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From magnet at roverclub.org  Wed Feb  1 08:12:47 2012
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:12:47 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B window switches
Message-ID: <4F29485F.9040808@roverclub.org>

As there hasn't been too much traffic on the Rovernet in the past few 
days, I thought I'd weigh in with a bit of hopefully useful information...

Actually, this was posted back in 2006 by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton (many 
thanks!) but I'm happy to say it's still valid.

The chrome-plated 4-switch unit on the console that controls the power 
windows on a P6B is almost always pitted after some 40 years, but new 
replacements are available from National Parts Depot in Canton, 
Michigan, USA.  (www.npdlink.com )  The part number is C-10777-102.

They also have the single switches for the rear doors.

These switches were used on late '60s Chevelles, amongst others.

I just purchased one and it looks identical to the original.

One caveat for P6 owners in Canada:  Be sure to ask NPD to use US Postal 
Service, not UPS, for shipping.  UPS, bless their hearts, collect a $34 
brokerage fee for collecting the $6.50 Canadian sales tax.  Easy money, 
what?

Cheers,

  -- Bill Daddis




From relliott44 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  1 13:03:00 2012
From: relliott44 at yahoo.com (Richard Elliott)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:03:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B window switches
In-Reply-To: <4F29485F.9040808@roverclub.org>
References: <4F29485F.9040808@roverclub.org>
Message-ID: <1328122980.50071.YahooMailNeo@web114713.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thank you Bill for advising about the P6B window switches. My switches seem ok.? I will also say thanks to all Rovernetters because you make this such a great forum.? I am still here but I am a very infrequent contributor to Rovernet.

Belated Happy New Year 2012



Rich Elliott 

near Dallas, Texas

1970 P6B NADA Tobacco Leaf
1966 TC Blue Label



________________________________
 From: Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org>
To: ROVERNET <rovernet at rovernet.ca> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:12 AM
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B window switches
 

As there hasn't been too much traffic on the Rovernet in the past few days, I thought I'd weigh in with a bit of hopefully useful information...

Actually, this was posted back in 2006 by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton (many thanks!) but I'm happy to say it's still valid.

The chrome-plated 4-switch unit on the console that controls the power windows on a P6B is almost always pitted after some 40 years, but new replacements are available from National Parts Depot in Canton, Michigan, USA.? (www.npdlink.com )? The part number is C-10777-102.

They also have the single switches for the rear doors.

These switches were used on late '60s Chevelles, amongst others.

I just purchased one and it looks identical to the original.

One caveat for P6 owners in Canada:? Be sure to ask NPD to use US Postal Service, not UPS, for shipping.? UPS, bless their hearts, collect a $34 brokerage fee for collecting the $6.50 Canadian sales tax.? Easy money, what?

Cheers,

-- Bill Daddis



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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com  Thu Feb  2 14:36:57 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:36:57 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B window switches
In-Reply-To: <4F29485F.9040808@roverclub.org>
References: <4F29485F.9040808@roverclub.org>
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Just the information I need. Aidrian told me about these but I forgot the supplier. 

Now, the bonus question for one million points. Where can one get the console surround that is 99.7% likely to be cracked......

Cheers
Adrian

> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:12:47 -0500
> From: magnet at roverclub.org
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P6B window switches
> 
> 
> As there hasn't been too much traffic on the Rovernet in the past few 
> days, I thought I'd weigh in with a bit of hopefully useful information...
> 
> Actually, this was posted back in 2006 by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton (many 
> thanks!) but I'm happy to say it's still valid.
> 
> The chrome-plated 4-switch unit on the console that controls the power 
> windows on a P6B is almost always pitted after some 40 years, but new 
> replacements are available from National Parts Depot in Canton, 
> Michigan, USA.  (www.npdlink.com )  The part number is C-10777-102.
> 
> They also have the single switches for the rear doors.
> 
> These switches were used on late '60s Chevelles, amongst others.
> 
> I just purchased one and it looks identical to the original.
> 
> One caveat for P6 owners in Canada:  Be sure to ask NPD to use US Postal 
> Service, not UPS, for shipping.  UPS, bless their hearts, collect a $34 
> brokerage fee for collecting the $6.50 Canadian sales tax.  Easy money, 
> what?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>   -- Bill Daddis
> 
> 
> 
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com  Mon Feb  6 04:12:32 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 02:12:32 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Re2:
Message-ID: <BLU154-W36D058F603616F1882CF59E740@phx.gbl>

How are you getting on, lucky stiff?
http://savus.ro/page177oo.php?itycamp=96

            Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:12:32
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net  Mon Feb  6 17:56:07 2012
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:56:07 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Early series 1 sc for sale in Edmonton
Message-ID: <F2DCCB72-A055-43F3-8702-BC401E1B58F2@telusplanet.net>

Nice early SC with sharkstooth grill, rarer overriders.
http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1966-Rover-Series-1-P6-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ341184521


From adrian.mcdonald at live.com  Mon Feb  6 18:04:44 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:04:44 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Re2:
Message-ID: <BLU154-W64FBCC6489A12BACEA7CE09E750@phx.gbl>

Good afternoon!
http://sailboardsgirona.com/page177oo.php?favpage=9



            Tue, 7 Feb 2012 1:04:43
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com  Thu Feb  9 17:00:08 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:00:08 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BLU154-W22B2164BC8ACD11F58F3B99E7B0@phx.gbl>

Hello, is everything ok?
http://sadadadoksadoksx.com/httphttpnewdrugstore162849102.php?buvlistid=63


            Fri, 10 Feb 2012 0:00:07
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com  Fri Feb 10 13:25:49 2012
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE LA CERTE PSY D)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:25:49 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] No subject
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1328896804.26693.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1328896804.26693.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rovernet.ca>
Message-ID: <COL111-W3330B498FED2510F7C722283780@phx.gbl>


It appears someone has hacked into the Rovernet again!  Don't open the link below that has 'drugstore' in it's line.

Lance La Certe, Psy.D., '70 3500sEcrasez l'infame

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From dburrowes at vy-tek.com  Sat Feb 11 12:19:43 2012
From: dburrowes at vy-tek.com (Dirk Burrowes)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:19:43 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 142, Issue 7
Message-ID: <20120211131943.16736@web006.nyc1.bluetie.com>

Hello All,

I hope to have a handle on the Rovernet issues in the coming weeks. We finally got the web hosting company to understand that Eric is no longer with us and have released the passwords to allow us to make changes and update things.

I will keep all posted

Dirk

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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 11 12:26:11 2012
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:26:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 142, Issue 7
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That's Dirk for taking the reins.
?
roland, no longer a Rover owner.

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From: Dirk Burrowes <dburrowes at vy-tek.com>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 142, Issue 7
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Date: Saturday, February 11, 2012, 10:19 AM



Hello All,

I hope to have a handle on the Rovernet issues in the coming weeks. We finally got the web hosting company to understand that Eric is no longer with us and have released the passwords to allow us to make changes and update things.

I will keep all posted

Dirk

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From vern at inkspotco.com  Sat Feb 11 20:27:21 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Main Account)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:27:21 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 142, Issue 7
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Message-ID: <98F6EABF-FDB0-40B2-9476-B3801AB38733@inkspotco.com>

Good news Dirk

It just so happens we just finished up the RCCC meeting and the tale of woe around Eric and the passwords was heavily discussed 

Yours
Vern

Inkspot Type & Design
250 864 5619
Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> I will keep all posted
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> Dirk
> 
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net  Sun Feb 12 14:47:00 2012
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:47:00 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
Message-ID: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>

Has anyone in Canada had springs made for a 2000 TC?
The local spring manufacturer in Edmonton will not do car springs.
Thanks for any help.
Roy



From gbbourque at gmail.com  Sun Feb 12 15:46:56 2012
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:46:56 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
In-Reply-To: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>
References: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <CAJBLATSKCMn_U9dxQ4iOaJ7P-2eNTascODBjNkV6KDokKY2p4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Roy,
  I will try to think back to whom I had make a set of rear springs for my
'70 3500S about 10 years ago.  I actually asked for them to be made a
little stiffer to compress than stock and 1/2 inch taller when relaxed.  I
did this to eleminate the back of the car bottoming out so often when
riding with passengers.  I still have the original springs that came out.
They are probably a little stiffer than what came in a 2000.  If you think
they would work, you are welcome to buy them. Also, If you are looking, I
have the name of a man who I think still has a pair of NOS Woodhead rear
shocks for a 2000.
Good luck with your search,
Garrett Bourque

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>wrote:

>
> Has anyone in Canada had springs made for a 2000 TC?
> The local spring manufacturer in Edmonton will not do car springs.
> Thanks for any help.
> Roy
>
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From scareycolin54 at live.co.uk  Sun Feb 12 18:16:22 2012
From: scareycolin54 at live.co.uk (Colin Gould)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:16:22 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
In-Reply-To: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>
References: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W288F4F960D01677FB0D470877F0@phx.gbl>


Hi All ,
They are available from Rover Classics 0044 1777 816 600 they are 25/35% uprated , variable rate springs and about ?95 for the pair 
 
Happy rovering   
 
 
colin 
 
Kingsdown Garage 
Faringdon 
England  
 

> From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:47:00 -0700
> Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
> 
> 
> Has anyone in Canada had springs made for a 2000 TC?
> The local spring manufacturer in Edmonton will not do car springs.
> Thanks for any help.
> Roy
> 
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From renovations.plus at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 12 19:12:53 2012
From: renovations.plus at hotmail.com (Dennis .)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:12:53 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
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References: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-W41DAD114B82A8E2C55D94D957F0@phx.gbl>



 We have a spring works in saint john that I am quite sure would do car springs..if you like I can ask (or give you the #) but shipping may be the cost factor to consider.> From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:47:00 -0700
> Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
> 
> 
> Has anyone in Canada had springs made for a 2000 TC?
> The local spring manufacturer in Edmonton will not do car springs.
> Thanks for any help.
> Roy
> 
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From ve7axq at shaw.ca  Sun Feb 12 20:06:57 2012
From: ve7axq at shaw.ca (Rick Mellenger)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:06:57 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
In-Reply-To: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>
References: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <000301cce9f4$2a343ba0$7e9cb2e0$@shaw.ca>

The largest Spring maker in the west I think Is STANDEN SPRINGS  in Calgary.
I know they made all the parabolic springs for a long time for Land Rover
part supplier here in vancouver.
Here in Langley BC the branch is Called Pacific Spring. [ it is owned by
Standens. ] hope that will help. 
rick mellenger.

-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Roy Babiuk
Sent: February-12-12 12:47 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer


Has anyone in Canada had springs made for a 2000 TC?
The local spring manufacturer in Edmonton will not do car springs.
Thanks for any help.
Roy


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From james.moison at gmail.com  Sun Feb 12 22:45:24 2012
From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:45:24 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
In-Reply-To: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>
References: <E8214897-D8E4-4506-93FD-5D1517A1D459@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <CAA7GSQKKe2mFbfq2iuBq2fTQbfpVxxfw5Sh8vk6KMj1L2Fewnw@mail.gmail.com>

I had springs made for my TC by a manufacturer in the U.S.  Made to factory
specs.  I will have to look for the receipt because that was many years
ago.  But they were spot on, ground flat and all.
Jim

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Roy Babiuk <rababiuk at telusplanet.net>wrote:

>
> Has anyone in Canada had springs made for a 2000 TC?
> The local spring manufacturer in Edmonton will not do car springs.
> Thanks for any help.
> Roy
>
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From rababiuk at telusplanet.net  Mon Feb 13 07:35:43 2012
From: rababiuk at telusplanet.net (Roy Babiuk)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:35:43 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
Message-ID: <B6B00C3B-3715-4DD0-A786-AE9229C0FF9E@telusplanet.net>

Standens is not too far away to make shipping prohibitive.
I will contact them and see if they can do these springs.
If anyone else knows of a company, please add to list for backup if  
Standens cant make these.
Roy


From magnet at roverclub.org  Mon Feb 13 14:43:07 2012
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:43:07 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000TC radiator
Message-ID: <4F3975DB.6020802@roverclub.org>

Been doing a bit of pre-spring cleaning in the parts room --  found a 
2000TC radiator, looks to be in pretty good nick, has the chrome-plated 
cap, side expansion tank, and the two couplings (minus hoses) for the 
oil cooler.  It's of no use to me, but free to anyone who can use it.  
You collect (Aurora, Ontario) or I can probably bring it to Dirk's 
gathering in June.  Seems too good to take to the scrap metal tip.

Same is true for an SD-1 A/C compressor.

Cheers,

  -- Bill D.




From lafbery at telus.net  Mon Feb 13 16:29:27 2012
From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:29:27 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
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You can buy new springs from

https://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/index.asp



Standens is not too far away to make shipping prohibitive.
I will contact them and see if they can do these springs.
If anyone else knows of a company, please add to list for backup if  
Standens cant make these.
Roy

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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 14 13:08:05 2012
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:08:05 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] looking for spring manufacturer
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> Today's Topics:
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>    2. Re: looking for spring manufacturer (garrett bourque)
>    3. Re: looking for spring manufacturer (Colin Gould)
>    4. Re: looking for spring manufacturer (Dennis .)
>    5. Re: looking for spring manufacturer (Rick Mellenger)
>    6. Re: looking for spring manufacturer (james moison)
>    7. Re: looking for spring manufacturer (Roy Babiuk)
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> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
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> Has anyone in Canada had springs made for a 2000 TC?
> The local spring manufacturer in Edmonton will not do car springs.
> Thanks for any help.
> Roy

King springs from Australia do both front and back springs for the P6. The have a distributor in Oregon. The company's name is
Primitive Racing.   
Contact name: Paul 
Eklund
Ph: (503) 624 2139
www.get-primitive.com
 		 	   		  
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de  Thu Feb 16 11:36:21 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:36:21 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Australian P6 colour ?
References: <F2DCCB72-A055-43F3-8702-BC401E1B58F2@telusplanet.net>
Message-ID: <C0FE62AFCD3A4A00BB76F4893B6541D4@rw>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rob3500/6884219733/

Not lunar grey, but ...  ???

Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info



From peterhut at activ8.net.au  Fri Feb 17 17:45:29 2012
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:45:29 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Australian P6 colour ?
In-Reply-To: <C0FE62AFCD3A4A00BB76F4893B6541D4@rw>
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:36:21 +0100, you wrote:

>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/rob3500/6884219733/
>
>Not lunar grey, but ...  ???
>
Rudiger,

A group of us here in Oz and NZ are in the process of trying to come
to grips with the colours of P6s assembled out of NZ. Over Easter both
the Aust Rover Club and NZ Clubs are having a get together in their
respective countries, and we will be gathering data from the owners
and taking pics. Hope to have a pretty good db then of all the
"strange" colours.

Cheers,

Peter H


From peterhut at activ8.net.au  Fri Feb 17 18:29:31 2012
From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:29:31 +1100
Subject: [Rovernet ] Australian P6 colour ?
In-Reply-To: <3gptj7113vibevfu7qka4mcsbvp6bh3dlq@4ax.com>
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:45:29 +1100, you wrote:

>
>On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:36:21 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/rob3500/6884219733/
>>
>>Not lunar grey, but ...  ???

It is Ice Blue, and yes a NZ assembled car.

Cheers,

Peter H


From RoverP6 at gmx.de  Sat Feb 18 06:30:42 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:30:42 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 - cool pictures ^^
References: <F2DCCB72-A055-43F3-8702-BC401E1B58F2@telusplanet.net><C0FE62AFCD3A4A00BB76F4893B6541D4@rw><3gptj7113vibevfu7qka4mcsbvp6bh3dlq@4ax.com>
	<m5stj7hnb8sp1im045d7kps274g96k5i8h@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <6EE905779E2C4CFDBBFFDEEFA3684380@rw>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theycallmemuddy/4756132896/


Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info



From RoverP6 at gmx.de  Sat Feb 18 06:36:26 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:36:26 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] NADA 3500S
References: <F2DCCB72-A055-43F3-8702-BC401E1B58F2@telusplanet.net><C0FE62AFCD3A4A00BB76F4893B6541D4@rw><3gptj7113vibevfu7qka4mcsbvp6bh3dlq@4ax.com>
	<m5stj7hnb8sp1im045d7kps274g96k5i8h@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <E8CE1816279A4BE7B3879D54B86AC5A9@rw>


owner known ?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28796302 at N03/3545695010/


Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info



From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 18 11:44:29 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:44:29 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
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HiDoes anyone have successful suggestions regarding the use of valve shims from brands of motorcycle or other makes of car in a 2000 series P6?
The diameter of the Rover items is 12.7mm and a chunky thickness in the order of 8-9mm seems a normal requirement, two factors which nix many of the common types of motorcycle shim which seem to have smaller diameters and run to only very thin [e.g. 1.5mm] standard sizes.
Alternatively has anyone had success at having P6 shims made up by a engineering shop?
[I'm in the process of refurbing a cylinderhead after dropping a valve seat, hence the interest.  Incidentally next time you have your p6's original condition head off, consider getting the valve seats replaced.  Fortunately my #8 let go at idle; at motor way speed the engine damage would have been rather dire.]

 
 		 	   		  
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From james.moison at gmail.com  Sat Feb 18 14:45:42 2012
From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:45:42 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-W3617C09FE89E46ECA665CEB8600@phx.gbl>
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Just call Ruth Burgess in B.C. and get some to work with.  604-294-5747.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Richard Sharpe <trowzerkoff at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> HiDoes anyone have successful suggestions regarding the use of valve shims
> from brands of motorcycle or other makes of car in a 2000 series P6?
> The diameter of the Rover items is 12.7mm and a chunky thickness in the
> order of 8-9mm seems a normal requirement, two factors which nix many of
> the common types of motorcycle shim which seem to have smaller diameters
> and run to only very thin [e.g. 1.5mm] standard sizes.
> Alternatively has anyone had success at having P6 shims made up by a
> engineering shop?
> [I'm in the process of refurbing a cylinderhead after dropping a valve
> seat, hence the interest.  Incidentally next time you have your p6's
> original condition head off, consider getting the valve seats replaced.
>  Fortunately my #8 let go at idle; at motor way speed the engine damage
> would have been rather dire.]
>
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From j_radcliffe at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 18 18:31:29 2012
From: j_radcliffe at hotmail.com (James Radcliffe)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:31:29 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
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> From: Richard Sharpe <trowzerkoff at hotmail.com>
> To: rover net <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
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> 
> HiDoes anyone have successful suggestions regarding the use of valve shims from brands of motorcycle or other makes of car in a 2000 series P6?
> The diameter of the Rover items is 12.7mm and a chunky thickness in the order of 8-9mm seems a normal requirement, two factors which nix many of the common types of motorcycle shim which seem to have smaller diameters and run to only very thin [e.g. 1.5mm] standard sizes.
> Alternatively has anyone had success at having P6 shims made up by a engineering shop?
> [I'm in the process of refurbing a cylinderhead after dropping a valve seat, hence the interest.  Incidentally next time you have your p6's original condition head off, consider getting the valve seats replaced.  Fortunately my #8 let go at idle; at motor way speed the engine damage would have been rather dire.]
> 
>  
\

Kawasaki 650 motorcycle and some Mercedes benz motors from the late eighties used 13mm tappet shims which will fit, with some room for thermal expansion. Did your valve seat remain in one piece, or did it disintegrate.  I had a seat drop one time, and drove it for about 50 miles to get home. I was in Frankland Western Australia at the time. I rang up the Rover mechanic in Adelaide for advice. He asked "Does it rattle,"  which it did. I was told not to drive it, and his diagnosis was correct. The car returned from WA on the back of a semi trailer on top of bulka bags of wood chips!

I have an excel spread sheet to help with the shimming calculations. I also have about 130 different shims in my stock. I am in Upstate NY. Ruth Burgess at All British cars has a stock of shims as well. I can email it to you if you can use it.


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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 19 12:07:11 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:07:11 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
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HiThanks to everyone who replied to my email regarding valve shims.  I'm located in NZ - mixed blessing as regards those kind folk who offered shims from their private squirrel hoards - a very generous and much appreciated gesture.  I have a fairly large stock of shims - but mostly in the small and large sizes, few in the 6 to 8mm range.
The valve seat was evidently loose as I experienced a momentary misfire about a month beforehand that cleared up almost instantly - evidently this was the seat dropping down, hanging up the valve and then being forced back into place.  I thought nothing of it at the time. The second and final occasion was a repetition of the first accompanied by a sudden engine stall and lock up.  This took place with a hot engine at just above idling speed with no advance warning. On towing the car back to base and removing the head it was found that the inlet seat was out and shattered into multiple pieces.  One large shard was caught under the inlet valve and the remainder was in crushed into the #4 piston crown as well as lying on same in small fragments.  Smaller splinters were also found in the bowl of #3 piston.  [The inlet manifold will need to be thoroughly air blasted before reinstallation.]  #4 piston was the worst affected having a sizable dent on one side.  Fortunately it was possible to use a Dremel to remove this and smooth out all stress angles; since the engine rotates freely there is no evident conrod damage.  [Bringing the piston up to TDC and masking off the cylinder wall with Bostik presstik with masking tape and kitchen towels covering the rest of the engine block created an operating table type effect that prevented swarf getting where it should not.
I've made up a jig to set the valve gaps and shims up on the bench when the head comes back from the shop - this going to be much easier than trying to do it with the head back on the car like last time: that's the hope anyway.  I've written an Xcel spreadsheet for the shim calcs based on the standard formula for this: A = [B-C]+D where A = new shim, B = Recorded gap, C = Spec Gap, D = Old shim.
Bashed your ears long enough!CheersRichard

> From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:44:29 +0000
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
> 
> 
> 
> HiDoes anyone have successful suggestions regarding the use of valve shims from brands of motorcycle or other makes of car in a 2000 series P6?
> The diameter of the Rover items is 12.7mm and a chunky thickness in the order of 8-9mm seems a normal requirement, two factors which nix many of the common types of motorcycle shim which seem to have smaller diameters and run to only very thin [e.g. 1.5mm] standard sizes.
> Alternatively has anyone had success at having P6 shims made up by a engineering shop?
> [I'm in the process of refurbing a cylinderhead after dropping a valve seat, hence the interest.  Incidentally next time you have your p6's original condition head off, consider getting the valve seats replaced.  Fortunately my #8 let go at idle; at motor way speed the engine damage would have been rather dire.]
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From vern at inkspotco.com  Sun Feb 19 12:26:03 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:26:03 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
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 A bench jig makes things much much easier. When I was fixing P6s for money, Al Roberts had the factory fixture and it was a good thing, as they say. 

Just to be clear, you do have two shims under each tappet, right? A thick one and a thin one?

I've never seen a valve seat drop out of a head that had not be resurfaced at some point. There was a process we used to ask for (re-peening the seats? I can't remember) when we had a head surfaced to prevent it.

Yours
Vern

On 2012-02-19, at 10:07 AM, Richard Sharpe wrote:

> 
> 
> HiThanks to everyone who replied to my email regarding valve shims.  I'm located in NZ - mixed blessing as regards those kind folk who offered shims from their private squirrel hoards - a very generous and much appreciated gesture.  I have a fairly large stock of shims - but mostly in the small and large sizes, few in the 6 to 8mm range.
> The valve seat was evidently loose as I experienced a momentary misfire about a month beforehand that cleared up almost instantly - evidently this was the seat dropping down, hanging up the valve and then being forced back into place.  I thought nothing of it at the time. The second and final occasion was a repetition of the first accompanied by a sudden engine stall and lock up.  This took place with a hot engine at just above idling speed with no advance warning. On towing the car back to base and removing the head it was found that the inlet seat was out and shattered into multiple pieces.  One large shard was caught under the inlet valve and the remainder was in crushed into the #4 piston crown as well as lying on same in small fragments.  Smaller splinters were also found in the bowl of #3 piston.  [The inlet manifold will need to be thoroughly air blasted before reinstallation.]  #4 piston was the worst affected having a sizable dent on one side.  Fortunately it was pos
> sible to use a Dremel to remove this and smooth out all stress angles; since the engine rotates freely there is no evident conrod damage.  [Bringing the piston up to TDC and masking off the cylinder wall with Bostik presstik with masking tape and kitchen towels covering the rest of the engine block created an operating table type effect that prevented swarf getting where it should not.
> I've made up a jig to set the valve gaps and shims up on the bench when the head comes back from the shop - this going to be much easier than trying to do it with the head back on the car like last time: that's the hope anyway.  I've written an Xcel spreadsheet for the shim calcs based on the standard formula for this: A = [B-C]+D where A = new shim, B = Recorded gap, C = Spec Gap, D = Old shim.
> Bashed your ears long enough!CheersRichard
> 
>> From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:44:29 +0000
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> HiDoes anyone have successful suggestions regarding the use of valve shims from brands of motorcycle or other makes of car in a 2000 series P6?
>> The diameter of the Rover items is 12.7mm and a chunky thickness in the order of 8-9mm seems a normal requirement, two factors which nix many of the common types of motorcycle shim which seem to have smaller diameters and run to only very thin [e.g. 1.5mm] standard sizes.
>> Alternatively has anyone had success at having P6 shims made up by a engineering shop?
>> [I'm in the process of refurbing a cylinderhead after dropping a valve seat, hence the interest.  Incidentally next time you have your p6's original condition head off, consider getting the valve seats replaced.  Fortunately my #8 let go at idle; at motor way speed the engine damage would have been rather dire.]
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 20 11:10:00 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:10:00 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
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Hi VernCorrect on both counts.  One valve had two shims to get the clearance whilst all the others had one only.  [The gaps weren't perfect since I was restricted in the range of shims at my disposal, so what with unleaded petrol I erred on the side of making them slightly wider than spec.  The end result was a bit rattly but it ran fine for years.]   The move to a jig was prompted by my experience of trying to adjust valve clearances with the head on the car - what a pita!Yes - the head had been resurfaced in my ownership - but it's possible that this has been done more than once since the engine was probably on its third trip around the clock when I bought the car.  The last time the resurface was simply a light one to clean it up.  Good point - I've heard of peening the seats and will definitely ask about this at the engineering shop later this week.CheersRichard

> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:26:03 -0800
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
> 
> 
>  A bench jig makes things much much easier. When I was fixing P6s for money, Al Roberts had the factory fixture and it was a good thing, as they say. 
> 
> Just to be clear, you do have two shims under each tappet, right? A thick one and a thin one?
> 
> I've never seen a valve seat drop out of a head that had not be resurfaced at some point. There was a process we used to ask for (re-peening the seats? I can't remember) when we had a head surfaced to prevent it.
> 
> Yours
> Vern
> 
> On 2012-02-19, at 10:07 AM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > HiThanks to everyone who replied to my email regarding valve shims.  I'm located in NZ - mixed blessing as regards those kind folk who offered shims from their private squirrel hoards - a very generous and much appreciated gesture.  I have a fairly large stock of shims - but mostly in the small and large sizes, few in the 6 to 8mm range.
> > The valve seat was evidently loose as I experienced a momentary misfire about a month beforehand that cleared up almost instantly - evidently this was the seat dropping down, hanging up the valve and then being forced back into place.  I thought nothing of it at the time. The second and final occasion was a repetition of the first accompanied by a sudden engine stall and lock up.  This took place with a hot engine at just above idling speed with no advance warning. On towing the car back to base and removing the head it was found that the inlet seat was out and shattered into multiple pieces.  One large shard was caught under the inlet valve and the remainder was in crushed into the #4 piston crown as well as lying on same in small fragments.  Smaller splinters were also found in the bowl of #3 piston.  [The inlet manifold will need to be thoroughly air blasted before reinstallation.]  #4 piston was the worst affected having a sizable dent on one side.  Fortunately it was pos
> > sible to use a Dremel to remove this and smooth out all stress angles; since the engine rotates freely there is no evident conrod damage.  [Bringing the piston up to TDC and masking off the cylinder wall with Bostik presstik with masking tape and kitchen towels covering the rest of the engine block created an operating table type effect that prevented swarf getting where it should not.
> > I've made up a jig to set the valve gaps and shims up on the bench when the head comes back from the shop - this going to be much easier than trying to do it with the head back on the car like last time: that's the hope anyway.  I've written an Xcel spreadsheet for the shim calcs based on the standard formula for this: A = [B-C]+D where A = new shim, B = Recorded gap, C = Spec Gap, D = Old shim.
> > Bashed your ears long enough!CheersRichard
> > 
> >> From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:44:29 +0000
> >> Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P6 2000 Series - valve/tappet shims
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> HiDoes anyone have successful suggestions regarding the use of valve shims from brands of motorcycle or other makes of car in a 2000 series P6?
> >> The diameter of the Rover items is 12.7mm and a chunky thickness in the order of 8-9mm seems a normal requirement, two factors which nix many of the common types of motorcycle shim which seem to have smaller diameters and run to only very thin [e.g. 1.5mm] standard sizes.
> >> Alternatively has anyone had success at having P6 shims made up by a engineering shop?
> >> [I'm in the process of refurbing a cylinderhead after dropping a valve seat, hence the interest.  Incidentally next time you have your p6's original condition head off, consider getting the valve seats replaced.  Fortunately my #8 let go at idle; at motor way speed the engine damage would have been rather dire.]
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From aboasberg at webtv.net  Tue Feb 21 09:30:58 2012
From: aboasberg at webtv.net (Albert Boasberg)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:30:58 GMT
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1969 Rover 2000 TC
Message-ID: <BLU160-ds18328662B666E66EF6C2DBB5670@phx.gbl>

I am looking for rear seat belts for this car and would appreciate all suggestions.

Thanks.

Albert.




From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 21 11:09:51 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:09:51 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1969 Rover 2000 TC
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My car has simple static lap straps [for 3 passengers] in the rear.  Two of them are aftermarkets and one was taken from a scrapped Holden sedan.  Fitted by a PO.
[The two fronts were factory original single diagonals - an absolutely useless design - which were replaced on a DIY basis by static three pointers.] 

> From: aboasberg at webtv.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:30:58 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] 1969 Rover 2000 TC
> 
> 
> I am looking for rear seat belts for this car and would appreciate all suggestions.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Albert.
> 
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From gbbourque at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 11:13:55 2012
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:13:55 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] 1969 Rover 2000 TC
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Hello Albert and Rovernet,
  I have saved belts and hardware from several cars.  They would be the
origianl style that the cars came with.  I should be able to help you with
what you need.  Please look for a message directly to you as well.
Sincerely,
Garrett Bourque

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Albert Boasberg <aboasberg at webtv.net>wrote:

>
> I am looking for rear seat belts for this car and would appreciate all
> suggestions.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Albert.
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com  Tue Feb 21 11:20:53 2012
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:20:53 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] R:  1969 Rover 2000 TC
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Mine has also static ones, and the one in the middle is an aeronautic model, two points.

Ciao, best regards, GR.

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Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di garrett bourque
Inviato: marted? 21 febbraio 2012 18.14
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] 1969 Rover 2000 TC


Hello Albert and Rovernet,
  I have saved belts and hardware from several cars.  They would be the
origianl style that the cars came with.  I should be able to help you with
what you need.  Please look for a message directly to you as well.
Sincerely,
Garrett Bourque

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Albert Boasberg <aboasberg at webtv.net>wrote:

>
> I am looking for rear seat belts for this car and would appreciate all
> suggestions.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Albert.
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From tom at rymes.net  Tue Feb 21 11:37:18 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:37:18 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Seatbelts - WAS: Re:  1969 Rover 2000 TC
In-Reply-To: <CAJBLATQ_ZA1PyWVmMtzTH+WnQQtUuAZxXM3iPEQXjx2TURRuCQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 02/21/2012 12:13 PM, garrett bourque wrote:
> Hello Albert and Rovernet,
>    I have saved belts and hardware from several cars.  They would be the
> origianl style that the cars came with.  I should be able to help you with
> what you need.  Please look for a message directly to you as well.
> Sincerely,
> Garrett Bourque

If you're looking for new belts, I have used these people before with 
good results: http://www.gotbelts.com/

If you have old belts, I recommend that you have them rewebbed, as old 
webbing may have degraded over the years.  I have heard good things 
about these folks: http://www.ssnake-oyl.com

Tom



From irishrover1 at live.com  Tue Feb 21 12:59:17 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:59:17 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Hand Brake
Message-ID: <COL111-W627BC06344890D89BBE00487670@phx.gbl>


Hi Folks
          The hand brake on my 1961 Rover P4 is only working on the right wheel. All the rods back to rear axle work. At the rear axle there is a swivel that is supposed to pull both brake rods to each wheel. The rod on the right pulls the brake on but not on the left. Left is the shorter rod, I took it off and adjusted it to make it shorter, but still didn't work Any ideas??? Its not the wheel cylinders the two pullers that connect to rods work fine.
                              Cheers Ben (irishrover)

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From vern at inkspotco.com  Tue Feb 21 14:01:48 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:01:48 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Hand Brake
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Seized pivot at that swivel?

Yours
Vern


On 2012-02-21, at 10:59 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Folks
>          The hand brake on my 1961 Rover P4 is only working on the right wheel. All the rods back to rear axle work. At the rear axle there is a swivel that is supposed to pull both brake rods to each wheel. The rod on the right pulls the brake on but not on the left. Left is the shorter rod, I took it off and adjusted it to make it shorter, but still didn't work Any ideas??? Its not the wheel cylinders the two pullers that connect to rods work fine.
>                              Cheers Ben (irishrover)
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From bsaunders at firstva.com  Tue Feb 21 15:52:52 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:52:52 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Hand Brake
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Make sure that the shoes are adjusted correctly on both sides and that the
slide plates and rollers in the wheel cylinder are not frozen. Give me a
call if you still have a problem. 434-842-3667
Ben  

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Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:59 PM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Hand Brake



Hi Folks
          The hand brake on my 1961 Rover P4 is only working on the right
wheel. All the rods back to rear axle work. At the rear axle there is a
swivel that is supposed to pull both brake rods to each wheel. The rod on
the right pulls the brake on but not on the left. Left is the shorter rod, I
took it off and adjusted it to make it shorter, but still didn't work Any
ideas??? Its not the wheel cylinders the two pullers that connect to rods
work fine.
                              Cheers Ben (irishrover)

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From irishrover1 at live.com  Tue Feb 21 18:22:47 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:22:47 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Hand Brake
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Hi Ben
         I have already checked all those items and they work and are adjusted properly. I'm going to check the rear swivel arm next.
                                         Ben

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> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:52:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] P4 Hand Brake
> 
> 
> Make sure that the shoes are adjusted correctly on both sides and that the
> slide plates and rollers in the wheel cylinder are not frozen. Give me a
> call if you still have a problem. 434-842-3667
> Ben  
> 
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> Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:59 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Hand Brake
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Folks
>           The hand brake on my 1961 Rover P4 is only working on the right
> wheel. All the rods back to rear axle work. At the rear axle there is a
> swivel that is supposed to pull both brake rods to each wheel. The rod on
> the right pulls the brake on but not on the left. Left is the shorter rod, I
> took it off and adjusted it to make it shorter, but still didn't work Any
> ideas??? Its not the wheel cylinders the two pullers that connect to rods
> work fine.
>                               Cheers Ben (irishrover)
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 21 23:57:59 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:57:59 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Hand Brake
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The old time vintage car guys have a routine for adjusting mechanical rod brakes.  I can't remember exactly but you either start at the hand lever [foot brake] and work back to the wheels or vice-versa in a systematic way - random adjustments of individual rods get everything in real old tizzwozz.  Might be worth doing a google to see what's out there on the general subject.
Agreed with the other posters - assuming the cylinders are free on the back plate, the one pivot's probably a bit sticky.  A dousing in CRC should free it up enough to get it all apart for a clean and grease.  [Note that P4 and P5 handbrakes have  a nasty tendency to lock on when the car is not used regularly - esp during a spell of damp weather - causing one or both back wheels to cook even on a short run.  For this reason, my habit is to leave my P4 with the handbrake off in the garage - simply chocking the car and popping the gearlever into 1st for storage.  Checking the wheel temps after a short run for a hot locked brake is also SOP.]

> From: irishrover1 at live.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:59:17 -0300
> Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 Hand Brake
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Folks
>           The hand brake on my 1961 Rover P4 is only working on the right wheel. All the rods back to rear axle work. At the rear axle there is a swivel that is supposed to pull both brake rods to each wheel. The rod on the right pulls the brake on but not on the left. Left is the shorter rod, I took it off and adjusted it to make it shorter, but still didn't work Any ideas??? Its not the wheel cylinders the two pullers that connect to rods work fine.
>                               Cheers Ben (irishrover)
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From tom at rymes.net  Thu Feb 23 09:47:56 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:47:56 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Nice looking SD1 for sale in Victoria, BC Area - $1, 100
Message-ID: <4F465FAC.2080600@rymes.net>

Paint looks scruffy, but the interior looks good.

http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/1980-Land-Rover-Rover-3500-SD1_16705833


From tom at rymes.net  Thu Feb 23 09:51:15 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:51:15 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 200TC in BC - $3,500
Message-ID: <4F466073.8000703@rymes.net>

This looks like it might be in good shape. Worth a look!

http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/196768--Rover-P6-2000-TC-_16484396


From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu  Thu Feb 23 12:14:07 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:14:07 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 200TC in BC - $3,500
In-Reply-To: <4F466073.8000703@rymes.net>
References: <4F466073.8000703@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <4F4681EF.8090107@alum.swarthmore.edu>

I would be very cautious about this one -- the engine bay photo is of a 
Zircon Blue car.  The white and blue car looks great in the main photo, 
but how long ago was this photo taken?

On 2/23/2012 10:51 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> This looks like it might be in good shape. Worth a look!
>
> http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/196768--Rover-P6-2000-TC-_16484396 
>
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From tom at rymes.net  Thu Feb 23 12:17:59 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:17:59 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 200TC in BC - $3,500
In-Reply-To: <4F4681EF.8090107@alum.swarthmore.edu>
References: <4F466073.8000703@rymes.net> <4F4681EF.8090107@alum.swarthmore.edu>
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, S Manwell <s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu>wrote:

>
> I would be very cautious about this one -- the engine bay photo is of a
> Zircon Blue car.  The white and blue car looks great in the main photo, but
> how long ago was this photo taken?
>

Yes, those photos look like stock photos. If you're in the area, though, it
might pan out. Sometimes non-tech-savvy sellers do that. Of course,
sometimes they do that because their car is a wreck, too.

YMMV

Tom
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From p4roverman at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 23 18:08:09 2012
From: p4roverman at yahoo.com (Rover Man)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:08:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] p4 105R piston rings?
Message-ID: <1330042089.4557.YahooMailNeo@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

p4 105R piston rings
anyone has a new or used piston rings for a P4 Rover 105R, iam in need of just one single ring that is on the very top of the piston.
iam trying to get the car back up and running again. located in California.
Nelson O'Riley
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From lafbery at telus.net  Thu Feb 23 18:27:11 2012
From: lafbery at telus.net (Barry & Shirley Lafbery)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:27:11 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] p4 105R piston rings?
In-Reply-To: <1330042089.4557.YahooMailNeo@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1330042089.4557.YahooMailNeo@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <031C1034F01A49B1B3807C695A61052B@BarryPC>

Hi, Nelson
   You can try this company, they are in California, I got my P3 rings 
there. They make them to order.


http://www.deves.com/


Barry
P2
P3


p4 105R piston rings
anyone has a new or used piston rings for a P4 Rover 105R, iam in need of 
just one single ring that is on the very top of the piston.
iam trying to get the car back up and running again. located in California.
Nelson O'Riley
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From irishrover1 at live.com  Thu Feb 23 18:41:40 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:41:40 -0300
Subject: [Rovernet ] p4 105R piston rings?
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Hi Nelson
            We haven't talked for ages, I have some new rings here for a P4 -75, Not sure they would be same size as the R105??? I can mail you one if you want to give it a try.
                                  Cheers Ben (irishrover)

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> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:08:09 -0800
> From: p4roverman at yahoo.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] p4 105R piston rings?
> 
> 
> p4 105R piston rings
> anyone has a new or used piston rings for a P4 Rover 105R, iam in need of just one single ring that is on the very top of the piston.
> iam trying to get the car back up and running again. located in California.
> Nelson O'Riley
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From rovermanp6 at frontier.com  Fri Feb 24 05:30:08 2012
From: rovermanp6 at frontier.com (rovermanp6 at frontier.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:30:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover 4.6 v8
Message-ID: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

hello rover netters 

l am thinking of buying a 1999 range rover HSE 4.6 
the price is too good to turn down what kind of gas milage do these get 
l know this is for rover cars but some of you must owne or know 
thanks much pete


From tom at rymes.net  Fri Feb 24 06:26:06 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:26:06 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover 4.6 v8
In-Reply-To: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <99939634-1DC1-4D9C-B470-0FD2D8584385@rymes.net>

Pete: if you have to ask, you don't want to know!

I think that the EPA's website should list the Range Rover's mileage numbers.

Tom

On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:30 AM, rovermanp6 at frontier.com wrote:

> 
> hello rover netters 
> 
> l am thinking of buying a 1999 range rover HSE 4.6 
> the price is too good to turn down what kind of gas milage do these get 
> l know this is for rover cars but some of you must owne or know 
> thanks much pete
> 
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From magnet at roverclub.org  Fri Feb 24 06:32:30 2012
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:32:30 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover 4.6 v8
In-Reply-To: <99939634-1DC1-4D9C-B470-0FD2D8584385@rymes.net>
References: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<99939634-1DC1-4D9C-B470-0FD2D8584385@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <4F47835E.6020901@roverclub.org>

Hi Pete,

I put a 4.6 into my 1993 RR County LWB in place of the original 4.2.  
Driving around town, I get about 13 miles per (US) gallon.  It does a 
bit better on trips, when the car stays mainly in top gear.

Cheers,

  -- Bill Daddis

=======================================================================


On 24-Feb-12 7:26 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
> Pete: if you have to ask, you don't want to know!
>
> I think that the EPA's website should list the Range Rover's mileage numbers.
>
> Tom
>
> On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:30 AM, rovermanp6 at frontier.com wrote:
>
>> hello rover netters
>>
>> l am thinking of buying a 1999 range rover HSE 4.6
>> the price is too good to turn down what kind of gas milage do these get
>> l know this is for rover cars but some of you must owne or know
>> thanks much pete
>>
>> **************************************
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From britishrover at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 06:49:24 2012
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:49:24 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover 4.6 v8
In-Reply-To: <4F47835E.6020901@roverclub.org>
References: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<99939634-1DC1-4D9C-B470-0FD2D8584385@rymes.net>
	<4F47835E.6020901@roverclub.org>
Message-ID: <CAKQjg_RdYqLBemUTN5TCS1xBwD=juEU12rT0yCS1mwewv2Cb6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmm, nice style Range Rover, but that model looks alot like to be
mistaken for a Ford Explorer?

On 2/24/12, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Pete,
>
> I put a 4.6 into my 1993 RR County LWB in place of the original 4.2.
> Driving around town, I get about 13 miles per (US) gallon.  It does a
> bit better on trips, when the car stays mainly in top gear.
>
> Cheers,
>
>   -- Bill Daddis
>
> =======================================================================
>
>
> On 24-Feb-12 7:26 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>> Pete: if you have to ask, you don't want to know!
>>
>> I think that the EPA's website should list the Range Rover's mileage
>> numbers.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:30 AM, rovermanp6 at frontier.com wrote:
>>
>>> hello rover netters
>>>
>>> l am thinking of buying a 1999 range rover HSE 4.6
>>> the price is too good to turn down what kind of gas milage do these get
>>> l know this is for rover cars but some of you must owne or know
>>> thanks much pete
>>>
>>> **************************************
>>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>>
>> **************************************
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>
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From britishrover at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 06:51:40 2012
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:51:40 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover 4.6 v8
In-Reply-To: <CAKQjg_RdYqLBemUTN5TCS1xBwD=juEU12rT0yCS1mwewv2Cb6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<99939634-1DC1-4D9C-B470-0FD2D8584385@rymes.net>
	<4F47835E.6020901@roverclub.org>
	<CAKQjg_RdYqLBemUTN5TCS1xBwD=juEU12rT0yCS1mwewv2Cb6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKQjg_R9qCzopi8vs6p=AvZ3LY=A_QkNJ_uvC9kiXQVFr1UurA@mail.gmail.com>

..Sorry, had ro Jest, no disrespect intended....

On 2/24/12, British Rover <britishrover at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm, nice style Range Rover, but that model looks alot like to be
> mistaken for a Ford Explorer?
>
> On 2/24/12, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pete,
>>
>> I put a 4.6 into my 1993 RR County LWB in place of the original 4.2.
>> Driving around town, I get about 13 miles per (US) gallon.  It does a
>> bit better on trips, when the car stays mainly in top gear.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>   -- Bill Daddis
>>
>> =======================================================================
>>
>>
>> On 24-Feb-12 7:26 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>>> Pete: if you have to ask, you don't want to know!
>>>
>>> I think that the EPA's website should list the Range Rover's mileage
>>> numbers.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:30 AM, rovermanp6 at frontier.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> hello rover netters
>>>>
>>>> l am thinking of buying a 1999 range rover HSE 4.6
>>>> the price is too good to turn down what kind of gas milage do these get
>>>> l know this is for rover cars but some of you must owne or know
>>>> thanks much pete
>>>>
>>>> **************************************
>>>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>>>
>>> **************************************
>>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>>
>>
>>
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>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
>


From bsaunders at firstva.com  Fri Feb 24 07:07:07 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:07:07 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover 4.6 v8
In-Reply-To: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <2810F16F064F4D4E8DC3DA320904EE0F@SD1>

Pete,
I have seen many of these at very low prices so that too should tell you
something. Keep in mind that the 4.6 needs high test only as well and that
the P38 is an electrical nightmare. I have a friend that is a factory
trained Land Rover mechanic and he has advised me to never touch one. If you
are interested in a 1999 Disco II for a cheap price get back to me soon.
Ben 

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Subject: [Rovernet ] rover 4.6 v8


hello rover netters 

l am thinking of buying a 1999 range rover HSE 4.6 the price is too good to
turn down what kind of gas milage do these get l know this is for rover cars
but some of you must owne or know thanks much pete

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From smokeandsteam at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 11:18:38 2012
From: smokeandsteam at gmail.com (Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:18:38 +1300
Subject: [Rovernet ] rover 4.6 v8
In-Reply-To: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <300351922.955823.1330083008582.JavaMail.root@cl05-host02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <6EC8035A-D239-43CC-88B3-AE8C61E371FF@gmail.com>

Several things to watch out for here.

If the price is too good to resist it probably means that there are some issues that can end up costing a lot of money on very short order. A good Rangie of this vintage is a nice car, but far too many are on their fourth or fifth owner and show signs of a lot of deferred maintenance 

 - Yes it will be thirsty 15-16 mpg highway and 12-13 round town is a realistic expectation
 - Electrical gremlins and fuel/induction system hiccups are common 
 - The air springs fail and are going to run to mucho $$$$ to replace - may old P38 owners have converted to coils instead 
 - The 4.6 block in particular can suffer from slipped liners - repairable but even more $$$$. This problem is usually evidence by a ticking/tapping noise and is sometimes accompanied by ongoing coolant loss. 
 - The usual warnings about engine oil changes for any Rover V8 apply; if the oil is black and gooey run away


Hope this helps

Aidrian



From tom at rymes.net  Tue Feb 28 08:05:18 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:05:18 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
Message-ID: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>

Hi there, folks. I was wondering if anyone out there has one of the 
original metal tubes that was used on the 3-Litre P5s to route the spark 
plug wires along the top of the engine? My car has one from a 6-cylinder 
BMW, which really doesn't look the part.

Many thanks,

Tom


From kkinard at att.net  Tue Feb 28 10:49:08 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:49:08 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <4F4D0584.4060603@att.net>

Hi Tom,
I don't think they are metal...something more akin to cardboard. I have 
some for P6, but they are too short for P5.
Roverly,
Kent K.

Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> Hi there, folks. I was wondering if anyone out there has one of the 
> original metal tubes that was used on the 3-Litre P5s to route the 
> spark plug wires along the top of the engine? My car has one from a 
> 6-cylinder BMW, which really doesn't look the part.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Tom
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 28 11:16:41 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:16:41 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>


They were made of ordinary stiff cardboard.  An industrial packaging supplier or office supply outfit should be able to come up with something that can be cut, drilled and painted into an almost perfect repro.

> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:05:18 -0500
> From: tom at rymes.net
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
> 
> 
> Hi there, folks. I was wondering if anyone out there has one of the 
> original metal tubes that was used on the 3-Litre P5s to route the spark 
> plug wires along the top of the engine? My car has one from a 6-cylinder 
> BMW, which really doesn't look the part.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Tom
> 
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From magnet at roverclub.org  Tue Feb 28 11:53:56 2012
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:53:56 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>
	<BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4F4D14B4.2070404@roverclub.org>

I made one for my P4 from grey plastic electrical conduit.  It comes in 
a size with an OD of about an inch, and can be drilled and cut quite 
easily to make the oblong holes for the wires.  Painted satin black it 
looks identical to the original  (which on my car had been red 
fibreboard, painted black).  You can get the conduit at Home Depot, and 
such like places.

Cheers,

  -- Bill D.

=======================================================================

On 28-Feb-12 12:16 PM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
>
> They were made of ordinary stiff cardboard.  An industrial packaging supplier or office supply outfit should be able to come up with something that can be cut, drilled and painted into an almost perfect repro.
>
>> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:05:18 -0500
>> From: tom at rymes.net
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
>> Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
>>
>>
>> Hi there, folks. I was wondering if anyone out there has one of the
>> original metal tubes that was used on the 3-Litre P5s to route the spark
>> plug wires along the top of the engine? My car has one from a 6-cylinder
>> BMW, which really doesn't look the part.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Tom



From tom at rymes.net  Tue Feb 28 11:56:54 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:56:54 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>
	<BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>

So, then, this picture is not stock? 

http://www.eppingmotorcompany.com/stock/page2/1962%20Rover%20P5%203-Litre%20saloon/1962%20Rover%20P5%203%20Litre%209%20Engine.JPG

Tom

On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Richard Sharpe <trowzerkoff at hotmail.com> wrote:

> They were made of ordinary stiff cardboard.  An industrial packaging supplier or office supply outfit should be able to come up with something that can be cut, drilled and painted into an almost perfect repro.


From magnet at roverclub.org  Tue Feb 28 12:29:35 2012
From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:29:35 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>	<BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>
	<7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <4F4D1D0F.80303@roverclub.org>

Not having a lot of familiarity with P5s, I can't say, but putting the 
HT wires inside an earthed metal tube doesn't sound like an awfully good 
idea...

  -- Bill



On 28-Feb-12 12:56 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
> So, then, this picture is not stock?
>
> http://www.eppingmotorcompany.com/stock/page2/1962%20Rover%20P5%203-Litre%20saloon/1962%20Rover%20P5%203%20Litre%209%20Engine.JPG
>
> Tom
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Richard Sharpe<trowzerkoff at hotmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> They were made of ordinary stiff cardboard.  An industrial packaging supplier or office supply outfit should be able to come up with something that can be cut, drilled and painted into an almost perfect repro.
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
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From tom at rymes.net  Tue Feb 28 12:56:44 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:56:44 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <4F4D1D0F.80303@roverclub.org>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>	<BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>
	<7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>
	<4F4D1D0F.80303@roverclub.org>
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On 02/28/2012 1:29 PM, Magnet wrote:
>
> Not having a lot of familiarity with P5s, I can't say, but putting the 
> HT wires inside an earthed metal tube doesn't sound like an awfully 
> good idea...
>
>  -- Bill

Funny that you mention that, because I had a facepalm moment right after 
sending that. "Why would they use fiberboard? Oh...Duh!"

Sounds like I will be having some fun with the Dremel and some plastic 
conduit this spring!

Thanks for the help, guys.

Tom


From adrian.mcdonald at live.com  Tue Feb 28 13:03:05 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:05 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BLU154-W9D3F8AF428A2D7558CF0E9E6E0@phx.gbl>

Easy ways to make money from home
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From vern at inkspotco.com  Tue Feb 28 13:12:58 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:12:58 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <4F4D236C.5060509@rymes.net>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>	<BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>
	<7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>
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Message-ID: <8CC87E16-3BDD-4F5E-9B1B-E8FE423884CD@inkspotco.com>

One reason for putting HT inside a metal tube would be RF noise suppression.

Yours
Vern


On 2012-02-28, at 10:56 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:

> 
> On 02/28/2012 1:29 PM, Magnet wrote:
>> 
>> Not having a lot of familiarity with P5s, I can't say, but putting the HT wires inside an earthed metal tube doesn't sound like an awfully good idea...
>> 
>> -- Bill
> 
> Funny that you mention that, because I had a facepalm moment right after sending that. "Why would they use fiberboard? Oh...Duh!"
> 
> Sounds like I will be having some fun with the Dremel and some plastic conduit this spring!
> 
> Thanks for the help, guys.
> 
> Tom
> 
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> 

Inkspot Type & Design	250 864 5619	in at inkspotco.com






From kkinard at att.net  Tue Feb 28 13:25:00 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:25:00 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>	<BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>
	<7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <4F4D2A0C.60708@att.net>

Nope.

Tom Rymes wrote:
> So, then, this picture is not stock?
>
> http://www.eppingmotorcompany.com/stock/page2/1962%20Rover%20P5%203-Litre%20saloon/1962%20Rover%20P5%203%20Litre%209%20Engine.JPG
>
> Tom
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Richard Sharpe<trowzerkoff at hotmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> They were made of ordinary stiff cardboard.  An industrial packaging supplier or office supply outfit should be able to come up with something that can be cut, drilled and painted into an almost perfect repro.
>>      
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
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>
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From p4roverman at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 28 16:21:45 2012
From: p4roverman at yahoo.com (Rover Man)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:21:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Rovernet ] p4 Rover piston rings
Message-ID: <1330467705.79775.YahooMailNeo@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

iam in need of piston rings new or used for my P4 Rover 105R ,does anyone have them for me? thanks Nelson
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From gbbourque at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 19:52:17 2012
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:52:17 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <4F4D236C.5060509@rymes.net>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>
	<BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>
	<7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>
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Message-ID: <CAJBLATRKL=Ch4n86V0n1shSiTbOP5LhVgk0r9MS+hyLYW8by3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Tom,
  If you are still looking for the conduit for the plug wires, check out
from an internet photo what is used on a 1960s Jaguar engine.  It is flat
black colored fiberboard and probably looks about the same as what you are
after, although you may have to move the mounting bolt locations to suit
your engine.  I have a couple of these nearly new reproduced Jaguar tubes.
  I also have a number of partial gasket sets, new old stock for 6 cylinder
Rover 3 litre cars.  These are head and possibly engine gasket sets.  If
you could use them, contact me on my email address and I'll make up a more
detailed list of what the gaskets are.
Sincerely,
Garrett Bourque
GB Services Auto Restoration
Jefferson, Maine
gbbourque at gmail.com
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net> wrote:

>
> On 02/28/2012 1:29 PM, Magnet wrote:
>
>>
>> Not having a lot of familiarity with P5s, I can't say, but putting the HT
>> wires inside an earthed metal tube doesn't sound like an awfully good
>> idea...
>>
>>  -- Bill
>>
>
> Funny that you mention that, because I had a facepalm moment right after
> sending that. "Why would they use fiberboard? Oh...Duh!"
>
> Sounds like I will be having some fun with the Dremel and some plastic
> conduit this spring!
>
> Thanks for the help, guys.
>
> Tom
>
> ****************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/Rover_net/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/>
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From bsaunders at firstva.com  Tue Feb 28 20:28:32 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:28:32 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] p4 Rover piston rings
In-Reply-To: <1330467705.79775.YahooMailNeo@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1330467705.79775.YahooMailNeo@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E9BE5CCD5510464FABF0232D8CECE53E@SD1>

Look on Ebay UK. 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:22 PM
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iam in need of piston rings new or used for my P4 Rover 105R ,does anyone
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com  Wed Feb 29 11:24:33 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:24:33 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] ReReRe:
Message-ID: <BLU154-W18128C8CE5CA60A85617C99E6F0@phx.gbl>

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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 29 12:17:43 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:17:43 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <8CC87E16-3BDD-4F5E-9B1B-E8FE423884CD@inkspotco.com>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>
	<BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>,
	<7B965AEB-C9E0-4E2F-A70F-115A792D4334@rymes.net>,
	<4F4D1D0F.80303@roverclub.org> <4F4D236C.5060509@rymes.net>,
	<8CC87E16-3BDD-4F5E-9B1B-E8FE423884CD@inkspotco.com>
Message-ID: <BLU157-W18CF0C0CDD4A1C995384F4B86F0@phx.gbl>


When radio interference legislation came on in the 1950's, Rover tried getting around this problem by fitting supressors to each plug lead.  These were small round black bakelite items made by the UK stove company Belling and which screwed into the normal plug caps covering each spark plug.  They might have worked when new, but as they aged they broke down inside and all but quenched the ignition spark at peak load leading to a dramatic loss of engine performance and oiled up spark plugs.  Any P4/5 owners with these strange items still fitted should consider binning them asap - and enjoying an instant extra 15+ horsepower. 

> From: vern at inkspotco.com
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:12:58 -0800
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
> 
> 
> One reason for putting HT inside a metal tube would be RF noise suppression.
> 
> Yours
> Vern
> 
> 
> On 2012-02-28, at 10:56 AM, Tom Rymes wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On 02/28/2012 1:29 PM, Magnet wrote:
> >> 
> >> Not having a lot of familiarity with P5s, I can't say, but putting the HT wires inside an earthed metal tube doesn't sound like an awfully good idea...
> >> 
> >> -- Bill
> > 
> > Funny that you mention that, because I had a facepalm moment right after sending that. "Why would they use fiberboard? Oh...Duh!"
> > 
> > Sounds like I will be having some fun with the Dremel and some plastic conduit this spring!
> > 
> > Thanks for the help, guys.
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > **************************************
> > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> > 
> 
> Inkspot Type & Design	250 864 5619	in at inkspotco.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> **************************************
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 29 12:18:54 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:18:54 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
In-Reply-To: <4F4D14B4.2070404@roverclub.org>
References: <4F4CDF1E.40306@rymes.net>,
	<BLU157-W89C73931373FAC4CD4A1CB86E0@phx.gbl>,
	<4F4D14B4.2070404@roverclub.org>
Message-ID: <BLU157-W1007B31E37F909B8E5F60FB86F0@phx.gbl>


Excellent idea Bill.

> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:53:56 -0500
> From: magnet at roverclub.org
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
> 
> 
> I made one for my P4 from grey plastic electrical conduit.  It comes in 
> a size with an OD of about an inch, and can be drilled and cut quite 
> easily to make the oblong holes for the wires.  Painted satin black it 
> looks identical to the original  (which on my car had been red 
> fibreboard, painted black).  You can get the conduit at Home Depot, and 
> such like places.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>   -- Bill D.
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> On 28-Feb-12 12:16 PM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
> >
> > They were made of ordinary stiff cardboard.  An industrial packaging supplier or office supply outfit should be able to come up with something that can be cut, drilled and painted into an almost perfect repro.
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:05:18 -0500
> >> From: tom at rymes.net
> >> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> >> Subject: [Rovernet ] Plug wire keeper for P5
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi there, folks. I was wondering if anyone out there has one of the
> >> original metal tubes that was used on the 3-Litre P5s to route the spark
> >> plug wires along the top of the engine? My car has one from a 6-cylinder
> >> BMW, which really doesn't look the part.
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >>
> >> Tom
> 
> 
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 29 12:24:40 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:24:40 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] p4 Rover piston rings
In-Reply-To: <1330467705.79775.YahooMailNeo@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1330467705.79775.YahooMailNeo@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU157-W5094340677DEEB60503C38B86F0@phx.gbl>


http://www.hastingsmfg.com/Master_Catalog_Pdfs/P11-218.pdf 

> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:21:45 -0800
> From: p4roverman at yahoo.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] p4 Rover piston rings
> 
> 
> iam in need of piston rings new or used for my P4 Rover 105R ,does anyone have them for me? thanks Nelson
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From Mark.Clark at oit.edu  Wed Feb 29 18:52:19 2012
From: Mark.Clark at oit.edu (Mark Clark)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:52:19 -0800
Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover P4 Piston Rings
Message-ID: <8CC32141E8BE6448B098DFE65DFC5E820378E5D0B7@Techmail2.oit.edu>

I'd suggest you contact J R Wadhams in the UK - they stock p4 parts, including engine parts.

https://www.jrwadhams.co.uk/Index.asp

Dr. Mark Clark
Professor of History
Oregon Institute of Technology
Klamath Falls, Oregon, USA