has
a 1937 model asking if they could help me with photo's but as yet I haven't
got a reply. I need to look at a similar model so that I dont over look
possible missing bits.
I scraped back some of the paint and I can now say that the origional paint
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Regards Steve.
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From dirk at vy-tek.com Sat Feb 20 08:38:03 2010
From: dirk at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:38:03 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Help for Australia P2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1266640995.10494.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
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Hello Den and Steve,
What model 1937 are attempting to restore? Can you send pictures? Patrick is
correct you should do the following:
1) Join the RSR and join the Australian Rover club if you have not already
2) Go on to the forum and introduce your self and ask for pictures to be
emailed to you.
3) Buy the manuals from the RSR
4) Post pictures of your car and solicit advice on a area by area basis
5) Talk to Scott at Scotts old rubber he has a re war rover and does offer
some parts and I am sure advice.
6) Both Mike Couldry and Mike Evans are good guys and will offer advice and
parts.
7) You should also keep an eye on both EBay Australia and UK for critical
parts.
8) Feel free to email or even call me directly I have a 1935 and a 1933
Rover and would always be willing to assist you.
You can visit www RoverAmerica com and see many Rovers.
Good Luck
Dirk in the States
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Anyone able to Help Steve?.
Den Gallacher
From: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
[mailto:RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2010 7:47 PM
To: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [RoverAustralia] Info and fact finding
It wont be long befor I have finished my carport and I can start work on my
1937 model. Can anyone suggest where I can obtain a parts list and where I
can look at a similar model? I wrote a letter to a person in the UK who has
a 1937 model asking if they could help me with photo's but as yet I haven't
got a reply. I need to look at a similar model so that I dont over look
possible missing bits.
I scraped back some of the paint and I can now say that the origional paint
was royal blue.
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:43:28 -0500
From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] FW: [RoverAustralia] Info and
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Den
Your friend should join the UK Rover sports Register, just Google them for
information on the RSR .The RSR publishes a work shop manual and parts list
for P2 1934 -1939 Rovers There are two guys in the UK who supply Pre WW2
Rover parts . Mike Couldry and Mike Evans , they both advertise regularly in
the RSR magazine " Freewheel "
Cheers
Patrick
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Anyone able to Help Steve?.
Den Gallacher
From: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
[mailto:RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2010 7:47 PM
To: RoverAustralia at yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [RoverAustralia] Info and fact finding
It wont be long befor I have finished my carport and I can start work on my
1937 model. Can anyone suggest where I can obtain a parts list and where I
can look at a similar model? I wrote a letter to a person in the UK who has
a 1937 model asking if they could help me with photo's but as yet I haven't
got a reply. I need to look at a similar model so that I dont over look
possible missing bits.
I scraped back some of the paint and I can now say that the origional paint
was royal blue.
Regards Steve.
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From jaguru at bellsouth.net Tue Feb 23 14:12:46 2010
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (James Dean)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:12:46 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] [Rovernet - Need a 3500S right
window regulator
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Does anyone have a 3500S right window regulator? I a may also need glass and track. I have window frames. Thank you, James Dean..
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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] How many old Rovers still in the US
Hello again Rovernet,
I have 2 1970 3500s Rovers. One is an unrusty but incomplete parts car which is for sale for $300. It has 1980 Georgia plates on it and would save somebody hundreds of hours in bodywork if they wanted to paint it and put their rusty or damaged car's parts into this bodyshell. I have it stored inside as well. I can be reached at gbbourque at gmail.com if anybody would like more info or a few photos that I took while moving the car last summer.
My second 1970 3500s is my restored red 4.0 engine five speed conversion car. I have owned since the early 90s and it got me into Rovers in the first place.
A former employer, Ted Howard, Howard's Garage, Warren Maine has had probably 50 Rover cars pass through his shop since he opened it in 1970. These days, he has a roadworthy p4 that a deceased customer willed him, and just got a 2000TC going and sold it to a customer last summer. He also has 2 rough 2000 parts cars and a 75 parts car. I helped him scrap a couple of p5s and a pair of p4s while I worked for him. There are the remains of 10-15 LAnd Rovers at his place too!! Some Rover owners attended a weekend car disassembly session some years ago there before some of these cars were hauled away!
Garrett Bourque
GB Services Auto Restoration
Jefferson, Maine
website with Rover and Jag photos of projects from my shop www.gbservicesusa.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:32 PM, garrett bourque <gbbourque at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello rovernet,
I do not have the foggiest idea of how many Rovers remain in the USA. Having said that... A really hard core Porsche club out west was able to poll different motor vehicle registry offices in different states to ask about how many classic Porsches there were left. That only counts registered cars of course...who knows how many more Rovers there are lurking in the weeds!! Some have definitely given up their parts to prolong the lives of others!!
Garrett Bourque
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:11 PM, <ilcommodor at aol.com> wrote:
A friend of a friend, writing from the UK's austin rover website, wants to know what our best guess as to how many Rover cars remain in the States. Any guesses -- educated or semi-educated preferred?
Jamie Kitman
Nyack New York.
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:11:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:22:11 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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When you post a 'system test', do you want a response? Sometimes the
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we don't get the test!!!!!! BTW I did get the test in Melbourne, Australia.
Ray Wilkins
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From: boulter.t.h at bigpond.com (Tanya&Hugh Boulter)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:07:55 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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Eric,
Thanks for the e-mail.
Received in Australia.
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Hugh
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:50:48 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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Eric,
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Mike
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From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sat Feb 27 04:53:31 2010
From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:23:31 +1030
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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Cheers
Dave Read
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sat Feb 27 05:19:21 2010
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> Eric,
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From irishrover1 at sympatico.ca Sat Feb 27 05:44:22 2010
From: irishrover1 at sympatico.ca (BEN RODGERS)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:44:22 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
References: <384532.28292.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001c01cab792$577f01d0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0>
<AF06CA9803D345A3B49F997C898A57E8@rw>
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Loud and clear on Prince Edward Island
Ben (irishrover)
*************
Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
Royal Navy?
then
Visit our website and blog at
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From galmpton at shaw.ca Sat Feb 27 09:58:04 2010
From: galmpton at shaw.ca (galmpton)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:58:04 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
References: <384532.28292.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<001c01cab792$577f01d0$0201a8c0@miked77a6a71f0>
<AF06CA9803D345A3B49F997C898A57E8@rw>
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Message-ID: <1F3DA0ACD9EC44E68515F90D86B50DF7@user789ad50f2d>
Eric
Five by five inVictoria BC.
Al Gunnarson
SD1
----- Original Message -----
From: "BEN RODGERS" <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
> Loud and clear on Prince Edward Island
> Ben (irishrover)
> *************
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
> Royal Navy?
> then
> Visit our website and blog at
> www.irishroversbooks.com
>
>
>
From tomas.borjeson at gmail.com Sat Feb 27 11:20:27 2010
From: tomas.borjeson at gmail.com (Tomas =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6rjeson?=)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:20:27 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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OK
At 06:05 2010-02-27, you wrote:
>System Test "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
>friends." - Aesop (c.620-560
>BC)
>__________________________________________________________________
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Sat Feb 27 11:23:13 2010
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE G LACERTE, LANCE G LA CERTE)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:23:13 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Rovernet Digest, Vol 20, Issue 39
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Today's Topics:
1. OT test (Eric Russell)
2. Re: OT test (Patrick Hiron)
3. Re: OT test (Eric Russell)
4. Re: OT test (Ray Wilkins)
5. Re: OT test (Tanya&Hugh Boulter)
6. Re: OT test (Mike Maher)
7. Re: OT test (David Read)
8. Re: OT test (RoverP6 at gmx.de<mailto:RoverP6 at gmx.de>)
9. Re: OT test (BEN RODGERS)
10. Re: OT test (galmpton)
11. Re: OT test (Tomas B?rjeson)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:05:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com<mailto:p6rovers at yahoo.com>>
To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Message-ID: <384532.28292.qm at web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com<mailto:384532.28292.qm at web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>>
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System Test
?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:06:54 -0500
From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca<mailto:phing at videotron.ca>>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Message-ID: <000001cab76a$adda9440$098fbcc0$@ca<mailto:000001cab76a$adda9440$098fbcc0$@ca>>
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Eric
Received in Montreal
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Eric Russell
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:05 AM
To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
System Test
?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:11:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com<mailto:p6rovers at yahoo.com>>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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Thanks, Patrick.
Eric
?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
----- Original Message ----
From: Patrick Hiron <phing at videotron.ca<mailto:phing at videotron.ca>>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 9:06:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Eric
Received in Montreal
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Eric Russell
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:05 AM
To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
System Test
?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:22:11 +1100
From: Ray Wilkins <raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com<mailto:raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com>>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Message-ID: <4B88BA13.1010309 at bigpond.com<mailto:4B88BA13.1010309 at bigpond.com>>
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Eric,
When you post a 'system test', do you want a response? Sometimes the
inbox gets a tad overloaded with replies. Maybe we could let you know if
we don't get the test!!!!!! BTW I did get the test in Melbourne, Australia.
Ray Wilkins
On 27/02/2010 4:05 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
> System Test
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/<http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/>
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> No virus found in this incoming message.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:07:55 +1100
From: "Tanya&Hugh Boulter" <boulter.t.h at bigpond.com<mailto:boulter.t.h at bigpond.com>>
To: "'The original list for Rover car enthusiasts.'"
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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Eric,
Thanks for the e-mail.
Received in Australia.
Cheers,
Hugh
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Eric Russell
Sent: Saturday, 27 February 2010 4:05 PM
To: INTERNATIONAL Rovernet
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
System Test
?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
__________________________________________________________________
Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer?
8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:50:48 -0000
From: "Mike Maher" <michael.maher at virgin.net<mailto:michael.maher at virgin.net>>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Message-ID: <001c01cab792$577f01d0$0201a8c0 at miked77a6a71f0<mailto:001c01cab792$577f01d0$0201a8c0 at miked77a6a71f0>>
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Eric,
All Received in the UK
Mike
----- Original Message -----
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To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:05 AM
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
System Test
"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:23:31 +1030
From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au<mailto:defender110 at ozemail.com.au>>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Message-ID: <4B88EB9B.8020709 at ozemail.com.au<mailto:4B88EB9B.8020709 at ozemail.com.au>>
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Ok here Eric
Cheers
Dave Read
South Oz
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:19:21 +0100
From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de<mailto:RoverP6 at gmx.de>>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Message-ID: <AF06CA9803D345A3B49F997C898A57E8 at rw<mailto:AF06CA9803D345A3B49F997C898A57E8 at rw>>
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Received in Germany
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info<http://www.roverp6.info/>
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Mike Maher" <michael.maher at virgin.net<mailto:michael.maher at virgin.net>>
An: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Februar 2010 10:50
Betreff: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
> Eric,
>
> All Received in the UK
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Russell" <p6rovers at yahoo.com<mailto:p6rovers at yahoo.com>>
> To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:05 AM
> Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
>
>
> System Test
> "Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer?
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:44:22 -0400
From: "BEN RODGERS" <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca<mailto:irishrover1 at sympatico.ca>>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP309228338C3D5B7FF961EB953E0 at phx.gbl<mailto:BLU0-SMTP309228338C3D5B7FF961EB953E0 at phx.gbl>>
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reply-type=response
Loud and clear on Prince Edward Island
Ben (irishrover)
*************
Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
Royal Navy?
then
Visit our website and blog at
www.irishroversbooks.com<http://www.irishroversbooks.com/>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:58:04 -0800
From: "galmpton" <galmpton at shaw.ca<mailto:galmpton at shaw.ca>>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Message-ID: <1F3DA0ACD9EC44E68515F90D86B50DF7 at user789ad50f2d<mailto:1F3DA0ACD9EC44E68515F90D86B50DF7 at user789ad50f2d>>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
Eric
Five by five inVictoria BC.
Al Gunnarson
SD1
----- Original Message -----
From: "BEN RODGERS" <irishrover1 at sympatico.ca<mailto:irishrover1 at sympatico.ca>>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts." <rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
> Loud and clear on Prince Edward Island
> Ben (irishrover)
> *************
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
> Royal Navy?
> then
> Visit our website and blog at
> www.irishroversbooks.com<http://www.irishroversbooks.com/>
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:20:27 +0100
From: Tomas B?rjeson <tomas.borjeson at gmail.com<mailto:tomas.borjeson at gmail.com>>
To: "The original list for Rover car enthusiasts."
<rovernet at rovernet.ca<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Message-ID: <4b89469d.0506d00a.2c57.ffff9eef at mx.google.com<mailto:4b89469d.0506d00a.2c57.ffff9eef at mx.google.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
OK
At 06:05 2010-02-27, you wrote:
>System Test "Misfortune tests the sincerity of
>friends." - Aesop (c.620-560
>BC)
>__________________________________________________________________
>Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier
>with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for
>Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/<http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/>
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From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat Feb 27 11:23:21 2010
From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:23:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
In-Reply-To: <4B88BA13.1010309@bigpond.com>
References: <384532.28292.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<4B88BA13.1010309@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <365692.86094.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Good question, Ray.
If someone tests the system - could be me - could be someone else -?the system goes through the drill of accepting an email and then sending it out as planned.? If I receive my one email back, I know that the overall system is working. No one else, *has* to reply to a test email. It's amusing - nut not essential.? :-)
On the other hand - if I don't get my email back, there is something wrong at the server level or with my own email system.? :-(
Eric
?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
________________________________
From: Ray Wilkins <raymond.wilkins at bigpond.com>
To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 10:22:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
Eric,
When you post a 'system test', do you want a response? Sometimes the inbox gets a tad overloaded with replies. Maybe we could let you know if we don't get the test!!!!!! BTW I did get the test in Melbourne, Australia.
Ray Wilkins
On 27/02/2010 4:05 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
System Test
>?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
>Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer? 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
>
>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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From relliott44 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 27 11:37:10 2010
From: relliott44 at yahoo.com (Richard Elliott)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:37:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Test
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howdy
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT Test
To: "INTERNATIONAL Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 11:54 PM
Made a tweak in the system.
Eric
?"Misfortune tests the sincerity of friends." - Aesop (c.620-560 BC)
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From: eruditefluffwad at yahoo.com (Erudite Fluffwad)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:38:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test
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From webgeezer at warbaby.com Sat Feb 27 12:50:16 2010
From: webgeezer at warbaby.com (Robert Arnold)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:50:16 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] Test
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sat Feb 27 16:38:39 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:38:39 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S servo fittings
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Hi all ........
On the brake pressure failure switch the front ports are 3/8-24 unf thread and the backs 7/16-20 unf thread.......the line from the servo slave cylinder to the pressure failure back port has both fitting sizes on the same line...... I wondering where to get the 7/16-20 unf brake fittings that still fit the 3/16 brake lines.........i have some from my MG buddy but the flare on the line goes through the nuts i have when i make the new lines.....if worst comes to worst i could use the old fitting on a new line but its already rounded and doesn't look good, when the rest of the engine bay is restored........
still haven't made a perfect bubble flare yet either so may just stick with a double flare....LOL much easier
Cheers
Bill Robertson
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From magnet at roverclub.org Sat Feb 27 18:26:27 2010
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:26:27 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S servo fittings
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Hi Bill,
You can get 3/8-24 to 7/16-20 brake line adaptors that let you use the
smaller fittings in the larger holes. I got one from PartSource in
Newmarket -- I suspect most car part places would be able to supply --
easier than trying to find the 7/16 end for the small tubing. The male
7/16 end of the adapter has the proper bubble flare profile. 'Tis what
I used on my 3500S.
Cheers,
-- Bill Daddis
===================================
Bill Robertson wrote:
> Hi all ........
>
> On the brake pressure failure switch the front ports
> are 3/8-24 unf thread and the backs 7/16-20 unf thread.......the line
> from the servo slave cylinder to the pressure failure back port has
> both fitting sizes on the same line...... I wondering where to get the
> 7/16-20 unf brake fittings that still fit the 3/16 brake
> lines.........i have some from my MG buddy but the flare on the line
> goes through the nuts i have when i make the new lines.....if worst
> comes to worst i could use the old fitting on a new line but its
> already rounded and doesn't look good, when the rest of the engine bay
> is restored........
> still haven't made a perfect bubble flare yet either so may just stick
> with a double flare....LOL much easier
> Cheers
> Bill Robertson
>
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From vsimkins at btconnect.com Sat Feb 27 16:13:45 2010
From: vsimkins at btconnect.com (Ginny Simkins)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:13:45 -0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] OT test
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sun Feb 28 13:54:13 2010
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:54:13 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S NADA brake pressure failure switch
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MY buddy just gave me a new in the package Triumph 250 and TR6 PDWA(pressure differential warning assembly)........Looks very like my pressure failure switch except the big end is blanked off with a blanking bolt........does anyone know if it is the same as our pressure failure switch .....Since i have no fluid getting to the front calipers, i'm in the midst of rebuilding the servo slave cly and since i've got this switch off i'm wondering if i should maybe use the new TR one or rebuild mine , possibly with the guts of the TR one
BTW have found the right 7/16-20 (3/16 line) brake fitting in UK of course tho
Cheers
Bill Robertson
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From galmpton at shaw.ca Sun Feb 28 14:31:31 2010
From: galmpton at shaw.ca (galmpton)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:31:31 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S NADA brake pressure failure
switch
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Lucky you, those pdwa switches are hard to find and not rebuildable.. The function is the same, but I would ensure that the threads in the pdwa are what you are looking for, or you will have to buy adapters. My experience with the triumph ones is that they are like a box of chocklets, you never know what you are going to get.
Al Gunnarson
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Victoria BC
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Subject: [Rovernet - INTERNATIONAL] 3500S NADA brake pressure failure switch
MY buddy just gave me a new in the package Triumph 250 and TR6 PDWA(pressure differential warning assembly)........Looks very like my pressure failure switch except the big end is blanked off with a blanking bolt........does anyone know if it is the same as our pressure failure switch .....Since i have no fluid getting to the front calipers, i'm in the midst of rebuilding the servo slave cly and since i've got this switch off i'm wondering if i should maybe use the new TR one or rebuild mine , possibly with the guts of the TR one
BTW have found the right 7/16-20 (3/16 line) brake fitting in UK of course tho
Cheers
Bill Robertson
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