>
From irishrover1 at live.com Tue May 1 04:15:01 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 07:15:01 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] My Newfoundland Trip
Message-ID: <COL111-W777B6BB3E687776ACC8C287290@phx.gbl>
Hi Folks
I have just returned from a ten day trip around Newfoundland, and naturally I searched for Rovers. I spotted several Landies most appeared to be in daily use. My one rare find was a 1957 Rover 105R, sadly this car is beyond help, but has lots of good parts. I now have a complete slid in tool drawer. The owner said he drove the car in to where I found it, the engine ran smoothly and the Roverdrive Trans seemed to work fine. I was tempted to make an offer for the whole car, but its in such a remote part of Province the cost of getting it out would be prohibitive. Nevertheless, it was an exciting find and I can maybe go back sometime later for more parts. Didn't come across too much else of interest, a hard top TR7 and an airport Karrier truck (Rootes Group) with stairs for loading and unloading passengers. Time now to take my Rover for a drive with her re-chromed front overriders!!!once I install them!
Cheers Ben (irishrover)
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From gbbourque at gmail.com Tue May 1 11:52:09 2012
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:52:09 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] My Newfoundland Trip
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Hello Ben and Rovernet,
Good on you all!! Newfoundland is a facinating place. My mother's
parents, my grandparents, are both from there. They left the southeast
corner, near St. John's in the 1930s and emigrated to the Boston area in
the USA. My grandfather worked in the ocean fishing industry, both under
sail and under power.
He resettled in Boston and worked out of Boston and Gloucester, either
as a harbor pilot or on various fishing boats, between the 40s and the late
60s, when he retired.
I was able to visit Newfoundland's west coast, and the Labrador coast,
in the mid 90s, while I was giving a group of college students a guided
tour. We visited some of the more signifigant Native North American sites
there. We also visited North America's only verified NORSE occupied site,
now a reconstructed village museum, and a World Heritage Site. Hint Hint,
Rovers,,,Viking ships, norse helmets, etc!!!!! This is called L'Anse Aux
Medows. It is well worth visiting, or looking for some video or info about
it on line too!
Think Newfoundland!!!
Garrett
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers
<irishrover1 at live.com>wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks
> I have just returned from a ten day trip around Newfoundland, and
> naturally I searched for Rovers. I spotted several Landies most appeared to
> be in daily use. My one rare find was a 1957 Rover 105R, sadly this car is
> beyond help, but has lots of good parts. I now have a complete slid in tool
> drawer. The owner said he drove the car in to where I found it, the engine
> ran smoothly and the Roverdrive Trans seemed to work fine. I was tempted to
> make an offer for the whole car, but its in such a remote part of Province
> the cost of getting it out would be prohibitive. Nevertheless, it was an
> exciting find and I can maybe go back sometime later for more parts. Didn't
> come across too much else of interest, a hard top TR7 and an airport
> Karrier truck (Rootes Group) with stairs for loading and unloading
> passengers. Time now to take my Rover for a drive with her re-chromed front
> overriders!!!once I install them!
> Cheers Ben (irishrover)
>
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
> E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
> Royal Navy?
> then
> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
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From irishrover1 at live.com Tue May 1 15:28:04 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 18:28:04 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] My Newfoundland Trip
In-Reply-To: <CAJBLATS3wkOxXrs=ncewjGFvh+F4vJag3cfp17Eq7rQrWwRcuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL111-W777B6BB3E687776ACC8C287290@phx.gbl>,
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Hi Garrett
I wonderful Province with a new and breath taking scene at every turn. We visited Fogo Island and the Port to Port drive. A great time.
Ben (irishrover)
*************
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Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges, Royal Navy?
then
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> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:52:09 -0400
> From: gbbourque at gmail.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My Newfoundland Trip
>
>
> Hello Ben and Rovernet,
> Good on you all!! Newfoundland is a facinating place. My mother's
> parents, my grandparents, are both from there. They left the southeast
> corner, near St. John's in the 1930s and emigrated to the Boston area in
> the USA. My grandfather worked in the ocean fishing industry, both under
> sail and under power.
> He resettled in Boston and worked out of Boston and Gloucester, either
> as a harbor pilot or on various fishing boats, between the 40s and the late
> 60s, when he retired.
> I was able to visit Newfoundland's west coast, and the Labrador coast,
> in the mid 90s, while I was giving a group of college students a guided
> tour. We visited some of the more signifigant Native North American sites
> there. We also visited North America's only verified NORSE occupied site,
> now a reconstructed village museum, and a World Heritage Site. Hint Hint,
> Rovers,,,Viking ships, norse helmets, etc!!!!! This is called L'Anse Aux
> Medows. It is well worth visiting, or looking for some video or info about
> it on line too!
> Think Newfoundland!!!
> Garrett
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers
> <irishrover1 at live.com>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks
> > I have just returned from a ten day trip around Newfoundland, and
> > naturally I searched for Rovers. I spotted several Landies most appeared to
> > be in daily use. My one rare find was a 1957 Rover 105R, sadly this car is
> > beyond help, but has lots of good parts. I now have a complete slid in tool
> > drawer. The owner said he drove the car in to where I found it, the engine
> > ran smoothly and the Roverdrive Trans seemed to work fine. I was tempted to
> > make an offer for the whole car, but its in such a remote part of Province
> > the cost of getting it out would be prohibitive. Nevertheless, it was an
> > exciting find and I can maybe go back sometime later for more parts. Didn't
> > come across too much else of interest, a hard top TR7 and an airport
> > Karrier truck (Rootes Group) with stairs for loading and unloading
> > passengers. Time now to take my Rover for a drive with her re-chromed front
> > overriders!!!once I install them!
> > Cheers Ben (irishrover)
> >
> > *************
> > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
> > E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
> > Royal Navy?
> > then
> > Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
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From gbbourque at gmail.com Wed May 2 00:16:01 2012
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 01:16:01 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] My Newfoundland Trip
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I forgot to mention in my earlier note that I made a second trip to
Labrador, a short time after my first when I was directing the college
field trip. It was 1993 and I had just purchased my 1970 Rover 3500s, that
I still have today. I had not restored the car yet, when I made this
trip. Reverse did not work in the automatic transmission, but that did not
stop me!! I drove all the way to Labrador and back without reverse!! I
was visiting a lady that I had met up there. Parking on the ferries was a
challenge! When I returned home, I converted my car to have a 5 speed SD1
transmission and the rest is history!!
Happy Rovering,
Garrett Bourque
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Frederick Ben Rodgers
<irishrover1 at live.com>wrote:
>
>
> Hi Garrett
> I wonderful Province with a new and breath taking scene at
> every turn. We visited Fogo Island and the Port to Port drive. A great time.
> Ben (irishrover)
>
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
> E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS Ganges,
> Royal Navy?
> then
> Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:52:09 -0400
> > From: gbbourque at gmail.com
> > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] My Newfoundland Trip
> >
> >
> > Hello Ben and Rovernet,
> > Good on you all!! Newfoundland is a facinating place. My mother's
> > parents, my grandparents, are both from there. They left the southeast
> > corner, near St. John's in the 1930s and emigrated to the Boston area in
> > the USA. My grandfather worked in the ocean fishing industry, both under
> > sail and under power.
> > He resettled in Boston and worked out of Boston and Gloucester,
> either
> > as a harbor pilot or on various fishing boats, between the 40s and the
> late
> > 60s, when he retired.
> > I was able to visit Newfoundland's west coast, and the Labrador coast,
> > in the mid 90s, while I was giving a group of college students a guided
> > tour. We visited some of the more signifigant Native North American
> sites
> > there. We also visited North America's only verified NORSE occupied
> site,
> > now a reconstructed village museum, and a World Heritage Site. Hint
> Hint,
> > Rovers,,,Viking ships, norse helmets, etc!!!!! This is called L'Anse Aux
> > Medows. It is well worth visiting, or looking for some video or info
> about
> > it on line too!
> > Think Newfoundland!!!
> > Garrett
> >
> > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Frederick Ben Rodgers
> > <irishrover1 at live.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Folks
> > > I have just returned from a ten day trip around Newfoundland,
> and
> > > naturally I searched for Rovers. I spotted several Landies most
> appeared to
> > > be in daily use. My one rare find was a 1957 Rover 105R, sadly this
> car is
> > > beyond help, but has lots of good parts. I now have a complete slid in
> tool
> > > drawer. The owner said he drove the car in to where I found it, the
> engine
> > > ran smoothly and the Roverdrive Trans seemed to work fine. I was
> tempted to
> > > make an offer for the whole car, but its in such a remote part of
> Province
> > > the cost of getting it out would be prohibitive. Nevertheless, it was
> an
> > > exciting find and I can maybe go back sometime later for more parts.
> Didn't
> > > come across too much else of interest, a hard top TR7 and an airport
> > > Karrier truck (Rootes Group) with stairs for loading and unloading
> > > passengers. Time now to take my Rover for a drive with her re-chromed
> front
> > > overriders!!!once I install them!
> > > Cheers Ben (irishrover)
> > >
> > > *************
> > > My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
> > > E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
> > > Interested in Submarines,Antique cars,VW Westfalia's, Dogs, HMS
> Ganges,
> > > Royal Navy?
> > > then
> > > Visit our website and blog at www.irishroversbooks.com
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From adrian.mcdonald at live.com Wed May 2 18:23:42 2012
From: adrian.mcdonald at live.com (Adrian McDonald)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 16:23:42 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BLU154-W32601965B95C90FDC4E6789E2E0@phx.gbl>
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From kkinard at att.net Thu May 3 08:02:56 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 08:02:56 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
In-Reply-To: <4F969D43.4080707@rymes.net>
References: <4F969D43.4080707@rymes.net>
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Hi Netters,
Martin Wass bought the Vegas car. I have more pics if anyone is curious.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> Looks like it's solid but needs mechanical love. DG automatic, I'm
> guessing.
>
> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/2936559761.html
>
> It's not mine, but I know I'd be looking if I was nearby!
>
> Tom
>
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From tom at rymes.net Thu May 3 10:20:29 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:20:29 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
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References: <4F969D43.4080707@rymes.net> <4FA28200.5050408@att.net>
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Are you kidding? Of course we want pictures!!!!!
Tom
On May 3, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Netters,
> Martin Wass bought the Vegas car. I have more pics if anyone is curious.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> Tom Rymes wrote:
>>
>> Looks like it's solid but needs mechanical love. DG automatic, I'm guessing.
>>
>> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/2936559761.html
>>
>> It's not mine, but I know I'd be looking if I was nearby!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> **************************************
>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
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>>
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu May 3 10:28:38 2012
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 17:28:38 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
In-Reply-To: <2414DA53-A118-451E-BE51-9675D46BEFA8@rymes.net>
References: <4F969D43.4080707@rymes.net> <4FA28200.5050408@att.net>
<2414DA53-A118-451E-BE51-9675D46BEFA8@rymes.net>
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We are waiting! Beautiful car and looks cheap!
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Tom Rymes
Inviato: gioved? 3 maggio 2012 17.20
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
Are you kidding? Of course we want pictures!!!!!
Tom
On May 3, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Netters,
> Martin Wass bought the Vegas car. I have more pics if anyone is curious.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> Tom Rymes wrote:
>>
>> Looks like it's solid but needs mechanical love. DG automatic, I'm guessing.
>>
>> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/2936559761.html
>>
>> It's not mine, but I know I'd be looking if I was nearby!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> **************************************
>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
>
>
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From robertime at cavtel.net Thu May 3 11:58:16 2012
From: robertime at cavtel.net (ROBERT HEIMERL)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:58:16 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
In-Reply-To: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596018E2572@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
References: <4F969D43.4080707@rymes.net> <4FA28200.5050408@att.net>
<2414DA53-A118-451E-BE51-9675D46BEFA8@rymes.net>
<39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B9596018E2572@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel>
Message-ID: <CAG4k1tHU8YWCSEux3pbrvyM9MHFZT5nD7TXwk_uPBit1O_=emQ@mail.gmail.com>
Cheap and beautiful occasionally go together, but not very often! ;-)
Bear in mind that this particular car was listed by a Las Vegas auto repair
shop as a "mechanic's special."
The photos posted with the Craigslist ad weren't very good, apparently
didn't do it justice.
>From what I've seen (also via Martin), it turned out to be much better than
one would have expected, clean & rust-free.
Still, the asking price was fairly typical for a model that's largely
unknown in this country.
Robert H.
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:28 AM, <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> wrote:
>
> We are waiting! Beautiful car and looks cheap!
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca]
> Per conto di Tom Rymes
> Inviato: gioved? 3 maggio 2012 17.20
> A: Rovernet
> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
>
>
> Are you kidding? Of course we want pictures!!!!!
>
> Tom
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Netters,
> > Martin Wass bought the Vegas car. I have more pics if anyone is curious.
> >
> > Roverly,
> > Kent K.
> >
> > Tom Rymes wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks like it's solid but needs mechanical love. DG automatic, I'm
> guessing.
> >>
> >> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/2936559761.html
> >>
> >> It's not mine, but I know I'd be looking if I was nearby!
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> **************************************
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> >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Thu May 3 12:16:12 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:16:12 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
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<4FA28200.5050408@att.net><2414DA53-A118-451E-BE51-9675D46BEFA8@rymes.net>
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Hey Netters,
Anyone interested in a Series 2 Rover 2000 TC in very good shape? Give me a
reply off the net if you are.
Ben Saunders
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Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:29 AM
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Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
We are waiting! Beautiful car and looks cheap!
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Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per
conto di Tom Rymes
Inviato: gioved? 3 maggio 2012 17.20
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
Are you kidding? Of course we want pictures!!!!!
Tom
On May 3, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Netters,
> Martin Wass bought the Vegas car. I have more pics if anyone is curious.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> Tom Rymes wrote:
>>
>> Looks like it's solid but needs mechanical love. DG automatic, I'm
guessing.
>>
>> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/2936559761.html
>>
>> It's not mine, but I know I'd be looking if I was nearby!
>>
>> Tom
>>
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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Fri May 4 15:43:33 2012
From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE LA CERTE PSY D)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:43:33 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] Crawling with P6s
Message-ID: <COL111-W62F6ED07E82E87FEC9E346832C0@phx.gbl>
Probably something which has come up before, but for those who might have missed it The Bank Job (2008, British crime film w/Jason Statham and a smokin' Saffron Burrows) is set in 1971 London. It's a pretty good flick, full of all sorts of period cars, and I think I counted at least 5 if not 6 P6s. Give it a look, it's a hoot.
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.,'70 3500s
Ecrasez l'infame
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon May 7 09:46:35 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 10:46:35 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
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Hi Kent and all Rovernetters,
I am trying to find a good home for my 1980 Rover SD1 and it comes with a
parts car. If anyone is interested please elt me know.
Ben Saunders
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Behalf Of Kent Kinard
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 9:03 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Mk2 P5 on Las Vegas CL - $3,500
Hi Netters,
Martin Wass bought the Vegas car. I have more pics if anyone is curious.
Roverly,
Kent K.
Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> Looks like it's solid but needs mechanical love. DG automatic, I'm
> guessing.
>
> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/2936559761.html
>
> It's not mine, but I know I'd be looking if I was nearby!
>
> Tom
>
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Mon May 7 16:14:34 2012
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 21:14:34 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] SD1 5 speed gear shift lever and knob
Message-ID: <BAY153-W653277EB8FDBADAC6EB5E0DE130@phx.gbl>
Does anyone have an SD1 5 speed gearshift lever and gearshift knob........I've acquired a 3500S with an SD1 5 speed manual...........It has an Mg shifter in it ....tall and straight........i will shorten it if i have to but would like the proper shifter for itThanks Bill Robertson
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Tue May 8 05:05:10 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:05:10 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 - far away from home country
References: <COL111-W62F6ED07E82E87FEC9E346832C0@phx.gbl>
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/tyreshredding/6992469176/
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info
From tom at rymes.net Mon May 14 15:52:21 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 16:52:21 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
Message-ID: <4FB17085.2050807@rymes.net>
I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet
manifold gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
Tom
From dmaxwell at as.net Mon May 14 17:05:32 2012
From: dmaxwell at as.net (dmaxwell at as.net)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:05:32 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
Message-ID: <4fb181ac.1fec.af675b90.4f1f1355@as.net>
Kip Motors near Dallas might have them, http://www.kipmotor.com/
David
On Monday 05/14/2012 at 13:51, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet
> manifold gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
>
> Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
>
> Tom
>
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From dmaxwell at as.net Mon May 14 17:05:49 2012
From: dmaxwell at as.net (dmaxwell at as.net)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:05:49 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
Message-ID: <4fb181bd.1fec.af675b90.c11d07c@as.net>
Kip Motors near Dallas might have them, http://www.kipmotor.com/
David
On Monday 05/14/2012 at 13:51, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet
> manifold gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
>
> Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
>
> Tom
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon May 14 18:51:02 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 19:51:02 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
In-Reply-To: <4FB17085.2050807@rymes.net>
References: <4FB17085.2050807@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <4FB19A66.6030401@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Tom,
Ruth at ABC or Dermott Harvey in NY are possibilities. If someone did a
valve job and "decarbonization", this gasket might be left over from a
full head set.
JRW and JWearing in the UK are options too.
The Weslake head engine is quite an orphan in the Land Rover world since
it was only in 1967 North American LR's and many of these have been
swapped for other engines. The same basic short block though was used
in some Land Rovers until 1980-ish using the P4 100 / 95 head.
--Steve Manwell
On 5/14/2012 4:52 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>
> I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet
> manifold gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
>
> Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
>
> Tom
>
> **************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>
>
>
From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon May 14 19:03:50 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 20:03:50 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
In-Reply-To: <4FB19A66.6030401@alum.swarthmore.edu>
References: <4FB17085.2050807@rymes.net> <4FB19A66.6030401@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: <4FB19D66.9060305@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Should have mentioned Pierre Janusz in the UK too -- he has a complete
head set on ebay UK, but may well have individual gaskets.
See seller "voking2000"
On 5/14/2012 7:51 PM, S Manwell wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Ruth at ABC or Dermott Harvey in NY are possibilities. If someone did
> a valve job and "decarbonization", this gasket might be left over from
> a full head set.
>
> JRW and JWearing in the UK are options too.
>
> The Weslake head engine is quite an orphan in the Land Rover world
> since it was only in 1967 North American LR's and many of these have
> been swapped for other engines. The same basic short block though was
> used in some Land Rovers until 1980-ish using the P4 100 / 95 head.
>
>
> --Steve Manwell
>
>
> On 5/14/2012 4:52 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
>>
>> I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet
>> manifold gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
>>
>> Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> **************************************
>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/
>>
>>
>>
From gbbourque at gmail.com Mon May 14 20:32:07 2012
From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:32:07 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
In-Reply-To: <4FB17085.2050807@rymes.net>
References: <4FB17085.2050807@rymes.net>
Message-ID: <CAJBLATRfkAb0=+4o_vV6_hF1-xMmmajbb6pBngjvog=cwntiBg@mail.gmail.com>
Hello Rovernet,
I have not totally researched this, but DAP Rover parts in Springfield
Vermont may have them. They specialize in selling parts for all ages of
Land Rovers. I often buy Series 2 and 3 aged parts from them.
Also, I have several new old stock 3 litre head gasket sets. Does anyone
know if a 3.0 and a 2.6 are similar? They both have one carb.
Rover onward!!!
Garrett Bourque
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net> wrote:
>
> I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet manifold
> gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
>
> Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
>
> Tom
>
> ****************************************
> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon May 14 20:44:35 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:44:35 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
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References: <4FB17085.2050807@rymes.net>
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Message-ID: <4FB1B503.6050909@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Hi Garret,
All 6 cylinder engines with the Weslake head use the same head gasket set:
1967 NADA Land Rover 2.6, 1962 - '64 P4 110 2.6, and 1962 - '67 Mk II
and III 3 litre.
--Steve
On 5/14/2012 9:32 PM, garrett bourque wrote:
> Hello Rovernet,
> I have not totally researched this, but DAP Rover parts in Springfield
> Vermont may have them. They specialize in selling parts for all ages of
> Land Rovers. I often buy Series 2 and 3 aged parts from them.
> Also, I have several new old stock 3 litre head gasket sets. Does anyone
> know if a 3.0 and a 2.6 are similar? They both have one carb.
> Rover onward!!!
> Garrett Bourque
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tom Rymes<tom at rymes.net> wrote:
>
>> I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet manifold
>> gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
>>
>> Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> ****************************************
>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/Rover_net/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/>
>>
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From tom at rymes.net Mon May 14 21:41:56 2012
From: tom at rymes.net (Tom Rymes)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:41:56 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
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Thanks for the information, folks, I will follow up with the various North American options.
As for the various engines, this is what I understand, after researching a bit this afternoon. Hopefully anyone better informed than I will correct any errors:
1.) Early 2.6L - 5 main bearings. Used in the P4 (except the 100 and 110), Land Rover (Not NADA).
2.) 3.0 L - 7 Main Bearings. Used in the P5 3-Litre Sedans
3.) Later 2.6L - 7 Main bearings & Weslake head. A De-stroked version of the 3.0L engine. As such parts other than the crank should be shared. Used in some P5s (Export markets), P4 100 & 110, and the NADA Land Rover 109.
I believe (and I'm counting on those who know from experience to confirm/refute this) that any 2.6 with the Weslake head is the 7-main engine derived from the 3.0 and any with the non-Weslake head is the earlier 5-main engine. This makes some sense, as the bore spacing changed to accommodate the bearings, so the heads wouldn't be interchangeable (except, of course, the earlier non-Weslake 3.0 head...). Perhaps all 5-main have non-Weslake heads and only some 7-main have Weslake?
I'm not 100% certain about the P4 100 having the later 2.6. Wikipedia seems to contain some errors about this, including an implication that the P4 95 had the same engine as the 110, except with a different head (it is my understanding that it used the earlier 5-main bearing engine).
Tom
On May 14, 2012, at 9:44 PM, S Manwell wrote:
>
> Hi Garret,
>
> All 6 cylinder engines with the Weslake head use the same head gasket set:
>
> 1967 NADA Land Rover 2.6, 1962 - '64 P4 110 2.6, and 1962 - '67 Mk II and III 3 litre.
>
> --Steve
>
>
> On 5/14/2012 9:32 PM, garrett bourque wrote:
>> Hello Rovernet,
>> I have not totally researched this, but DAP Rover parts in Springfield
>> Vermont may have them. They specialize in selling parts for all ages of
>> Land Rovers. I often buy Series 2 and 3 aged parts from them.
>> Also, I have several new old stock 3 litre head gasket sets. Does anyone
>> know if a 3.0 and a 2.6 are similar? They both have one carb.
>> Rover onward!!!
>> Garrett Bourque
>>
>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tom Rymes<tom at rymes.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet manifold
>>> gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> ****************************************
>>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/Rover_net/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/>
>>>
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From s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu Mon May 14 22:05:38 2012
From: s_manwell at alum.swarthmore.edu (S Manwell)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 23:05:38 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
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Tom--
Almost right; the earlier 5-main 2.6 engine was used in 90's and 105's
up through 1959. After that all 2.6 and 3.0 engines were based the
7-main block:
100's, 95's, MkI 3-litres and European 6-cylinder Land Rovers had the
pre-Weslake head. The Weslake head will fit on these engines (but see
oil port comment below), but the steering box is in the way on RHD Land
Rovers.
110's, MkII/III 3 litres and 1967 NADA Land Rovers had the Weslake head.
There are some other variations: an additional oil port and O-ring was
added at a rear corner of the head and block around 1965, and the rear
main bearing and seal changed at some point (different diameter?). MkII
3-litres had one crankshaft for automatic and another for manual
gearbox, then the manual type became standard for both MkIII gearboxes.
--Steve
On 5/14/2012 10:41 PM, Tom Rymes wrote:
> Thanks for the information, folks, I will follow up with the various North American options.
>
> As for the various engines, this is what I understand, after researching a bit this afternoon. Hopefully anyone better informed than I will correct any errors:
>
> 1.) Early 2.6L - 5 main bearings. Used in the P4 (except the 100 and 110), Land Rover (Not NADA).
> 2.) 3.0 L - 7 Main Bearings. Used in the P5 3-Litre Sedans
> 3.) Later 2.6L - 7 Main bearings& Weslake head. A De-stroked version of the 3.0L engine. As such parts other than the crank should be shared. Used in some P5s (Export markets), P4 100& 110, and the NADA Land Rover 109.
>
> I believe (and I'm counting on those who know from experience to confirm/refute this) that any 2.6 with the Weslake head is the 7-main engine derived from the 3.0 and any with the non-Weslake head is the earlier 5-main engine. This makes some sense, as the bore spacing changed to accommodate the bearings, so the heads wouldn't be interchangeable (except, of course, the earlier non-Weslake 3.0 head...). Perhaps all 5-main have non-Weslake heads and only some 7-main have Weslake?
>
> I'm not 100% certain about the P4 100 having the later 2.6. Wikipedia seems to contain some errors about this, including an implication that the P4 95 had the same engine as the 110, except with a different head (it is my understanding that it used the earlier 5-main bearing engine).
>
> Tom
>
> On May 14, 2012, at 9:44 PM, S Manwell wrote:
>
>> Hi Garret,
>>
>> All 6 cylinder engines with the Weslake head use the same head gasket set:
>>
>> 1967 NADA Land Rover 2.6, 1962 - '64 P4 110 2.6, and 1962 - '67 Mk II and III 3 litre.
>>
>> --Steve
>>
>>
>> On 5/14/2012 9:32 PM, garrett bourque wrote:
>>> Hello Rovernet,
>>> I have not totally researched this, but DAP Rover parts in Springfield
>>> Vermont may have them. They specialize in selling parts for all ages of
>>> Land Rovers. I often buy Series 2 and 3 aged parts from them.
>>> Also, I have several new old stock 3 litre head gasket sets. Does anyone
>>> know if a 3.0 and a 2.6 are similar? They both have one carb.
>>> Rover onward!!!
>>> Garrett Bourque
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tom Rymes<tom at rymes.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet manifold
>>>> gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> ****************************************
>>>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at:
>>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/Rover_net/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/>
>>>>
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From kkinard at att.net Mon May 14 22:50:41 2012
From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:50:41 -0500
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
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References: <4FB17085.2050807@rymes.net> <CAJBLATRfkAb0=+4o_vV6_hF1-xMmmajbb6pBngjvog=cwntiBg@mail.gmail.com> <4FB1B503.6050909@alum.swarthmore.edu>
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Close, but not quite, Tom.
See comments interspersed below.
Tom Rymes wrote:
> Thanks for the information, folks, I will follow up with the various North American options.
>
> As for the various engines, this is what I understand, after researching a bit this afternoon. Hopefully anyone better informed than I will correct any errors:
>
> 1.) Early 2.6L - 5 main bearings. Used in the P4 (except the 100 and 110), Land Rover (Not NADA).
>
Not 5 main bearings, but 4. Seven main sixes are 100 and 95 (both with
integral intake manifold) and 110 which is a short stroke 3litre. 100
and 95 are very similar but not identical. 95 used different pistons and
different (thicker head gasket) which it shared with the 110, different
crank pulley.
> 2.) 3.0 L - 7 Main Bearings. Used in the P5 3-Litre Sedans
>
Three versions-
1) Mk. I and IA with integral intake like P4 100 and 95,
2) early MK II(a & b) without oil drainbroack hole ,
3) late MK II (c) and all Mk. III with oil drainback hole in deck
surface and larger main journals on crankshaft. Rocker gear differs with
early 100 engines sharing rocker gear with MK I 3litre, while late 100
and all 110 share rocker gear with the Weslake head engines.
> 3.) Later 2.6L - 7 Main bearings& Weslake head. A De-stroked version of the 3.0L engine. As such parts other than the crank should be shared. Used in some P5s (Export markets), P4 100& 110, and the NADA Land Rover 109.
>
I do not believe the 2.6 used in the NADA 109 (1967 only) would have
used the same head and head gasket as the P4 110 as the oil drainback
passage from the head should have been incorporated in all blocks and
heads cast after March 1964, although I have seen print references to
the NADA 109 using "the engine from the P4 110."
> I believe (and I'm counting on those who know from experience to confirm/refute this) that any 2.6 with the Weslake head is the 7-main engine derived from the 3.0 and any with the non-Weslake head is the earlier 5-main engine. This makes some sense, as the bore spacing changed to accommodate the bearings, so the heads wouldn't be interchangeable (except, of course, the earlier non-Weslake 3.0 head...). Perhaps all 5-main have non-Weslake heads and only some 7-main have Weslake?
>
Non-Weslake heads from 4 main and 7 main engines will not interchange
because of bore spacing. Some 7 main heads ('59 through early '64) can
be interchanged if both upper and lower rockers and pushrods are used
that match the heads. It may be possible to interchange early and late
Weslake heads, but I don't think so. I've never tried it and although I
have had both early and late Weslakes, I have never had them at the same
time. My guess is that such a swap would invite a massive oil leak.
> I'm not 100% certain about the P4 100 having the later 2.6. Wikipedia seems to contain some errors about this, including an implication that the P4 95 had the same engine as the 110, except with a different head (it is my understanding that it used the earlier 5-main bearing engine).
>
As noted above, the 95 and 110 are basically the same except for the
head. All 100's have the seven main block. Some late 100's used some 95
engine parts (I know that's vague...but it's late and I'm tired).
Anybody else want to take a shot at this one.
Roveregurgitatively,
Kent K.
From james.moison at gmail.com Mon May 14 23:26:59 2012
From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:26:59 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] P5 3 Litre Inlet manifold gasket source
In-Reply-To: <CAJBLATRfkAb0=+4o_vV6_hF1-xMmmajbb6pBngjvog=cwntiBg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4FB17085.2050807@rymes.net>
<CAJBLATRfkAb0=+4o_vV6_hF1-xMmmajbb6pBngjvog=cwntiBg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA7GSQJjq-EqoWtqsmhFybNZFH3GqJ1JjiCrKgvqcW=vQ70qUg@mail.gmail.com>
If you own a Rover and can't make a gasket, you shouldn't own a rover. Get
some 1mm gasket paper and a ball peen hammer. Suggest tacking it in place.
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:32 PM, garrett bourque <gbbourque at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Hello Rovernet,
> I have not totally researched this, but DAP Rover parts in Springfield
> Vermont may have them. They specialize in selling parts for all ages of
> Land Rovers. I often buy Series 2 and 3 aged parts from them.
> Also, I have several new old stock 3 litre head gasket sets. Does anyone
> know if a 3.0 and a 2.6 are similar? They both have one carb.
> Rover onward!!!
> Garrett Bourque
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > I was just informed by Rovers North that they consider the inlet manifold
> > gasket for the NADA 2.6 Land Rover Engines to be NLA.
> >
> > Does anyone know of another North American source of these?
> >
> > Tom
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From p4roverman at yahoo.com Thu May 17 12:28:32 2012
From: p4roverman at yahoo.com (Rover Man)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 10:28:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] p4 front wings/panels
Message-ID: <1337275712.60613.YahooMailNeo@web112706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
I have for a early type not cyclopes front wings both right left side for a P4 Rover, i think years ranging in 52-54. I am located in Southern California,if anyone wants them contact me. I hate to throw them away.I need to make room.
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sun May 20 18:28:33 2012
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 23:28:33 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000TC electric gremlins
Message-ID: <BAY153-W23DBA73D5A7CC6FC135FDCDE1C0@phx.gbl>
i need some suggestions......my TC is missing intermittently...mostly at low revs........i changed the coil and no efffect....then changed the condensor....still the same......i run a fuel filter and changed that just to discount any thing non electrical......i will try changing the rotor, points and cap tomorrow.....the plugs and wires are new last fall so should be ok but i'll pull them to look tomorrow also.........i need the car for the spring run as my 3500S still has brake issues and a slipping transmission....and my new 3500S is not certifed as of yet..........i can't get under the car or bend over too much as my back isn't worth the spine its attached too.....LOL
ThanksBill Robertson
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From britishrover at gmail.com Sun May 20 20:49:59 2012
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 21:49:59 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000TC electric gremlins
In-Reply-To: <BAY153-W23DBA73D5A7CC6FC135FDCDE1C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY153-W23DBA73D5A7CC6FC135FDCDE1C0@phx.gbl>
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...ignition wires should take care of it....;O)
From britishrover at gmail.com Sun May 20 20:54:04 2012
From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 21:54:04 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000TC electric gremlins
In-Reply-To: <CAKQjg_SukHKbcsz2zd-_QbVh3rALFboR68xeizdiwDc=v2yDfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY153-W23DBA73D5A7CC6FC135FDCDE1C0@phx.gbl>
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...sorry...I meant I suspect the cap most times, especially if setting
up alot , with mildew corrosion coated issues...
From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sun May 20 21:40:56 2012
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 02:40:56 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000TC electrical gremlins added
Message-ID: <BAY153-W598D148B53F046DB0259E2DE1D0@phx.gbl>
Hi all.......i forgot to add that the tach jumps all over the place when the missing is happening but is stable when it is not missingThanksBill
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From vern at inkspotco.com Sun May 20 21:57:31 2012
From: vern at inkspotco.com (Vern Klukas)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 19:57:31 -0700
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000TC electrical gremlins added
In-Reply-To: <BAY153-W598D148B53F046DB0259E2DE1D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY153-W598D148B53F046DB0259E2DE1D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5AFFC9A7-FE21-48B1-ADE5-16A504E413C8@inkspotco.com>
Sounds like an intermittent short or open in the low tension circuit. Check the lead from the distributor connector to the points under the cap.
Yours
Vern
.
On 2012-05-20, at 7:40 PM, Bill Robertson wrote:
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From roger.matheson at bigpond.com Mon May 21 05:21:44 2012
From: roger.matheson at bigpond.com (roger matheson)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 20:21:44 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000TC electrical gremlins added
References: <BAY153-W598D148B53F046DB0259E2DE1D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <006001cd373b$85d55040$0301a8c0@owner1b4c6f2cf>
Hmm,
I agree with Vern and the clue is the tacho jumping suggesting an
intermitent fault in the low tension circuit. Have you checked the
insulation where the spring of the points mounts to a peg on the base plate.
There are typically plastic sleaves on this peg to prevent a short to earth
so that the current from the coil goes through the points (and condensor).
You could then diagnose further by hot wiring. That is put a lead from the
battery (or from a connection to the head lights which is not far away in
the engine bay) straight to the coil thereby eliminating all the ignition
wiring loom and the ignition switch in particular. If the hot wire works
then suspect a worn ingnition switch and with the engine running wiggle the
key around and see if you can replicate the problem. If it is the ignition
switch then devote many hours to removal renovate and re assemble. Let us
know how it goes.
Cheers Roger
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To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000TC electrical gremlins added
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>
> Hi all.......i forgot to add that the tach jumps all over the place when
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From irishrover1 at live.com Mon May 21 09:35:23 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:35:23 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
Message-ID: <COL111-W530D76669C24229CFC8F52871D0@phx.gbl>
Hi Folks
I wonder if anyone had this problem and found a solution. When I drive my 1961 P4-100 with the windows shut I have no problems, if I have the windows open, even just one vent window I get fumes inside the car. I'm thinking I should lengthen the tail pipe as it doesn't quite reach out from under the rear bumper. Appreciate any advice.
Cheers Ben (irishrover)
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon May 21 10:08:57 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:08:57 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
In-Reply-To: <COL111-W530D76669C24229CFC8F52871D0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL111-W530D76669C24229CFC8F52871D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5D571BE2CFF04D449718DA72107CE4F5@SD1>
Chech to make sure you don't have a crack in the exhaust manifold. I had one
that only could be seen when it was hot and also chech the intire exhaust
system.
-----Original Message-----
From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:35 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
Hi Folks
I wonder if anyone had this problem and found a solution. When I
drive my 1961 P4-100 with the windows shut I have no problems, if I have the
windows open, even just one vent window I get fumes inside the car. I'm
thinking I should lengthen the tail pipe as it doesn't quite reach out from
under the rear bumper. Appreciate any advice.
Cheers Ben (irishrover)
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From irishrover1 at live.com Mon May 21 09:43:41 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:43:41 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
In-Reply-To: <5D571BE2CFF04D449718DA72107CE4F5@SD1>
References: <COL111-W530D76669C24229CFC8F52871D0@phx.gbl>,
<5D571BE2CFF04D449718DA72107CE4F5@SD1>
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Hi Ben
No leaks in the system, I even tried plugging any small holes I found thru the firewall.
Ben
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> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:08:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
>
>
> Chech to make sure you don't have a crack in the exhaust manifold. I had one
> that only could be seen when it was hot and also chech the intire exhaust
> system.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:35 AM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
>
>
>
> Hi Folks
> I wonder if anyone had this problem and found a solution. When I
> drive my 1961 P4-100 with the windows shut I have no problems, if I have the
> windows open, even just one vent window I get fumes inside the car. I'm
> thinking I should lengthen the tail pipe as it doesn't quite reach out from
> under the rear bumper. Appreciate any advice.
> Cheers Ben (irishrover)
>
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From bsaunders at firstva.com Mon May 21 10:40:36 2012
From: bsaunders at firstva.com (Ben Saunders)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:40:36 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
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Mine had me fooled with a small crack that you could not notice unless the
engine was hot. Also check to make sure that the exhaust manifold is tight
to the block and that the gaskets are not leaking. There is another source
and that is fron the valve cover vent and you may have a bit too much blow
by due to ring ware. That can come up to the heater/vent intake at the end
of the bonnet and when you crack a window the interior goes negative in
pressure and pulls the fumes in. If your fan is in good shape you might be
able to counter with it on full balst.
Ben
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From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:44 AM
To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
Hi Ben
No leaks in the system, I even tried plugging any small holes I
found thru the firewall.
Ben
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> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:08:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
>
>
> Chech to make sure you don't have a crack in the exhaust manifold. I
> had one that only could be seen when it was hot and also chech the
> intire exhaust system.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca
> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Frederick Ben
> Rodgers
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:35 AM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
>
>
>
> Hi Folks
> I wonder if anyone had this problem and found a solution.
> When I drive my 1961 P4-100 with the windows shut I have no problems,
> if I have the windows open, even just one vent window I get fumes
> inside the car. I'm thinking I should lengthen the tail pipe as it
> doesn't quite reach out from under the rear bumper. Appreciate any advice.
> Cheers Ben (irishrover)
>
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From irishrover1 at live.com Mon May 21 18:40:25 2012
From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 21:40:25 -0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
In-Reply-To: <2C5CF8FAAB3F4AC6B8AFAEB785CF8AD9@SD1>
References: <COL111-W530D76669C24229CFC8F52871D0@phx.gbl>, ,
<5D571BE2CFF04D449718DA72107CE4F5@SD1>,
<COL111-W228C5939A63ADEDFFB1EBE871D0@phx.gbl>,
<2C5CF8FAAB3F4AC6B8AFAEB785CF8AD9@SD1>
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Thanks Ben that is something worth checking for
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> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:40:36 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
>
>
> Mine had me fooled with a small crack that you could not notice unless the
> engine was hot. Also check to make sure that the exhaust manifold is tight
> to the block and that the gaskets are not leaking. There is another source
> and that is fron the valve cover vent and you may have a bit too much blow
> by due to ring ware. That can come up to the heater/vent intake at the end
> of the bonnet and when you crack a window the interior goes negative in
> pressure and pulls the fumes in. If your fan is in good shape you might be
> able to counter with it on full balst.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On
> Behalf Of Frederick Ben Rodgers
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:44 AM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
>
>
>
> Hi Ben
> No leaks in the system, I even tried plugging any small holes I
> found thru the firewall.
> Ben
>
> *************
> My Books Lily & Me, and The Royal Navy & Me, are now available as
> E-Books. Go to www.smashwords.com
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>
> > From: bsaunders at firstva.com
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> > Chech to make sure you don't have a crack in the exhaust manifold. I
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> > intire exhaust system.
> >
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> > When I drive my 1961 P4-100 with the windows shut I have no problems,
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From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Mon May 21 20:51:32 2012
From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:51:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
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Hi Ben, I would check the trunk seals to see if it's drawing in the fumes. I've had vehicles that I was certain were trying to kill me and have often thought of using a smoke bomb in the exhaust to find the leak. Light it, place in exhaust and plug the tail pipe and look for the leak.
roland
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
To: "rovernet at rovernet.ca" <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Date: Monday, May 21, 2012, 4:40 PM
Thanks Ben that is something worth checking for
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Cheers Ben
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> From: bsaunders at firstva.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:40:36 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
>
>
> Mine had me fooled with a small crack that you could not notice unless the
> engine was hot. Also check to make sure that the exhaust manifold is tight
> to the block and that the gaskets are not leaking. There is another source
> and that is fron the valve cover vent and you may have a bit too much blow
> by due to ring ware. That can come up to the heater/vent intake at the end
> of the bonnet and when you crack a window the interior goes negative in
> pressure and pulls the fumes in. If your fan is in good shape you might be
> able to counter with it on full balst.
>
> Ben
>
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>
> Hi Ben
>? ? ? ???No leaks in the system, I even tried plugging any small holes I
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> > From: bsaunders at firstva.com
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> > Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:08:57 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
> >
> >
> > Chech to make sure you don't have a crack in the exhaust manifold. I
> > had one that only could be seen when it was hot and also chech the
> > intire exhaust system.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Frederick Ben
> > Rodgers
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> > Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks
> >? ? ? ? ? I wonder if anyone had this problem and found a solution.
> > When I drive my 1961 P4-100 with the windows shut I have no problems,
> > if I have the windows open, even just one vent window I get fumes
> > inside the car. I'm thinking I should lengthen the tail pipe as it
> > doesn't quite reach out from under the rear bumper. Appreciate any advice.
> >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Cheers Ben (irishrover)
> >
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From roger.matheson at bigpond.com Tue May 22 02:48:51 2012
From: roger.matheson at bigpond.com (roger matheson)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 17:48:51 +1000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
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Hi All
Does anyone have a source for 2000 TC air filter cartridges. No luck in Oz to date. Alternatively has anyone had success in cleaning them. I typically use compressed air to blow out the dust etc but the paper remains stained (and possibly partially blocked) With old filters I experimented with petrol and compressed air but that did not seem to make much difference.
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From pfvandermeulen at cs.com Tue May 22 03:25:13 2012
From: pfvandermeulen at cs.com (pfvandermeulen at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 04:25:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
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hello roger, i have 6 filters for you prt nr gfe 1013. best regards peter van der meulen the netherlands.
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To: The original list for Rover car enthusiasts. <rovernet at rovernet.ca>
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:49 am
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
Hi All
Does anyone have a source for 2000 TC air filter cartridges. No luck in Oz to
date. Alternatively has anyone had success in cleaning them. I typically use
compressed air to blow out the dust etc but the paper remains stained (and
possibly partially blocked) With old filters I experimented with petrol and
compressed air but that did not seem to make much difference.
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From michael.maher at virgin.net Tue May 22 06:06:02 2012
From: michael.maher at virgin.net (Mike Maher)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 12:06:02 +0100
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
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Hi Roger,
Have you looked at http://www.roverclub.ca/partsXref.html?
Failing any matches - I notice the Ryco air filter is not listed on their on
line catalogue, is there a foam sports air filter that would fit?
Mike
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Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
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>
> Does anyone have a source for 2000 TC air filter cartridges. No luck in
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> typically use compressed air to blow out the dust etc but the paper
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From james.moison at gmail.com Tue May 22 09:19:15 2012
From: james.moison at gmail.com (james moison)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:19:15 -0600
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
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I have used a single oval filter for a 84' Subaru 1600.
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>
> Hi All
>
> Does anyone have a source for 2000 TC air filter cartridges. No luck in
> Oz to date. Alternatively has anyone had success in cleaning them. I
> typically use compressed air to blow out the dust etc but the paper remains
> stained (and possibly partially blocked) With old filters I experimented
> with petrol and compressed air but that did not seem to make much
> difference.
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From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Tue May 22 09:24:47 2012
From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 16:24:47 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] R: Subaru 1600 Air filter - Re: 2000 TC air cleaners
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This sounds interesting!
Photos?
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Inviato: marted? 22 maggio 2012 16:19
A: Rovernet
Oggetto: Subaru 1600 Air filter - Re: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
I have used a single oval filter for a 84' Subaru 1600.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:48 AM, roger matheson
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>
> Hi All
>
> Does anyone have a source for 2000 TC air filter cartridges. No luck
> in Oz to date. Alternatively has anyone had success in cleaning them.
> I typically use compressed air to blow out the dust etc but the paper
> remains stained (and possibly partially blocked) With old filters I
> experimented with petrol and compressed air but that did not seem to
> make much difference.
>
> Cheers Roger Matheson
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
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> From: "roger matheson" <roger.matheson at bigpond.com>
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> Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
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> Hi All
>
> Does anyone have a source for 2000 TC air filter cartridges. No luck in Oz to date. Alternatively has anyone had success in cleaning them. I typically use compressed air to blow out the dust etc but the paper remains stained (and possibly partially blocked) With old filters I experimented with petrol and compressed air but that did not seem to make much difference.
>
> Cheers Roger Matheson
Be careful with the oval type filter which does both carbs. You may find that there is a ridge in the housing which will mean that the filter will not seal, and allow unfiltered air through. You may be able to seal with some silicone sealant to make it work.
I bought some TC filters a few years ago from Vanguard Triumph spares in Melbourne.
There is a lawn Tractor filter which fits pretty well.
here is a link to the Fram catalog which includes competitor cross reference:
http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetail.aspx?b=F&pn=CA77
There are listed on ebay.com.au:
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=235116&_sacat=See-All-Categories
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Tue May 22 13:00:59 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 18:00:59 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
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A Subaru Leone filter will do but it's rather too thick to fit comfortably in the filter box. There's also reputed to be a tractor filter that will fit as well.
Worst case you could park up the filter box and make up a pro tem arrangement with two sheets of aluminum to sandwich a suitably sized oval single filter - cutting holes in the inner sheet for the carb inlets and two small holes in the outer for the mounting bolts. A couple of lengths of wire [or long cable ties] would then hold the outer two ends of the sandwich snug with the filter to prevent air leakage.
Scott's Old Rubber in Australia has a replacement filter in its catalog which I assume is the aforesaid tractor item.
> From: roger.matheson at bigpond.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 17:48:51 +1000
> Subject: [Rovernet ] 2000 TC air cleaners
>
>
> Hi All
>
> Does anyone have a source for 2000 TC air filter cartridges. No luck in Oz to date. Alternatively has anyone had success in cleaning them. I typically use compressed air to blow out the dust etc but the paper remains stained (and possibly partially blocked) With old filters I experimented with petrol and compressed air but that did not seem to make much difference.
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From trowzerkoff at hotmail.com Tue May 22 13:11:01 2012
From: trowzerkoff at hotmail.com (Richard Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 18:11:01 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
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You have an exhaust leak somewhere. P4's never draw in stack gas with the windows open or closed. My bet would be that it is at the front end of the system.
> From: irishrover1 at live.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.ca
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:35:23 -0200
> Subject: [Rovernet ] Fumes inside the P4
>
>
>
> Hi Folks
> I wonder if anyone had this problem and found a solution. When I drive my 1961 P4-100 with the windows shut I have no problems, if I have the windows open, even just one vent window I get fumes inside the car. I'm thinking I should lengthen the tail pipe as it doesn't quite reach out from under the rear bumper. Appreciate any advice.
> Cheers Ben (irishrover)
>
> *************
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From peter at king-co.com Tue May 22 13:37:00 2012
From: peter at king-co.com (peter king)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 14:37:00 -0400
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500s rear shocks?
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Hi all,
Anyone found a good crossover available in the US for rear shocks for a 3500s? Time to stop the boat from rocking...
Thanks,
Peter
Peter King + Company
21 Drydock Avenue
Floor 7
Boston, MA 02210
617-292-7877
www.king-co.com
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From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sun May 27 19:17:05 2012
From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 00:17:05 +0000
Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S Badge and Momo wheel adapter or boss kit
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Does anyone have a new 3500S badge for the front grill and rear trunk or know of any NOS ones available......I also need a MOMO steering wheel adapter or boss kit to fit the P6PS....2000TC still not running right......i'll try a different distributer that was good in the car i stripped
ThanksBill Robertson
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From RoverP6 at gmx.de Wed May 30 08:56:24 2012
From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:56:24 +0200
Subject: [Rovernet ] P6 3500 S / Portugal
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http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/rover-andere-p6-3500-s-v8-lisbon/162779701.html?lang=de&pageNumber=1&__lp=2&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=creationTime&sortOption.sortOrder=DESCENDING&makeModelVariant1.makeId=21700&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&maxFirstRegistrationDate=1980-12-31&negativeFeatures=EXPORT
Rudiger
www.RoverP6.info