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From pj.info at bluewin.ch Sun Apr 1 07:47:58 2012
From: pj.info at bluewin.ch (PJ Info)
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:47:58 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a winter
"hibernation"?
Message-ID: <4F784E7E.7070204@bluewin.ch>
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car
was located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped
below some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
From calendarcrew at hotmail.co.uk Sun Apr 1 08:07:02 2012
From: calendarcrew at hotmail.co.uk (richard jones)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:07:02 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter "hibernation"?
In-Reply-To: <4F784E7E.7070204@bluewin.ch>
References: <4F784E7E.7070204@bluewin.ch>
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Only one. Remove spark plugs, crank over until your satisfied you have oil pressure then refit plugs. Before you crank remove fuel pump fuse or relay to prevent fuel exiting the engine as it is a fire hazzard.. These V8's are prone to leak off of oil pressure if stood for some time, this is the quickest way to prevent any damage during start up. You should be ok after that
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:47:58 +0200
> From: pj.info at bluewin.ch
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a winter "hibernation"?
>
>
> Dear Rovernetters
>
> Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
> '87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
> The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car
> was located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped
> below some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> Best regards,
> Pierre.
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Sun Apr 1 09:50:50 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:50:50 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
In-Reply-To: <4F784E7E.7070204@bluewin.ch>
References: <4F784E7E.7070204@bluewin.ch>
Message-ID: <FD16CAFF57D24099A1B42D3A734E0D6F@SD1>
Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of PJ Info
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
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From pj.info at bluewin.ch Mon Apr 2 11:50:19 2012
From: pj.info at bluewin.ch (pj.info at bluewin.ch)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:50:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
a winter"hibernation"?
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Hi Ben
Thank you for your hint. Do you think it would be too risky to just start the engine while watching the oil pressure gauge and keeping it on if the pressure is OK after say 10 sec, otherwise turn it off immediately?
Best regards,
Pierre.
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 01.04.2012 16:50
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a winter&quot;hibernation&quot;?
Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of PJ Info
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon Apr 2 12:09:53 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:09:53 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine
aftera winter"hibernation"?
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Hello Pierre,
If it has only been sitting a few months then you can take the chance or to
be safe you can pull the oil pressure sender out and the plugs then crank
the engine with no load and see oil come put the sender port then replace
the sender and crank the engine to get the oil pressure up. This will pump
up the lifters and lube the top end then replace the plugs and you are good
to go. It is a bit of extra work but I have always wanted to rig some sort
of electric oil pump to pressurize the system before every start. I feel
that it will double the life of the engine. It could also come on if there
is low pressure when the engine is hot. Let me know how it turns out.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine aftera
winter"hibernation"?
Hi Ben
Thank you for your hint. Do you think it would be too risky to just start
the engine while watching the oil pressure gauge and keeping it on if the
pressure is OK after say 10 sec, otherwise turn it off immediately?
Best regards,
Pierre.
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 01.04.2012 16:50
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&quot;hibernation&quot;?
Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of PJ Info
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
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From pj.info at bluewin.ch Mon Apr 2 13:40:42 2012
From: pj.info at bluewin.ch (pj.info at bluewin.ch)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:40:42 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
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Hello Ben
Thank you again for your fast and explicit answer. I'll do it as you recommend. Just a question, both the oil pressure switch (I suppose it is the smaller one -about 1" diameter-) and the pressure transducer (I suppose it is th larger one -about 2" diameter- and just beneath the alternator) have one wire each. The smaller one would be easier to remove (only by hand/any risk to break?) since being more accessible. Would this be equivalent for checking correct priming? Btw. I have no idea of what oil amount/pressure is expected to come out there while cranking?
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 19:09
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a winter&quot;hibernation&quot;?
Hello Pierre,
If it has only been sitting a few months then you can take the chance or to
be safe you can pull the oil pressure sender out and the plugs then crank
the engine with no load and see oil come put the sender port then replace
the sender and crank the engine to get the oil pressure up. This will pump
up the lifters and lube the top end then replace the plugs and you are good
to go. It is a bit of extra work but I have always wanted to rig some sort
of electric oil pump to pressurize the system before every start. I feel
that it will double the life of the engine. It could also come on if there
is low pressure when the engine is hot. Let me know how it turns out.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine aftera
winter"hibernation"?
Hi Ben
Thank you for your hint. Do you think it would be too risky to just start
the engine while watching the oil pressure gauge and keeping it on if the
pressure is OK after say 10 sec, otherwise turn it off immediately?
Best regards,
Pierre.
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 01.04.2012 16:50
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;quot;hibernation&amp;quot;?
Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of PJ Info
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon Apr 2 14:58:26 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:58:26 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
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Pierre,
You may be able to turn the engine by hand and see if any oil comes out. If
it does then it dose not need to be primed and you can remove either sender
to see. If you turn the engine by the battery then wrap a towel or cloth
around the pump to cover the sender port. There won't be a lot of discharge
since the engine is not starting and you may want to have someone crank the
engine while you look and have them stop as soon as you see the oil. BTW
where are you located?
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:41 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
Hello Ben
Thank you again for your fast and explicit answer. I'll do it as you
recommend. Just a question, both the oil pressure switch (I suppose it is
the smaller one -about 1" diameter-) and the pressure transducer (I suppose
it is th larger one -about 2" diameter- and just beneath the alternator)
have one wire each. The smaller one would be easier to remove (only by
hand/any risk to break?) since being more accessible. Would this be
equivalent for checking correct priming? Btw. I have no idea of what oil
amount/pressure is expected to come out there while cranking?
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 19:09
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&quot;hibernation&quot;?
Hello Pierre,
If it has only been sitting a few months then you can take the chance or to
be safe you can pull the oil pressure sender out and the plugs then crank
the engine with no load and see oil come put the sender port then replace
the sender and crank the engine to get the oil pressure up. This will pump
up the lifters and lube the top end then replace the plugs and you are good
to go. It is a bit of extra work but I have always wanted to rig some sort
of electric oil pump to pressurize the system before every start. I feel
that it will double the life of the engine. It could also come on if there
is low pressure when the engine is hot. Let me know how it turns out.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine aftera
winter"hibernation"?
Hi Ben
Thank you for your hint. Do you think it would be too risky to just start
the engine while watching the oil pressure gauge and keeping it on if the
pressure is OK after say 10 sec, otherwise turn it off immediately?
Best regards,
Pierre.
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 01.04.2012 16:50
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;quot;hibernation&amp;quot;?
Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
Ben
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of PJ Info
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Mon Apr 2 15:12:41 2012
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:12:41 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
In-Reply-To: <C30B06E9E020477AB57C857ABC28D848@SD1>
References: <4F784E7E.7070204@bluewin.ch><FD16CAFF57D24099A1B42D3A734E0D6F@SD1><21789.157971333385419778.JavaMail.webmail@bluewin.ch><E8E0AADD67E34D2F98314DC8D8EE93F4@SD1>,
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Message-ID: <BAY145-W6C8EFECB5E7E93FAA592E954C0@phx.gbl>
I have been following this thread and it made me wonder...how many of us have rovers that sit for the winter months and in the spring we simply start the car...of courser keeping an eye on the guages to ensure all is still as it should be...maybe I am in a miniority but I have only once lost oil prime and that was after many ..many years of starting each spring.. Regards Dennis Brooks
> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:58:26 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after hibernation?
>
>
> Pierre,
> You may be able to turn the engine by hand and see if any oil comes out. If
> it does then it dose not need to be primed and you can remove either sender
> to see. If you turn the engine by the battery then wrap a towel or cloth
> around the pump to cover the sender port. There won't be a lot of discharge
> since the engine is not starting and you may want to have someone crank the
> engine while you look and have them stop as soon as you see the oil. BTW
> where are you located?
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:41 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
> hibernation?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Ben
>
> Thank you again for your fast and explicit answer. I'll do it as you
> recommend. Just a question, both the oil pressure switch (I suppose it is
> the smaller one -about 1" diameter-) and the pressure transducer (I suppose
> it is th larger one -about 2" diameter- and just beneath the alternator)
> have one wire each. The smaller one would be easier to remove (only by
> hand/any risk to break?) since being more accessible. Would this be
> equivalent for checking correct priming? Btw. I have no idea of what oil
> amount/pressure is expected to come out there while cranking?
>
> Best regards
> Pierre
>
>
>
>
> ----Message d'origine----
> De: bsaunders at firstva.com
> Date: 02.04.2012 19:09
> ?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
> winter&quot;hibernation&quot;?
>
>
> Hello Pierre,
> If it has only been sitting a few months then you can take the chance or to
> be safe you can pull the oil pressure sender out and the plugs then crank
> the engine with no load and see oil come put the sender port then replace
> the sender and crank the engine to get the oil pressure up. This will pump
> up the lifters and lube the top end then replace the plugs and you are good
> to go. It is a bit of extra work but I have always wanted to rig some sort
> of electric oil pump to pressurize the system before every start. I feel
> that it will double the life of the engine. It could also come on if there
> is low pressure when the engine is hot. Let me know how it turns out.
> Ben
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine aftera
> winter"hibernation"?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Ben
>
> Thank you for your hint. Do you think it would be too risky to just start
> the engine while watching the oil pressure gauge and keeping it on if the
> pressure is OK after say 10 sec, otherwise turn it off immediately?
>
> Best regards,
> Pierre.
>
>
>
>
> ----Message d'origine----
> De: bsaunders at firstva.com
> Date: 01.04.2012 16:50
> ?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
> winter&amp;quot;hibernation&amp;quot;?
>
>
> Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
> over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
> oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
> check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
> and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
> there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of PJ Info
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
> winter"hibernation"?
>
>
> Dear Rovernetters
>
> Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
> '87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
> The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
> located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
> some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> Best regards,
> Pierre.
>
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From: pj.info at bluewin.ch (pj.info at bluewin.ch)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:37:59 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine
after hibernation?
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Hello Ben,
Ok, I'll do that tomorrow afternoon. I meant unscrewing and screwing back by hand either the pressure switch or the pressure transducer in order not to damage them; am I right? They are still in place since over 25 years now! My location is in the french-speaking part of Switzerland. Are you located in the US?
Thank you for your help.
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 21:58
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after hibernation?
Pierre,
You may be able to turn the engine by hand and see if any oil comes out. If
it does then it dose not need to be primed and you can remove either sender
to see. If you turn the engine by the battery then wrap a towel or cloth
around the pump to cover the sender port. There won't be a lot of discharge
since the engine is not starting and you may want to have someone crank the
engine while you look and have them stop as soon as you see the oil. BTW
where are you located?
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:41 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
Hello Ben
Thank you again for your fast and explicit answer. I'll do it as you
recommend. Just a question, both the oil pressure switch (I suppose it is
the smaller one -about 1" diameter-) and the pressure transducer (I suppose
it is th larger one -about 2" diameter- and just beneath the alternator)
have one wire each. The smaller one would be easier to remove (only by
hand/any risk to break?) since being more accessible. Would this be
equivalent for checking correct priming? Btw. I have no idea of what oil
amount/pressure is expected to come out there while cranking?
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 19:09
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;quot;hibernation&amp;quot;?
Hello Pierre,
If it has only been sitting a few months then you can take the chance or to
be safe you can pull the oil pressure sender out and the plugs then crank
the engine with no load and see oil come put the sender port then replace
the sender and crank the engine to get the oil pressure up. This will pump
up the lifters and lube the top end then replace the plugs and you are good
to go. It is a bit of extra work but I have always wanted to rig some sort
of electric oil pump to pressurize the system before every start. I feel
that it will double the life of the engine. It could also come on if there
is low pressure when the engine is hot. Let me know how it turns out.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine aftera
winter"hibernation"?
Hi Ben
Thank you for your hint. Do you think it would be too risky to just start
the engine while watching the oil pressure gauge and keeping it on if the
pressure is OK after say 10 sec, otherwise turn it off immediately?
Best regards,
Pierre.
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 01.04.2012 16:50
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;amp;quot;hibernation&amp;amp;quot;?
Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of PJ Info
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
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From kkinard at att.net Mon Apr 2 17:18:14 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:18:14 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Radio needed for P4 100 for sale in Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <4F7A25A6.2060705@att.net>
Hi Netters,
Those of you who uses jaxed mash or have seen the posting on Ausin, TX
Craigslist will know about the car. The young man's name is Christian
Shirrell (email is: fuzzybob4 at yahoo.com). The car was imported from the
UK and is RHD. The car is supposedly restored, but I haven't seen it
and the young man is not particularly car savvy.
The radio was stolen while the car was en route from the UK, so he is
looking for an appropriate radio from 1962. Does anyone on Rovernet
have such a radio?
Roverly,
Kent K.
From tom at rymes.net Mon Apr 2 18:31:13 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:31:13 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Radio needed for P4 100 for sale in Austin, Texas
In-Reply-To: <4F7A25A6.2060705@att.net>
References: <4F7A25A6.2060705@att.net>
Message-ID: <658ED05A-1C0C-408F-9752-EDECB23B30DD@rymes.net>
Kent,
The MG community might be his best bet. It's quite large due to the popularity/longevity of the MGB and the MGB was introduced in 1962.
My first stop would be the Trader forum at http://mgexperience.net
Tom
On Apr 2, 2012, at 6:18 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
> Hi Netters,
> Those of you who uses jaxed mash or have seen the posting on Ausin, TX Craigslist will know about the car. The young man's name is Christian Shirrell (email is: fuzzybob4 at yahoo.com). The car was imported from the UK and is RHD. The car is supposedly restored, but I haven't seen it and the young man is not particularly car savvy.
>
> The radio was stolen while the car was en route from the UK, so he is looking for an appropriate radio from 1962. Does anyone on Rovernet have such a radio?
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
>
>
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From kkinard at att.net Mon Apr 2 19:30:51 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:30:51 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Radio needed for P4 100 for sale in Austin, Texas
In-Reply-To: <658ED05A-1C0C-408F-9752-EDECB23B30DD@rymes.net>
References: <4F7A25A6.2060705@att.net>
<658ED05A-1C0C-408F-9752-EDECB23B30DD@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <4F7A44BB.80104@att.net>
Thanks, Tom. I really don't know what original equipment would have been
in the UK. I have some P5 radios from the '60's if I didn't throw them
away in the last move.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Tom Rymes wrote:
> Kent,
>
> The MG community might be his best bet. It's quite large due to the popularity/longevity of the MGB and the MGB was introduced in 1962.
>
> My first stop would be the Trader forum at http://mgexperience.net
>
> Tom
>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 6:18 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Netters,
>> Those of you who uses jaxed mash or have seen the posting on Ausin, TX Craigslist will know about the car. The young man's name is Christian Shirrell (email is: fuzzybob4 at yahoo.com). The car was imported from the UK and is RHD. The car is supposedly restored, but I haven't seen it and the young man is not particularly car savvy.
>>
>> The radio was stolen while the car was en route from the UK, so he is looking for an appropriate radio from 1962. Does anyone on Rovernet have such a radio?
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>>
>>
>> **************************************
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon Apr 2 19:44:09 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:44:09 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Radio needed for P4 100 for sale in Austin, Texas
In-Reply-To: <4F7A25A6.2060705@att.net>
References: <4F7A25A6.2060705@att.net>
Message-ID: <4F7A47D9.807@alum.swarthmore.edu>
He may need to narrow down the search a little -- for example, which
type of radio, how much of it was taken (that is, just the radio or the
entire center panel of the dashboard). Here is evidence of at least two
types:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rover-p4-100-radio-vintage-radiomobile-his-masters-voice-/230767179201?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&hash=item35bacbb5c1
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-P4-CENTRE-DASH-RADIO-FASCIA-PANEL-C-W-SPEAKER-VGC-/380422953948?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5892f99bdc
Alternatively, it might be easier to find a center glove box and door.
The cavernous glovebox on the passenger side is pretty much out of reach
of the driver anyway.
--Steve
On 4/2/2012 6:18 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>
> Hi Netters,
> Those of you who uses jaxed mash or have seen the posting on Ausin, TX
> Craigslist will know about the car. The young man's name is Christian
> Shirrell (email is: fuzzybob4 at yahoo.com). The car was imported from
> the UK and is RHD. The car is supposedly restored, but I haven't seen
> it and the young man is not particularly car savvy.
>
> The radio was stolen while the car was en route from the UK, so he is
> looking for an appropriate radio from 1962. Does anyone on Rovernet
> have such a radio?
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
>
>
> **************************************
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>
>
>
From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon Apr 2 20:06:16 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:06:16 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i
engineafter hibernation?
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References: <4F784E7E.7070204@bluewin.ch><FD16CAFF57D24099A1B42D3A734E0D6F@SD1><21789.157971333385419778.JavaMail.webmail@bluewin.ch><E8E0AADD67E34D2F98314DC8D8EE93F4@SD1><20622697.179841333392042981.JavaMail.webmail@bluewin.ch><C30B06E9E020477AB57C857ABC28D848@SD1>
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Hi Pierre,
Sounds like you have the right idea. I am located in the southern speaking
part of Virginia US between Charlottesville and Richmond. Do drop in if you
are ever this way. We are having a Rover tech meeting on the 7th and hoping
to have a good turn out of Rover owners both 4 wheel and 2 wheel drive type.
You can check out our club sith at www.roav.org if you get a chance. It is
not very up to date but we have had as many as 450 Land Rovers to our Mid
Atlantic Rally. Right now I am trying to drum up interest in events for the
Rover sedan owners which j have been trying for over 30 years. I went to a
tractor show last year and under a tent of antique cars sat a beautiful all
original 37 Rover 12. Small world! Sorry for all the gab but please do let
me know the outcome of your mission and send a photo if you get a chance.
Cheers,
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:38 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engineafter
hibernation?
Hello Ben,
Ok, I'll do that tomorrow afternoon. I meant unscrewing and screwing back by
hand either the pressure switch or the pressure transducer in order not to
damage them; am I right? They are still in place since over 25 years now! My
location is in the french-speaking part of Switzerland. Are you located in
the US?
Thank you for your help.
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 21:58
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
Pierre,
You may be able to turn the engine by hand and see if any oil comes out. If
it does then it dose not need to be primed and you can remove either sender
to see. If you turn the engine by the battery then wrap a towel or cloth
around the pump to cover the sender port. There won't be a lot of discharge
since the engine is not starting and you may want to have someone crank the
engine while you look and have them stop as soon as you see the oil. BTW
where are you located?
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:41 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
Hello Ben
Thank you again for your fast and explicit answer. I'll do it as you
recommend. Just a question, both the oil pressure switch (I suppose it is
the smaller one -about 1" diameter-) and the pressure transducer (I suppose
it is th larger one -about 2" diameter- and just beneath the alternator)
have one wire each. The smaller one would be easier to remove (only by
hand/any risk to break?) since being more accessible. Would this be
equivalent for checking correct priming? Btw. I have no idea of what oil
amount/pressure is expected to come out there while cranking?
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 19:09
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;quot;hibernation&amp;quot;?
Hello Pierre,
If it has only been sitting a few months then you can take the chance or to
be safe you can pull the oil pressure sender out and the plugs then crank
the engine with no load and see oil come put the sender port then replace
the sender and crank the engine to get the oil pressure up. This will pump
up the lifters and lube the top end then replace the plugs and you are good
to go. It is a bit of extra work but I have always wanted to rig some sort
of electric oil pump to pressurize the system before every start. I feel
that it will double the life of the engine. It could also come on if there
is low pressure when the engine is hot. Let me know how it turns out.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine aftera
winter"hibernation"?
Hi Ben
Thank you for your hint. Do you think it would be too risky to just start
the engine while watching the oil pressure gauge and keeping it on if the
pressure is OK after say 10 sec, otherwise turn it off immediately?
Best regards,
Pierre.
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 01.04.2012 16:50
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;amp;quot;hibernation&amp;amp;quot;?
Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of PJ Info
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
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From kkinard at att.net Mon Apr 2 21:49:43 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:49:43 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Radio needed for P4 100 for sale in Austin, Texas
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Thanks, Steve. This will be very helpful. -KK
S Manwell wrote:
>
> He may need to narrow down the search a little -- for example, which
> type of radio, how much of it was taken (that is, just the radio or
> the entire center panel of the dashboard). Here is evidence of at
> least two types:
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rover-p4-100-radio-vintage-radiomobile-his-masters-voice-/230767179201?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&hash=item35bacbb5c1
>
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-P4-CENTRE-DASH-RADIO-FASCIA-PANEL-C-W-SPEAKER-VGC-/380422953948?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5892f99bdc
>
>
> Alternatively, it might be easier to find a center glove box and door.
> The cavernous glovebox on the passenger side is pretty much out of
> reach of the driver anyway.
>
> --Steve
>
>
> On 4/2/2012 6:18 PM, Kent Kinard wrote:
>>
>> Hi Netters,
>> Those of you who uses jaxed mash or have seen the posting on Ausin,
>> TX Craigslist will know about the car. The young man's name is
>> Christian Shirrell (email is: fuzzybob4 at yahoo.com). The car was
>> imported from the UK and is RHD. The car is supposedly restored, but
>> I haven't seen it and the young man is not particularly car savvy.
>>
>> The radio was stolen while the car was en route from the UK, so he is
>> looking for an appropriate radio from 1962. Does anyone on Rovernet
>> have such a radio?
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>>
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From pj.info at bluewin.ch Tue Apr 3 17:23:07 2012
From: pj.info at bluewin.ch (pj.info at bluewin.ch)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:23:07 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
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Hi Ben,
Great to hear about your event! I had problems to connect to the site http://www.roav.org/ (timeout). Ok, I did it and started the engine again. I noticed that cranking without the plugs and the injection pump switched off, this appearently pre-lubricated the engine again and the oil pressure switch even went off after a few seconds cranking.
However, after starting the engine, the pressure climbed very slowly to 15 lb/inch2, then went even slower to the middle 30 lb/inch2 at about 1500 rpm. At idle (800 rpm) it tended to drop towards 15 (cold engine). I just did the check and did not let it warm up, maybe that is the reason? I'll now let the oil go down to the sump overnight and check the level and pressure on the gauge again tomorrow.
Many thanks or your hint.
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 03.04.2012 03:06
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engineafter hibernation?
Hi Pierre,
Sounds like you have the right idea. I am located in the southern speaking
part of Virginia US between Charlottesville and Richmond. Do drop in if you
are ever this way. We are having a Rover tech meeting on the 7th and hoping
to have a good turn out of Rover owners both 4 wheel and 2 wheel drive type.
You can check out our club sith at www.roav.org if you get a chance. It is
not very up to date but we have had as many as 450 Land Rovers to our Mid
Atlantic Rally. Right now I am trying to drum up interest in events for the
Rover sedan owners which j have been trying for over 30 years. I went to a
tractor show last year and under a tent of antique cars sat a beautiful all
original 37 Rover 12. Small world! Sorry for all the gab but please do let
me know the outcome of your mission and send a photo if you get a chance.
Cheers,
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:38 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engineafter
hibernation?
Hello Ben,
Ok, I'll do that tomorrow afternoon. I meant unscrewing and screwing back by
hand either the pressure switch or the pressure transducer in order not to
damage them; am I right? They are still in place since over 25 years now! My
location is in the french-speaking part of Switzerland. Are you located in
the US?
Thank you for your help.
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 21:58
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
Pierre,
You may be able to turn the engine by hand and see if any oil comes out. If
it does then it dose not need to be primed and you can remove either sender
to see. If you turn the engine by the battery then wrap a towel or cloth
around the pump to cover the sender port. There won't be a lot of discharge
since the engine is not starting and you may want to have someone crank the
engine while you look and have them stop as soon as you see the oil. BTW
where are you located?
Ben
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:41 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
Hello Ben
Thank you again for your fast and explicit answer. I'll do it as you
recommend. Just a question, both the oil pressure switch (I suppose it is
the smaller one -about 1" diameter-) and the pressure transducer (I suppose
it is th larger one -about 2" diameter- and just beneath the alternator)
have one wire each. The smaller one would be easier to remove (only by
hand/any risk to break?) since being more accessible. Would this be
equivalent for checking correct priming? Btw. I have no idea of what oil
amount/pressure is expected to come out there while cranking?
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 19:09
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;amp;quot;hibernation&amp;amp;quot;?
Hello Pierre,
If it has only been sitting a few months then you can take the chance or to
be safe you can pull the oil pressure sender out and the plugs then crank
the engine with no load and see oil come put the sender port then replace
the sender and crank the engine to get the oil pressure up. This will pump
up the lifters and lube the top end then replace the plugs and you are good
to go. It is a bit of extra work but I have always wanted to rig some sort
of electric oil pump to pressurize the system before every start. I feel
that it will double the life of the engine. It could also come on if there
is low pressure when the engine is hot. Let me know how it turns out.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine aftera
winter"hibernation"?
Hi Ben
Thank you for your hint. Do you think it would be too risky to just start
the engine while watching the oil pressure gauge and keeping it on if the
pressure is OK after say 10 sec, otherwise turn it off immediately?
Best regards,
Pierre.
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 01.04.2012 16:50
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;amp;amp;quot;hibernation&amp;amp;amp;quot;?
Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
Ben
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of PJ Info
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Tue Apr 3 21:11:10 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:11:10 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
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If you have any pressure at all then the pump is primed and you do not want
to loose that. You may want to hook up a mechanical guage to verify the
pressure. I built a jump start box that has a temperature and oil guage in
it for this very reason. A cheap guage can do a lot to keep the engine
going.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:23 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
Hi Ben,
Great to hear about your event! I had problems to connect to the site
http://www.roav.org/ (timeout). Ok, I did it and started the engine again. I
noticed that cranking without the plugs and the injection pump switched off,
this appearently pre-lubricated the engine again and the oil pressure switch
even went off after a few seconds cranking.
However, after starting the engine, the pressure climbed very slowly to 15
lb/inch2, then went even slower to the middle 30 lb/inch2 at about 1500 rpm.
At idle (800 rpm) it tended to drop towards 15 (cold engine). I just did the
check and did not let it warm up, maybe that is the reason? I'll now let the
oil go down to the sump overnight and check the level and pressure on the
gauge again tomorrow.
Many thanks or your hint.
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 03.04.2012 03:06
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engineafter
hibernation?
Hi Pierre,
Sounds like you have the right idea. I am located in the southern speaking
part of Virginia US between Charlottesville and Richmond. Do drop in if you
are ever this way. We are having a Rover tech meeting on the 7th and hoping
to have a good turn out of Rover owners both 4 wheel and 2 wheel drive type.
You can check out our club sith at www.roav.org if you get a chance. It is
not very up to date but we have had as many as 450 Land Rovers to our Mid
Atlantic Rally. Right now I am trying to drum up interest in events for the
Rover sedan owners which j have been trying for over 30 years. I went to a
tractor show last year and under a tent of antique cars sat a beautiful all
original 37 Rover 12. Small world! Sorry for all the gab but please do let
me know the outcome of your mission and send a photo if you get a chance.
Cheers,
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:38 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engineafter
hibernation?
Hello Ben,
Ok, I'll do that tomorrow afternoon. I meant unscrewing and screwing back by
hand either the pressure switch or the pressure transducer in order not to
damage them; am I right? They are still in place since over 25 years now! My
location is in the french-speaking part of Switzerland. Are you located in
the US?
Thank you for your help.
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 21:58
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
Pierre,
You may be able to turn the engine by hand and see if any oil comes out. If
it does then it dose not need to be primed and you can remove either sender
to see. If you turn the engine by the battery then wrap a towel or cloth
around the pump to cover the sender port. There won't be a lot of discharge
since the engine is not starting and you may want to have someone crank the
engine while you look and have them stop as soon as you see the oil. BTW
where are you located?
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:41 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after
hibernation?
Hello Ben
Thank you again for your fast and explicit answer. I'll do it as you
recommend. Just a question, both the oil pressure switch (I suppose it is
the smaller one -about 1" diameter-) and the pressure transducer (I suppose
it is th larger one -about 2" diameter- and just beneath the alternator)
have one wire each. The smaller one would be easier to remove (only by
hand/any risk to break?) since being more accessible. Would this be
equivalent for checking correct priming? Btw. I have no idea of what oil
amount/pressure is expected to come out there while cranking?
Best regards
Pierre
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 02.04.2012 19:09
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;amp;quot;hibernation&amp;amp;quot;?
Hello Pierre,
If it has only been sitting a few months then you can take the chance or to
be safe you can pull the oil pressure sender out and the plugs then crank
the engine with no load and see oil come put the sender port then replace
the sender and crank the engine to get the oil pressure up. This will pump
up the lifters and lube the top end then replace the plugs and you are good
to go. It is a bit of extra work but I have always wanted to rig some sort
of electric oil pump to pressurize the system before every start. I feel
that it will double the life of the engine. It could also come on if there
is low pressure when the engine is hot. Let me know how it turns out.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of pj.info at bluewin.ch
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine aftera
winter"hibernation"?
Hi Ben
Thank you for your hint. Do you think it would be too risky to just start
the engine while watching the oil pressure gauge and keeping it on if the
pressure is OK after say 10 sec, otherwise turn it off immediately?
Best regards,
Pierre.
----Message d'origine----
De: bsaunders at firstva.com
Date: 01.04.2012 16:50
?: "Rovernet"<rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Objet: Re: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter&amp;amp;amp;quot;hibernation&amp;amp;amp;quot;?
Just make sure that the oil pump has not lost its prime. It should be OK
over the time period you have stated but I have seen them loose it after an
oil change where the filter was off for a while (two or three days. You can
check this by removing the oil pressure switch after pulling the coil wire
and crank the engine to see if any oil is coming out. If so the prime is
there.If not let me know and I will tell you an easy way to get it primed.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of PJ Info
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:48 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Any hints before restarting a V8i engine after a
winter"hibernation"?
Dear Rovernetters
Are there any hints or any measures to observe before restarting a Rover
'87 Vitesse V8i engine after a 3 months winter "hibernation"?
The battery has been maintained by a C-Tek maintenance charger, the car was
located in a garage with a temperature that should not have dropped below
some 3-5?C (37-42?F). The Levels (Oil, Water, etc. are OK...).
Thank you for your answer.
Best regards,
Pierre.
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From tom at rymes.net Thu Apr 5 07:20:07 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:20:07 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
Message-ID: <553240FE-3DF4-4025-8CE6-F752A45CEB52@rymes.net>
Can anyone out there provide some assistance with 2000TC carbs?
A fellow who has put a pair on, of all things, a modified Big Healey is having issues when the car returns to idle. When it returns to idle, it bogs badly, almost stalls, and then recovers and runs fine.
Any pointers would be appreciated!
Tom
From vern at inkspotco.com Thu Apr 5 09:34:53 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:34:53 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
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Message-ID: <103592E7-EB02-4727-9B21-58A72A69B0DA@inkspotco.com>
What version of SUs? HD or HS? First question is did he change the needles? A carb set up to supply two cylinders is going to have problems serving three.
Yours
Vern
On 2012-04-05, at 5:20 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> Can anyone out there provide some assistance with 2000TC carbs?
>
> A fellow who has put a pair on, of all things, a modified Big Healey is having issues when the car returns to idle. When it returns to idle, it bogs badly, almost stalls, and then recovers and runs fine.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated!
>
> Tom
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From tom at rymes.net Thu Apr 5 09:48:01 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:48:01 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
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References: <553240FE-3DF4-4025-8CE6-F752A45CEB52@rymes.net>
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Vern,
They are HD8s. I think all is well with the needles and mixture. The only issue seems to be that the pistons slam shut too fast when returning to idle, cut off the flow of fuel, and cause the engine to almost stall. Then try rise back up and the engine recovers...
Tom
On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
>
> What version of SUs? HD or HS? First question is did he change the needles? A carb set up to supply two cylinders is going to have problems serving three.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On 2012-04-05, at 5:20 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
>>
>> Can anyone out there provide some assistance with 2000TC carbs?
>>
>> A fellow who has put a pair on, of all things, a modified Big Healey is having issues when the car returns to idle. When it returns to idle, it bogs badly, almost stalls, and then recovers and runs fine.
>>
>> Any pointers would be appreciated!
>>
>> Tom
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From sdibdin at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 09:54:00 2012
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:54:00 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
In-Reply-To: <D30A7960-9128-464D-B7FB-CFA897873897@rymes.net>
References: <553240FE-3DF4-4025-8CE6-F752A45CEB52@rymes.net>
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I know the NADA 2000TC's (with HS8) had a damper device fitted to the end of the throttle travel. It was meant to help emissions but would also help his issues.
Cheers,
Steven
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typing errors
On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:48, Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net> wrote:
>
> Vern,
>
> They are HD8s. I think all is well with the needles and mixture. The only issue seems to be that the pistons slam shut too fast when returning to idle, cut off the flow of fuel, and cause the engine to almost stall. Then try rise back up and the engine recovers...
>
> Tom
>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> What version of SUs? HD or HS? First question is did he change the needles? A carb set up to supply two cylinders is going to have problems serving three.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>>
>> On 2012-04-05, at 5:20 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone out there provide some assistance with 2000TC carbs?
>>>
>>> A fellow who has put a pair on, of all things, a modified Big Healey is having issues when the car returns to idle. When it returns to idle, it bogs badly, almost stalls, and then recovers and runs fine.
>>>
>>> Any pointers would be appreciated!
>>>
>>> Tom
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>> Inkspot Type & Design 250 864 5619 in at inkspotco.com
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Fri Apr 6 13:41:02 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 18:41:02 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
In-Reply-To: <553240FE-3DF4-4025-8CE6-F752A45CEB52@rymes.net>
References: <553240FE-3DF4-4025-8CE6-F752A45CEB52@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <BLU157-W275E7312C74E055538538EB8300@phx.gbl>
Simply put TC carbs won't work on a different engine without changing the needles to suit. Suggest tracking down the SU needle list and doing a cross-check comparison.
P.S.Go here: a mine of information on all things P6 technical.
http://www.classicroverforum.com
> From: tom at rymes.net
> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:20:07 -0400
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
>
>
> Can anyone out there provide some assistance with 2000TC carbs?
>
> A fellow who has put a pair on, of all things, a modified Big Healey is having issues when the car returns to idle. When it returns to idle, it bogs badly, almost stalls, and then recovers and runs fine.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated!
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Sat Apr 7 02:46:43 2012
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 03:46:43 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
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> Can anyone out there provide some assistance with 2000TC carbs?
>
> A fellow who has put a pair on, of all things, a modified Big Healey is having issues when the car returns to idle. When it returns to idle, it bogs badly, almost stalls, and then recovers and runs fine.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated!
>
> Tom
My Rover 2000 TC was doing that at one stage. The problem was the inlet manifold gasket had blown out from one of the inlet manifolds, therefore causing an air leak. I made new gaskets from gasket paper, and this solved the problem.
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com Sat Apr 7 03:51:23 2012
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 05:51:23 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
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I believe the key to his problem is to match up the fuel volume required for that specific engine requirements...I would only be guessing at what changes are needed in this case ..however with a little checking you should be able to determine what is needed to ensure the fuel volume is best regulated to suit the engine requirements...a direct swap may not work as the needs are probally quite different. The damper (as mentioned) is also a must in my (P6B) set up and I can't see it not being a must have item in similar carb applications ...this may well solve the current problem on it's own. Regards Dennis Brooks> From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 03:46:43 -0400
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
>
>
>
>
> > Message: 1
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> > To: "rovernet at rovernet.ca" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> > Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
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> > Can anyone out there provide some assistance with 2000TC carbs?
> >
> > A fellow who has put a pair on, of all things, a modified Big Healey is having issues when the car returns to idle. When it returns to idle, it bogs badly, almost stalls, and then recovers and runs fine.
> >
> > Any pointers would be appreciated!
> >
> > Tom
>
> My Rover 2000 TC was doing that at one stage. The problem was the inlet manifold gasket had blown out from one of the inlet manifolds, therefore causing an air leak. I made new gaskets from gasket paper, and this solved the problem.
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From jaguru at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 7 10:29:40 2012
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (jaguru at bellsouth.net)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 11:29:40 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
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Contact Joe Curto in New York, for advice and needles. He is the top SU man
in the US. He has a web site. James Dean
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Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
>
>
>
> I believe the key to his problem is to match up the fuel volume required
> for that specific engine requirements...I would only be guessing at what
> changes are needed in this case ..however with a little checking you
> should be able to determine what is needed to ensure the fuel volume is
> best regulated to suit the engine requirements...a direct swap may not
> work as the needs are probally quite different. The damper (as mentioned)
> is also a must in my (P6B) set up and I can't see it not being a must have
> item in similar carb applications ...this may well solve the current
> problem on it's own. Regards Dennis Brooks> From:
> j_radcliffe at hotmail.com
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 03:46:43 -0400
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Assistance with 2000 TC carbs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:20:07 -0400
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>> > To: "rovernet at rovernet.ca" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
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>> > Can anyone out there provide some assistance with 2000TC carbs?
>> >
>> > A fellow who has put a pair on, of all things, a modified Big Healey is
>> > having issues when the car returns to idle. When it returns to idle, it
>> > bogs badly, almost stalls, and then recovers and runs fine.
>> >
>> > Any pointers would be appreciated!
>> >
>> > Tom
>>
>> My Rover 2000 TC was doing that at one stage. The problem was the inlet
>> manifold gasket had blown out from one of the inlet manifolds, therefore
>> causing an air leak. I made new gaskets from gasket paper, and this
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From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE LA CERTE PSY D)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:11:29 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 144, Issue 9
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Seems like Rovernet has been hacked again
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:11:39 +0000
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G'day Lance, I haven't received any good reading material for a week or so, so you may be correct in that some idiot seems to get amusement in stuffing up a good avenue for like minded people.
We can only hope that this will get cleaned up.
Wayne.
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Hi
The "idiot" is only a mindless scrap of software code.
Unfortunately, once the URL is "out there", only really good server
antispam software and your filter settings and "delete" button can
contain it.
My learning junk filter has approx 70 entries to date.
Cheers
Dave
South Oz
On 4/18/2012 3:41 PM, Wayne Murray wrote:
>
> G'day Lance, I haven't received any good reading material for a week or so, so you may be correct in that some idiot seems to get amusement in stuffing up a good avenue for like minded people.
> We can only hope that this will get cleaned up.
> Wayne.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of LANCE LA CERTE PSY D
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:11 AM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 144, Issue 9
>
>
>
> Seems like Rovernet has been hacked again
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.Ecrasez l'infame
From Nash4447 at cs.com Thu Apr 19 14:11:30 2012
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:11:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
Message-ID: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
Has anyone out there ever replaced the windshield on an SD1 ?
I took the car to a local auto glass shop and was told that the stainless
finishers surrounding the windshield appear to be glued in place. Is this
how they are held on? If glued on, it would seem that would likely be
destroyed getting them off
and you would have to install all new finishers as part of the glass
replacement. Am I correct ?
Anyone care to comment please?
Thanks, Glenn
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From britishrover at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 14:39:20 2012
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:39:20 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
In-Reply-To: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
References: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
Message-ID: <CAKQjg_Q57EW=0yKU3nN3Gnqacvc091H3cESiCAmBmmsLDaKqaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Glenn,
Robert Heimerl, can tell you anything you may need to know about
that..he is on Rovernet, and should pick you up on this...if not
robertime at cavtel.net
Welcome to th world of SD1, frustrations...just kidding...
On 4/19/12, Nash4447 at cs.com <Nash4447 at cs.com> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone out there ever replaced the windshield on an SD1 ?
>
> I took the car to a local auto glass shop and was told that the stainless
> finishers surrounding the windshield appear to be glued in place. Is this
> how they are held on? If glued on, it would seem that would likely be
> destroyed getting them off
> and you would have to install all new finishers as part of the glass
> replacement. Am I correct ?
>
> Anyone care to comment please?
>
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From kkinard at att.net Thu Apr 19 14:49:31 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:49:31 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
In-Reply-To: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
References: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
Message-ID: <4F906C4B.1060500@att.net>
Hi Glen,
I have replaced SD1 front screens many times. The stainless comes out
with the windscreen. Do not try to remove it until the screen is out.
Run a screen removal wire between the stainless and the body. There are
only a couple of places where the wire will hang up on either the
stainless or the bodywork and these can be worked around with patience.
The ususal problem with SD1 front screens is getting them to stay in,
not getting them out. I have had them fall out while driving on the
freeway. Fortunately they are held in the channel by air pressure even
when the sealant fails! Unless the screen has been replaced previously,
it is probably not sealed all the way around and you will find a loose
corner by shoving or bumping it from the inside with the palm of your hand.
The original sealant was a rubber cord with a resistance wire embedded
in it. The cord was placed in the channel and the screen (with stainless
positioned around it) was placed in the channel on top of the rubber
cord. The cord was longer than the outside edge of the screen and two
ends were allowed to protrude from under the stainless with the ends of
the cord crossed. The resistance wire exposed ends were then connected
to a battery and the cord was vulcanized by the heated wire, thus
sealing the screen to the body with the inner lip of the stainless
embedded in the rubber. You can use more modern screen sealants nowdays.
Hope this helps.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Nash4447 at cs.com wrote:
>
> Has anyone out there ever replaced the windshield on an SD1 ?
>
> I took the car to a local auto glass shop and was told that the stainless
> finishers surrounding the windshield appear to be glued in place. Is this
> how they are held on? If glued on, it would seem that would likely be
> destroyed getting them off
> and you would have to install all new finishers as part of the glass
> replacement. Am I correct ?
>
> Anyone care to comment please?
>
> Thanks, Glenn
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Thu Apr 19 15:03:49 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:03:49 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
In-Reply-To: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
References: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
Message-ID: <96ACACAA95974E59A5EDC948FC1AF24A@SD1>
Rover set the wind screen in with a roll of sealant that had to be heated
via an internal wire to bond the glass to the body. I have never done one
and never want to. I have owned several (5) SD1's and am driving one now. If
I had it to do I think I would use RTV rubbrt sealant and some standoffs
made from slices of vacuum tube. But that is not my suggestion to you.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Nash4447 at cs.com
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:12 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
Has anyone out there ever replaced the windshield on an SD1 ?
I took the car to a local auto glass shop and was told that the stainless
finishers surrounding the windshield appear to be glued in place. Is this
how they are held on? If glued on, it would seem that would likely be
destroyed getting them off
and you would have to install all new finishers as part of the glass
replacement. Am I correct ?
Anyone care to comment please?
Thanks, Glenn
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From sdibdin at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 15:09:53 2012
From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:09:53 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
In-Reply-To: <96ACACAA95974E59A5EDC948FC1AF24A@SD1>
References: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
<96ACACAA95974E59A5EDC948FC1AF24A@SD1>
Message-ID: <CAC5dAAcRv2v0jb8CHitaa=Epg4CZmMgHNqWyqiZnNOEc3D3N9g@mail.gmail.com>
My TR7 had the same technology. The workshop manual called for a pull rope
saw for removal and then wire up the resistance wire to a fully charged car
battery for refitting.
I notice Rimmer Bros now recommend a mastic like material for windscreens:
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID009055
Hope that helps some,
Steven
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Ben Saunders <bsaunders at firstva.com> wrote:
>
> Rover set the wind screen in with a roll of sealant that had to be heated
> via an internal wire to bond the glass to the body. I have never done one
> and never want to. I have owned several (5) SD1's and am driving one now.
> If
> I had it to do I think I would use RTV rubbrt sealant and some standoffs
> made from slices of vacuum tube. But that is not my suggestion to you.
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> On
> Behalf Of Nash4447 at cs.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:12 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
>
>
>
> Has anyone out there ever replaced the windshield on an SD1 ?
>
> I took the car to a local auto glass shop and was told that the stainless
> finishers surrounding the windshield appear to be glued in place. Is
> this
>
> how they are held on? If glued on, it would seem that would likely be
> destroyed getting them off
> and you would have to install all new finishers as part of the glass
> replacement. Am I correct ?
>
> Anyone care to comment please?
>
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From Nash4447 at cs.com Thu Apr 19 16:00:58 2012
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:00:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
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Thank you so much Kent, I will show the glass shop your reply.
Glenn
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From Nash4447 at cs.com Thu Apr 19 16:02:20 2012
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:02:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
Message-ID: <6da13.56db6e76.3cc1d75c@cs.com>
Thanks Ben, today's urethane sealants are much better and replace the way
Rover did it 30 years ago.
Glenn
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From Nash4447 at cs.com Thu Apr 19 16:07:29 2012
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:07:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
Message-ID: <6dcd3.a3f4c66.3cc1d891@cs.com>
Yes, the modern urethane sealant that Rimmer sells is made by an outfit
located about 20 miles from me here and used by almost all auto glass shops
today. The old heated pull wire nonsense is history now. Thank you so much for
your reply.
Glenn
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From Nash4447 at cs.com Thu Apr 19 16:12:29 2012
From: Nash4447 at cs.com (Nash4447 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:12:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
Message-ID: <6dfab.aaae46e.3cc1d9bd@cs.com>
Kent - I have one more question. The headliner inside the car seems to
cover
the windscreen seal across the top from one side to the other. Does this
create an access problem for the removal wire ? Did you ever have to remove
the headliner?
Isn't piano wire used as the removal wire or is it some sort of saw tooth
wire?
Glenn
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From robertime at cavtel.net Thu Apr 19 16:51:25 2012
From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:51:25 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 windscreen replacement
In-Reply-To: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
References: <13974.25f154d.3cc1bd62@cs.com>
Message-ID: <CAG4k1tF6teDhcEFT7uQb3xrPP+EvS9+=EfT+96rc=mNBophbpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Glenn,
Hope you're doing well.
As Kent has already explained, these windshields are normally quite easy to
remove (if they've not previously been out and replaced using modern
urethane -- which normally holds better than the original sealant). I've
removed quite a few of them without any breakage (not even requiring the
wire-aroundmethod, but have yet to install any myself). After prying up
and removing the upper corner bits, you can usually get a sense of how well
glued in the windshield may be. Yes, the trim needs to come out with the
glass and is normally quite re-usable. It is, in fact, fitted around the
edge of the glass when that's placed in the body, so it has to both come
out and go in more or less simultaneously.
Although I've not done this on my own cars, there's another Robert (Bob
Petr) in Baltimore who had his car's windshield replaced at a glass shop
without any major concern being expressed by those doing the work. They
must have laid the assembly on top of a bead of urethane, which is how
almost all glass is installed these days.
I should be able to provide you with a fairly good diagram on this subject
from Autobooks' Rover 3500 manual if you'd like (will scan it in and send
it along). [The official Rover manual's account is (typically) long and
complicated (uses the method referred to by Kent) and the Haynes version
advises us not to try this ourselves, provides no further details.]
Regards,
Robert
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM, <Nash4447 at cs.com> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone out there ever replaced the windshield on an SD1 ?
>
> I took the car to a local auto glass shop and was told that the stainless
> finishers surrounding the windshield appear to be glued in place. Is
> this
> how they are held on? If glued on, it would seem that would likely be
> destroyed getting them off
> and you would have to install all new finishers as part of the glass
> replacement. Am I correct ?
>
> Anyone care to comment please?
>
> Thanks, Glenn
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Fri Apr 20 10:32:34 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:32:34 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] rare Italian P6 3500 S
References: <mailman.1.1334682003.25619.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca><COL111-W210F9E02EB330F4864319833F0@phx.gbl><35AF97FC1594E6468D985AFC3833520D9697E487@MBXBMT01.artc.int>
<4F8E8CE3.7070400@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <9CF06828E4664790B6E589A5359776BD@rw>
http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=213115137
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com Sat Apr 21 08:32:21 2012
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:32:21 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 2000 fan clutch.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1334941204.21835.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1334941204.21835.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <SNT105-W41D728CCE5F1C53C8A53AE8E230@phx.gbl>
I have been having cooling issues on my Rover 2000 automatic, primarily while sitting at traffic lights on hot days, then going up a steep hill, after waiting a few cycles to get through the intersection. I was going to fit an electric fan, however I decided to install an 11 blade fan and a fan clutch instead.
Then
fan clutch I installed was for a Jaguar XJ-6, Hayden 2765. This has a
flange with 5/16th inch bolt holes, and a 3/4" pilot. I sent off an old
water pump to be rebuilt and had the flange turned down to fit the 3/4"
pilot. I flushed the cooling system with muck out and water and removed
the radiator and flushed with a hose. I also renewed all the radiator
and heater hoses at the same time.
The rebuilt water pump went on
easily. The fan clutch was easy to install as well. I did however have
to modify the fan. The fan is also from a Jaguar XJ6. I had to cut off
1.25" off each blade. Ideally the should be done by a machine shop, who
can then balance the fan afterwards, which will help conserve the water
pump bearings.
The result is the car runs much cooler in the
heat. I just drove the Rover 2400 miles to Stanthorpe Queensland, and
return, for Nat Rove. Some of the days the temps were over 30 degrees C (85 degrees F),
and the car ran just at the start of the operating range of the temp
gauge. If anything I am overcooling a little bit, and need to go back to a 170 degree thermostat, instead of 160 degree thermostat. It looks very stock, a good thing on a car which is registered on historic registration.
I have posted photos on the backup Yahoo Rovernet list. Also there are photos of my 5 dollar coolant recovery system made from an orange juice bottle, and cable ties and photos of NatRove in Stanthorpe, Queensland.
James.
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From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sat Apr 21 09:41:52 2012
From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:41:52 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1964 P5 MkII on West Coast USA
Message-ID: <01c801cd1fcc$e4a30210$ade90630$@net>
I am considering buying a P5.
* It is a complete, original car64, LHD, serial number 777xxxxx, with almost no rust, but a few scrapes and dents on the body, a slightly bent rear bumper.
* It has not run in at least 10y, but has been stored in a garage.
* It has no brakes, but all the repair kits are there. Similarly the clutch is frozen. (It is a 4 speed, not auto.)
* The fuel pump is out, but available, and maybe not working.
* The interior is fairly good, with intact if dirty headliner, worn rugs, faded wood. The red leather is in very good condition; the light yellow paint very oxidized.
* The engine compartment is dirty, but all the bits are there.
* Currently the engine will barely move with the hand crank. We are soaking the cylinders.
* The wipers, windscreen washer, etc all work fine.
* So: It will need complete brakes, clutch hydraulics, fuel pump and a good attack by various cleaning and polishing agents, and varnish to wood, and maybe paint.
* I want to offer a fair price, considering its condition and potential and rarity. I owned a P5 3 Litre in the UK, and am not intimidated by the needed work.
Advice please?
AvMedSafe
Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
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From jaguru at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 21 10:13:52 2012
From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (jaguru at bellsouth.net)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:13:52 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Someone contacted me about a P5
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-W18CF0C0CDD4A1C995384F4B86F0@phx.gbl>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net><BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>,
<7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>,
<4F4D1D0F.80303@roverclub.org> <4F4D236C.5060509@rymes.net>,
<8CC87E16-3BDD-4F5E-9B1B-E8FE423884CD@inkspotco.com>
<BLU157-W18CF0C0CDD4A1C995384F4B86F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B599BC75A50E42D59B80BC3006011AAE@JamesDeanPC1>
I just received an inquiry from a customer who wants to buy a P5 he has
found and wants advice. I told him to join Rovernet Could someone contact
him? His name is Geff McCarthy, his email is geffandjulie at comcast.net
......................Thanks, James Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Sharpe" <trowzerkoff at hotmail.com>
To: "rover net" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
>
>
> When radio interference legislation came on in the 1950's, Rover tried
> getting around this problem by fitting supressors to each plug lead.
> These were small round black bakelite items made by the UK stove company
> Belling and which screwed into the normal plug caps covering each spark
> plug. They might have worked when new, but as they aged they broke down
> inside and all but quenched the ignition spark at peak load leading to a
> dramatic loss of engine performance and oiled up spark plugs. Any P4/5
> owners with these strange items still fitted should consider binning them
> asap - and enjoying an instant extra 15+ horsepower.
>
>> From: vern at inkspotco.com
>> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:12:58 -0800
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
>>
>>
>> One reason for putting HT inside a metal tube would be RF noise
>> suppression.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>>
>> On 2012-02-28, at 10:56 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > On 02/28/2012 1:29 PM, Magnet wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Not having a lot of familiarity with P5s, I can't say, but putting the
>> >> HT wires inside an earthed metal tube doesn't sound like an awfully
>> >> good idea...
>> >>
>> >> -- Bill
>> >
>> > Funny that you mention that, because I had a facepalm moment right
>> > after sending that. "Why would they use fiberboard? Oh...Duh!"
>> >
>> > Sounds like I will be having some fun with the Dremel and some plastic
>> > conduit this spring!
>> >
>> > Thanks for the help, guys.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
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>>
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>>
>>
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From peter at king-co.com Sat Apr 21 17:49:43 2012
From: peter at king-co.com (peter king)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:49:43 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1964 P5 MkII on West Coast USA
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Geoff,
If you do get the car, I have a good amount of spares I'd be happy to provide for shipping cost. (from boston)I have wood dash parts if any are broken, and may have a fuel pump. Let me know if I can help in any way to get you into that P5!
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On Apr 21, 2012, at 10:41 AM, "Geff McCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net> wrote:
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> I am considering buying a P5.
>
> * It is a complete, original car64, LHD, serial number 777xxxxx, with almost no rust, but a few scrapes and dents on the body, a slightly bent rear bumper.
> * It has not run in at least 10y, but has been stored in a garage.
> * It has no brakes, but all the repair kits are there. Similarly the clutch is frozen. (It is a 4 speed, not auto.)
> * The fuel pump is out, but available, and maybe not working.
> * The interior is fairly good, with intact if dirty headliner, worn rugs, faded wood. The red leather is in very good condition; the light yellow paint very oxidized.
> * The engine compartment is dirty, but all the bits are there.
> * Currently the engine will barely move with the hand crank. We are soaking the cylinders.
> * The wipers, windscreen washer, etc all work fine.
> * So: It will need complete brakes, clutch hydraulics, fuel pump and a good attack by various cleaning and polishing agents, and varnish to wood, and maybe paint.
> * I want to offer a fair price, considering its condition and potential and rarity. I owned a P5 3 Litre in the UK, and am not intimidated by the needed work.
>
> Advice please?
>
>
>
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From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:15:23 +1200
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1964 P5 MkII on West Coast USA
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Geff
Nice to se your name in lights in these parts as well
Being a cheapskate I'd suggest you figure out the cost of a good used interior and offer that for the whole car as to my mind the rest of the car is just scrap value until it's fixed.
Most uninformed sellers don't get that the value of old cars is usually defined by a mix of desirability/rarity and condition; P5s are unusual but not in the mainstream, so you'll be competing with either another Roverist or the scrap man if they are anxious to move the car. On the other hand if they are like some sellers especially those disposing of grandpas's estate they may have a price in mind based on an auction price for a fully restored example, in which case be prepared to walk away for a while and see if they come back a bit later
Aidrian
From robertime at cavtel.net Sat Apr 21 18:41:20 2012
From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:41:20 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1964 P5 MkII on West Coast USA
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Hi Dr. McCarthy (Geff),
This car sounds quite good overall. Many P5 spares are still to be found
on eBay.uk nowadays -- and you are located a great deal closer to Ruth
Burgess (All British Cars in Vancouver, BC) than most of us. The fact that
you've previously owned a P5 is also a real advantage, you'll know right
away if/when somethings amiss. And given your presence on Rovernet, I
imagine you've also joined the BC-based Rover Car Club of Canada, a
friendly and helpful group -- with an excellent publication (and their own
set of spare parts, featured in a recent story).
I have a copy of *Classic & Sports Cars* (July 2011) in front of me that
contains an extensive article titled "Regal Rover P5: How to Buy the Best."
Beyond that, James Taylor's fine book, *Rover P5 and P5B: The Complete
Story* provides this model's history, including all changes instituted
during its production life plus his own buying guide (it's available
through Barnes and Noble online, etc). Every source I've seen warns about
hidden unibody rust (and there are even YouTube videos available these days
that focus on rust repairs -- one is under "Rover P5, Pride and Joy
Restorations." Fortunately your prospective car seems to have avoided this
problem, but be sure to check behind the rear doors (particularly behind
the leading edge of the rear wings). Apparently that's one place rust set
in quite early on and became structural in nature.
The interior being in good condition is a major advantage -- I understand
that's where costs can really add up on P5's.
As for the mechanicals, it sounds as though you have made a rather thorough
assessment of this car's condition. Soaking the cylinders would be the way
to go -- I have no specific advice beyond that, but others on Rovernet
actually own this model (and a few of these cars are currently running and
driving -- including a RHD P5B coupe owned by Dirk Burrowes in
Massachusetts, who hosts a gathering for Rover owners every year). Perhaps
a dozen or so Rovernetters own P5's and they may want to volunteer further
information about their own cars. On the clutch: Once the engine is
running you may be able to get it to break free by moving the car around a
bit, starting it or pushing it in gear (very carefully, of course, avoiding
people, other cars, walls, etc.). I've seen clutches break loose several
times, saves a lot of effort. [It's possible that given the presence of an
overdrive unit, further caution may be warranted. Anyone else?]
I myself have two SD1's, but am currently keeping an eye out for a P5 in
restorable condition. Because this model is largely unknown in this
country, including among collectors, its market value would be difficult to
set precisely. I've heard of several hundred dollars for a basket case to
$4-5000 for one in very good condition (average $2000?). There were a
couple of these cars at a North Carolina British car shop until just
recently -- one was listed for $1500 (RHD coupe, with engine available
separately for an additional $500). [see Flyingcircusenglishcars.com] I
recently learned that a complete, now running, P5 Mk. II LHD saloon was
purchased for just under $1000 from somewhere in the midwest last year.
No, there's certainly not a strong demand for these cars in this country,
so if an enthusiast comes along and a seller wants to be reasonable there
won't be a lot of money exchanging hands. The main thing is to preserve a
few examples of "one of Britain's fine cars," to quote that old,
particularly modest, advertising slogan.
Hope this information is of some help. The magazine article listed above
may be available on eBay.uk and others such as *Practical Classics* have
had P5 buying guides featured every few years, particularly during the late
1980's when it was prime-time for original owners to be thinking about
selling their cars. There's now another generation of sellers and buyers,
but fewer of these cars survive the process each time. So it's good to
hear of someone else making the effort!
Best of luck with this project should you decide to proceed,
Robert Heimerl
Arlington, VA
(robertime at cavtel.net)
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Geff McCarthy <geffandjulie at comcast.net>wrote:
>
> I am considering buying a P5.
>
> * It is a complete, original car64, LHD, serial number 777xxxxx,
> with almost no rust, but a few scrapes and dents on the body, a slightly
> bent rear bumper.
> * It has not run in at least 10y, but has been stored in a garage.
> * It has no brakes, but all the repair kits are there. Similarly
> the clutch is frozen. (It is a 4 speed, not auto.)
> * The fuel pump is out, but available, and maybe not working.
> * The interior is fairly good, with intact if dirty headliner, worn
> rugs, faded wood. The red leather is in very good condition; the light
> yellow paint very oxidized.
> * The engine compartment is dirty, but all the bits are there.
> * Currently the engine will barely move with the hand crank. We are
> soaking the cylinders.
> * The wipers, windscreen washer, etc all work fine.
> * So: It will need complete brakes, clutch hydraulics, fuel pump and
> a good attack by various cleaning and polishing agents, and varnish to
> wood, and maybe paint.
> * I want to offer a fair price, considering its condition and
> potential and rarity. I owned a P5 3 Litre in the UK, and am not
> intimidated by the needed work.
>
> Advice please?
>
>
>
> AvMedSafe
>
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
>
> 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
>
> 503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
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From rich at fitz.us Tue Apr 24 01:03:45 2012
From: rich at fitz.us (Richard Fitzpatrick)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:03:45 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1964 P5 MkII on West Coast USA
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I got that one and the other P5 parts car for a retsomod project. Cost
me more to ship them than to buy them.
Richard Fitzpatrick
rich at fitz.us
On Apr 21, 2012, at 5:41 PM, ROBERT HEIMERL wrote:
> There were a
> couple of these cars at a North Carolina British car shop until just
> recently -- one was listed for $1500 (RHD coupe, with engine available
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From tom at rymes.net Tue Apr 24 07:32:03 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 08:32:03 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
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Looks like it's solid but needs mechanical love. DG automatic, I'm guessing.
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/2936559761.html
It's not mine, but I know I'd be looking if I was nearby!
Tom