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From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Sat Sep 1 12:15:04 2012 From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE LA CERTE PSY D) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:15:04 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet ] Art in its purest form Message-ID: <COL111-W1881BF4605AC8755762BC483A50@phx.gbl> How could any of us doubt that Rover will live forever, elevated to high art!!!!! http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/exhibitions/modernwing/artwork/193864 Lance La Certe, Psy.D.Ecrasez l'infame -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120901/f1d5206c/attachment.html> From lacpsyd6 at msn.com Sat Sep 1 12:31:23 2012 From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com (LANCE LA CERTE PSY D) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:31:23 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S manual gearbox conversion Message-ID: <COL111-W577516ECCA53240EBF247683A50@phx.gbl> I've finally had it with the "clunking" of my BW35 in my 3500S. The entire drive line has been expertly rebuilt, and I know I've seen several posts about others acknowledging that no matter what one does, the clunk is a 'given' with this car. To this end, I'm wondering if others can give me an idea of just how difficult it is to convert the NADA to a 5 speed manual. I'd also like to know ahead of time if my assumption is correct; i.e., that with a clutch and manual transmission, the clunk will be a thing of the past. Thanks in advance for any help. Lance La Certe, '70 3500S Lance La Certe, Psy.D.Ecrasez l'infame -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120901/bca73f07/attachment.html> From rover2000nut at hotmail.com Sun Sep 2 13:56:30 2012 From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com (Bill Robertson) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 19:56:30 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com> References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com> Message-ID: <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl> RE: Lance's Clunk Hi Lance......just where abouts are you getting the clunk......in the drivetrain or from the rear suspension......I have both a NADA 3500S manual 5speed (SD1) conversion and an NADA automatic 3500S.......I can't say i have any clunking through the drivetrain...same with my 2000TC.......i do have some clunking when i hit bumps through the rear suspension hitting the bump stops i think....but ...mostly when trunk is fully loaded......i'd check your u joints on the driveshaft and halfshafts if it is a constant thunk or that the transmission mount is in good condition and the bushings are all good.........Or are you referring to a hard shift through the torque converter..........I never trust anyone elses work........LMAO or my own sometimes CheersBill Robertson From: rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1 To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 12:00:02 -0600 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:15:04 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet ] Art in its purest form How could any of us doubt that Rover will live forever, elevated to high art!!!!! http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/exhibitions/modernwing/artwork/193864 Lance La Certe, Psy.D.Ecrasez l'infame -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A new or good used plate will cure the clunk. Regards Ben (irishrover) Author of LILY & ME , and THE ROYAL NAVY & ME Visit blog and website wwwirishroversbooks.com > From: rover2000nut at hotmail.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 19:56:30 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1 > > > > RE: Lance's Clunk > Hi Lance......just where abouts are you getting the clunk......in the drivetrain or from the rear suspension......I have both a NADA 3500S manual 5speed (SD1) conversion and an NADA automatic 3500S.......I can't say i have any clunking through the drivetrain...same with my 2000TC.......i do have some clunking when i hit bumps through the rear suspension hitting the bump stops i think....but ...mostly when trunk is fully loaded......i'd check your u joints on the driveshaft and halfshafts if it is a constant thunk or that the transmission mount is in good condition and the bushings are all good.........Or are you referring to a hard shift through the torque converter..........I never trust anyone elses work........LMAO or my own sometimes > CheersBill Robertson > > From: rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1 > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 12:00:02 -0600 > > Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to > rovernet at rovernet.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rovernet-request at rovernet.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." > > > --Forwarded Message Attachment-- > From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:15:04 -0600 > Subject: [Rovernet ] Art in its purest form > > > How could any of us doubt that Rover will live forever, elevated to high art!!!!! > http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/exhibitions/modernwing/artwork/193864 > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.Ecrasez l'infame > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120901/f1d5206c/attachment.html> > > > > --Forwarded Message Attachment-- > From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:31:23 -0600 > Subject: [Rovernet ] 3500S manual gearbox conversion > > > I've finally had it with the "clunking" of my BW35 in my 3500S. The entire drive line has been expertly rebuilt, and I know I've seen several posts about others acknowledging that no matter what one does, the clunk is a 'given' with this car. > To this end, I'm wondering if others can give me an idea of just how difficult it is to convert the NADA to a 5 speed manual. I'd also like to know ahead of time if my assumption is correct; i.e., that with a clutch and manual transmission, the clunk will be a thing of the past. > Thanks in advance for any help. > Lance La Certe, '70 3500S > > Lance La Certe, Psy.D.Ecrasez l'infame > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120901/bca73f07/attachment.html> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120902/37918401/attachment.html> > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210 503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile) -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Bill Robertson Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 12:56 PM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rovernet Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1 RE: Lance's Clunk Hi Lance......just where abouts are you getting the clunk......in the drivetrain or from the rear suspension......I have both a NADA 3500S manual 5speed (SD1) conversion and an NADA automatic 3500S.......I can't say i have any clunking through the drivetrain...same with my 2000TC.......i do have some clunking when i hit bumps through the rear suspension hitting the bump stops i think....but ...mostly when trunk is fully loaded......i'd check your u joints on the driveshaft and halfshafts if it is a constant thunk or that the transmission mount is in good condition and the bushings are all good.........Or are you referring to a hard shift through the torque converter..........I never trust anyone elses work........LMAO or my own sometimes CheersBill Robertson From: rovernet-request at rovernet.ca Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1 To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 12:00:02 -0600 Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to rovernet at rovernet.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.ca or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rovernet-request at rovernet.ca You can reach the person managing the list at rovernet-owner at rovernet.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Rovernet digest..." --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: lacpsyd6 at msn.com To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:15:04 -0600 Subject: [Rovernet ] Art in its purest form How could any of us doubt that Rover will live forever, elevated to high art!!!!! http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/exhibitions/modernwing/artwork/193864 Lance La Certe, Psy.D.Ecrasez l'infame -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, -- Bill Daddis From kkinard at att.net Mon Sep 3 18:51:48 2012 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:51:48 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] 2200 Oil filter In-Reply-To: <50454C7D.5050607@roverclub.org> References: <50454C7D.5050607@roverclub.org> Message-ID: <504550A4.4050200@att.net> Hi Bill, Who has a 2200 in North America? Roverly, Kent K. Magnet wrote: > > I have received an enquiry from a chap with a 1975 2200 P6, who wants > to know what oil filter from any of the usual N. American suppliers is > correct for his car. > > Can anyone help? > > Cheers, > > -- Bill Daddis > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From kkinard at att.net Mon Sep 3 19:24:22 2012 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:24:22 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] 2200 Oil filter In-Reply-To: <50454C7D.5050607@roverclub.org> References: <50454C7D.5050607@roverclub.org> Message-ID: <50455846.6070002@att.net> Fram 2821A has the required anti-drainback valve, but I don't like Fram filters. Purolator PL30001 or L30001. Kent K. Magnet wrote: > > I have received an enquiry from a chap with a 1975 2200 P6, who wants > to know what oil filter from any of the usual N. American suppliers is > correct for his car. > > Can anyone help? > > Cheers, > > -- Bill Daddis > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From magnet at roverclub.org Tue Sep 4 17:44:29 2012 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:44:29 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] P4 universal joints Message-ID: <5046925D.4040205@roverclub.org> Just finished replacing the two U-joints on the rear prop shaft of my 1959 "90". Did some research to identify an aftermarket equivalent that could be sourced from a local car parts supplier. For reference, here are the equivalents to the original Hardy-Spicer joint: Hardy-Spicer: K5 L4R NAPA: 344 Precision: 344 GMB: 215-1100 or 220-1100 Spicer (USA): 1300 These joints are also used on Triumph TR-4,5, and 6 and on 1983-1990 Volvo 740 and 760 models. The bearing cup diameter is 1.0625" and the cross dimension is 2.942". Note that the above U-joints fit P4 models prior to 1960, that is, 60,75,90, and 105. 1960 and later models (80, 100, 95, 110) use a different joint. Hope this info helps someone... Cheers, -- Bill From gbbourque at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 17:46:54 2012 From: gbbourque at gmail.com (garrett bourque) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:46:54 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] 2200 Oil filter In-Reply-To: <50454C7D.5050607@roverclub.org> References: <50454C7D.5050607@roverclub.org> Message-ID: <CAJBLATRddYWb6CSWjCUMBaKYd-qYYjTTmML2QaqnVq9Ber7EKw@mail.gmail.com> Hello Bill, As far as oil filters go, this is the limited amount of knowlege I have. It is from the sides of several oil filter boxes that I have here in stock. A disposable screw on filter is shared between an MGB from the early 70s and a Rover 2000 that takes a screw on disposible filter. Earlier versions of each car, a Rover 2000 and an MGB took filter elements which did not screw on to the engine, but fit inside steel canisters. I am not sure what a 2200 takes. I hope this helps to some extent. Sincerely, Garrett Bourque On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: > > I have received an enquiry from a chap with a 1975 2200 P6, who wants to > know what oil filter from any of the usual N. American suppliers is correct > for his car. > > Can anyone help? > > Cheers, > > -- Bill Daddis > > **************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/Rover_net/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120904/75b247d8/attachment.html> From kkinard at att.net Sat Sep 8 17:06:16 2012 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:06:16 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered In-Reply-To: <COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl> References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com>, <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl> <COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> Hi Netters, This afternoon I visited with some new friends in Austin, Texas, Stephanie Smith and Greg Goshorn. I met Greg through the good offices of Pierre Janusz when Pierre visited us both on his way across the USA. Greg and Stephanie visited me at Medina on Labor Day and I visited them this afternoon. They are both Rover lovers and have quite a few P6t h's. Greg's latest addition is the 1971 2000TC that he bought from Jim Cumberland a year or so ago. The car needed quite a bit of mechanical work and is now on the road fitted with a lovely set of Magstar wheels. (email me direct if you want pics) Greg expects to take it to Texas All British Car Day at Round Rock the end of this month. He also has a nice 1967 2000TC that he bought in Canada and which awaits completion. Stephanie's preference is for P6B's but her Tobacco Leaf 3500S (his name is Raleigh) has been off the road for several years awaiting repairs. They have one P6 and three P6B parts cars and many used spares. Hard to believe that we have been so close geographically and it took a visit from Pierre to bring us together!! I took Albert Jacob with me and Albert got excited about taking his 2000TC to Round Rock as well. Although it is the largest British show in Texas, there has never been a Rover saloon in attendance. Too bad I have to work on Sundays:-) Roverly, Kent K. From magnet at roverclub.org Sat Sep 8 17:40:00 2012 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:40:00 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825/Sterling Fuel Pump Relay Message-ID: <504BD750.60309@roverclub.org> Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault on Hondas and Acuras, and the 825 using the Honda-sourced engine suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to start. The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to the left of the steering column. Details are here: http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html Cheers, -- Bill D. From britishrover at gmail.com Sat Sep 8 18:23:28 2012 From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 20:23:28 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered In-Reply-To: <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com> <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl> <COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl> <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> Message-ID: <CAKQjg_SdiniQ3csFBQ+hX=Qv1pkM-UCxiRFSb9D0Ur2t2Z_HXA@mail.gmail.com> ...nice story/ thanks for sharing... From magnet at roverclub.org Sun Sep 9 05:41:37 2012 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 07:41:37 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay Message-ID: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to start. The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to the left of the steering column. Details are here: http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) Cheers, -- Bill D. From britishrover at gmail.com Sun Sep 9 07:53:47 2012 From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:53:47 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> Message-ID: <CAKQjg_ReNUg7nwb5E88miris7yohx_uSQHCXLBaJ_AhmQgQ-Ew@mail.gmail.com> Good to know, thanks very much...Where are You located? /Dave 827 sli On 9/9/12, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: > > Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this > useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault > on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine > suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to > start. > > The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong > magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about > 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to > the left of the steering column. > > Details are here: > > http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html > > Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) > > Cheers, > > -- Bill D. > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From mgconnor11 at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 9 09:24:35 2012 From: mgconnor11 at sbcglobal.net (Michael Connor) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered In-Reply-To: <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com>, <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl> <COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl> <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> Message-ID: <1347204275.5017.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Kent Your post reminded me ,are you going to the Round Rock meet? I have entered the P4 so it will be good that at least one other Rover will be there. I guess that I will meet these folks there. I am bringing home my car from my metal/paint and other restoration guy.He had to cut out a lot of not very good metal repairs the car came from the U.K. . Many more $$$. Also ended up having to repaint the bottom half but at least there?are no more bubbles coming through the paint work. I hope you make it?to Round Rock. Mike ________________________________ From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 6:06:16 PM Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered Hi Netters, This afternoon I visited with some new friends in Austin, Texas, Stephanie Smith and Greg Goshorn. I met Greg through the good offices of Pierre Janusz when Pierre visited us both on his way across the USA. Greg and Stephanie visited me at Medina on Labor Day and I visited them this afternoon. They are both Rover lovers and have quite a few P6t h's. Greg's latest addition is the 1971 2000TC that he bought from Jim Cumberland a year or so ago. The car needed quite a bit of mechanical work and is now on the road fitted with a lovely set of Magstar wheels. (email me direct if you want pics) Greg expects to take it to Texas All British Car Day at Round Rock the end of this month. He also has a nice 1967 2000TC that he bought in Canada and which awaits completion. Stephanie's preference is for P6B's but her Tobacco Leaf 3500S (his name is Raleigh) has been off the road for several years awaiting repairs. They have one P6 and three P6B parts cars and many used spares. Hard to believe that we have been so close geographically and it took a visit from Pierre to bring us together!! I took Albert Jacob with me and Albert got excited about taking his 2000TC to Round Rock as well. Although it is the largest British show in Texas, there has never been a Rover saloon in attendance. 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Ben Saunders bsaunders at firstva.com 434 842 3667 -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of British Rover Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:54 AM To: Rovernet Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay Good to know, thanks very much...Where are You located? /Dave 827 sli On 9/9/12, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: > > Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this > useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault > on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine > suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure > to start. > > The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong > magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, > about 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the > facia to the left of the steering column. > > Details are here: > > http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html > > Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) > > Cheers, > > -- Bill D. > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2196 / Virus Database: 2437/5258 - Release Date: 09/09/12 From kkinard at att.net Sun Sep 9 12:40:25 2012 From: kkinard at att.net (Kent Kinard) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 13:40:25 -0500 Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered In-Reply-To: <1347204275.5017.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com>, <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl> <COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl> <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> <1347204275.5017.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <504CE299.2060109@att.net> Hi Mike, No, I won't be at Round Rock. I have to work that Sunday. I'm sorry you have had to do so much rust repair, but am glad it's all done. Your 105 will put them all in the shade. Have a great weekend. Roverly, Kent K. Michael Connor wrote: > Hi Kent > Your post reminded me ,are you going to the Round Rock meet? I have entered the > P4 so it will be good that at least one other Rover will be there. I guess that > I will meet these folks there. I am bringing home my car from my metal/paint and > other restoration guy.He had to cut out a lot of not very good metal repairs the > car came from the U.K. . Many more $$$. Also ended up having to repaint the > bottom half but at least there are no more bubbles coming through the paint > work. I hope you make it to Round Rock. > Mike > > > > ________________________________ > From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> > To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 6:06:16 PM > Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered > > > Hi Netters, > This afternoon I visited with some new friends in Austin, Texas, Stephanie Smith > and Greg Goshorn. I met Greg through the good offices of Pierre Janusz when > Pierre visited us both on his way across the USA. Greg and Stephanie visited me > at Medina on Labor Day and I visited them this afternoon. They are both Rover > lovers and have quite a few P6t h's. Greg's latest addition is the 1971 2000TC > that he bought from Jim Cumberland a year or so ago. The car needed quite a bit > of mechanical work and is now on the road fitted with a lovely set of Magstar > wheels. (email me direct if you want pics) Greg expects to take it to Texas All > British Car Day at Round Rock the end of this month. He also has a nice 1967 > 2000TC that he bought in Canada and which awaits completion. Stephanie's > preference is for P6B's but her Tobacco Leaf 3500S (his name is Raleigh) has > been off the road for several years awaiting repairs. They have one P6 and three > P6B parts cars and many used spares. Hard to believe that we have been so close > geographically and it took a visit from Pierre to bring us together!! > > I took Albert Jacob with me and Albert got excited about taking his 2000TC to > Round Rock as well. Although it is the largest British show in Texas, there has > never been a Rover saloon in attendance. Too bad I have to work on Sundays:-) > > Roverly, > Kent K. > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120909/561f90d8/attachment.html> > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From magnet at roverclub.org Sun Sep 9 12:52:51 2012 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 14:52:51 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <CAKQjg_ReNUg7nwb5E88miris7yohx_uSQHCXLBaJ_AhmQgQ-Ew@mail.gmail.com> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> <CAKQjg_ReNUg7nwb5E88miris7yohx_uSQHCXLBaJ_AhmQgQ-Ew@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <504CE583.7000100@roverclub.org> I'm in Aurora, Ontario, about 25 north of Toronto. Another unforeseen benefit of fixing that relay is that it got rid of a hesitancy / misfire for the first 45 seconds or so after starting. The car has had that problem for about 10 years, and I always put it down to something wrong with whatever passes for the automatic choke in these cars. It must have been erratic fuel pump operation from the dodgy relay. If I'd known about the reputation of those relays, I'd have swapped it out ages ago. (Can't blame Joe Lucas for this one, it's a Japanese relay! ;-) ) Cheers, -- Bill On 09-Sep-12 9:53 AM, British Rover wrote: > Good to know, thanks very much...Where are You located? /Dave 827 sli > > On 9/9/12, Magnet<magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: >> Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this >> useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault >> on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine >> suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to >> start. >> >> The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong >> magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about >> 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to >> the left of the steering column. >> >> Details are here: >> >> http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html >> >> Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- Bill D. > From magnet at roverclub.org Sun Sep 9 13:15:16 2012 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:15:16 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] British Car Day Message-ID: <504CEAC4.9070306@roverclub.org> This coming Sunday, 16 September, is the date for the annual British Car Day in Bronte Creek Park, near Burlington, Ontario, not too far from Niagara Falls. This is a great event for British cars and their owners, and every year there are at least a few Rovers present. Some years back there were 12, which out of some 1000 cars that attend the event, isn't really a lot, but it was better than the year before last, when there were only two Rovers on show. I always go with one car or another, as I think it's important to keep enough Rovers coming so that the organisers of the show will maintain a separate class for the marque. This year, however, I will be unable to attend, as my son is getting married on that date, and has requisitioned my P4 as transport and me as chauffeur. So I urge everyone who can to get your Rover out to Bronte next Sunday. It's a fun event, and it's down to us to keep the Rover flag flying! Details are available at: http://www.torontotriumph.com/BCD/ Cheers, -- Bill Daddis From geffandjulie at comcast.net Sun Sep 9 15:23:41 2012 From: geffandjulie at comcast.net (Geff McCarthy) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 14:23:41 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> Message-ID: <0ac701cd8ed1$62d2bea0$28783be0$@net> Dale Charles, the USA Sterling guy, has new relays. sterlingfixer at juno.com (717) 367-8324 He is in PA. AvMedSafe Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210 503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile) -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Magnet Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 4:42 AM To: ROVERNET Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to start. The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to the left of the steering column. Details are here: http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) Cheers, -- Bill D. ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From peterhut at activ8.net.au Sun Sep 9 17:46:07 2012 From: peterhut at activ8.net.au (Peter Huttemeier) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:46:07 +1000 Subject: [Rovernet ] Art in its purest form In-Reply-To: <COL111-W1881BF4605AC8755762BC483A50@phx.gbl> References: <COL111-W1881BF4605AC8755762BC483A50@phx.gbl> Message-ID: <1baq48d8uc7982mllki7no9118keb8cj83@4ax.com> On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:15:04 -0600, you wrote: > > >How could any of us doubt that Rover will live forever, elevated to high art!!!!! >http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/exhibitions/modernwing/artwork/193864 Looks more like a P6 seat, Rover 2000 rather than a 200. BTW if you want to see a car as a work of art, here in Tasmania at Museum of Old and New Art (MONA) there is an art installation using a 3500 SE, see Rover Club Flickr photos: www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/sets/72157625787818317/ Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ From britishrover at gmail.com Sun Sep 9 18:40:06 2012 From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:40:06 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Art in its purest form In-Reply-To: <1baq48d8uc7982mllki7no9118keb8cj83@4ax.com> References: <COL111-W1881BF4605AC8755762BC483A50@phx.gbl> <1baq48d8uc7982mllki7no9118keb8cj83@4ax.com> Message-ID: <CAKQjg_Qz=2x5yBdJsAR+7BUneYDbRtARQjxcUqnsun139wYcMg@mail.gmail.com> Don't Show Me Any More...a Beached Whale, that coulda been SAVED!!..hehe From relliott44 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 04:50:57 2012 From: relliott44 at yahoo.com (Richard Elliott) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 03:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered In-Reply-To: <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com>, <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl> <COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl> <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> Message-ID: <1347274257.24995.YahooMailNeo@web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Kent, Let's hear it for Tobacco Leaf P6Bs (running or not)!? I have never heard of the Round Rock event - thank you for sharing. Rich Elliott 1966 2000TC Blue Label 1970 P6B Tobacco Leaf ________________________________ From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 6:06 PM Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered Hi Netters, This afternoon I visited with some new friends in Austin, Texas, Stephanie Smith and Greg Goshorn. I met Greg through the good offices of Pierre Janusz when Pierre visited us both on his way across the USA. Greg and Stephanie visited me at Medina on Labor Day and I visited them this afternoon. They are both Rover lovers and have quite a few P6t h's. Greg's latest addition is the 1971 2000TC that he bought from Jim Cumberland a year or so ago. The car needed quite a bit of mechanical work and is now on the road fitted with a lovely set of Magstar wheels. (email me direct if you want pics) Greg expects to take it to Texas All British Car Day at Round Rock the end of this month. He also has a nice 1967 2000TC that he bought in Canada and which awaits completion. Stephanie's preference is for P6B's but her Tobacco Leaf 3500S (his name is Raleigh) has been off the road for several years awaiting repairs. They have one P6 and three P6B parts cars and many used spares. Hard to believe that we have been so close geographically and it took a visit from Pierre to bring us together!! I took Albert Jacob with me and Albert got excited about taking his 2000TC to Round Rock as well. Although it is the largest British show in Texas, there has never been a Rover saloon in attendance. Too bad I have to work on Sundays:-) Roverly, Kent K. ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120910/aece31c4/attachment.html> From jLewis at wsscwater.com Mon Sep 10 06:35:28 2012 From: jLewis at wsscwater.com (Lewis, Joseph (Michael)) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:35:28 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> Message-ID: <B263CD0849EEED4496950A6F1247AB6C015C6C29@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root> I seem to have the same problem. It only shows up on really hot summer days. In the morning it will start and run fine but later in the day it refuses to. If I let it sit for 15-30 minutes then it finally starts again. This problem occurs on both Sterling's. Once the days cool off in the fall it starts just fine until next summer. I've had this issue for at least 10 years and have kind of learned to work with it. I've tried everything but could never find the solution. Thanks for the info Bill D. J. Michael Lewis Annapolis, Maryland USA 91 Sterling 827 Si 91 Sterling 827 SLi 80 Rover SD1 74 Jensen Interceptor -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of Magnet Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:42 AM To: ROVERNET Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to start. The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to the left of the steering column. Details are here: http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) Cheers, -- Bill D. ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From britishrover at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 06:59:47 2012 From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:59:47 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <B263CD0849EEED4496950A6F1247AB6C015C6C29@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> <B263CD0849EEED4496950A6F1247AB6C015C6C29@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root> Message-ID: <CAKQjg_SCc3+Kf-yU0vAVWf6ZizSQXjqf6f=mGL-qyhG7ZgFMTw@mail.gmail.com> at Michael, Yes this has happened on maybe three occasions to me, however it will start within maybe 15 seconds of the original non start... I finally supposedly have secured a Haynes Workshop Manuel for this car, yet I haven't received it yet from the UK. Dave On 9/10/12, Lewis, Joseph (Michael) <jLewis at wsscwater.com> wrote: > > I seem to have the same problem. It only shows up on really hot summer > days. In the morning it will start and run fine but later in the day it > refuses to. If I let it sit for 15-30 minutes then it finally starts > again. > This problem occurs on both Sterling's. Once the days cool off in the > fall it starts just fine until next summer. I've had this issue for at > least 10 years and have kind of learned to work with it. I've tried > everything but could never find the solution. > > Thanks for the info Bill D. > > J. Michael Lewis > Annapolis, Maryland USA > > 91 Sterling 827 Si > 91 Sterling 827 SLi > 80 Rover SD1 > 74 Jensen Interceptor > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] > On Behalf Of Magnet > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:42 AM > To: ROVERNET > Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay > > > Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this > useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault > on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine > suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to > start. > > The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong > magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about > > 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to > the left of the steering column. > > Details are here: > > http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html > > Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) > > Cheers, > > -- Bill D. > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From jaguru at bellsouth.net Mon Sep 10 07:49:32 2012 From: jaguru at bellsouth.net (jaguru at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:49:32 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <CAKQjg_ReNUg7nwb5E88miris7yohx_uSQHCXLBaJ_AhmQgQ-Ew@mail.gmail.com> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> <CAKQjg_ReNUg7nwb5E88miris7yohx_uSQHCXLBaJ_AhmQgQ-Ew@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8BD527E7654C4CB388E1C154CA4F5859@JamesDeanPC1> Wasn't this starte4r relay (Behind the glove box) a cause of similar problems on a SD1? Did they still use the same relay on the Sterling? James Dean, Ft. Lauderdale ----- Original Message ----- From: "British Rover" <britishrover at gmail.com> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay > > Good to know, thanks very much...Where are You located? /Dave 827 sli > > On 9/9/12, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: >> >> Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this >> useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault >> on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine >> suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to >> start. >> >> The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong >> magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about >> 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to >> the left of the steering column. >> >> Details are here: >> >> http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html >> >> Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- Bill D. >> >> ************************************** >> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > From mgconnor11 at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 10 07:53:56 2012 From: mgconnor11 at sbcglobal.net (Michael Connor) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered In-Reply-To: <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com>, <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl> <COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl> <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> Message-ID: <1347285236.74922.YahooMailRC@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hey Kent All you have to do is call in sick. Mike ________________________________ From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 6:06:16 PM Subject: [Rovernet ] New Rover stash discovered Hi Netters, This afternoon I visited with some new friends in Austin, Texas, Stephanie Smith and Greg Goshorn. I met Greg through the good offices of Pierre Janusz when Pierre visited us both on his way across the USA. Greg and Stephanie visited me at Medina on Labor Day and I visited them this afternoon. They are both Rover lovers and have quite a few P6t h's. Greg's latest addition is the 1971 2000TC that he bought from Jim Cumberland a year or so ago. The car needed quite a bit of mechanical work and is now on the road fitted with a lovely set of Magstar wheels. (email me direct if you want pics) Greg expects to take it to Texas All British Car Day at Round Rock the end of this month. He also has a nice 1967 2000TC that he bought in Canada and which awaits completion. Stephanie's preference is for P6B's but her Tobacco Leaf 3500S (his name is Raleigh) has been off the road for several years awaiting repairs. They have one P6 and three P6B parts cars and many used spares. Hard to believe that we have been so close geographically and it took a visit from Pierre to bring us together!! I took Albert Jacob with me and Albert got excited about taking his 2000TC to Round Rock as well. Although it is the largest British show in Texas, there has never been a Rover saloon in attendance. Too bad I have to work on Sundays:-) Roverly, Kent K. ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120910/8489b533/attachment.html> From sdibdin at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 07:55:41 2012 From: sdibdin at gmail.com (Steven Dibdin) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:55:41 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <8BD527E7654C4CB388E1C154CA4F5859@JamesDeanPC1> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> <CAKQjg_ReNUg7nwb5E88miris7yohx_uSQHCXLBaJ_AhmQgQ-Ew@mail.gmail.com> <8BD527E7654C4CB388E1C154CA4F5859@JamesDeanPC1> Message-ID: <CAC5dAAdcbTe=40zuspAq-GeRrZL35o-VDAm0C3PRya6zGmeZfQ@mail.gmail.com> I know the Honda fuel pump relay is notorious for failing on hot days (so much so it turns up on car talk about once a month as an answer to a call in). On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:49 AM, <jaguru at bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Wasn't this starte4r relay (Behind the glove box) a cause of similar > problems on a SD1? Did they still use the same relay on the Sterling? James > Dean, Ft. Lauderdale > ----- Original Message ----- From: "British Rover" <britishrover at gmail.com > > > To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay > > > > >> Good to know, thanks very much...Where are You located? /Dave 827 sli >> >> On 9/9/12, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this >>> useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault >>> on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine >>> suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to >>> start. >>> >>> The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong >>> magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about >>> 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to >>> the left of the steering column. >>> >>> Details are here: >>> >>> http://techauto.awardspace.**com/mainrelay.html<http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html> >>> >>> Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> -- Bill D. >>> >>> **************************************** >>> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: >>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/Rover_net/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/> >>> >>> >>> >> **************************************** >> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/Rover_net/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/> >> >> > > **************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/**group/Rover_net/<http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120910/5874c3fb/attachment.html> From jLewis at wsscwater.com Mon Sep 10 08:24:06 2012 From: jLewis at wsscwater.com (Lewis, Joseph (Michael)) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:24:06 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <8BD527E7654C4CB388E1C154CA4F5859@JamesDeanPC1> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org><CAKQjg_ReNUg7nwb5E88miris7yohx_uSQHCXLBaJ_AhmQgQ-Ew@mail.gmail.com> <8BD527E7654C4CB388E1C154CA4F5859@JamesDeanPC1> Message-ID: <B263CD0849EEED4496950A6F1247AB6C015C6C30@COB-EXV-01.wssc.ad.root> Could have been but in 17 years owning my SD1 I've never had that problem. Other problems yes but not that. J. Michael Lewis Annapolis, Maryland USA 91 Sterling 827 Si 91 Sterling 827 SLi 80 Rover SD1 74 Jensen Interceptor -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of jaguru at bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:50 AM To: Rovernet Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay Wasn't this starte4r relay (Behind the glove box) a cause of similar problems on a SD1? Did they still use the same relay on the Sterling? James Dean, Ft. Lauderdale ----- Original Message ----- From: "British Rover" <britishrover at gmail.com> To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay > > Good to know, thanks very much...Where are You located? /Dave 827 sli > > On 9/9/12, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: >> >> Owners of these cars (are there many on the Rovernet?) might find this >> useful. It appears that failure of this relay is quite a common fault >> on Hondas and Acuras, and the Rover 825 using the Honda-sourced engine >> suffers from the same fault. The symptom is an intermittent failure to >> start. >> >> The good news is that the relay is usually fixable with a strong >> magnifying glass and a soldering iron. It's a black plastic box, about >> 1" by 2" by 1-1/2", fastened up (by an 8mm bolt) under the facia to >> the left of the steering column. >> >> Details are here: >> >> http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html >> >> Three guesses what I was up to this week-end. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- Bill D. >> >> ************************************** >> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From magnet at roverclub.org Mon Sep 10 09:41:42 2012 From: magnet at roverclub.org (Magnet) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:41:42 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <8BD527E7654C4CB388E1C154CA4F5859@JamesDeanPC1> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> <CAKQjg_ReNUg7nwb5E88miris7yohx_uSQHCXLBaJ_AhmQgQ-Ew@mail.gmail.com> <8BD527E7654C4CB388E1C154CA4F5859@JamesDeanPC1> Message-ID: <504E0A36.20800@roverclub.org> Hi James, No, this is a different (Japanese) relay, same as was used on the Acura Legend 2.5 V6. Some time back we had starter relay issues on my son's SD-1, I think that was a Bosch relay. They ought to have used Lucas! :-) Cheers, -- Bill D. On 10-Sep-12 9:49 AM, jaguru at bellsouth.net wrote: > > Wasn't this starte4r relay (Behind the glove box) a cause of similar > problems on a SD1? Did they still use the same relay on the Sterling? > James Dean, Ft. Lauderdale > > From britishrover at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 14:34:33 2012 From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:34:33 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover 825 / Sterling fuel pump relay In-Reply-To: <504E0A36.20800@roverclub.org> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> <CAKQjg_ReNUg7nwb5E88miris7yohx_uSQHCXLBaJ_AhmQgQ-Ew@mail.gmail.com> <8BD527E7654C4CB388E1C154CA4F5859@JamesDeanPC1> <504E0A36.20800@roverclub.org> Message-ID: <CAKQjg_SCt0U0yCvEhXZxE2mv7k5GF5Bwp7oDk1Py0QMeGXW2Og@mail.gmail.com> thanks for sharing info x2 Dave 827 Sli SD1 x3 On 9/10/12, Magnet <magnet at roverclub.org> wrote: > > Hi James, > > No, this is a different (Japanese) relay, same as was used on the Acura > Legend 2.5 V6. > > Some time back we had starter relay issues on my son's SD-1, I think > that was a Bosch relay. > > They ought to have used Lucas! :-) > > Cheers, > > -- Bill D. > > > > > On 10-Sep-12 9:49 AM, jaguru at bellsouth.net wrote: >> >> Wasn't this starte4r relay (Behind the glove box) a cause of similar >> problems on a SD1? Did they still use the same relay on the Sterling? >> James Dean, Ft. Lauderdale >> >> > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From veetwinrider at yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 21:23:13 2012 From: veetwinrider at yahoo.com (roland) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Rovernet ] Art in its purest form In-Reply-To: <1baq48d8uc7982mllki7no9118keb8cj83@4ax.com> Message-ID: <1347333793.93362.YahooMailClassic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Isn't the seat used on Top Gear from a Rover P5? roland --- On Sun, 9/9/12, Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au> wrote: From: Peter Huttemeier <peterhut at activ8.net.au> Subject: Re: [Rovernet ] Art in its purest form To: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Date: Sunday, September 9, 2012, 4:46 PM On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:15:04 -0600, you wrote: > > >How could any of us doubt that Rover will live forever, elevated to high art!!!!! >http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/exhibitions/modernwing/artwork/193864 Looks more like a P6 seat, Rover 2000 rather than a 200. BTW if you want to see a car as a work of art, here in Tasmania at Museum of Old and New Art (MONA) there is an art installation using a 3500 SE, see Rover Club Flickr photos: www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/sets/72157625787818317/ Cheers, Peter Huttemeier Webmaster Rover Car Club of Australia Inc http://www.rovercarclubaust.asn.au/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/ ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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R?diger www.RoverP6.info From RoverP6 at gmx.de Wed Sep 19 12:14:31 2012 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:14:31 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] unknown NADA P6 3500S References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com>, <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl><COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl><504BCF68.8040208@att.net><1347274257.24995.YahooMailNeo@web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <F67A2DC57A974C4AA05C7E62C8A15AB3@rw> Message-ID: <49C9944B526D43509DBB1967C534553D@rw> http://www.flickr.com/photos/zagatto/7998021955/ owner on Rovernet ? Rudiger www.RoverP6.info From RoverP6 at gmx.de Thu Sep 20 13:49:31 2012 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:49:31 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover - Drive / You Tube-Video References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com>, <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl><COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl><504BCF68.8040208@att.net><1347274257.24995.YahooMailNeo@web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><F67A2DC57A974C4AA05C7E62C8A15AB3@rw> <49C9944B526D43509DBB1967C534553D@rw> Message-ID: <5EDA6D5DAF914A4592C7B697C38949EB@rw> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plHa-pX8WIs&feature=youtube_gdata_player Rudiger www.RoverP6.info From britishrover at gmail.com Sat Sep 22 20:53:05 2012 From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 22:53:05 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover - Drive / You Tube-Video In-Reply-To: <5EDA6D5DAF914A4592C7B697C38949EB@rw> References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com> <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl> <COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl> <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> <1347274257.24995.YahooMailNeo@web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <F67A2DC57A974C4AA05C7E62C8A15AB3@rw> <49C9944B526D43509DBB1967C534553D@rw> <5EDA6D5DAF914A4592C7B697C38949EB@rw> Message-ID: <CAKQjg_RSvE+ZXCsSLupHD-y08JAW3zjhsd-EVgf6F6gmLB16yQ@mail.gmail.com> ...What Country, and City??..I see Left-Hand Drive...;O) On 9/20/12, RoverP6 at gmx.de <RoverP6 at gmx.de> wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plHa-pX8WIs&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > > Rudiger > www.RoverP6.info > > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From RoverP6 at gmx.de Sat Sep 22 23:04:59 2012 From: RoverP6 at gmx.de (RoverP6 at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:04:59 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover - Drive / You Tube-Video References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com><BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl><COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl><504BCF68.8040208@att.net><1347274257.24995.YahooMailNeo@web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><F67A2DC57A974C4AA05C7E62C8A15AB3@rw><49C9944B526D43509DBB1967C534553D@rw><5EDA6D5DAF914A4592C7B697C38949EB@rw> <CAKQjg_RSvE+ZXCsSLupHD-y08JAW3zjhsd-EVgf6F6gmLB16yQ@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1D472DB7C3B4459FBFD236271F63CCD5@rw> Germany see http://benzinrausch.com/werkstattleistungen/ Rudiger www.RoverP6.info -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: "British Rover" <britishrover at gmail.com> An: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. September 2012 04:53 Betreff: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover - Drive / You Tube-Video ...What Country, and City??..I see Left-Hand Drive...;O) On 9/20/12, RoverP6 at gmx.de <RoverP6 at gmx.de> wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plHa-pX8WIs&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > > Rudiger > www.RoverP6.info > > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From britishrover at gmail.com Sun Sep 23 06:45:24 2012 From: britishrover at gmail.com (British Rover) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:45:24 -0400 Subject: [Rovernet ] Rover - Drive / You Tube-Video In-Reply-To: <1D472DB7C3B4459FBFD236271F63CCD5@rw> References: <mailman.0.1346608802.28640.rovernet_rovernet.ca@rsj20.rhostjh.com> <BAY153-W1368EF560A2F75B04AA051DEA40@phx.gbl> <COL111-W3194CB621BFAAA26C659A287AB0@phx.gbl> <504BCF68.8040208@att.net> <1347274257.24995.YahooMailNeo@web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <F67A2DC57A974C4AA05C7E62C8A15AB3@rw> <49C9944B526D43509DBB1967C534553D@rw> <5EDA6D5DAF914A4592C7B697C38949EB@rw> <CAKQjg_RSvE+ZXCsSLupHD-y08JAW3zjhsd-EVgf6F6gmLB16yQ@mail.gmail.com> <1D472DB7C3B4459FBFD236271F63CCD5@rw> Message-ID: <CAKQjg_RsvmGUDsU0tv9emKSaXNSpKDAQzO-aXr4AUxUQNh13AQ@mail.gmail.com> by the way there is a Rover and MG in Germany site..but there aren't many older ones on it....just thought you might want to know...:O) On 9/23/12, RoverP6 at gmx.de <RoverP6 at gmx.de> wrote: > > > > Germany > > see http://benzinrausch.com/werkstattleistungen/ > > > Rudiger > www.RoverP6.info > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "British Rover" <britishrover at gmail.com> > An: "Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.ca> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. September 2012 04:53 > Betreff: Re: [Rovernet ] Rover - Drive / You Tube-Video > > > > ...What Country, and City??..I see Left-Hand Drive...;O) > > > On 9/20/12, RoverP6 at gmx.de <RoverP6 at gmx.de> wrote: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plHa-pX8WIs&feature=youtube_gdata_player >> >> >> Rudiger >> www.RoverP6.info >> >> >> >> ************************************** >> Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ >> >> > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > > From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Wed Sep 26 04:55:36 2012 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:55:36 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals In-Reply-To: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org> Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA2F8F@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Hi, please, any good address to find p6 window seals? It is for a fellow owner here in Italy, and I can' t find the recipies of the ones I bought several years ago. Best regards and thenks in advance, GR. From irishrover1 at live.com Wed Sep 26 04:31:15 2012 From: irishrover1 at live.com (Frederick Ben Rodgers) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:31:15 -0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals In-Reply-To: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA2F8F@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org>, <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA2F8F@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <COL111-W63C0C0EC82F0836B343659879C0@phx.gbl> Try Scotts Old Rubber in Australia, he is on Rovernet and Facebook. Ben Author of LILY & ME , and THE ROYAL NAVY & ME Visit blog and website wwwirishroversbooks.com > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:55:36 +0200 > From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals > > > Hi, please, any good address to find p6 window seals? > It is for a fellow owner here in Italy, and I can' t find the recipies > of the ones I bought several years ago. > > Best regards and thenks in advance, GR. > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is for a fellow owner here in Italy, and I can' t find the recipies of the ones I bought several years ago. Best regards and thenks in advance, GR. ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2441/5290 - Release Date: 09/24/12 From scareycolin54 at live.co.uk Wed Sep 26 11:29:16 2012 From: scareycolin54 at live.co.uk (Colin Gould) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:29:16 +0000 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals In-Reply-To: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA2F8F@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org>, <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA2F8F@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <SNT145-W114BC203AA5A02DE5D0F30F879C0@phx.gbl> Hello everybody in the rover world, I have door to window glass seals avaliable complete with metal insert to hold them straight and a rubber blade (which touches the glass that is flocked on the inside) avaliable exstock from ?140 per set of 4 (+VAT where applicable) +post and packaging. Some people say these are better than the originals :-) Colin > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:55:36 +0200 > From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com > To: rovernet at rovernet.ca > Subject: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals > > > Hi, please, any good address to find p6 window seals? > It is for a fellow owner here in Italy, and I can' t find the recipies > of the ones I bought several years ago. > > Best regards and thenks in advance, GR. > > ************************************** > Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120926/d62d035c/attachment.html> From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Thu Sep 27 02:00:16 2012 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:00:16 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: R: p6 window seals In-Reply-To: <57CB5E4E9E67443C803611067E0A8D7A@SD1> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org><39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA2F8F@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> <57CB5E4E9E67443C803611067E0A8D7A@SD1> Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA325E@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Thanks. And in Europe? -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Ben Saunders Inviato: mercoled? 26 settembre 2012 14:44 A: 'Rovernet' Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals Try http://www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au/. I get all my Rover rubber parts here. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:56 AM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals Hi, please, any good address to find p6 window seals? It is for a fellow owner here in Italy, and I can' t find the recipies of the ones I bought several years ago. Best regards and thenks in advance, GR. ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2441/5290 - Release Date: 09/24/12 ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From ianalice at shaw.ca Thu Sep 27 13:02:23 2012 From: ianalice at shaw.ca (Alice and Ian Potts) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:02:23 -0700 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: R: p6 window seals In-Reply-To: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA325E@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org><39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA2F8F@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel><57CB5E4E9E67443C803611067E0A8D7A@SD1> <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA325E@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Message-ID: <ECC933ED5F5C44E6B8F45F8843B11314@IandAlicePC> Gian, you can make them yourself from a thin black roll of flexible material obtained from a car window repair shop. They use the stuff to seat and seal new or replaced windows in any car......By using contact cement, you can overlay the new cut-to-size strip with contact cement. It will be impossible for anyone to notice other that that they are "new". This is a suggestion that I have done many times with the external break-up of the original window seals. So try it for what it is worth, on one window before spending a a lot of money and time on total replacements. Cheers, Ian Potts ----- Original Message ----- From: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:00 AM Subject: [Rovernet ] R: R: p6 window seals Thanks. And in Europe? -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Ben Saunders Inviato: mercoled? 26 settembre 2012 14:44 A: 'Rovernet' Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals Try http://www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au/. I get all my Rover rubber parts here. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:56 AM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals Hi, please, any good address to find p6 window seals? It is for a fellow owner here in Italy, and I can' t find the recipies of the ones I bought several years ago. Best regards and thenks in advance, GR. ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ----- No virus found in this message. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5293 - Release Date: 09/26/12 From gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Fri Sep 28 02:45:28 2012 From: gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com (gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:45:28 +0200 Subject: [Rovernet ] R: R: R: p6 window seals In-Reply-To: <ECC933ED5F5C44E6B8F45F8843B11314@IandAlicePC> References: <504C8071.8000205@roverclub.org><39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA2F8F@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel><57CB5E4E9E67443C803611067E0A8D7A@SD1><39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA325E@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> <ECC933ED5F5C44E6B8F45F8843B11314@IandAlicePC> Message-ID: <39DB493C9E968A40AD2FA5F90D4B959601FA3651@E3088LMQ.risorse.enel> Dear Ian, Thanks. Personally I replaced my oneds in 2006, and I remember it was not so easy to put them in place inside the door boxes. IKt is for a friend of mine, to whom I'll foreward your message. In the eighties in Italy was not very easy to find these seals and, generally for old cars, some people used to adapt pressure pot seals, easily obtainable. Pressure pot is the one you close mechanically with a leverage, it is sealed and keeps the pressure in . When you put it on the fire you cook in a short time. This cement, if I understand well, is a kind of silicon or a kind of glue. The kind of silicon which is used in these cases to prevent corrosion is not the normal one which is a bit acid, but the other expensive one which is used to seal the square fish bowls Thanks again, best regards, GR. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Alice and Ian Potts Inviato: gioved? 27 settembre 2012 21:02 A: Rovernet Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] R: R: p6 window seals Gian, you can make them yourself from a thin black roll of flexible material obtained from a car window repair shop. They use the stuff to seat and seal new or replaced windows in any car......By using contact cement, you can overlay the new cut-to-size strip with contact cement. It will be impossible for anyone to notice other that that they are "new". This is a suggestion that I have done many times with the external break-up of the original window seals. So try it for what it is worth, on one window before spending a a lot of money and time on total replacements. Cheers, Ian Potts ----- Original Message ----- From: <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com> To: <rovernet at rovernet.ca> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:00 AM Subject: [Rovernet ] R: R: p6 window seals Thanks. And in Europe? -----Messaggio originale----- Da: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] Per conto di Ben Saunders Inviato: mercoled? 26 settembre 2012 14:44 A: 'Rovernet' Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals Try http://www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au/. I get all my Rover rubber parts here. -----Original Message----- From: rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.ca] On Behalf Of gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:56 AM To: rovernet at rovernet.ca Subject: [Rovernet ] R: p6 window seals Hi, please, any good address to find p6 window seals? It is for a fellow owner here in Italy, and I can' t find the recipies of the ones I bought several years ago. Best regards and thenks in advance, GR. ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2441/5290 - Release Date: 09/24/12 ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5293 - Release Date: 09/26/12 ************************************** Join the back-up list or look at or post photos at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rover_net/ From steve at rover10.com Sat Sep 29 12:15:05 2012 From: steve at rover10.com (Steve Pemberton) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:15:05 +0100 Subject: [Rovernet ] A bit of History Message-ID: <01d501cd9e6e$5d1152e0$1733f8a0$@rover10.com> Hi All I don't post often, and this is a Bit off Subject but have a look at this Land Rover that's coming up for Auction End of next month http://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/cheffins-vintage-and-onsite -auctions/catalogue-id-3652/lot-1847319# Regards Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rsj20.rhostjh.com/mailman/private/rovernet_rovernet.ca/attachments/20120929/c856e8ee/attachment.html>