[ROVERNET - UK] RoveAmerica 08 event
Dirk Burrowes
dirk at vy-tek.com
Wed Apr 16 17:49:46 BST 2008
Hello All,
You should have received a email invitation from me or my wife Lysiane
regarding the RoveAmerica 08 event.
If you did not receive a email or would like me to resend it to you please
email me directly at either this email address or cars at roveramerica.com. You
can also go to www.RoverAmerica.com and sign up online at the site.
This is a completely FREE event with good food and awards etc. So I am
trying to get a accurate count of all who will attend. If you could do this
within the next week or so sooner if you can it would be a great help.
Thanks and I hope to see you at RoveAmerica 08
Dirk Burrowes
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: RE: 2000TC Ignition Timing (Netspace)
2. Re: RE: 2000TC Ignition Timing (Eric Russell)
3. Re: RE: 2000TC Ignition Timing (slatskars at comcast.net)
4. P6 in Beirut - indeed ! (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
5. RE: 3500s water pump rebuilds (Gavin.Walker at csiro.au)
6. P6 V8 for 7495 GBP (RoverP6 at gmx.de)
7. Blue and White Paint (griffo at comcast.net)
8. Re: Blue and White Paint (James Dean)
9. Re: Blue and White Paint (Peter King)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:24:08 +1000
From: "Netspace" <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: 2000TC Ignition Timing
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On the TC I just look at the dashpots (without the air filter...).
You can compare them quite easily, I think it is more accurate than
listening.
PVS
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From: <slatskars at comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: 2000TC Ignition Timing
> Adrian,
>
> The old way of carb mixture and balancing (before Unisyn's) was to raise
> the carb piston slightly using the pin or a small screwdriver. what you
> wanted was a slight increase in RPM followed by a drop in RPM. If it
> immediately dropped, the mixture was too lean. If it increased and kept
> increasing as the piston is raised, too rich. After setting the mixtures,
> put one end of a small diameter hose in your ear with the other ablut 1/2'
> into the throat of one carb and listen to the air flow. Compare it to the
> other and adjust them until the air flow sounds equal. Reconnect the
> linkage and you are good to go. It really works and did for many years. If
> you read the manual it will tell you to tune the mixture for the best
> speed (In American English, that is the highest RPM). that is a good place
> to start, but you ddo want that slight increase followed by the drop off.
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:05:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Russell <p6rovers at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: 2000TC Ignition Timing
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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Yes, that's my experience.
With 94 octane, my setting is in the 3 to 4 range.
Eric
--- Netspace <vmitps at netspace.net.au> wrote:
> 6 is ok with 97 or higher.
> With 95 I run around 4.
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian McDonald" <adrianmcdon at hotmail.com>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:06 PM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: 2000TC Ignition Timing
>
>
>
> Hello
>
> On the advice of a Rovernetter, I just adjusted my
> 2000TC timing from 4deg
> ATDC to 6deg BTDC. What a difference (or was I
> imagining it)? There is a
> lot more go, and things a bit smoother all round.
> And that is even with a
> bit of an iffy carburettor balancing / mixture
> setting job (no skills).
>
> I put Conoco 76, 100octane rocket fuel in it - mixed
> 50:50 with mere 91
> octane on the US scale
>
> Thanks!
> Adrian
> Redondo Beach
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:02:54 +0000
From: slatskars at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: 2000TC Ignition Timing
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You may be right, but in my limited experience (since 1958) I have had great
success with a piece of hose when a Unisyn is not available. This was the
tried and true method, before any of the later innovations. I never did like
those kits with the wires sticking out of the top of the carb. I highly
recommend the Unisyn, as you are measuring air flow not a physical height
element, when I hold my tech sessions for our Club T-MG group, but also
demonstrate the hose method. Surprisingly accurate!
Slats
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Netspace" <vmitps at netspace.net.au>
> On the TC I just look at the dashpots (without the air filter...).
> You can compare them quite easily, I think it is more accurate than
> listening.
>
> PVS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <slatskars at comcast.net>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] RE: 2000TC Ignition Timing
>
>
> > Adrian,
> >
> > The old way of carb mixture and balancing (before Unisyn's) was to raise
> > the carb piston slightly using the pin or a small screwdriver. what you
> > wanted was a slight increase in RPM followed by a drop in RPM. If it
> > immediately dropped, the mixture was too lean. If it increased and kept
> > increasing as the piston is raised, too rich. After setting the
mixtures,
> > put one end of a small diameter hose in your ear with the other ablut
1/2'
> > into the throat of one carb and listen to the air flow. Compare it to
the
> > other and adjust them until the air flow sounds equal. Reconnect the
> > linkage and you are good to go. It really works and did for many years.
If
> > you read the manual it will tell you to tune the mixture for the best
> > speed (In American English, that is the highest RPM). that is a good
place
> > to start, but you ddo want that slight increase followed by the drop
off.
> >
> >
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:50:49 +0200
From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 in Beirut - indeed !
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See http://www.flickr.com/photos/28098359@N00/2410644040/
Rudiger
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:59:02 +1000
From: <Gavin.Walker at csiro.au>
Subject: RE: [ROVERNET - UK] 3500s water pump rebuilds
To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
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Hi Everybody,
Picking up this thread. I ordered a couple of Buick pumps (TRW
FP1448/GMB 130-1070/Airtex AW1018) from the US. There are some minor
differences between them and the Rover SD1 pump.
Trivial one:
The small inlet branch which connects to the pipe under the manifold is
a little longer.
Slightly more annoying:
Two of the timing cover bolt positions have a thinner casting requiring
slightly shorter bolts. Not hard, new bolts cost me $1.50 each.
I'm having more trouble getting a pulling that matches. The platform
height is not too far from the one where the SD1 pulley mounts. This
means a pulley needs a similar offset. So far all the Ford pulleys have
deep offsets. Going to check out the holden ones this afternoon.
With the viscous coupling off the SD1 pump I noticed a little hole in
shaft. Looks like it's there to let the air out when the SD1 nose is
pushed on the pump shaft. I'm speculating I might be able to remove the
nose an fit it to the Buick pump. Anyone tried doing this?
Gavin Walker
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[mailto:rovernet-bounces at lyris.ccdata.com] On Behalf Of peter king
Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2008 1:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] 3500s water pump rebuilds
Thanks to all for the replies! I'll let you know if there are any
updates to availability when I get to the parts store.
Peter
On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:30 PM, <Gavin.Walker at csiro.au>
<Gavin.Walker at csiro.au> wrote:
> Hi Glen,
> Thanks for that. According to
>
> http://www.gmb.net/html/catalog/GMB_InterchangeCompetitors.pdf
>
> The TRW FP1448 is the same as GMB 130-1070 and Airtex AW1018
>
> (Airtex AW855 matches GMB 130-1420 and is shorter).
>
> Airtex pumps are made in China.
>
> Interestingly there is also the 130-1070P which claims to be a
> "performance" version.
>
> The trick for me would be to get the right pulley. I don't have quite
> the same selections of Fords over here.
>
> Gavin Walker
> Canberra,Australia
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:54:29 +0200
From: <RoverP6 at gmx.de>
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] P6 V8 for 7495 GBP
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ebay # 280218060156
price is on a high level
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:05:48 +0000
From: griffo at comcast.net
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Blue and White Paint
To: rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com
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All the recent posts about the blue and white TCs have me wondering if
anyone knows the paint codes for the two colors, and of a decet supplier of
appropriate paint in the U.S. Please let me know. Thanks, Gordon.
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:03:32 -0700
From: "James Dean" <jaguru at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Blue and White Paint
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This is not correct as a Rover color; but one of the best looking ivory
colors is old Ford Wimbledon White. it is the same as Old English White #2,
used on 60's Jaguars. the advantage of this color is it is available in
Dupont Imron, as well as others, so you can paint under bonnet, trunk, door
jambs in Imron, the outside in the type you choose. Imron wears like iron
has good gloss but no depth. I painted my MKII Jag in that color. I have
not bought any for 10 years, but assume it is readily available, and is
cheaper than other colors. it used to even be available in pre-mixed factory
cans. This color actually looks better than refrigerator whites; but may not
be show correct.James Dean
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:05 AM
Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Blue and White Paint
> All the recent posts about the blue and white TCs have me wondering if
> anyone knows the paint codes for the two colors, and of a decet supplier
> of appropriate paint in the U.S. Please let me know. Thanks, Gordon.
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:16:20 -0400
From: Peter King <peter at king-co.com>
Subject: Re: [ROVERNET - UK] Blue and White Paint
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Hi James,
Dupont has unfortunately discontinued Imron, or at least it is no
longer readily available, due to environmental regulations. I used it
a few years ago, and was told I was purchasing the last gallon
available. They may have a replacement, or regs may possibly vary from
place to place, but here in MA we can no longer acquire it.
pk
On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:03 AM, James Dean wrote:
> This is not correct as a Rover color; but one of the best looking
> ivory colors is old Ford Wimbledon White. it is the same as Old
> English White #2, used on 60's Jaguars. the advantage of this color
> is it is available in Dupont Imron, as well as others, so you can
> paint under bonnet, trunk, door jambs in Imron, the outside in the
> type you choose. Imron wears like iron has good gloss but no depth.
> I painted my MKII Jag in that color. I have not bought any for 10
> years, but assume it is readily available, and is cheaper than other
> colors. it used to even be available in pre-mixed factory cans. This
> color actually looks better than refrigerator whites; but may not be
> show correct.James Dean
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <griffo at comcast.net>
> To: <rovernet at lyris.ccdata.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:05 AM
> Subject: [ROVERNET - UK] Blue and White Paint
>
>
>> All the recent posts about the blue and white TCs have me wondering
>> if anyone knows the paint codes for the two colors, and of a decet
>> supplier of appropriate paint in the U.S. Please let me know.
>> Thanks, Gordon.
>>
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