[ROVERNET - UK] Re: rovernet Digest, Vol 51, Issue 1

Alice and Ian Potts ianalice at shaw.ca
Thu Feb 1 18:47:03 GMT 2007


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> Today's Topics:
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>   1.  SD1 Gearbox (Nick and Laurie Hand)
>   2. Re:  SD1 Gearbox (Kent Kinard)
>   3. RE:  SD1 Gearbox (Paul Smith)
>   4. Re:  SD1 Gearbox (Nick and Laurie Hand)
>   5. Re:  SD-1 heads and plugs (geffandjulie)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:00:33 -0600
> From: "Nick and Laurie Hand" <flynp170 at cablelynx.com>
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] SD1 Gearbox
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> My SD1 gearbox [5speed] has a bearing noise and I intend to replace it 
> with
> one from my parts car. I read this on RPi engineering web site "Having
> supplied many reconditioned units in the past, we developed a replacement
> for this taper bearing, using a heavy duty non-tapered one. This can be
> fitted with very little fuss and ensures a more precise allignment for 
> many
> many thousands of miles."   Anyone replaced the front bearing with a non
> taper one? Thanks Nick
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:43:54 -0600
> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at wcc.net>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] SD1 Gearbox
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> Hi Nick,
> I've never done it.  RPI developed this replacement many
> years ago, but I'm not sure they even supply the parts any
> more.  I think it requires spliting the case and removing
> the first motion gear and doing some machining to it in
> order to fit a roller bearing to the front end of the
> mainshaft.  I'v never really seen this done, only heard
> about it.
>
> If the LT77 is not damaged, simply replacing the bearings,
> shimming properly according to the shop manual, and
> changing the trans fluid often should be good for 80k
> miles.  Swarf is the enemy of these transmissions.  It
> eats up or jams the oil pump.  Also, even a few miles of
> towing with the rear wheels on the ground is enough to
> destroy the trans, so always disconnect the driveshaft or
> tow it like you would an automatic with the front wheel on
> the ground.
>
> I don't think it's a good idea to just swap in an unknown
> transmission without a teardown and inspection.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:00:33 -0600
>  "Nick and Laurie Hand" <flynp170 at cablelynx.com> wrote:
>> My SD1 gearbox [5speed] has a bearing noise and I intend
>>to replace it with
>> one from my parts car. I read this on RPi engineering
>>web site "Having
>> supplied many reconditioned units in the past, we
>>developed a replacement
>> for this taper bearing, using a heavy duty non-tapered
>>one. This can be
>> fitted with very little fuss and ensures a more precise
>>allignment for many
>> many thousands of miles."   Anyone replaced the front
>>bearing with a non
>> taper one? Thanks Nick
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:24:21 +1100
> From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith at auroraenergy.com.au>
> Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] SD1 Gearbox
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> Why does towing it wreck it??  The oil pump isn't turning?  What about 
> BW35s in 2000s that have a rear oil pump?
>
> PVS
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> [mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com]On Behalf Of Kent Kinard
> Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 12:44 pm
> To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] SD1 Gearbox
>
>
> Hi Nick,
> I've never done it.  RPI developed this replacement many
> years ago, but I'm not sure they even supply the parts any
> more.  I think it requires spliting the case and removing
> the first motion gear and doing some machining to it in
> order to fit a roller bearing to the front end of the
> mainshaft.  I'v never really seen this done, only heard
> about it.
>
> If the LT77 is not damaged, simply replacing the bearings,
> shimming properly according to the shop manual, and
> changing the trans fluid often should be good for 80k
> miles.  Swarf is the enemy of these transmissions.  It
> eats up or jams the oil pump.  Also, even a few miles of
> towing with the rear wheels on the ground is enough to
> destroy the trans, so always disconnect the driveshaft or
> tow it like you would an automatic with the front wheel on
> the ground.
>
> I don't think it's a good idea to just swap in an unknown
> transmission without a teardown and inspection.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:00:33 -0600
>  "Nick and Laurie Hand" <flynp170 at cablelynx.com> wrote:
>> My SD1 gearbox [5speed] has a bearing noise and I intend
>>to replace it with
>> one from my parts car. I read this on RPi engineering
>>web site "Having
>> supplied many reconditioned units in the past, we
>>developed a replacement
>> for this taper bearing, using a heavy duty non-tapered
>>one. This can be
>> fitted with very little fuss and ensures a more precise
>>allignment for many
>> many thousands of miles."   Anyone replaced the front
>>bearing with a non
>> taper one? Thanks Nick
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:44:41 -0600
> From: "Nick and Laurie Hand" <flynp170 at cablelynx.com>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] SD1 Gearbox
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> Hi Kent,
> Just a recap of how I got to this point. I bought the car in Oregon with a
> bad transmission. I purchased a used transmission  from Rover shop in
> Oregon. Prior to installing replaced front & rear seals, did a cursory
> visual inspection, of what I could see. Transmission had a bearing noise
> from the beginning. 7000 miles now and does not seem to be any worse; but 
> I
> don't want to drive it to destruction. The plan was to drive this engine 
> and
> transmission a couple of years and  rebuild the engine and transmission in
> my parts car, to have a replacement on hand. I've driven parts car .
> Transmission is quiet and behaves normally. If I could replace the front
> bearing with out splitting the case I thought it might be worth while. 
> Nick
> From: "Kent Kinard" <kkinard at wcc.net>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] SD1 Gearbox
>
>
>> Hi Nick,
>> I've never done it.  RPI developed this replacement many
>> years ago, but I'm not sure they even supply the parts any
>> more.  I think it requires spliting the case and removing
>> the first motion gear and doing some machining to it in
>> order to fit a roller bearing to the front end of the
>> mainshaft.  I'v never really seen this done, only heard
>> about it.
>>
>> If the LT77 is not damaged, simply replacing the bearings,
>> shimming properly according to the shop manual, and
>> changing the trans fluid often should be good for 80k
>> miles.  Swarf is the enemy of these transmissions.  It
>> eats up or jams the oil pump.  Also, even a few miles of
>> towing with the rear wheels on the ground is enough to
>> destroy the trans, so always disconnect the driveshaft or
>> tow it like you would an automatic with the front wheel on
>> the ground.
>>
>> I don't think it's a good idea to just swap in an unknown
>> transmission without a teardown and inspection.
>>
>> Roverly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:00:33 -0600
>>   "Nick and Laurie Hand" <flynp170 at cablelynx.com> wrote:
>> > My SD1 gearbox [5speed] has a bearing noise and I intend
>> >to replace it with
>> > one from my parts car. I read this on RPi engineering
>> >web site "Having
>> > supplied many reconditioned units in the past, we
>> >developed a replacement
>> > for this taper bearing, using a heavy duty non-tapered
>> >one. This can be
>> > fitted with very little fuss and ensures a more precise
>> >allignment for many
>> > many thousands of miles."   Anyone replaced the front
>> >bearing with a non
>> > taper one? Thanks Nick
>> >
>> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:18:04 -0800
> From: "geffandjulie" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] SD-1 heads and plugs
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> Think so. It idles somewhat smoothly but will not accelerate.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Maher" <michael.maher at virgin.net>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] SD-1 heads and plugs
>
>
>> This may sound silly, but have you connected the plug leads in the 
>> correct
>> order?
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "geffandjulie" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>> To: "Rovernet05" <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:19 AM
>> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] SD-1 heads and plugs
>>
>>
>>>I have SD-1 heads on my 70 3500S. Based on Rovernet advice, I changed the
>>>possibly incorrect short reach plugs for the supposedly correct BP6ES 
>>>long
>>>reach, gapped to the correct 0.025".  It won't idle or run.
>>> Are there multiple types of SD-1 heads?  Could I really need the short
>>> reach plugs back in?? Thanks!
>>> Geff and Julie McCarthy
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