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From p4roverman at yahoo.com Tue May 3 00:35:02 2011 From: p4roverman at yahoo.com (Rover Man) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 22:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] rocker arm.... Message-ID: <559039.64388.qm@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> you check the pushrod make sure its straight? make sure when you have the engine running with the valve cover off the see the motion of the pushrods if there all the same, a slight turning in motion . Nelson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110502/77497744/attachment.html> From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Tue May 3 12:06:33 2011 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Broken rocker arm. Message-ID: <a6edad85e48b7f8aba83001e8547bdeb.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> I made sure the valve was not stuck and that the push rod was straight. I have not run with cover off and checked for rotation.I'll take a look and report back. Nick From trymes at rymes.net Tue May 3 14:09:46 2011 From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 15:09:46 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Fwd: P4 on South FL Craigslist Message-ID: <4DC052FA.6050100@rymes.net> http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/cto/2352814851.html Not mine. $3950. Tom From hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu Wed May 4 07:59:54 2011 From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu (Henry Manwell) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:59:54 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts needed In-Reply-To: <COL111-W52BB1FFC5CBA235E8BD7A287960@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-W195C6018CD3BBDE1EF5F1D87B40@phx.gbl>, , <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16132E1D@Server.adoptsec.local>, <COL111-W239A977CF6CADE3B00393387B70@phx.gbl>, <949F2954-1E1F-47EA-A42A-70ACD83318E4@alumni.bates.edu> <COL111-W52BB1FFC5CBA235E8BD7A287960@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <E448DDBE-E501-4813-9B05-D81930C37340@alumni.bates.edu> Hi Ben, Yes we are home now and I've looked up over the barn in search of early P4 bumperettes. The news isn't good. So far I've found one front and one rear, but both dented and with lots of surface rust. Too good to junk, but restoring them would be an act of last resort. It seems there should be more somewhere - at least the mates to them. And one of the cars we tore down wasn't very old at the time and it seems like it's bumperettes would at least have less rust, though perhaps dented. The inner braces would need to be removed to straighten one, then rewelded back in place before plating. I'd love to give these two away, but am thinking you will most likely cast about for better ones. I'll keep looking. I'm hoping to work with son, Steven, and Dirk Burroughs over sorting and disposition of all my old Rover parts. Storage is getting tenuous and I rather preside over their disposition while I'm still able than inflict it on someone else. Best regards, Hank On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > > Hi Henry > Wondering if you are home yet?? and if you have had time to look for those early P4 bumperettes?? > Regards Ben (irishrover) > > ************* > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? > then > Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > > > > >> From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu >> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:36:47 -0400 >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed >> >> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. >> Details: >> http://www.roveramerica.com/ >> ************************************** >> There is a good chance we've got some from parts cars stripped years ago; I haven't looked at them for a long time, but they've been stored high and dry. >> >> But we're in Florida for another month and won't be back in Central New York where they are for another month. >> >> Other parts '52 and '53 vintage P4, too. >> >> Hank >> >> >> On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote: >> >>> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. >>> Details: >>> http://www.roveramerica.com/ >>> ************************************** >>> >>> Thanks Den you are the first to reply, I will wait awhile yet but will keep you in reserve! >>> Cheers Ben (irishrover) >>> >>> ************* >>> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com >>> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? >>> then >>> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:33:25 +0900 >>>> From: den at aachenkennels.com >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed >>>> >>>> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. >>>> Details: >>>> http://www.roveramerica.com/ >>>> ************************************** >>>> If you get stuck Ben give me a shout as I have a pair that will need re >>>> chroming. Postage from Perth West Oz is not that costly but is an extra >>>> cost. Have a search around and as said if nothing cheaper closer to home >>>> give me a nudge. >>>> Den. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] >>>> On Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 1:52 AM >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca >>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts needed >>>> >>>> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June >>>> 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. >>>> Details: >>>> http://www.roveramerica.com/ >>>> ************************************** >>>> >>>> Hi Roverfolks >>>> I'm looking for a pair of front bumper overriders to >>>> fit an early P4 model, the type that fit on each side of the central >>>> license plate piece. Not sure when the bumperettes were changed but >>>> anything back from approx 1956 should fit. >>>> Cheers Ben (irishrover) >>>> >>>> ************* >>>> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as >>>> E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com >>>> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, >>>> Royal Navy? >>>> then >>>> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/201 >>>> 10322/4f1b042f/attachment.html> >>>> ************************************** >>>> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. Be >>>> sure to scroll down the whole page. >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> ************************************* >>>> Want to post photos? >>>> Go here: http://photobucket.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************** >>>> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. >>>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>>> ************************************* >>>> Want to post photos? >>>> Go here: http://photobucket.com/ >>>> >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110322/55160367/attachment.html> >>> ************************************** >>> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. >>> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >>> ************************************* >>> Want to post photos? >>> Go here: http://photobucket.com/ >>> >> >> >> ************************************** >> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. Be sure to scroll down the whole page. >> http://rovernet.ca/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca >> ************************************* >> Want to post photos? >> Go here: http://photobucket.com/ >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110425/cae2b102/attachment.html> > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From irishrover1 at live.com Wed May 4 08:10:05 2011 From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:10:05 -0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts needed In-Reply-To: <E448DDBE-E501-4813-9B05-D81930C37340@alumni.bates.edu> References: <COL111-W195C6018CD3BBDE1EF5F1D87B40@phx.gbl>, , , <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16132E1D@Server.adoptsec.local>, , <COL111-W239A977CF6CADE3B00393387B70@phx.gbl>, , <949F2954-1E1F-47EA-A42A-70ACD83318E4@alumni.bates.edu>, <COL111-W52BB1FFC5CBA235E8BD7A287960@phx.gbl>, <E448DDBE-E501-4813-9B05-D81930C37340@alumni.bates.edu> Message-ID: <COL111-W2964B7D06640EF8AC2113887810@phx.gbl> Hi Henry Thanks for going to all that trouble looking for me, although sometimes when we go hunting we find good parts we forgot we had!!! I'm still looking and do have a couple of leads. I guess we are in the same boat regarding Rover parts. I have P4 doors, bonnets, trunk lids, free wheel trans, engines, rear bumper,seats grills and the list goes on. I have been trying for a few years now to pass it along to someone that could use the parts, but Prince Edward Island is a bit remote. I find it very difficult to even think of scrapping everything. But not getting any younger and after recent quadruple bypass surgery I have slowed down quite a lot. Fortunately my 61 P4 100 is in good nick and only needs regular maintenance (I hope) so I continue to enjoy it. Happy Rovering Ben ************* My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:59:54 -0400 > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed > > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Hi Ben, > > Yes we are home now and I've looked up over the barn in search of early P4 bumperettes. The news isn't good. So far I've found one front and one rear, but both dented and with lots of surface rust. Too good to junk, but restoring them would be an act of last resort. It seems there should be more somewhere - at least the mates to them. And one of the cars we tore down wasn't very old at the time and it seems like it's bumperettes would at least have less rust, though perhaps dented. The inner braces would need to be removed to straighten one, then rewelded back in place before plating. > > I'd love to give these two away, but am thinking you will most likely cast about for better ones. I'll keep looking. I'm hoping to work with son, Steven, and Dirk Burroughs over sorting and disposition of all my old Rover parts. Storage is getting tenuous and I rather preside over their disposition while I'm still able than inflict it on someone else. > > Best regards, > > Hank > > > On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote: > > > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > > Details: > > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > > ************************************** > > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > > *************************************** > > > > Hi Henry > > Wondering if you are home yet?? and if you have had time to look for those early P4 bumperettes?? > > Regards Ben (irishrover) > > > > ************* > > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com > > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? > > then > > Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > > > > > > > > > >> From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu > >> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:36:47 -0400 > >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed > >> > >> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > >> Details: > >> http://www.roveramerica.com/ > >> ************************************** > >> There is a good chance we've got some from parts cars stripped years ago; I haven't looked at them for a long time, but they've been stored high and dry. > >> > >> But we're in Florida for another month and won't be back in Central New York where they are for another month. > >> > >> Other parts '52 and '53 vintage P4, too. > >> > >> Hank > >> > >> > >> On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote: > >> > >>> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > >>> Details: > >>> http://www.roveramerica.com/ > >>> ************************************** > >>> > >>> Thanks Den you are the first to reply, I will wait awhile yet but will keep you in reserve! > >>> Cheers Ben (irishrover) > >>> > >>> ************* > >>> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com > >>> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? > >>> then > >>> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:33:25 +0900 > >>>> From: den at aachenkennels.com > >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed > >>>> > >>>> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > >>>> Details: > >>>> http://www.roveramerica.com/ > >>>> ************************************** > >>>> If you get stuck Ben give me a shout as I have a pair that will need re > >>>> chroming. Postage from Perth West Oz is not that costly but is an extra > >>>> cost. Have a search around and as said if nothing cheaper closer to home > >>>> give me a nudge. > >>>> Den. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > >>>> On Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 1:52 AM > >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts needed > >>>> > >>>> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June > >>>> 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > >>>> Details: > >>>> http://www.roveramerica.com/ > >>>> ************************************** > >>>> > >>>> Hi Roverfolks > >>>> I'm looking for a pair of front bumper overriders to > >>>> fit an early P4 model, the type that fit on each side of the central > >>>> license plate piece. Not sure when the bumperettes were changed but > >>>> anything back from approx 1956 should fit. > >>>> Cheers Ben (irishrover) > >>>> > >>>> ************* > >>>> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as > >>>> E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com > >>>> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, > >>>> Royal Navy? > >>>> then > >>>> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>>> URL: > >>>> <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/201 > >>>> 10322/4f1b042f/attachment.html> > >>>> ************************************** > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110504/5d664024/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Wed May 4 12:22:48 2011 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 17:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet ] ABFM In-Reply-To: <1183440270.2332308.1304524929806.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1687059175.2337831.1304529768145.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi all, Marie and I have decided to attend the ABFM in Vancouver, B.C. I know it is rather late in the game, but it could not be avioded. There was an e-mail regarding an after the show dinner of the Rover folks with a limited number of reservations. I need to contact somone regarding attending this function. Eric sent me a link for Walter Reynolds that did not work for me. Does anyone have information about this function, help! Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110504/82a981ea/attachment.html> From peterprosser at yahoo.com Wed May 4 12:47:46 2011 From: peterprosser at yahoo.com (peter prosser) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts needed In-Reply-To: <COL111-W2964B7D06640EF8AC2113887810@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <584626.12590.qm@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Ben,I replied to this thread before but it got lost perhaps....anyways I am in Moncton and sent you a letter about 30 years ago(I still have it!) looking for Rover parts for my '59 p4 rover 90. I put the car in a barn back then?and recent events have me starting restoration finally and my jouney has been charted here at the U.K. Rover site where there is lots of info and posts by me: http://www.roverp4dg.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2727&highlight= If you follow my posts,you will see I have been working on interior and front grill so far. My p4 is one of 66 of those imported to Canada that year and I have even located the original owner. If you have p4 parts,that is of interest to me, but at the moment, it is a low budget start with hopes to accomplish a lot with extra time. The body will need some work but did take the body off the frame and had that rebuilt. Cheers...Peter Prosser --- On Wed, 5/4/11, Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com> wrote: From: Frederick Ben Rodgers <irishrover1 at live.com> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed To: "rovernet at rovernet.ca" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Received: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 10:10 AM Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. Details: http://www.roveramerica.com/ ************************************** Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 *************************************** Hi Henry ? ? ? ? ???Thanks for going to all that trouble looking for me, although sometimes when we go hunting we find good parts we forgot we had!!! I'm still looking and do have a couple of leads. I guess we are in the same boat regarding Rover parts. I have P4 doors, bonnets, trunk lids, free wheel trans, engines, rear bumper,seats grills and the list goes on. I have been trying for a few years now to pass it along to someone that could use the parts, but Prince Edward Island is a bit remote. I find it very difficult to even think of scrapping everything. But not getting any younger and after recent quadruple bypass surgery I have slowed down quite a lot. Fortunately my 61 P4 100 is in good nick and only needs regular maintenance (I hope) so I continue to enjoy it. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Happy Rovering? Ben ************* My? Books Lily & Me,???and The Royal Navy & Me,? are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs,? HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:59:54 -0400 > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed > > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Hi Ben, > > Yes we are home now and I've looked up over the barn in search of early P4 bumperettes.? The news isn't good.? So far I've found one front and one rear, but both dented and with lots of surface rust.? Too good to junk, but restoring them would be an act of last resort.? It seems there should be more somewhere - at least the mates to them.? And one of the cars we tore down wasn't very old at the time and it seems like it's bumperettes would at least have less rust, though perhaps dented.? The inner braces would need to be removed to straighten one, then rewelded back in place before plating.? > > I'd love to give these two away, but am thinking you will most likely cast about for better ones.? I'll keep looking.? I'm hoping to work with son, Steven, and Dirk Burroughs over sorting and disposition of all my old Rover parts.? Storage is getting tenuous and I rather preside over their disposition while I'm still able than inflict it on someone else.? > > Best regards, > > Hank > > > On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote: > > > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > > Details: > > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > > ************************************** > > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > > *************************************** > > > > Hi Henry > >? ? ? ? ???Wondering if you are home yet?? and if you have had time to look for those early P4 bumperettes?? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Regards Ben (irishrover) > > > > ************* > > My? Books Lily & Me,???and The Royal Navy & Me,? are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com > > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs,? HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? > > then > > Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > > > > > > > > > >> From: hdmanwell at alumni.bates.edu > >> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:36:47 -0400 > >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > >> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed > >> > >> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > >> Details: > >> http://www.roveramerica.com/ > >> ************************************** > >> There is a good chance we've got some from parts cars stripped years ago; I haven't looked at them for a long time, but they've been stored high and dry.? > >> > >> But we're in Florida for another month and won't be back in Central New York where they are for another month.? > >> > >> Other parts '52 and '53 vintage P4, too.? > >> > >> Hank > >> > >> > >> On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote: > >> > >>> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > >>> Details: > >>> http://www.roveramerica.com/ > >>> ************************************** > >>> > >>> Thanks Den you are the first to reply, I will wait awhile yet but will keep you in reserve! > >>>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Cheers Ben (irishrover) > >>> > >>> ************* > >>> My? Books Lily & Me,???and The Royal Navy & Me,? are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com > >>> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs,? HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? > >>> then > >>> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:33:25 +0900 > >>>> From: den at aachenkennels.com > >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed > >>>> > >>>> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > >>>> Details: > >>>> http://www.roveramerica.com/ > >>>> ************************************** > >>>> If you get stuck Ben give me a shout as I have a pair that will need re > >>>> chroming. Postage from Perth West Oz is not that costly but is an extra > >>>> cost. Have a search around and as said if nothing cheaper closer to home > >>>> give me a nudge. > >>>> Den. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > >>>> On Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 1:52 AM > >>>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > >>>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts needed > >>>> > >>>> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June > >>>> 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > >>>> Details: > >>>> http://www.roveramerica.com/ > >>>> ************************************** > >>>> > >>>> Hi Roverfolks > >>>>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???I'm looking for a pair of front bumper overriders to > >>>> fit an early P4 model, the type that fit on each side of the central > >>>> license plate piece. Not sure when the bumperettes were changed but > >>>> anything back from approx 1956 should fit. > >>>>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Cheers Ben (irishrover) > >>>> > >>>> ************* > >>>> My? Books Lily & Me,???and The Royal Navy & Me,? are now available as > >>>> E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com > >>>> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs,? HMS Ganges, > >>>> Royal Navy? > >>>> then > >>>> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>>> URL: > >>>> <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/201 > >>>> 10322/4f1b042f/attachment.html> > >>>> ************************************** > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list or change your settings go to this page. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110504/7ef0d4c1/attachment.html> ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110504/4415683a/attachment.html> From hhstubbs at shaw.ca Wed May 4 17:08:45 2011 From: hhstubbs at shaw.ca (Harold Stubbs) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:08:45 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet ] ABFM In-Reply-To: <1687059175.2337831.1304529768145.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1687059175.2337831.1304529768145.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1ED85CB3-AEAD-4644-9611-8CCCCDA4AA47@shaw.ca> Hope this helps. Harold. Hello everyone. For all who are attending the May 21st Van Dusen ABFM in Vancouver (and for all who are not going to the ABFM, but want to meet with us afterwards), we are having a no-host dinner at the White Spot Restaurant, 2518 West Broadway (at Larch), Vancouver. Phone 604-731-3034. We have the heated, glassed, outside patio reserved from 6:00 p.m. The reservation is for between 25 and 30 people (30 is the max. the patio is licensed for). In addition, we've asked for space to be reserved at the patio end of the parking lot (west end of the parking lot for those bringing their Rovers) so all the Rovers can be parked together. No idea at this time if the restaurant will agree. However, they have OK'd us putting up a few banners on the outside windows of the patio. It would help if you would let me know by reply email if you will be attending the dinner and how many. Maps with route from Van Dusen to the restaurant will be issued at Van Dusen, or emailed to you if you are attending dinner but not coming to the ABFM. On 4-May-11, at 10:22 AM, slatskars at comcast.net wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from > June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured > marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big > show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > > > Hi all, Marie and I have decided to attend the ABFM in Vancouver, > B.C. I know it is rather late in the game, but it could not be > avioded. There was an e-mail regarding an after the show dinner of > the Rover folks with a limited number of reservations. I need to > contact somone regarding attending this function. Eric sent me a > link for Walter Reynolds that did not work for me. Does anyone have > information about this function, help! > > > > Slats > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/ > attachments/20110504/82a981ea/attachment.html> > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed May 4 18:34:39 2011 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] ABFM In-Reply-To: <1687059175.2337831.1304529768145.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <112244.85064.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Slats, Does the link on the club web page help you get to Walter? http://www.roverclub.ca/RCCCofficers.htm If not, I'll need tolook into it. Eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 --- On Wed, 5/4/11, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote: > From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> > Subject: [Rovernet ] ABFM > To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 10:22 AM > Consider attending the largest Rover > car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, > Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the > featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover > section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > > > Hi all, Marie and I have decided to attend the ABFM in > Vancouver, B.C. I know it is rather late in the game, but it > could not be avioded. There was an e-mail regarding an after > the show dinner of the Rover folks with a limited number of > reservations. I need to contact somone regarding attending > this function. Eric sent me a link for Walter Reynolds that > did not work for me. Does anyone have information about this > function, help! > > > > Slats > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110504/82a981ea/attachment.html> > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From p6rovers at yahoo.com Wed May 4 18:35:21 2011 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts needed In-Reply-To: <1183440270.2332308.1304524929806.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <504659.86916.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Test passed. Eric "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 --- On Wed, 5/4/11, slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> wrote: > From: slatskars at comcast.net <slatskars at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts needed > To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Received: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 9:02 AM > Consider attending the largest Rover > car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, > Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the > featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover > section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > > > HMTL Test! > > > > Slats > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110504/5d664024/attachment.html> > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From magnet at roverclub.org Wed May 4 19:34:57 2011 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:34:57 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts -- P4 Overriders -- needed In-Reply-To: <COL111-W2964B7D06640EF8AC2113887810@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-W195C6018CD3BBDE1EF5F1D87B40@phx.gbl>, , , <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16132E1D@Server.adoptsec.local>, , <COL111-W239A977CF6CADE3B00393387B70@phx.gbl>, , <949F2954-1E1F-47EA-A42A-70ACD83318E4@alumni.bates.edu>, <COL111-W52BB1FFC5CBA235E8BD7A287960@phx.gbl>, <E448DDBE-E501-4813-9B05-D81930C37340@alumni.bates.edu> <COL111-W2964B7D06640EF8AC2113887810@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP60644EDD0622E54FE2ABFD91800@phx.gbl> We took apart a 1956 "60" a few years ago, I don't recall if it had over-riders, but I can check about the middle of this month and let you know. You're welcome to them if we have them. Cheers, -- Bill Daddis T.A.R.C. ******** >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Roverfolks >>>>>> I'm looking for a pair of front bumper overriders to >>>>>> fit an early P4 model, the type that fit on each side of the central >>>>>> license plate piece. Not sure when the bumperettes were changed but >>>>>> anything back from approx 1956 should fit. >>>>>> Cheers Ben (irishrover) >>>>>> From flynp170 at cablelynx.com Wed May 4 20:14:07 2011 From: flynp170 at cablelynx.com (flynp170 at cablelynx.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 21:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 Message-ID: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> I pulled the valve covers and marked all the push rods . All turn,some faster than others; but they all turn. The one that broke is one of the slower turning ones. Nick From irishrover1 at live.com Wed May 4 19:46:54 2011 From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 22:46:54 -0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts -- P4 Overriders -- needed In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP60644EDD0622E54FE2ABFD91800@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-W195C6018CD3BBDE1EF5F1D87B40@phx.gbl>, , ,,<73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16132E1D@Server.adoptsec.local>, ,,<COL111-W239A977CF6CADE3B00393387B70@phx.gbl>, , , <949F2954-1E1F-47EA-A42A-70ACD83318E4@alumni.bates.edu>, , <COL111-W52BB1FFC5CBA235E8BD7A287960@phx.gbl>, , <E448DDBE-E501-4813-9B05-D81930C37340@alumni.bates.edu>, <COL111-W2964B7D06640EF8AC2113887810@phx.gbl>, <BLU0-SMTP60644EDD0622E54FE2ABFD91800@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <col111-w17D1D36861972A5C103D2D87800@phx.gbl> Thanks Bill, so far I haven't had much luck, I will keep my fingers crossed, Its the square edge type I need not the later curvy ones. I'm not sure when they changed over but it would probably have been around 1955-56. Cheers Ben ************* My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy? then Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:34:57 -0400 > From: magnet at roverclub.org > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > CC: osmondbj at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Parts -- P4 Overriders -- needed > > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > We took apart a 1956 "60" a few years ago, I don't recall if it had > over-riders, but I can check about the middle of this month and let you > know. You're welcome to them if we have them. > > Cheers, > > -- Bill Daddis > > T.A.R.C. > > > ******** > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Roverfolks > >>>>>> I'm looking for a pair of front bumper overriders to > >>>>>> fit an early P4 model, the type that fit on each side of the central > >>>>>> license plate piece. Not sure when the bumperettes were changed but > >>>>>> anything back from approx 1956 should fit. > >>>>>> Cheers Ben (irishrover) > >>>>>> > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110504/b4c14b14/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Wed May 4 20:34:27 2011 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 20:34:27 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] Parts -- P4 Overriders -- needed In-Reply-To: <col111-w17D1D36861972A5C103D2D87800@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-W195C6018CD3BBDE1EF5F1D87B40@phx.gbl>, , , , <73D9BF72DC20B0488083C198B9B2FD16132E1D@Server.adoptsec.local>, , , <COL111-W239A977CF6CADE3B00393387B70@phx.gbl>, , , <949F2954-1E1F-47EA-A42A-70ACD83318E4@alumni.bates.edu>, , <COL111-W52BB1FFC5CBA235E8BD7A287960@phx.gbl>, , <E448DDBE-E501-4813-9B05-D81930C37340@alumni.bates.edu>, <COL111-W2964B7D06640EF8AC2113887810@phx.gbl>, <BLU0-SMTP60644EDD0622E54FE2ABFD91800@phx.gbl> <col111-w17D1D36861972A5C103D2D87800@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4DC1FEA3.7050102@att.net> Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote: > Thanks Bill, so far I haven't had much luck, I will keep my fingers crossed, Its the square edge type I need not the later curvy ones. I'm not sure when they changed over but it would probably have been around 1955-56. > Cheers Ben > Ben, I may have a pair of fronts. It will be Monday before I can check. Kent K. From kkinard at att.net Wed May 4 20:38:46 2011 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 20:38:46 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 In-Reply-To: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> References: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> Message-ID: <4DC1FFA6.5070009@att.net> Nick, I missed the thread at the start. Did you break a rocker arm? What cam are you running? You need steel rockers as the aluminium ones either break or wear through at the pushrod seat. Kent K. From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Wed May 4 23:56:51 2011 From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian & Susie Bridgeman-Sutton) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 21:56:51 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 In-Reply-To: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> References: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> Message-ID: <484C261A-3D21-4A0D-B721-84BFD87D165A@gmail.com> Nick Take a look at, and run a finger over the inside of bearing surface the rocker arms; over time these surfaces tend to collect engine debris from the oil which embeds itself in the bearing surface of the arm and this works just like a grinding paste on the shafts; if so, I rather suspect you will also have noticeable wear in the steel rocker shafts where the arms run I'd really suggest a complete new set of rockers and shafts as the only worthwhile fix - anything else will most probably be temporary Aidrian On May 4, 2011, at 6:14 PM, flynp170 at cablelynx.com wrote: > > I pulled the valve covers and marked all the push rods . All turn,some > faster than others; but they all turn. The one that broke is one of the > slower turning ones. Nick From slatskars at comcast.net Thu May 5 00:30:43 2011 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 05:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet ] ABFM In-Reply-To: <1ED85CB3-AEAD-4644-9611-8CCCCDA4AA47@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <987795200.2374085.1304573443244.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Thanks Harold, I found another e-mail address for Walter Reynolds and sent a note to him. I believe that he was co-ordinating the event. If not, I guess that I could call the White Spot directly. Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/3cc3bd3f/attachment.html> From slatskars at comcast.net Thu May 5 00:33:24 2011 From: slatskars at comcast.net (slatskars at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 05:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rovernet ] ABFM In-Reply-To: <112244.85064.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1226446729.2374127.1304573604074.JavaMail.root@sz0140a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Eric, I found an address in a copy of the Rover View that I tried. If that fails, will also send to the RCCC address. Someday, I will get my act together, I hope! Thanks, Slats -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/5ead3fef/attachment.html> From jhdolan at sover.net Thu May 5 07:57:47 2011 From: jhdolan at sover.net (j dolan) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 08:57:47 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 133, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <mailman.110.1304552124.6586.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> References: <mailman.110.1304552124.6586.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> Message-ID: <20333F89-63AD-4077-91C6-2036BEB45AB6@sover.net> Hi- This was posted on the Land Rover Daily Digest, a list for series land rovers. I wrote to David, and he said it was OK to post it here. I guess contact him directly. Hope this finds everyone well! jim in VT '60 P5 MkI, 4spd w/OD '61 LR 88" w/ OD ======================== Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:40:04 -0400 From: David Russell <Land-Rover at ournhhome.org> To: lro at land-rover.team.net Subject: [LRO] Free 6-cyl bits in central NH Message-ID: <BANLkTinh3h_xYeCXkrxoew6QRhekAmd5kA at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Block Westlake head crank cam (somewhere) All bits located in Warner, NH. I can not ship. To the best of my knowledge, all in good order except for surface rust. Feel free to e-mail me w/questions. Cheers, David ====================== From robertime at cavtel.net Thu May 5 08:32:54 2011 From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:32:54 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 In-Reply-To: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> References: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> Message-ID: <BANLkTimpyu_ETEkfOasV_dJKSQjt6Ppdyg@mail.gmail.com> Hi, You may want to disassemble the rocker arm shafts. I had 5 bent/broken pushrods turn up on one of these V-8's, partly due to a heavily-sludged motor producing something like glue -- which caused the pushrods to stick in their guides (sprayed everything with penetrating oil and then broke them loose with a piece of wood and a mallet after removing the rocker arm assemblies). The rocker arm assemblies were also full of sludge and some of the rocker arms were sticking, took quite a while to clean the oil passages properly. They're not that hard to disassemble (perhaps this was done during your rebuild project, but if not...), just be sure to keep everything in correct order for reassembly. After very carefully cleaning the heads in place with a small screwdriver and Q-tips (as well as the valley, covering the center so that stuff didn't fall further in) and replacing the damaged pushrods, the engine ran fine -- no further problems, at least in this area. The fuel system is another story. When these cars sit around for years, all sorts of things happen! Hint: Victoria British's TR-8 catalog has the best price I've seen on pushrods (2.95/ea.) -- they're made in India, seem quite acceptable. Best of luck, Robert On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:14 PM, <flynp170 at cablelynx.com> wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > I pulled the valve covers and marked all the push rods . All turn,some > faster than others; but they all turn. The one that broke is one of the > slower turning ones. Nick > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/bf7d089f/attachment.html> From trymes at rymes.net Thu May 5 08:45:34 2011 From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 09:45:34 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 133, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <20333F89-63AD-4077-91C6-2036BEB45AB6@sover.net> References: <mailman.110.1304552124.6586.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca> <20333F89-63AD-4077-91C6-2036BEB45AB6@sover.net> Message-ID: <4DC2A9FE.5000703@rymes.net> On 05/05/2011 8:57 AM, j dolan wrote: > Hi- This was posted on the Land Rover Daily Digest, a list for series > land rovers. I wrote to David, and he said it was OK to post it here. I > guess contact him directly. Hope this finds everyone well! > jim in VT <snip> > Block > Westlake head > crank > cam (somewhere) > > All bits located in Warner, NH. I can not ship. To the best of my > knowledge, all in good order except for surface rust. > Feel free to e-mail me w/questions. <snip> FYI, this is about 30 minutes from me, so if anyone needs help with it, let me know. Tom From sdibdin at gmail.com Thu May 5 09:41:44 2011 From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:41:44 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 In-Reply-To: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> References: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=o78pzHoYgupbaz86eRCXhkhohwA@mail.gmail.com> I remember many years ago repairing a friends land rover 110 V8 with exactly the same problem, a broken pushrod. Dropping the sump and retrieving the broken end and replacing the pushrod worked fine. In that car's case it had been stolen and recovered. Presumablby for a ram raid. My theory was that the engine had been over revved and it had thrown the pushrod. It may well have saved the Landy from ending it's life driven through the front of an electronics store. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:14 PM, <flynp170 at cablelynx.com> wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > I pulled the valve covers and marked all the push rods . All turn,some > faster than others; but they all turn. The one that broke is one of the > slower turning ones. Nick > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/f7ed6f6d/attachment.html> From carstuff3 at gmail.com Thu May 5 14:01:04 2011 From: carstuff3 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 15:01:04 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Voltage-Regulator Adjustment Message-ID: <BANLkTikhz5BjA8syCCs9qo_ibgnqMx6LpQ@mail.gmail.com> The dynamo on my 1963 P5 was "fried," all-but-unsalvageable according to the shop trying to rebuild it. They suggest that I replace my voltage regulator, which makes sense. I've read, both on the P5 forum and at Moss Motors' site, that voltage regulators need to be carefully cleaned and adjusted before installation, a delicate enough process that Moss sells pre-adjusted ones. My confusion stems from some people knowing nothing of this requirement, and Moss's recommendation of settings different from those recommended by Rover. Any insight appreciated, Gordon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/c568119b/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Thu May 5 14:44:49 2011 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 14:44:49 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Voltage-Regulator Adjustment In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikhz5BjA8syCCs9qo_ibgnqMx6LpQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <BANLkTikhz5BjA8syCCs9qo_ibgnqMx6LpQ@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DC2FE31.1090409@att.net> Hi Gordon, No clue about the voltage regulator but I think I have a spare dynamo unless I have already sent it to you. It is pretty unique because of the power steering setup on the back. Do you need another? Kent K. Gordon Harrower wrote: > The dynamo on my 1963 P5 was "fried," all-but-unsalvageable according to the > shop trying to rebuild it. They suggest that I replace my voltage > regulator, which makes sense. I've read, both on the P5 forum and at Moss > Motors' site, that voltage regulators need to be carefully cleaned and > adjusted before installation, a delicate enough process that Moss sells > pre-adjusted ones. My confusion stems from some people knowing nothing of > this requirement, and Moss's recommendation of settings different from those > recommended by Rover. > > Any insight appreciated, > > Gordon. > From trymes at rymes.net Thu May 5 15:11:54 2011 From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 16:11:54 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Voltage-Regulator Adjustment In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikhz5BjA8syCCs9qo_ibgnqMx6LpQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <BANLkTikhz5BjA8syCCs9qo_ibgnqMx6LpQ@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DC3048A.5060204@rymes.net> On 05/05/2011 3:01 PM, Gordon Harrower wrote: > The dynamo on my 1963 P5 was "fried," all-but-unsalvageable according to the > shop trying to rebuild it. They suggest that I replace my voltage > regulator, which makes sense. I've read, both on the P5 forum and at Moss > Motors' site, that voltage regulators need to be carefully cleaned and > adjusted before installation, a delicate enough process that Moss sells > pre-adjusted ones. My confusion stems from some people knowing nothing of > this requirement, and Moss's recommendation of settings different from those > recommended by Rover. > > Any insight appreciated, > > Gordon. Gordon, I love Moss as much as the next guy, but I think that they aren't really much of an authority when it comes to Rovers, and I am fairly certain that the regulator isn't shared with other cars Moss handles (or am I wrong about that?). Does the workshop manual cover the adjustment procedure? I'd use that method, if possible. That, or contact a particularly knowledgeable British car mechanic in your area (and who you use for service) and ask about the subject. In my area I'd ask David at Sports Car Services, and I presume you have someone down your way? Eric at Bits4Brits.net might be able to provide some expertise, and he is a great source for electrical bits that can improve your car, such as relays for the headlights and the horns. HTH, Tom From carstuff3 at gmail.com Thu May 5 16:08:02 2011 From: carstuff3 at gmail.com (Gordon Harrower) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 17:08:02 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Voltage-Regulator Adjustment In-Reply-To: <4DC2FE31.1090409@att.net> References: <BANLkTikhz5BjA8syCCs9qo_ibgnqMx6LpQ@mail.gmail.com> <4DC2FE31.1090409@att.net> Message-ID: <BANLkTik0_JtBhSGKSj=e4xxmwoWSCP3=yA@mail.gmail.com> Kent and Tom, Thanks for your messages. I think Dirk is sending me a dynamo, Kent, but I've learned that they are precious, so keep an eye on yours! Tom, according to my old Lucas catalogs, the P5 shares the VR with the AH 3000, various Triumphs. I guess I got intimidated by PhilNottingham's warnings about the precision of the necessary adjustments in the P5 forum. Pierre says he has a Lucas one ready to go, so I'll probably do that. Best, Gordon. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Hi Gordon, > No clue about the voltage regulator but I think I have a spare dynamo > unless I have already sent it to you. It is pretty unique because of the > power steering setup on the back. Do you need another? > Kent K. > > > Gordon Harrower wrote: > >> The dynamo on my 1963 P5 was "fried," all-but-unsalvageable according to >> the >> shop trying to rebuild it. They suggest that I replace my voltage >> regulator, which makes sense. I've read, both on the P5 forum and at Moss >> Motors' site, that voltage regulators need to be carefully cleaned and >> adjusted before installation, a delicate enough process that Moss sells >> pre-adjusted ones. My confusion stems from some people knowing nothing of >> this requirement, and Moss's recommendation of settings different from >> those >> recommended by Rover. >> >> Any insight appreciated, >> >> Gordon. >> >> > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/eeb4ce03/attachment.html> From gbbourque at gmail.com Thu May 5 17:08:26 2011 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:08:26 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Voltage-Regulator Adjustment In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikhz5BjA8syCCs9qo_ibgnqMx6LpQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <BANLkTikhz5BjA8syCCs9qo_ibgnqMx6LpQ@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <BANLkTinn=bGZ6XrvUD6y3jZeVu+bQfDH8g@mail.gmail.com> Hello Gordon and Rovernet, A generator generates constantly until the points in the voltage regulator open and break the charging circuit. Occasionally people open these up and clean the points in them. Like ignition points, the metal contacts fry after a while. If the points weld themselves together, the generator would charge constantly, overheat and ruin itself. Regulators are adjustable. However this is done "at the factory", at least to start off with. Without the regulator connected to a meter to see how it reacts to a generator's current passing through it, you do not know what adjustments to make. This can be done at a competent auto electrical shop. Replacement parts are available, ie. new regulator and replacement rebuildable or new old stock generator. I may even have most of them if you provide me with the Lucas part numbers off each item and the year and model of your car. If I am not mistaken, your generator has the power steering pump attached to the end opposite the drive pulley? Sincerely, Garrett Bourque Jefferson, Maine gbbourque at gmail.com for contact off Rovernet On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Gordon Harrower <carstuff3 at gmail.com> wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > The dynamo on my 1963 P5 was "fried," all-but-unsalvageable according to > the > shop trying to rebuild it. They suggest that I replace my voltage > regulator, which makes sense. I've read, both on the P5 forum and at Moss > Motors' site, that voltage regulators need to be carefully cleaned and > adjusted before installation, a delicate enough process that Moss sells > pre-adjusted ones. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/b573d684/attachment.html> From vmitps at netspace.net.au Thu May 5 17:13:59 2011 From: vmitps at netspace.net.au (Netspace) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 08:13:59 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 Voltage-Regulator Adjustment In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinn=bGZ6XrvUD6y3jZeVu+bQfDH8g@mail.gmail.com> References: <BANLkTikhz5BjA8syCCs9qo_ibgnqMx6LpQ@mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTinn=bGZ6XrvUD6y3jZeVu+bQfDH8g@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <DDAE72EF54DE43809EE9D6583A159080@Vista> There are 3 sets of points in a Lucas RB340. Cutin, Voltage, Current. Generally the adjustment that matters most is the Voltage. If it is low the battery does not charge fully. If it is too high the battery boils dry. PVS From R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com Thu May 5 23:05:13 2011 From: R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com (Robert Thornton) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:35:13 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimpyu_ETEkfOasV_dJKSQjt6Ppdyg@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> <BANLkTimpyu_ETEkfOasV_dJKSQjt6Ppdyg@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F104398B8B4@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> The alloy rocker arms are not as strong as the steel ones fitted to the P6B. I broke one on my old 3.5 SD1 - mileage/fatigue related more than anything. Replaced it with one off a Discovery and it went for years without further trouble. Rob -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of ROBERT HEIMERL Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2011 11:03 PM To: Rovernet Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. Details: http://www.roveramerica.com/ ************************************** Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 *************************************** Hi, You may want to disassemble the rocker arm shafts. I had 5 bent/broken pushrods turn up on one of these V-8's, partly due to a heavily-sludged motor producing something like glue -- which caused the pushrods to stick in their guides (sprayed everything with penetrating oil and then broke them loose with a piece of wood and a mallet after removing the rocker arm assemblies). The rocker arm assemblies were also full of sludge and some of the rocker arms were sticking, took quite a while to clean the oil passages properly. They're not that hard to disassemble (perhaps this was done during your rebuild project, but if not...), just be sure to keep everything in correct order for reassembly. After very carefully cleaning the heads in place with a small screwdriver and Q-tips (as well as the valley, covering the center so that stuff didn't fall further in) and replacing the damaged pushrods, the engine ran fine -- no further problems, at least in this area. The fuel system is another story. When these cars sit around for years, all sorts of things happen! Hint: Victoria British's TR-8 catalog has the best price I've seen on pushrods (2.95/ea.) -- they're made in India, seem quite acceptable. Best of luck, Robert On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:14 PM, <flynp170 at cablelynx.com> wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > I pulled the valve covers and marked all the push rods . All turn,some > faster than others; but they all turn. The one that broke is one of the > slower turning ones. Nick > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/bf7d089f/attachment.html> ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From james.moison at gmail.com Fri May 6 00:00:45 2011 From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 23:00:45 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 In-Reply-To: <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F104398B8B4@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> References: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net> <BANLkTimpyu_ETEkfOasV_dJKSQjt6Ppdyg@mail.gmail.com> <D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F104398B8B4@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=dCsd8qtRhNd4kLMoJ3UPuDm=oaA@mail.gmail.com> I have a 67 2000TC in various states of repair. Perfect body. Want to put in someones hands. Garaged clean car, not a corn field car. Call Jim 208-407-7692 james.moison at gmail.com Thanks. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Robert Thornton < R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com> wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > The alloy rocker arms are not as strong as the steel ones fitted to the > P6B. I broke one on my old 3.5 SD1 - mileage/fatigue related more than > anything. Replaced it with one off a Discovery and it went for years without > further trouble. > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On Behalf Of ROBERT HEIMERL > Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2011 11:03 PM > To: Rovernet > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 > > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Hi, > > You may want to disassemble the rocker arm shafts. I had 5 bent/broken > pushrods turn up on one of these V-8's, partly due to a heavily-sludged > motor producing something like glue -- which caused the pushrods to stick > in > their guides (sprayed everything with penetrating oil and then broke them > loose with a piece of wood and a mallet after removing the rocker arm > assemblies). The rocker arm assemblies were also full of sludge and some > of > the rocker arms were sticking, took quite a while to clean the oil passages > properly. They're not that hard to disassemble (perhaps this was done > during your rebuild project, but if not...), just be sure to keep > everything > in correct order for reassembly. After very carefully cleaning the heads > in > place with a small screwdriver and Q-tips (as well as the valley, covering > the center so that stuff didn't fall further in) and replacing the damaged > pushrods, the engine ran fine -- no further problems, at least in this > area. > > The fuel system is another story. When these cars sit around for years, > all > sorts of things happen! > > Hint: Victoria British's TR-8 catalog has the best price I've seen on > pushrods (2.95/ea.) -- they're made in India, seem quite acceptable. > > Best of luck, > > Robert > > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:14 PM, <flynp170 at cablelynx.com> wrote: > > > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June > 2 > > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > > Details: > > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > > ************************************** > > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info > at: > > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > > *************************************** > > I pulled the valve covers and marked all the push rods . All turn,some > > faster than others; but they all turn. The one that broke is one of the > > slower turning ones. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/48b852cb/attachment.html> From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Fri May 6 04:23:40 2011 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:23:40 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Information about Bmw scrapeyard in GB In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=dCsd8qtRhNd4kLMoJ3UPuDm=oaA@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e5ae199fba52eea4d3dbad6a67ee475.squirrel@mailfe7.america.net><BANLkTimpyu_ETEkfOasV_dJKSQjt6Ppdyg@mail.gmail.com><D6E81B715DDA724499CC686D4F52C93F104398B8B4@ACCMX01.adelaide.sa.gov.au> <BANLkTi=dCsd8qtRhNd4kLMoJ3UPuDm=oaA@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596A9E191@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Dear friends, please, does someone know this scrapeyard? RETRO BMW SPARES Darren Fawcett 18 Newtown Beaminster Dorset DT83EW United Kingdom Is someone of you located in the neighbourhood? I'd like to buy this seat, http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260601579928&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNAFP:IT:1123 but the do not ship to Italy. Any ideas? Any suggestion will be appreciated. Best regards and hear you soon, GR. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di james moison Inviato: venerd? 6 maggio 2011 7.01 A: Rovernet Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. Details: http://www.roveramerica.com/ ************************************** Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 *************************************** I have a 67 2000TC in various states of repair. Perfect body. Want to put in someones hands. Garaged clean car, not a corn field car. Call Jim 208-407-7692 james.moison at gmail.com Thanks. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Robert Thornton < R.Thornton at adelaidecitycouncil.com> wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > The alloy rocker arms are not as strong as the steel ones fitted to the > P6B. I broke one on my old 3.5 SD1 - mileage/fatigue related more than > anything. Replaced it with one off a Discovery and it went for years without > further trouble. > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On Behalf Of ROBERT HEIMERL > Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2011 11:03 PM > To: Rovernet > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Broken Rocker Arm SD1 V8 > > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Hi, > > You may want to disassemble the rocker arm shafts. I had 5 bent/broken > pushrods turn up on one of these V-8's, partly due to a heavily-sludged > motor producing something like glue -- which caused the pushrods to stick > in > their guides (sprayed everything with penetrating oil and then broke them > loose with a piece of wood and a mallet after removing the rocker arm > assemblies). The rocker arm assemblies were also full of sludge and some > of > the rocker arms were sticking, took quite a while to clean the oil passages > properly. They're not that hard to disassemble (perhaps this was done > during your rebuild project, but if not...), just be sure to keep > everything > in correct order for reassembly. After very carefully cleaning the heads > in > place with a small screwdriver and Q-tips (as well as the valley, covering > the center so that stuff didn't fall further in) and replacing the damaged > pushrods, the engine ran fine -- no further problems, at least in this > area. > > The fuel system is another story. When these cars sit around for years, > all > sorts of things happen! > > Hint: Victoria British's TR-8 catalog has the best price I've seen on > pushrods (2.95/ea.) -- they're made in India, seem quite acceptable. > > Best of luck, > > Robert > > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:14 PM, <flynp170 at cablelynx.com> wrote: > > > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June > 2 > > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > > Details: > > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > > ************************************** > > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info > at: > > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > > *************************************** > > I pulled the valve covers and marked all the push rods . All turn,some > > faster than others; but they all turn. The one that broke is one of the > > slower turning ones. 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URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110505/48b852cb/attachment.html> ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From aboasberg at webtv.net Fri May 6 07:19:32 2011 From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 12:19:32 GMT Subject: [Rovernet ] Electric Motor for 3500S Window Requested Message-ID: <BLU160-ds12744C8CA8E923AF601540B5830@phx.gbl> The right front passenger powered window on my 1970 Rover 3500S stopped working. They checked the wiring and the switch and concluded that it needs a new motor. Does anyone have this motor? Thanks. Albert From kkinard at att.net Fri May 6 09:02:03 2011 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 09:02:03 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] Electric Motor for 3500S Window Requested In-Reply-To: <BLU160-ds12744C8CA8E923AF601540B5830@phx.gbl> References: <BLU160-ds12744C8CA8E923AF601540B5830@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4DC3FF5B.80002@att.net> Yes, Al. I have some. Email me off list. Kent K. Albert Boasberg wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > The right front passenger powered window on my 1970 Rover 3500S stopped working. > > They checked the wiring and the switch and concluded that it needs a new motor. > > Does anyone have this motor? > > Thanks. > > Albert > > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > From jaguru at bellsouth.net Fri May 6 10:01:40 2011 From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (jaguru at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:01:40 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Electric Motor for 3500S Window Requested In-Reply-To: <4DC3FF5B.80002@att.net> References: <BLU160-ds12744C8CA8E923AF601540B5830@phx.gbl> <4DC3FF5B.80002@att.net> Message-ID: <8063F50962EF44CAA53DCDD98FE2D6BF@JamesDeanPC1> Even the used ones it is best to rebuild. These square motorswere used in 1969-73 Jaguar XJ6, and GM cars of the era. Later all changed to round motors. Any window motor rebuilder can do them; but usually they need your core. They usually give a one year guarantee. LF and RR are the same; believed marked L. RF and LR are the same, believed marked R. James Dean, Ft. Lauderdale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at att.net> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Electric Motor for 3500S Window Requested > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info > at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Yes, Al. I have some. Email me off list. > Kent K. > > Albert Boasberg wrote: >> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June >> 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. >> Details: >> http://www.roveramerica.com/ >> ************************************** >> Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. >> Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info >> at: >> http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 >> *************************************** >> The right front passenger powered window on my 1970 Rover 3500S stopped >> working. >> >> They checked the wiring and the switch and concluded that it needs a new >> motor. >> >> Does anyone have this motor? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Albert >> >> >> >> ************************************** >> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From smokeandsteam at gmail.com Fri May 6 14:17:37 2011 From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:17:37 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet ] Electric Motor for 3500S Window Requested In-Reply-To: <4DC3FF5B.80002@att.net> References: <BLU160-ds12744C8CA8E923AF601540B5830@phx.gbl> <4DC3FF5B.80002@att.net> Message-ID: <BANLkTimrwkNJEwv+QR5OLu9Kukp1ZsOC_w@mail.gmail.com> Also avaiable new as aftermarket replacement from National Parts Depot along with things such as switches made to the oriiginal GM / AC Delco patterns www.nationalpartsdepot.com I think you will find them in the Chevelle section from memory Aidrian On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Yes, Al. I have some. Email me off list. > Kent K. > > Albert Boasberg wrote: >> >> Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 >> to 5 near Boston, Mass. >> Details: >> http://www.roveramerica.com/ >> ************************************** >> Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. >> Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: >> http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 >> *************************************** >> The right front passenger powered window on my 1970 Rover 3500S stopped >> working. >> >> They checked the wiring and the switch and concluded that it needs a new >> motor. >> >> Does anyone have this motor? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Albert >> >> >> >> ************************************** >> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> >> > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From trymes at rymes.net Sun May 8 09:15:49 2011 From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 10:15:49 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Dished Washer for Oil Filter Canister Message-ID: <E782936C-1FAA-466D-BE3C-8055D7D1EFB1@rymes.net> Does anyone have a spare Dished washer for the oil filter canister on my P5? It seems that mine has gone missing... Tom From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat May 14 14:31:51 2011 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 12:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 For Sale Western Canada Message-ID: <930060.71351.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We have an new entry for an SD1 for sale in Victoria on Vancouver Island in Canada. http://www.roverclub.ca/roversforsale.htm It started as a restoration project but the owner got ill and the job had to stop. It looks like a good start for an SD1 restoration or a good source of parts. The engine has been converted to a North American car set-up. More information and pictures from the above web page. Eric List Manager Webmaster, RCCC "Always look on the bright side of life."... Life of Brian, 1979; "I'm not dead yet!" ..... Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975 From aboasberg at webtv.net Tue May 17 08:39:46 2011 From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 13:39:46 GMT Subject: [Rovernet ] 1970 Rover 3500S Message-ID: <BLU160-ds9A6EB4FF97E9AC4E1956CB58C0@phx.gbl> Dear Garrett: My accelerator pedal is broken and wonder whether you had a replacement for it. Thanks and with best regards. Albert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110517/339634e6/attachment.html> From roverman2 at verizon.net Wed May 18 15:44:09 2011 From: roverman2 at verizon.net (Dermot Harvey) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:44:09 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Accelerator Pedal Message-ID: <DD78911D-253D-456F-8D18-FB027A407DC6@verizon.net> Hi, I think I have a new one if Garrett doesn't. Please contact me directly at roverman2 at verizon.net Dermot Harvey Spectral Kinetics From gbbourque at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:22:22 2011 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:22:22 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Accelerator Pedal In-Reply-To: <DD78911D-253D-456F-8D18-FB027A407DC6@verizon.net> References: <DD78911D-253D-456F-8D18-FB027A407DC6@verizon.net> Message-ID: <BANLkTikyH_MWS7n2v+L0RjCOJY-0XWZ6MQ@mail.gmail.com> Helo Albert, I do have a 3500s gas pedal and will send it out to you in the morning. Thanks for the parts request. Garrett On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dermot Harvey <roverman2 at verizon.net>wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Hi, > > I think I have a new one if Garrett doesn't. > Please contact me directly at roverman2 at verizon.net > > Dermot Harvey > Spectral Kinetics > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From aboasberg at webtv.net Wed May 18 21:58:19 2011 From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 02:58:19 GMT Subject: [Rovernet ] Kent's Generosity Message-ID: <BLU160-ds21798BB1DBB6E655CF613AB58E0@phx.gbl> I would like to publicly thank Kent Kinard here for furnishing me a replacement motor for an electric window on my Rover 3500S on very short notice. I had told him that the need for urgency was because the car was entered in the Sonoma-Marin (California) Concours d'Elegance a few days hence and the judges always request entrants to raise and lower their windows, (inter alia.) He hastened to find two replacement motors for me from his legendary stock of spares and sent it via UPS. I got it in time to be installed for the show. (Predictably, the judges this year did not ask for the windows to be raised or lowered). Kent also recently sent me a bumper overrider pad at my request when mine was damaged in a rear-end collision. He is a splendid fellow and a shining exemplar of what it means to be a true member of our Club. Albert From aboasberg at webtv.net Wed May 18 22:04:59 2011 From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 03:04:59 GMT Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Accelerator Pedal Message-ID: <BLU160-ds1668F3E8445A2B23955985B58E0@phx.gbl> Dear Garrett: My mechanic just today was able to repair my accelerator pedal and thus I no longer need a replacement. Thanks anyway for your kind offer of assistance. Best regards, Albert From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu May 19 05:10:35 2011 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:10:35 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Kent's Generosity In-Reply-To: <BLU160-ds21798BB1DBB6E655CF613AB58E0@phx.gbl> References: <BLU160-ds21798BB1DBB6E655CF613AB58E0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596B0B8A5@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Dear friends, I agree and I can say the same. He's a good fellow and a loyal member of the Rovernet! Best regards, GR. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Albert Boasberg Inviato: gioved? 19 maggio 2011 4.58 A: Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet ] Kent's Generosity Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. Details: http://www.roveramerica.com/ ************************************** Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 *************************************** I would like to publicly thank Kent Kinard here for furnishing me a replacement motor for an electric window on my Rover 3500S on very short notice. I had told him that the need for urgency was because the car was entered in the Sonoma-Marin (California) Concours d'Elegance a few days hence and the judges always request entrants to raise and lower their windows, (inter alia.) He hastened to find two replacement motors for me from his legendary stock of spares and sent it via UPS. I got it in time to be installed for the show. (Predictably, the judges this year did not ask for the windows to be raised or lowered). Kent also recently sent me a bumper overrider pad at my request when mine was damaged in a rear-end collision. He is a splendid fellow and a shining exemplar of what it means to be a true member of our Club. Albert ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gbbourque at gmail.com Thu May 19 08:59:04 2011 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:59:04 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Accelerator Pedal In-Reply-To: <BLU160-ds1668F3E8445A2B23955985B58E0@phx.gbl> References: <BLU160-ds1668F3E8445A2B23955985B58E0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=c5Sb2A-9+a1KEOEhby6QmwA2Ekw@mail.gmail.com> Hello Albert, OK sounds good. I am glad that you got your gas pedal together again. The plastic area that bends, I hesitate to call it a hinge, breaks on these often. A real hinge can be added easily. Enjoy your car! Garrett On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Albert Boasberg <aboasberg at webtv.net>wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Dear Garrett: > > My mechanic just today was able to repair my accelerator pedal and thus I > no longer need a replacement. > > Thanks anyway for your kind offer of assistance. > > Best regards, > Albert > > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110519/3953561e/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Thu May 19 10:20:57 2011 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:20:57 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Kent's Generosity In-Reply-To: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596B0B8A5@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> References: <BLU160-ds21798BB1DBB6E655CF613AB58E0@phx.gbl> <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596B0B8A5@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <4DD53559.9010606@att.net> Albert and Gianluca, thank you both for your kind words. I must hasten to add that I, myself, would be dead in the water on several projects were it not for Dirk, Steve, Garrett, Ruth, Dermot, Pierre and the rest of you. You are all a joy to behold. We are a team that works remarkably well and we in the Rovernet are indeed friends. For those looking for parts, particularly P6 items, you will almost always get faster and more dependable service from those who make their living from sales and service and I encourage you to support them. They are real heroes in my book. I am not in the parts business, I just happen to have this stuff. My parts are not inventoried and availability depends more on my remembering where I saw something last. Until I retire, I am only at the shop one or two days per week. The way the economy is, I may never get to retire. I'll see many of you at Fitchburg in a couple of weeks. Roverly, Kent K. From gbbourque at gmail.com Thu May 19 11:08:15 2011 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:08:15 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Kent's Generosity In-Reply-To: <4DD53559.9010606@att.net> References: <BLU160-ds21798BB1DBB6E655CF613AB58E0@phx.gbl> <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596B0B8A5@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> <4DD53559.9010606@att.net> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=PxW3L2rxoarj0GU4-G7N1Yqa_6g@mail.gmail.com> Hello Kent and Rovernet, Thank you for all the kind words! I plan to travel to the Rover Event. As with years in the past, it will be a fun weekend to talk cars and meet new and old friends! Here is my controversial ccomment for the day!Congratulations to all for having a car together enough to make the trip! Garrett Bourque On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 > to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. > Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Albert and Gianluca, thank you both for your kind words. I must hasten to > add that I, myself, would be dead in the water on several projects were it > not for Dirk, Steve, Garrett, Ruth, Dermot, Pierre and the rest of you. You > are all a joy to behold. We are a team that works remarkably well and we in > the Rovernet are indeed friends. > > For those looking for parts, particularly P6 items, you will almost always > get faster and more dependable service from those who make their living from > sales and service and I encourage you to support them. They are real heroes > in my book. I am not in the parts business, I just happen to have this > stuff. My parts are not inventoried and availability depends more on my > remembering where I saw something last. Until I retire, I am only at the > shop one or two days per week. The way the economy is, I may never get to > retire. > > I'll see many of you at Fitchburg in a couple of weeks. > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rovernet.ca/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20110519/4ede469c/attachment.html> From aboasberg at webtv.net Fri May 20 08:07:07 2011 From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:07:07 GMT Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Accelerator Pedal Message-ID: <BLU160-ds869D67584700A2D4E8EFCB5710@phx.gbl> Dear Garrett: That's exactly what the mechanic did. He attached one end of an ordinary hinge to the base of the pedal and screwed in the other end into the floorboard. Voila! Case closed. Best regards, Albert From trymes at rymes.net Fri May 20 13:23:31 2011 From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:23:31 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3-Litre Wheel cylinders Message-ID: <4DD6B1A3.4040906@rymes.net> Howdy, folks. Before I order some up from England, does anyone have spare rear wheel cylinders for a P5 Mk III that they're willing to part with? Many thanks, Tom From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Fri May 20 15:34:56 2011 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:34:56 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3-Litre Wheel cylinders In-Reply-To: <4DD6B1A3.4040906@rymes.net> References: <4DD6B1A3.4040906@rymes.net> Message-ID: <4DD6D070.8010100@alum.swarthmore.edu> Hi Tom, Ordinarily I would recommend getting the cylinders sleeved in brass or stainless and rebuilding them with a seal kit. Assuming you may be trying to replace your wheel cylinders before RA11, you won't have enough lead time to get them sleeved. If that's the case, then contact me off-line -- I may be able to help, especially if you plan to drop by Dirk's shop in Fitchburg this weekend as I heard you might be... Steve Manwell Melrose, MA On 5/20/2011 2:23 PM, Tom Rymes wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from > June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured > marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. > More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > Howdy, folks. Before I order some up from England, does anyone have > spare rear wheel cylinders for a P5 Mk III that they're willing to > part with? > > Many thanks, > > Tom > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > From trymes at rymes.net Fri May 20 15:47:10 2011 From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:47:10 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3-Litre Wheel cylinders In-Reply-To: <4DD6D070.8010100@alum.swarthmore.edu> References: <4DD6B1A3.4040906@rymes.net> <4DD6D070.8010100@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <4DD6D34E.1080705@rymes.net> On 05/20/2011 4:34 PM, S Manwell wrote: > Ordinarily I would recommend getting the cylinders sleeved in brass or > stainless and rebuilding them with a seal kit. Assuming you may be > trying to replace your wheel cylinders before RA11, you won't have > enough lead time to get them sleeved. Well, ordinarily, they would be in a box on their way to White Post, but I am 3,152 miles away from my car right now, so removing them would prove a bit challenging, shall we say! ;-) Both cylinders have the upper piston seized, and while I might be able to break them free, hone, and kit them, there's a good chance at least one would leak. I'd love to have the car back for RA, but it doesn't look good right now. > If that's the case, then contact me off-line -- I may be able to help, > especially if you plan to drop by Dirk's shop in Fitchburg this weekend > as I heard you might be... Well, I do plan on making it down at some point, but I'm not quite certain when I might be able to make that happen. Is there a specific schedule this weekend? Perhaps an excuse to get the MG out? Tom From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Fri May 20 16:28:11 2011 From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:28:11 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3-Litre Wheel cylinders In-Reply-To: <4DD6D34E.1080705@rymes.net> References: <4DD6B1A3.4040906@rymes.net> <4DD6D070.8010100@alum.swarthmore.edu> <4DD6D34E.1080705@rymes.net> Message-ID: <4DD6DCEB.9090409@alum.swarthmore.edu> I'll be at Dirk's tomorrow and Dirk and others will be there both days -- working on cars and generally getting ready for RA11. We should be able to find some cylinder cores to send out for sleeving or some other solution. --Steve On 5/20/2011 4:47 PM, Tom Rymes wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from > June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ************************************** > Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured > marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. > More info at: > http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 > *************************************** > On 05/20/2011 4:34 PM, S Manwell wrote: >> Ordinarily I would recommend getting the cylinders sleeved in brass or >> stainless and rebuilding them with a seal kit. Assuming you may be >> trying to replace your wheel cylinders before RA11, you won't have >> enough lead time to get them sleeved. > > Well, ordinarily, they would be in a box on their way to White Post, > but I am 3,152 miles away from my car right now, so removing them > would prove a bit challenging, shall we say! ;-) > > Both cylinders have the upper piston seized, and while I might be able > to break them free, hone, and kit them, there's a good chance at least > one would leak. > > I'd love to have the car back for RA, but it doesn't look good right now. > >> If that's the case, then contact me off-line -- I may be able to help, >> especially if you plan to drop by Dirk's shop in Fitchburg this weekend >> as I heard you might be... > > Well, I do plan on making it down at some point, but I'm not quite > certain when I might be able to make that happen. Is there a specific > schedule this weekend? Perhaps an excuse to get the MG out? > > Tom > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Fri May 20 18:22:48 2011 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3-Litre Wheel cylinders Message-ID: <228364.78348.qm@web180502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Tom, is this for Maric's burgundy car? Roland On Fri May 20th, 2011 11:23 AM PDT Tom Rymes wrote: >Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. >Details: >http://www.roveramerica.com/ >************************************** >Vancouver, BC. Van Dusen ABFM. Sat. May 21. ROVER is the featured marque. Drive or bring your Rover to the Rover section for a big show. More info at: >http://www.westerndriver.com/?page_id=96 >*************************************** >Howdy, folks. Before I order some up from England, does anyone have spare rear wheel cylinders for a P5 Mk III that they're willing to part with? > >Many thanks, > >Tom > >************************************** >Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: >http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From trymes at rymes.net Fri May 20 18:31:07 2011 From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:31:07 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3-Litre Wheel cylinders In-Reply-To: <4DD6DCEB.9090409@alum.swarthmore.edu> References: <4DD6B1A3.4040906@rymes.net> <4DD6D070.8010100@alum.swarthmore.edu> <4DD6D34E.1080705@rymes.net> <4DD6DCEB.9090409@alum.swarthmore.edu> Message-ID: <94A46181-FA23-477F-AB7E-66FE896932F5@rymes.net> On May 20, 2011, at 5:28 PM, S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu> wrote: > I'll be at Dirk's tomorrow and Dirk and others will be there both days -- working on cars and generally getting ready for RA11. Well, I'd love to meet y'all, and I may be in the area retrieving a table, of all things, so I'll see what I can pull off. Dirk, can you send me an address in a private e-mail? Or is it in the RA11 link? > We should be able to find some cylinder cores to send out for sleeving or some other solution. That would be excellent. Perhaps I can figure out the mystery of the oil filter, too... Tom From trymes at rymes.net Fri May 20 18:34:15 2011 From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:34:15 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3-Litre Wheel cylinders In-Reply-To: <228364.78348.qm@web180502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <228364.78348.qm@web180502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40C423BD-E657-427E-8768-F8AA3902439F@rymes.net> On May 20, 2011, at 7:22 PM, roland <veetwinrider at yahoo.com> wrote: > Tom, is this for Maric's burgundy car? Roland Yup. My Burgundy car now! Time will tell if I can keep itfrom bankrupting me.... From p6rovers at yahoo.com Sat May 21 18:34:28 2011 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 16:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Admin Test OT Please ignore Message-ID: <340699.98203.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Test From defender110 at ozemail.com.au Sat May 21 23:54:18 2011 From: defender110 at ozemail.com.au (David Read) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 14:24:18 +0930 Subject: [Rovernet ] Admin Test OT Please ignore In-Reply-To: <340699.98203.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <340699.98203.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DD896FA.5050704@ozemail.com.au> Received loud and clear here Eric Cheers Dave South Oz On 5/22/2011 9:04 AM, Eric Russell wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > Test From RoverP6 at gmx.de Mon May 23 08:25:51 2011 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 15:25:51 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] NZ P6 colour References: <20110429.074808.1822.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <3A2EFF8F7F934AC5A5D0D9326DE8FD87@rw> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/5738621362/ Saffron ? Rudiger www.RoverP6.info From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Mon May 23 08:41:02 2011 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 15:41:02 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: NZ P6 colour In-Reply-To: <3A2EFF8F7F934AC5A5D0D9326DE8FD87@rw> References: <20110429.074808.1822.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> <3A2EFF8F7F934AC5A5D0D9326DE8FD87@rw> Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596B45926@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Dear Rudiger, I think you' re right, it looks safroon. I' ve been in NZ in oct - nov 2001, seen one or two, but in my opinion this colour is very rare. During my travel I visited the town of Cromwell, where I met an old man who had a red 3500 S, repainted, who had done his military service during WWII and made the campaign of Italy till Udine, my hometown, and then went on in Austria till Spittal, which is more or less 150 km far from my home. On the other side of the pond another P6 fan who had visited my hometown during the war! Best regards, and hear you soon, GR. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de Inviato: luned? 23 maggio 2011 15.26 A: Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet ] NZ P6 colour Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. Details: http://www.roveramerica.com/ ******************************* http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/5738621362/ Saffron ? Rudiger www.RoverP6.info ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gillis at ecc.edu Mon May 23 09:05:39 2011 From: gillis at ecc.edu (Gillis, Greg) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 14:05:39 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet ] History of this car? Message-ID: <67784E99A25E234AA8C7EC9F7545336846025973@ECCEX1.ecc.edu> I tried posting the pictures but they were too big. I uploaded them to the site below. I would appreciate any information on this car. Thanks. Greg gillis at ecc.edu http://www.flickr.com/photos/greggg117/ ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. From kkinard at att.net Mon May 23 10:14:21 2011 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:14:21 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] History of this car? In-Reply-To: <67784E99A25E234AA8C7EC9F7545336846025973@ECCEX1.ecc.edu> References: <67784E99A25E234AA8C7EC9F7545336846025973@ECCEX1.ecc.edu> Message-ID: <4DDA79CD.6000609@att.net> Gillis, Greg wrote: > Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. > Details: > http://www.roveramerica.com/ > ******************************* > I tried posting the pictures but they were too big. I uploaded them to the site below. I would appreciate any information on this car. > > Thanks. > > Greg > gillis at ecc.edu > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/greggg117/ > > Hi Greg, Well it is a P3 four light (also called a Sports Saloon), so not a '47. Where is the car located? roverly, Kent K. From p6rovers at yahoo.com Mon May 23 13:56:46 2011 From: p6rovers at yahoo.com (Eric Russell) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] History of this car? In-Reply-To: <67784E99A25E234AA8C7EC9F7545336846025973@ECCEX1.ecc.edu> Message-ID: <782324.44030.qm@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I found a link to these photos on the Classic Forum in the UK. This car looks like a Rover P3 Six-Light modified: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/4580542024/in/photostream/ Eric From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon May 23 16:55:21 2011 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 07:55:21 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet ] NZ P6 colour In-Reply-To: <3A2EFF8F7F934AC5A5D0D9326DE8FD87@rw> References: <20110429.074808.1822.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> <3A2EFF8F7F934AC5A5D0D9326DE8FD87@rw> Message-ID: <bhllt6ddi5qifk61ss00dqprodu8qsvl97@4ax.com> On Mon, 23 May 2011 15:25:51 +0200, you wrote: >Saffron ? Will let you know, I will ask the owner today. BTW as you have already mentioned the photos, the RCCA members here in Tasmania took part in a display to recognise National Motoring Heritage Day: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/sets/72157626760708130/with/5738621362/ Cheers, Peter H From peterhut at activ8.net.au Mon May 23 17:59:46 2011 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 08:59:46 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet ] NZ P6 colour In-Reply-To: <3A2EFF8F7F934AC5A5D0D9326DE8FD87@rw> References: <20110429.074808.1822.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> <3A2EFF8F7F934AC5A5D0D9326DE8FD87@rw> Message-ID: <jkplt6l30nd5piafsaisr99i3l38b5s0cf@4ax.com> On Mon, 23 May 2011 15:25:51 +0200, you wrote: >http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/5738621362/ > >Saffron ? Yes, Rudiger, you are right, it is NZ Produced P6 colour Saffron. Cheers, Peter H From RoverP6 at gmx.de Wed May 25 11:18:31 2011 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:18:31 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] YouTube - Rover V8 first startup in 13 years Message-ID: <651896A53B434FB89FD4E90093BB8135@rw> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-20iQ1Wh6o Rudiger www.RoverP6.info From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed May 25 11:43:08 2011 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:43:08 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: YouTube - Rover V8 first startup in 13 years In-Reply-To: <651896A53B434FB89FD4E90093BB8135@rw> References: <651896A53B434FB89FD4E90093BB8135@rw> Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596B461BB@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Beautiful! Ciao, GR. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de Inviato: mercoled? 25 maggio 2011 18.19 A: Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet ] YouTube - Rover V8 first startup in 13 years Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. Details: http://www.roveramerica.com/ ******************************* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-20iQ1Wh6o Rudiger www.RoverP6.info ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed May 25 11:52:47 2011 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:52:47 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: R: YouTube - Rover V8 first startup in 13 years In-Reply-To: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596B461BB@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> References: <651896A53B434FB89FD4E90093BB8135@rw> <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596B461BB@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596B461BD@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Another question. Does rover v8 saloon, normal version, have oil radiator? Ciao, GR. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Inviato: mercoled? 25 maggio 2011 18.43 A: rovernet at rovernet.ca Oggetto: [Rovernet ] R: YouTube - Rover V8 first startup in 13 years Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. Details: http://www.roveramerica.com/ ******************************* Beautiful! Ciao, GR. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di RoverP6 at gmx.de Inviato: mercoled? 25 maggio 2011 18.19 A: Rovernet Oggetto: [Rovernet ] YouTube - Rover V8 first startup in 13 years Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. Details: http://www.roveramerica.com/ ******************************* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-20iQ1Wh6o Rudiger www.RoverP6.info ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Wed May 25 19:57:49 2011 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] YouTube - Rover V8 first startup in 13 years Message-ID: <327959.83408.qm@web180510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I like how in the second part, while cranking the engine on the pallet, he ended up putting a shield in front of the fuel bottle after all the backfiring and flames! LOL! roland "You only have too much fuel when your on fire!" anonymous. --- On Wed, 5/25/11, RoverP6 at gmx.de <RoverP6 at gmx.de> wrote: From: RoverP6 at gmx.de <RoverP6 at gmx.de> Subject: [Rovernet ] YouTube - Rover V8 first startup in 13 years To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 9:18 AM Consider attending the largest Rover car show in North America from June 2 to 5 near Boston, Mass. Details: http://www.roveramerica.com/ ******************************* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-20iQ1Wh6o Rudiger www.RoverP6.info ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From trymes at rymes.net Tue May 31 13:47:20 2011 From: trymes at rymes.net (Tom Rymes) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:47:20 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Anyone looking for a P5? Message-ID: <4DE537B8.9060909@rymes.net> Found this on Craigslist: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2404372730.html No connection to the seller. Tom